Season 5 Episode 17

The Incident (2)

Aired Sunday 9:00 PM May 13, 2009 on ABC

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  • Lost sets the bar even higher.

    WOW! First words that come to my mind to describe this episode are mind blowing! Words are hard to find, this is something you have to witness yourself to understand what kind of amazing ride that was.
    This episode had it all. Tension, drama, suspense, intensity, mysteries, mythology, answers, craziness,cliffhangers and hell even its sweet moments.

    Let`s start with the opener. It was an instant OMG moment. Conversation between Jacob and his,what seem to be enemy. Anyway, the conversation was cool and pretty mysterious as always. Seeing the statue again was amazing. A word on the casting choice of Jacob. I think it is a great one. I understand, people expected somebody maybe older...perhaps in line with what we saw in our first meeting with Jacob in Season 3. Chances are that it may not have been Jacob after all when Ben took Locke in the cabin. Anyway, good choice of actor in my opinion. He`s cool and the character perfectly executed.

    Meanwhile, Jack was more than decided to stick to his plan. How Jack has changed. Love the "don`t give up on Locke" line to Richard. I think that describe the character change perfectly.

    One of the very rare thing I`ve not enjoyed so much in these 2 eps is perhaps Sawyer-Julliete relationship. First off, it has not really been developed..so not really used to it. What I don`t like about it is what Sawyer has become. I love the not very likeable guy we all loved back in the days. I understand he has matured a lot and all but here the whole Sawyer-Julliete thing was underwhelming. I mean, it was like Sawyer was taking orders with the changes of mind and all.

    Now that being said, the first time that relationship felt real was of course in the closing moments of the eps, during the incident. A real tearjerker that was perfectly acted by Josh Holloway and Elizabeth Mitchell. Very moving to say the least.

    Sawyer-Jack fight was cool..just had to happen. The incident at Swan station was again perfectly executed. There was such a tensed and uncertain atmosphere. Very suspenseful and sad also. Miles made an excellent point about the possibility that the bomb going off could be the actual incident. The ending was WOW and so cruel also cause the hiatus is so long. It was a game changing event and Elizabeth Mitchell did an amazing job here.
    Now, up to Mr. "Locke" and co. Great to see Frank back...love the character. Good to see more about the Ajira survivors too. The scene at Jacob`s "home" was amazing. That was almost 3 seasons in the making. Loved it. There was a lot of shockers in the episodes but the absolute major shocker here is no doubt that Locke was actually not Locke. That`s freaking mind blowing. The revelation was perfectly handled..I almost yelled "if this is Locke, then who is in there" line along with Sun. Theories are flowing big time about this. Ben kills Jacob (which is not something I really wanted to see)...actually manipulated by Smokey/Evil/bad guy or whoever he is. Brilliant! My mind is blown! This is yet another game changer and the line "things will change when he dies" may well be a description of the future of the show.

    On now to the flashbacks/forwards. They were amazing. How ironic is it that everyone of the losties actually met Jacob. Connections were perfectly(getting tired typing this word)made.

    There were some sweet moments too in here. It was nice seeing Rose and Bernard.Very heartwarming to see how they are living a happy life in there...was also kinda funny. Nice moment too see Charlie`s ring too.

    So who`s the guy impersonating Locke?? Smokey?? Did he impersonate Christian too? Has we seen the last of Jacob? Julliet dead? If she is, doesn`t it mean they all are? Are they back to real time??? Did Jack`s plan went well? If Julliete is gone, how will Sawyer ever forgive Jack?? Did Sayid survive?? Is this whole thing god vs the devil... playing their endless game of good vs evil? ETC................. Long hiatus, full of theories and question as Lost enters its final chapter next year. Until then, thank you writers and hats off.
  • Flawless, Superlative!

    All of these words describe this episode of LOST. But the bottom line is as follows: LOST equals perfection!!!!! What a phenomenal season finale; perfect finale!

    A-OK, absolute, accomplished, aces, adept, beyond compare, blameless, classical, consummate, crowning, culminating, defect less, excellent, excelling, experienced, expert, faultless, finished, foolproof, ideal, immaculate, impeccable, in-defectible, matchless, out-of-this-world, Paradise, paradisaical, peerless, pure, skilled, skillful, sound, splendid, spotless, stainless, sublime, superb, supreme, ten, unblemished, unequaled, unmarred, untainted, untarnished, Utopian, abstract, airy, ambitious, Arcadian, chimerical, dream, fanciful, fantasy, grandiose, hopeful, idealist, idealistic, ideological, illusory, impossible, impractical, lofty, otherworldly, perfect, pie-in-the-sky, pretentious, quixotic, romantic, transcendental, unfeasible, visionary, bright, clean, error less, exquisite, faultless, flawless, impeccable, irreproachable, neat, pure, snowy, spotless, spruce, stainless, taint-less, trim, unexceptionable, unsoiled, unsullied.
  • Yet another amazing installment of lost and a superb finale to set up the final season of one of the best shows of all time.

    It is amazing how well written each and every season finale of lost is. Its also amazing because not many shows are able to completely satisfy a large majority of the fanbase with a finale while other shows seriously struggle with wrapping up a season yet still creating questions to make sure the viewer will be back for the next season, for example; Heroes is unable to satisfy people with their finales, even with the amazing first season of heroes, it didnt have a very stellar finish to the season. I thought this finale was amazing for a lot of reasons, first off, the acting was even more amazing than usual with great effort by Matthew Fox, Michael Emerson and Terry O'Quinn. While the season finale does create even more questions reguarding the next season, it also answers the most used question in the lost universe, "who is jacob". Although i was sort of expecting Jacob to be someone we had already met, i though it was amazing how they tied him into the past of a majority of the main characters on the island. Also, the storyline was extremely well done with tons of plot twist and superb action. It's sad to think that Lost only has 17 more hours to go, but it has been an amazing ride and the fifth season was one of the best yet! thank you to everyone on the set that has helped make lost so special!
  • The end of both John Locke and Jacob as we know them.

    The most disturbing season finale starts with the flashback of the Black Rock arrival as Jacob remembers it, doomed to a loophole that repeats over and over another man swears this will be the last as he'll find a way to kill him.

    Throughout the episode, different flashbacks shows Jacob taking contact with the castaways through several points in their lives: the funeral of Sawyer's parents, Kate's first theft, Jack's first surgery, the first day Jin & Sun spent as husband and wife, the last time Sayid ever saw Nadia and so on, the only one Jacob doesn't contact is a younger Juliet...

    And yet is older Juliet the hero of this story, as every attempt to change history fails once the drill actually hits the magnetic core of the island is our sweet, brave Juliet, the most capable woman Ben could find to fix the pregnancy issue and the only woman Jim "Sawyer" LaFleur ever committed to the one who finally detonates the hydrigen bomb leaving us hanging in our seats for a shocking next season.

    For it was not a plane crash what they were meant to stop, it was not the incident, not even the Dharma Initiative but rather the murder of "He who will save us all" the answer Illana, Bram and the rest finally receive from Ricard Alpert as they show him the content of the box they were carrying: the body of our beloved John Locke as dead as the day Jack took the Ajira 316 flight. Meanwhile, in the shadow of the statue, the man who we thought was John Locke has finally killed Jacob just as he swore he would ...when the Black Rock arrived.
  • The best cliff-hanger since the season 3 finale of The Next Generation.

    I wasn't monitoring the time to be sure when part I ended and part II began, so I will be referring to both. I'd like to start out by saying that I gave this a 10, and while some might argue that most of the episode is pointless and leads the viewers on a false ride, I feel that the drama was good, the action was packed in, and the intrigue was certainly there.

    The episode starts off in an undefined past time. We see a man spinning thread and weaving a tapestry (can anyone say symbolism?). This man walks out onto a beach, and we see that he was inside of the giant statue, or "in the shadow of the statue. This man is wearing a white shirt. He is approached by a man in a black shirt (again, can anyone say symbolism?). I'm thinking... hmmmm... black shirt... black SMOKE MONSTER!?! and if that's the case, could that mean that the man in the white shirt is... wait a minute! There is a boat off in the distance. Could that be the Black Roc? The man in the black shirt does not seem to be happy that they are coming. He looks to the man in the white shirt and says he'd like to find the loop hole to be able to kill and and calls him, you may have guessed, JACOB!!!

    The episode proceeds to show us flashbacks involving all of the characters and an encounter they've had with Jacob. (All except for Juliet whose flashback is Jacob free) We find out that Jacob supplies an 8 year old Sawyer with the pen to write his letter to the man responsible for the deaths of his parents. Jacob keeps a very young Kate from getting into trouble when she robs a store. Jacob prevents Sayid from crossing a street with his wife who is run down by a car infront of his very eyes. Jacob congratulates Sun and Jin as they are getting married and advises them never to take their love or each other for granted. He oversees an argument between Jack and his father, in which Jack's father calls him out on not having faith in himself. Jacob "revives" John after the fall that lands him into a wheelchair. And lastly, Jacob is the one who convinces Hurley to return to the island. I suppose it could be said the he intervened in the lives of each character at some seemly small, but in actuality crucial part. Juliet's flashback involved her parents telling her and her sister of their intentions to get a divorce. Juliet does not take the news well, and her parents tell her that sometimes you have to recognize when you are not meant to be with someone (or something to that effect). Juliet sees the way that Sawyer looks at Kate and realizes that even though she loves him and he loves her, and would probably stick by her, they do not belong together. Juliet takes action on the sub when Kate says they must get off to stop Jack. Once off the sub, when she hears Jack's plea, she takes action to help Jack. A part of her feels that if she can prevent Sawyer and herself from getting together, she can prevent the hurt of losing him.

    Sayid helps Jack extract the plutonium core from the bomb, which is much easier to carry and is all that is needed to cause the explosion necessary to put their plan into action. They are attacked by members of the Dharma initiative and Sayid is shot at point blank range in the stomach. Jin, Hurley and Miles show up in the Dharma van and haul them off to the Swan site.

    Sawyer and ladies intercept the van, and Sawyer tries to change Jack's mind. He tells Jack about the death of his parents and how he had the chance to take the sub and keep his father from killing his mother and himself, but that he didn't, because "what's done is done." Jack doesn't see it that way and admits that his driving motivation in changing the future is to prevent the heartbrake of losing Kate. Sawyer decides when his words fail to change Jack's mind, to use his fists and Jack and Sawyer finally duke it out after 3 years (for them, 5 for us). Juliet stops the fights and sides with Jack. Everyone backs Jack up at this point. Jack approaches the hole that the Dharma guys are drilling into, which will cause "the incident" and throws the bomb in, only the bomb doesn't detinate, the drill cannot be stop and it releases the pocket of electro magnetic energy causing everything that is magnetic to be pulled towards the hole. Miles is able to save his father's life when he becomes entangled in the metalic mess. Juliet gets caught in a metal chain and is pulled into the hole. Sawyer and Kate try desperately to save her but it is in vain.

    Meanwhile, in the present, Locke tells Ben that he must kill Jacob. They reach the foot of the statue where Jacob resides and go inside. Jacob looks at Locke and tells him he finally has found his loophole. He looks at Ben and tells Ben he has a choice to make. Ben is tested by Jacob, and Ben kills him, meanwhile outside of the statue Illana shows up with her crew carrying a box with secret contents. They dump the contents out to reveal a familiar body.

    As my friends and I were watching, they asked me, "Alex, what question would you like to be answered by the end?" I told them, Lost typically doesn't instill questions in me. I feel that I follow pretty well, I make my predictions, sometimes I'm wrong. I said that they only thing I wanted to see was everyone propelled back into the future, I did not want it to end with a big FLASH, where you didn't know what happened. They all laughed and said LOST would never do that. That it always ends with some question being answered and a new one being asked. When Ben stabbed Jacob, he fell to his knees and looked at John and said "their coming." My friends all assumed that he was talking about Illana and her crew, but I'll bet anyone that he was talking about our guys stuck in the past. We won't know for certain though, because sure enough, LOST ended with a BANG! ...and a flash ;)
  • Best finale of television.

    It all came down to this - the entire show was building up to this very moment. The real chance to make everything right. To prevent the crash, to erase all the things that happened, all the miserable things, and to bring back all the people that were lost.

    And to finally reveal the two sides - who's good, who's bad, who's Jacob, who's Christian...

    The finale did a brilliant job keeping the story and character in balance. We finally saw all the flashbacks we wanted, and more. The whole episode had a season 1 vibe to it, which is welcome. But each flashback had something.. or someone in common. Jacob.

    Yes, he's revealed, and his nemesis is too. There is a man, who wants to kill Jacob, but he can't do it himself, so he tries to find a loophole. And he finally found his: Locke. To understand all this, you need to watch the episode. It's just brilliant. The cold open is one of the best scenes of the show, if not the best.

    Probably not. The best scene is most likely the ending with Ben and notLocke killing Jacob, thus having notLocke as the ultimate leader of the island. The evil has won? Well, not yet.

    And of course, Juliet's last scene - the very last scene of the episode, where she blows up the nuke. There's acting, good acting, fantastic acting, and then there's this. If you didn't tear up at Elizebath Mitchell's beyond amazing performance, then you have no soul . The desperation, the struggle, the hopelessness was never portrayed so perfectly.

    And the scene was capped off with the most brilliant ending of an episode ever: inverting the Lost logo - black text on white background. Ah, awesome.

    Overall, this is the best episode of the show, and television, quite possibly. An amazing thrillride that gave us the last remaining pieces to unlock the mythology of Lost. See you in 8 months.
  • Here's what is really happening on the island

    Two diametrically opposed forces of order and chaos exist on an island outside time, reliving the same loop for an eternity.

    The loop begins when the Black Rock, carrying Ricardus and his people, brings the first outsiders to paradise.

    Jacob, avatar of order, maintains the skeins of history as he makes sure key figures make the right choices.

    Chaos, wanting to kill Order and break the cycle, is a formless black smoke when not taking on a physical form from a deceased individual whose memories it has scanned and absorbed.

    Locke came face to face with Smokey back in season one, and with his corpse back on the island Chaos finally had the loophole it needed to kill order.

    "Two sides... One side is light, the other side is dark." - John Locke, season 1.
  • A Jacob-centric episode.

    Let me just start off by saying that all things considered, I absolutely loved this episode. This was such a shocking and exciting season finale! All of the storylines were great, especially Sawyer's storyline which was my favorite storyline of the episode. All of the flashbacks of Jacob interacting with various members of flight Oceanic 815 were great. I found the whole reveal about Locke extremely shocking. I didn't see that coming at all. It was really exciting to finally find out what the Incident was. I have to say that I absolutely loved Juliet in this episode. I'm so sad about Juliet apparently getting killed off the show since she has been one of my favorite characters on the show ever since season three when she joined the show. Although, I think that Elizabeth Mitchell gave an absolutely amazing performance in this episode, especially in the scene where she's talking to Sawyer before she falls down that hole and in the very last scene of the episode where we see that Juliet is still alive and apparently detonates the bomb. That was such a surprising and heartbreaking scene. Also, I loved how they did the reversal of the colors on the Lost logo at the end of the episode. In closing, I thought that this was a very well written, well acted, well made episode of Lost from everyone involved, and I can't wait for the sixth and final season of Lost to start so I can find out what happens next.
  • The finale that changes everything

    The best thing about "Lost" is how well misdirection is applied. The writers don't pull a fast one on the audience; they simply present information in such a way that the truth is right there in plain view, but it becomes difficult to see past the red herrings. In this case, many had pointed out the evidence that something unusual was going on with Locke, yet it was easy to dismiss what was right there on the screen. Needless to say, much the speculation surrounding Jacob and Locke was somewhat off the mark.

    This episode actually begins to explain some of the symbolism built into the series since the very first season. Going back to the earliest episodes, there was a constant reference to black and white stones, representing a light and dark side to motives, events, and the island itself. (Note that Jacob wears white; his rival wears black.) At the same time, Jack saw his father, seemingly brought back to life by the island.

    After seeing so many apparently dead individuals return to life, most recently John Locke, it was easy to assume that Jacob was the one behind it. After all, Ben took Locke to Jacob's cabin, and it appeared that Jacob was using the form of Christian Shepherd. The idea that Jacob had taken on Locke's form, or had reanimated it in some way, seemed reasonable as an extension of those assumptions. And, of course, there seemed to be a relationship between Jacob and Cerberus, particularly the appearance of the dead to those about to be judged.

    But now two and two have been put together, and the implications are a bit more clear (even if they are a bit more complex). The entity taking the form of the dead, and working in concert with Cerberus, is not Jacob, but rather, Jacob's rival. That rival has yet to be given a name, but he has been trying to find a way to kill Jacob and take control of the island for quite some time. This would appear to be the nature of the war that Widmore warning Locke about in "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham". At any rate, it certainly explains why "Locke" was a lot more focused and purposeful after his death.

    The fact that Jacob and his rival both left the island in some form, leading those who would be on Oceanic 815 towards some greater destiny, strongly supports the notion that Oceanic 815's crash was not the simple accident that it seemed to be. The notion that Desmond accidentally made the plane crash was never satisfying, and now there are two layers that debunk that explanation. It's already been made clear that Widmore was responsible for ensuring that the plane was off course in the general vicinity of the island, and perhaps now the timing of Kelvin's escape attempt makes more sense.

    The origins of Jacob and his rival are still unclear. The timing of the initial flashback seems to be roughly the 1800s, which would fit the theory that Jacob, Richard, and this new rival were survivors of the Black Rock. If so, perhaps Jacob's rival is Magnus Hanso, the first mate of the Black Rock. That would be a satisfying connection to the man behind the Dharma Initiative! (Alternatively, the ship seen in that flashback could have been the Black Rock itself.) Of course, that doesn't explain why Jacob would be hanging out in the chamber under the statue (which appears to be of Sobek, the Egyptian god of protection and fertility), using a loom to construct a tapestry with Egyptian and Greek motifs. The tapestry points back to the possibility that Jacob, Richard, and this adversary come from ancient times.

    The argument between Jacob and his rival at the beginning of the episode implies that they have very different goals when it comes to the island. Jacob seems to want to bring certain people to the island and save them; his rival seems to have a more violent and judgmental disposition. This ties into Richard's answer to Ilana's question: "Who lies in the shadow of the statue?" His answer, in Latin, was "he who will protect us all" or "he who will save us all".

    It also appears to tie into the mural on the wall in the Cerberus chamber in "Dead is Dead". A theory after that episode was that Jacob was Anubis, or at least an analogue to Anubis. He seemed to be controlling Cerberus. But what if the mural representing Anubis and the smoke monster is a reference to Jacob's rival? Perhaps the smoke monster is just an extension of whatever Jacob's rival is supposed to be. Was Anubis in opposition to Sobek? This would make sense of the seeming association between Cerberus and the one who takes the form of the dead on the island.

    Whatever the case, as seen in the episode, Sobek carried the ankh, a symbol of opposition to evil and the ability to cure diseases. Both seem applicable to the island and Jacob. Sobek was also known to have a distant role in affairs, guiding and pushing others to act in his stead. Whatever the case, this explains the Others a bit more. Jacob selects those who he wants to protect. Richard, who apparently has known Jacob for a very long time, appoints a leader for the actual tribe. That leader does whatever it takes to protect Jacob's chosen. Why they are chosen seems to be the real question, and one that still has no definitive answer. It may, however, have something to do with the redemptive aspects of the series.

    It may also be telling that Jacob interacted with Jack, Kate, Sayid, Sawyer, Locke, Hurley, Jin, and Sun at various key moments in their lives. Why were they particularly important? It does vaguely suggest that their survival of the Oceanic 815 crash was no accident, something often hinted in the first few seasons. It's interesting to note, however, that they weren't initially on the lists compiled by Ethan and Goodwin after the crash.

    Jacob also interacted with Ilana, which means that all the hints and suggestions that Ilana and her crew were working for the wrong side was more of that misdirection. It would seem that the cabin was actually where Jacob's rival was being "contained", not where Jacob was being imprisoned. That leads to the obvious questions: when was he thus imprisoned and by whom?

    It also seems obvious that Jacob's rival was the one who was manipulating Locke and the Oceanic 6 all this time, and perhaps Charles Widmore as well. The war between Ben and Charles could be seen, in context, as a reflection of the larger struggle between Jacob and his nemesis. Logically speaking, it was therefore Jacob's rival that pushed Locke to move the island. Since this led to his ability to take on Locke's form and, presumably, kill Jacob, this all seems to be one massive plot to take control of the island. And it also explains why this period in the island's history is particularly important.

    Of course, much of this is based on the assumption that Jacob himself appeared to these select members of the Oceanic Tribe and touched them at some point in their lives for a specific reason. It's quite possible, based on what has been seen, that it wasn't Jacob all those times, but rather, Jacob's adversary. After all, the end of the episode strongly implies that Jacob was always waiting in the chamber under the statue. The only problem with this theory, of course, is that Jacob's adversary usually takes on the form of someone who has died (tying into the Anubis theory). Perhaps Jacob can take on the appearance of those who are living (as in Walt in "There's No Place Like Home"). That would fit the black/white dichotomy rather well.

    Now that it's clear that Locke is dead, it removes the possibility that he will replace Jacob in the long term. It may be that removing both Jacob and his rival is the endgame. But if not, if there must be balance, the logical replacement for Locke may in fact be Jack. In the wake of Locke's death, Jack has been acting more and more like someone locked into a destined role. If he can let go of the notion that he must control everything in the world (in other words, if he embraces the predestined nature of time in the "Lost" universe), then he could combine his former leadership role with Locke's spiritual psychology. It would be a great payoff to his long journey towards redemption.

    But it's not likely to be an easy road, since it's most probable that Miles was correct: Jack's plan will probably create the Incident, not prevent it. More than that, it's likely that the Incident will toss the Oceanic Tribe back into their proper time and cause the conception issues that plagued the Others in earlier seasons. That travel back into 2007 would essentially kill Juliet (who wasn't going to survive much longer anyway), who would "reappear" in the middle of the ruins of the Swan Station. Sayid's situation is also grave, but perhaps not so much so, based on the fact that Juliet was the only one with a flashback that didn't involve Jacob.

    But otherwise, it looks like everything would make the transition more or less intact. That might even apply to Rose, Bernard, and Vincent, who had at least found some measure of happiness on their own. If the rest of the Oceanic Tribe make it back to 2007 as a result of the Incident (and are then presumed dead by Richard because they were at "ground zero"), then shouldn't everyone caught out of time do the same? (This would appear to be the meaning of Jacob's final words: the Oceanic survivors are returning to their proper time.)

    Most of what happened in 1977 was so predictable, right down to the fistfight between Jack and Sawyer, that it almost took away from the episode. Only Juliet's odd behavior broke it out of that mold. But even that was fairly consistent; Juliet has been making decisions based on the knowledge that her time with Sawyer was over as soon as Kate returned on the scene. Juliet's actions have contained such a sense of inevitability that it was practically self-fulfilling prophecy.

    That renders her character arc rather tragic, but that fits the arc of just about every other character to this point. Even Ben's story is tragic. He doesn't even realize how long he's been manipulated, going back to when he was a child (it's a fair bet that his vision of his mother was Jacob's rival). If Jacob's rival represents Anubis, a god of the underworld, perhaps Ben was saved through the power of Jacob's rival. That might be why Ben was never allowed to see Jacob himself.

    On the other hand, it's entirely possible that Jacob knew that Ben was going to kill him, and that this moment was coming. And perhaps that is why it was important to show that most of the few remaining Oceanic Tribe members had been "chosen" by Jacob at some point in their lives. Either Jacob was sure that he would be replaced by one of them, or the loss of his physical form might put him on an even playing field with his rival.

    Regardless of how much of this speculation is proven wrong (and some of it inevitably will be), the stage is certainly set for the final season. Using the familiar white-out of a time flash for the end title may be more than just creative license. If the past five seasons have been dominated by the machinations of Jacob's dark rival, then this may be a sign that the final season will render matters back into balance.
  • One of the best Tv Series Episode ever.

    I guess you never know what to expect with the team of writers/directors/producers that are involved in this show.
    But in my humble opinion they have exceeded every expectation.
    Not only i think its the best episode in the series but in my humble opinion is one of the best in TV history. If you take all aspects into account you will realize that the episode was truelly epical.

    They managed to have every active ( not dead ) Character in the 90 minute show. The action the drama the suspence was overflowing throughout this episode. The actors did a phenomenal job too. The casting is great we already established that since season 1. Every Character is a hero in its own special way and this has been perfectly represented in this episode.
    They also managed to give answers to many questions yet they created a new series of expectations and uncertainties.

    I dont think i was so intrigued by Tv series since Twin Peaks.

    I cannot wait for next season and i hope that it ends in the Grande way that its suited for it.
  • I was blown away by the last minutes of this episode. I was trembling whenever Jack, Juliet and Sawyer got in a conflict because I feared for Sawyer and Juliet. But they all made it to Swan. And that's where the crazy ride begins.

    First of all, previous seasons of Lost made it clear that the characters are not perfect in any way. They have so many flaws and that's what makes them "tick". Their motivations in this episode may be stupid, but not surprising.

    The Dharma story is over, or so do I think. Last moments of Juliet were so strong, so tense I really didn't move or breathe. Of all the characters, hers is the one I feared would die the most. It's not over yet, but she deserves to go out in style, just like Charlie (who was my fav too). It seemed stupid she survived that fall, but then I remembered something. It's the Island. And one fall cannot kill you, or, it cannot kill you instantly. Jacob and Esau (I'm going to use this name for Jacob's enemy just because I don't have any other - except maybe Samuel). Don't mean to be hasty and call their game a Gods fight. We don't know what they are, or what their motives are. I have some ideas about the loophole and Jacob's motives behind bringing the Variables to the Island. Yes, I think Jacob wants to change things so the loop would stop. And the only way to do it is to use the Variables - people that can act out of their destined screenplays. And Desmond... maybe he's the guy that inadvertently keeps the same (or similar string of time) time going. The Constant.

    I'm possibly wrong and off the course here, but I'm finally intrigued enough to make theories for myself, because I hate spending time on something that isn't really up to me. But the story evolved the way I wanted it to evolve from the Pilot so... I am lost and glad I am trying to be found.

    Ilana grew on me! That's a surprise. Richard and she had a great scene and I found myself yelling "Locke, Locke, Locke!" before they showed him. It was a shock. A great twist. A twist that left all of us wondering did Ben kill Jacob? Did Esau (or Flocke) find a way to kill Jacob? What's next? And who's coming?

    Acting was amazing as always, special kudos for Elizabeth Mitchell. I claim again the actions of the Losties make perfect sense. Juliet's decision to help Jack might be because she thought that was the way to meet Sawyer again. Kate's motives are irrelevant in this show. I like Jack, I don't know why, I guess I got used to seeing him around since he's the first character from Lost we've ever met.

    Conclusion. The finale was outstanding. The story very satisfying. Yes, there might be a few things that could have been done a little differently, but no matter. The negative LOST title in the end predicts more than we know. Everything's changed and we have to wait 8 months to really see if we are glad for the story of LOST.
  • Part Two of My Review of the Best Episode Ever (Until Next Years Finale)...Spoilers

    Two hours flew by while I watched this very emotional episode that developed the plot to a whole new level. Jacobs Flashbacks where great each one of the showed us something we had never seen in the show, Sun and Jin's wedding, Sawyer's parents funeral and him writing the letter, Jacks first surgery, what happened to Locke after he fell from the building, how Nadia died and how Hurley was persuaded to go back to the island. All great flashbacks but there was one awesome one the first one with Jacobs enemy, the Black Rock and the statue. Something tells me we haven't seen the last of Jacob. Also there was a huge twist with Locke not actually being Locke but being Jacob's enemy in the form of Locke (Shocker). Sawyer meeting Rose, Bernard and Vincent again was nice to see, I really enjoyed seeing them again and I was dying to know what they had been up to.

    The past story concluded with style Sayid and Jack kicked ass when they had a fire fight against the Dharma folk didn't expect Sayid to be shot. The scene where Sawyer and Jack had a fight was a long time coming 103 episodes and they finally beat each other up. The action part at the Swan was awesome, I enjoyed seeing Jack get backed up by Sawyer, Juliet and Kate and MILES? How did they all become good shots? We saw Changs hand get totally screwed which explains how his hand is missing in one of the Dharma videos cant remember which one. Phil was finally killed thank god hated that dude. There was a very sad scene where Juliet was dragged into the pit this was very sad lost hasn't been able to pull off a sad death like this since Charlie. Juliet saved everyone in the final scene by blowing up the bomb. R.I.P Juliet.

    This finally gave us more answers than questions this is what I expect because we are so close to the end of the show. Best finale so far.

    I don't know what to expect in the final season but I do know it's going to be the best season in the history of TV. I'm totally ready for number 6.
  • This is the best season finale ever! I have to say: !no mames!, !chingonsisimo!, very similar to the season 2 finale when they blow up the hatch. This is why Lost is my favorite show, they never disappoint me.

    This is the best season finale ever! I have to say: !no mames!, !chingonsisimo!, very similar to the season 2 finale when they blow up the hatch. This is why Lost is my favorite show, they never disappoint me.

    This time we have Jacob as the main character and answer to many questions of the show, he is some kind of supernatural being, which brings people to the island to guide them in some kind of "religion" I would say. Egyptian in my point of view. And on the other side we have his counterpart which is trying to kill him because It seems like he do not want people to get to the island and follow him. We realize that Lock is really dead and the bad guy is the one taking his place I assume is the same as Christian (Jack's father), Alex (Ben's daugther), etc, because he can take the form of dead people.

    I don't like Lock being dead because he is one of the main characters of the show, but I think they will fix it next season.

    I really enjoyed when Jacob tells Ben: What about you?

    Things are going to get very interesting next season.

  • The beginning of the end and all things to come.

    That has to be the greatest cliffhanger ever.This season finished in a very powerful way and left us all viewers speachless and confused , once again. Does Locke have evil twin ? This show can make everything happen , so we would just have to wait for next season. I liked Jack and Sawyer's fight , we hadn't seen that in a while and it's refreshing to watch those fight for their ideals and believes. What's with the Ricardus qoute and Richard talking in latin? How long has he been in the island? That's really one I am killing to know. I thought we would have news on Claire by now but I guess all in it's due time. I can't help to wonder how this show will develop things next season and how it's gonna end , but one thing I am certain is that it's gonna be awesome.
  • What a great episode.

    I have a thought, the white flash at the end of the show, could this be another skip in time that will send Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Hurley, Sayid back to 2007. Could this be what Jacob meant when he said "they are coming"? If this is what will happen when the new season starts, I hope Juliet lives to make it back to 2007 with the rest of the Losties. I am looking forward to the 6th and final season. But I can't wait for the DVD to come out, I just wish that they could release it in a month or two, not Dec 8th.
  • Boom. And did they change the past? My answer: Yes, even though they shouldn't have done...

    I'm gonna keep it brief and just give a quick thanks to everyone involved in the show, because they just delivered the most enteraining finale I have ever seen on any show. I was gripped from start to finish, the plot has never moved so far forward so quickly, and its set up in the most ambigious way possible, which is exactly what I want from Lost: having absolutely no idea what to expect, and then, as (almost) always, being given a sound answer.

    I think they have changed the past, and here's why: The hatch was built to stop that energy building up, correct? Well, before the bomb went off, that energy was already present. Surely a bomb of that power could totally anihilate a 'pocket' of energy? If they have changed the past, it goes against the flow of logic, because Desmond is the only one that can change the past (that could have been the way to bring back my favorite character, but, alas, I think we've seen the end of Hume Esq.

    Oh, one thing was silly: a bomb can fall 100-150ft without exploding, but by someone tapping it with a rock it goes off? Hahaha. Anyway, I don't get hung up on those little things.Best wishes to the final season!
  • incredible, so many reveals, twists and cliffhangers, don't know what to do 8 MONTHS!

    everything perfect. jacob was the biggest reveal, so much infomation i've waited so long for. brilliant scene with juliet and sawyer, so sad (juliet, what a hero). no more Locke, who's the imposter? Man #2, got to be, "you found your loop hole". what a quality killing of jacob, go ben, though jacob at this moment feels more trustworthy than 'locke'. the fight between jack and sawyer, phew, i thought jack had him, but sawyer comes back with some dirty play lol. i can't stop wondering who's going to end up with who. we'll have to find out when LOST returns in 2010.
  • Huge and shocking ending, very powerful and engrossing finale.

    So another season of Lost comes to an end and what an engrossing episode it was. From the feud about the bomb to the hike towards Jacob the whole thing just really flowed. I loved how Jacob appeared in significant parts of the characters past - Kate when she first stole, Sawyer at his parents funeral and Locke when he fell from the window. I liked him as a character, not as creepy as I expected.

    The Jack/Sawyer fight was a long time in the making and pretty intense. Juliet is a great character and I liked her throughout her time on the show. The ending of the episode leaves us thinking she might not be back...but how emotional was her fall. It was so sad to see her and 'James' separate. But it was the very end that got me...Ben killing Jacob, Locke's dead body in the case and Juliet...crawling in her own blood...hitting that bomb which such desperation and then...BANG!

    Brilliant ending, whatever can they do next!
  • Great Ending to season 5 and maybe beyond !

    When you think about the whole lost series so far, it all seems to make sense how this is all woking out. I believe Iliana was in tunisia in the same hospital as locke at the exit point. I believe that she left and jacob healed her to bring her back so that she can help with the war that is coming, I think Jacob knew that he was going to die like christ himself knew, I think that he believed he needed to sacrifice himself at that moment and remember when richard said jacob made him that way. Well i think richard knew as well that is why he is the only one to know jacob and the only one to see jacob and let locke the only person to see jacob. Season 1-5 is about how dharma and the others and oceanic 6 fit into the island and how the final war in season 6 will not only figure out the fate of the island but mankind itself. Jacob said this was a loop of events and the island is a micrcosm of the world itself. So who will be there ? all of the people it appears are of jacobs choosing (flashbacks) and will good overcome evil, what progress has been made since the last loop. This series has always been about mythology about the bigger picture, people look for answers in the small print, who are dharma, the others, etc. But the bigger picture should always have been what is the fate of the world in a very diverse universe. Brilliant and so analytical, we are in for one heck of a ride and the journey is so near it's conclusion, Damon and Carlton said we will find out the future of our characters in the end, there will be no cut to black, either good or evil will prevail and come the beginning of season 6 we will learn what is at stake and what is the end game for our people. Carlton has always said it is the people and there fates that will determine what lost is about and we will find this out very soon. Be prepared people be prepared.
  • It's Only End Once.

    This is for Part 1 and 2.

    First let me say, what a wonderful season finale.
    The revelation of Jacob and the Black-Shirt Man. We see the statue again, and we learn that Jacob live inside it.
    We learn also, that the Jacob's Cabin it's not actually his home by a long time... from what i learn maybe the Black-Shirt Man was trapped inside it by the ashes.

    We learn that the Locke we see from the middle of the season (The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham) it's actually the antagonist of Jacob, the Black-Shirt Man.


    Back to the the 1977 we learn how Chang lose his arm, and we learn more about the plan of Radinszky. James, Juliet and Kate escape from the submarine and find Vincent, and Rose and Bernard too! Could their Cabin be the famous one that it's been torch in this episode? Could make sense, because Horace Goodspeed it's on the island in 1977.

    Best Moment: Too many, But i absolutely loved the Drive-Shaft Ring moment. I was waiting for that, from Greatest Hits in season 3.
  • And now part 2 ...

    It was so good to see that the Lost writers did not disappoint. Everything was here - action, love, answers, new questions and so on. And ending on a massive explosion - oh boy, now we have to wait until 2010 to find out more. I didn't see the twist coming that Jacobs antoginist was appearing as John Locke, very clever. The scenes at The Swan were very exciting and dramatic and really well done, especially when Sawyer was trying to drag Juliet back up the shaft. January 2010 just can't come early enough so we can have more Lost!
  • Great ending to a great season.

    This was a outstanding finale to the best season yet. The are many questions answered with many more revelations. We finally find out who Jacob is and his role in the lives of the passengers the Oceanic flight. He got Kate out of a bind when she was a little girl. He gives Sawyer a pen when he was a little boy. He gives Jack his candy bar that had gotten stuck in a vending machine. He was there when Locke fell and broke his back. He blessed Jin and Sun at their wedding. He distracted Sayid while his wife was hit by a car and killed. He touched each of these people and invited them to the island.

    Jack and the rest make it to the H-Bomb and start the process to detonate it in the power source and reverse everything.

    Lock tells Ben that he has to kill Jacob as they continue their pilgrimage to the statue. Ben and Locke make their way into where Jacob is. Ben and Jacob get into an argument and Ben stabs him. Before he can die, Jacob states that they are coming.

    The is dissention among Jack, Kate, Juliette and Sawyer as weather to detonate the bomb, but they eventually all agree it is for the best.

    The power source is ruptured before they can detonate the bomb and all metal around the site is pulled into the hole that was being drilled. Juliette gets caught up in the metal and gets pulled down but lives. She sees the bomb undetonated and starts hitting it with a rock until the bomb detonates. Until next season…
  • For the record, loved the finale!!

    Reading everyones' comments have been very enlightening. But I was just wondering why everyone thinks Jacob is good. It seems both these guys (Jacob and Esau? or Sobek and Anubis?) are messing with peoples' lives trying to prove themselves right. Jacob did say "It only ends once. Anything before that is progress." and the other guy looked pretty pissed off. So it appears to me that Jacob is running his own "little" experiment and the other guy is sick and tired of it and just wants it to end. (Reminds me of the biblical story of Lot- I always hated how that guy's life was totally messed up).

    But who knows? I have also wondered if they are all dead and working their way through purgatory.

    Regardless, I am really looking forward to season 6. How refreshing after another thoroughly tedious finale of "Heroes". Those guys need to take a lot of tips from the writers of "Lost"!
  • I loved this finale...considering i hadn't watched Lost in a long time this season brought back how much i loved Lost. Bring on season 6!

    The finale had me on the edge of my seat; those scenes with Juliet and Sawyer made me cry they were so emtotional. One of my favourite moments of the series and the acting was amazing The bright white light of the finale and the swapping of the colour of the background and the colour of the writing is interesting and suggests somewhat of a change to next season- it will be interesting to see just what will happen to the Losties and what effect it will have for the others in 2007. This episode brought up even more questions - who is impersonating Locke and what's his motives? What will happen to the Losties in 1977? It will be interesting to see what happens in the final season- 8 months cannot come soon enough
  • Amazing finale.

    This finale probably can`t be better , at start of this 1 hour and 24 min`s we finally see Jacob ( good one I think after finale ) and some other guy "native" ( bad one ). They talking about ship ... what ship should we ask - ofcourse "Black Rock" with Ricardus :) Alpert. Both episodes are concentrate about Jacob and his meeting`s with people from island in past in real world beyond island. He meeting them in different times - young Sawyer, young Kate, Locke after accident, Jack during his first operation, Sayid when dies his wife, Sun and Jin when they just get married and Hugo when he induce him to flight the plan. One thing for me the most important is the Jacob touch all of them in different way`s but still touch.

    In episode producers give us a lot of special scenes for example : - back Rose and Bernanrd ... who think about that, not me ... Bernard look`s like Robinson Crusoe now :D and Rose with her true love to Bernard
    - Illiana and her people burn the cabin uhhh :(
    - fight Jack and Sawyer ohhhh I really miss fight like that ( kick in Jack`s balls was amazing :D )
    - Juliet probably dies... really sad scene ;( Sawyer I condolences you ... now i defienietly think Sawyer will change his mind in 100% , back old bad Sawyer :)
    - the finale scene !!! John Locke is dead man ( S H O C K ) for true.... who`s the live John Locke ?? maybe mr. "native" ?
    - Ben kill Jacob ohhh that see like Jacob want this death but why maybe that maky him free man ?
    - Bomb , bomb, bomb ... boom, boom, boom Juliet must hit that bomb 8 times to blow up her ... it`s little crazy :)

    at the end white background and black "Lost" inscription - nice change :)

    Summary great finale, great episode, a lot of shocking things now I want more more more Lost unfortunately I can see Lost not before January 2010 .... :((((

  • An example of a definitive Lost episode. No major spoilers included.

    The Incident, in a word, was fantastic. After a relatively slow (but entertaining, nonetheless) first hour, the show ratcheted up the intensity and came back for the strongest finish in years. Most questions that had been raised this season were put to rest, with a few left brewing for what I'm sure is going to be an amazing final season next year. This episode had everything that was ever worth watching in this show. We got to see Jacob, the full statue, discover what lies in the shadow of the statue, and much more. The main highlights of this episode include the Incident and the seemingly successful attempt of detonating the Hydrogen Bomb. However, things may not be as they seem. Will the bomb complete Faraday's dying wishes, or will things just become worse? Does whatever happened, "stay happened" or can they really change things? Season Six has set itself up in a fantastic way, and this episode was by far the best episode of the season, or the past couple seasons for that matter. With an emotional death, a not as emotional one, but one that could have led to answers had it not taken place, and many other events, this finale will leave you breathless. And in a cliffhanger, arguably one of the best since the opening of the hatch, that will leave you screaming for more, you'll begin to think of the repercussions of what just happened and wonder if what you just saw actually occurred. Did it really happen? I wouldn't have expected it. Oh my God. That's all I can say. I will be waiting breathlessly until 2010.
  • The Best episode i ever seen ! .

    -- ( S H O C K ) --

    Yea . i am tellin you ( this is the best episode you ever ganna see ) , there is no words to discrbe it Unbeliveable , Touching , Thrilling , BreatTaking . i loved it form the strat to the very end , loved all the actors in this episode :

    1 - Terry O'Quinn ( Plesas let him win an emmy he desarve it ) .

    2 - Michael Emerson ( i dare if his not winning this time for sure ! ) . 3 - Josh Holloway ( WOW , he really did an awesome performace that he will win this time ) .

    4 - Elizabeth Mitchell ( she really did a perfact performance ! ) .

    5 - Matthew Fox & Evangeline Lilly ( Perfact ! ) .

    - Jacob we have fianlly see him , and man he really great , and i really can beievie it he visit all of them ! , and he is the good side and there is another side wiche is BAD ! WTF .

    - Jack he really wont to blow up the bomb and his fight wiht sawyer really awesome , and man when he look at kate before throw the bomb it was a touching look + plus his crazy love for her . - sawyer i really feel sorry for him , i hope julite survive the next season cuz if not jack will be dead ! , and his actin this season was so damn good but the last is episode was perfact ( when he said to julite dont you dare to leave me !!!!! ) .

    - julite i really love her this season she was perfacet in evreyway ! , but i felt sad when she said to sayer i change my mind ! why ? cuz i saw the look to kate ! + the last scene when she try to make the bomn work WOW one of the best mintues of the show ( i really hope she will come back ) ! . - John WHAT ? i really can belive what dead is dead is so true , if he is dead then who is really ? , but his performance at the last scene when he met jacob was perfact and more than awesome . - ben WOW he just did a perfact and unbelvieable act in just 3 min !!!!! , what else can i add , yeah when he said ( WHY ME ? ) . best scenes : - Illiana and her people burn the cabin why did they do that ? .

    - the fight between Jack and Sawyer . - tha last scene with Juliet - John Locke is dead man . - Ben kill Jacob

    - white background and black "Lost" . at the end ( AWESOME finale ! Great and Aesome season ! ) . damn i really can wait ( 8 frekin Months ! ) .
  • Epic and on par with the best in the series!

    LOST does it again. Producing a high quality epic movie of a finale that leaves the competition far behind in the dust. When this show ends in 17 more episodes it will be the end of an era and we may never see deep, layered storytelling in this format ever again.

    Season 5 was ambitious to be sure, and yet it is probably the fastest, most edge-of-your-seat of all 5 so far. Even at this pace and truly embracing it's sci-fi tendencies, the show stayed true to it's beloved characters and the emotional core it's audience is so compelled by. Bravo!!
  • That was a perfect ending. I would give it 11 out of 10 if I could

    That was a perfect ending to an almost perfect season... brilliant writing, acting etc... I would give it 11 out of 10 if I could but... and everyone who thinks that Lost is lost, it's not. He's the lost one... That finale left us with the right tension for the next (and final) season. What happens next? Is Jacob really dead? Who's the other man in the opening scene (we all have some thoughts on that but...) and what happens after the nuclear explosion? Well... That lightning we saw at the end, it was the nuc or a massive electromagnetic energy realise? Can't wait for the final answers!!! 2010 seams too far away!!!
  • Finale! I cant wait for season 6!

    Season 5 Episode 16: The Incident
    In 1977 Jack plans to execute Faraday's plan by exploding the bomb so time is changed. Kate, Sawyer and Juliet try to stop him. In 2007 Richard takes Locke, Ben, Sun and other people to see Jacob while Locke tells Ben to kill Jacob. In flashbacks we see Jacob visitting the people who arrive at the island.

    This was an amazing episode. The first part and second part were awesome! I cant wait for season 6! I dont think Jacob's really dead, maybe somehow we'll be seeing him on season 6. I cant wait for season 6 which starts January 27!
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