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Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S01E12: "Seeds"

For an episode that didn't sound very promising in episode description or name, "Seeds," much like the similarly odd-titled "F.Z.Z.T." from earlier this season, exceeded my expectations. One could argue it's because they weren't that high based on the very little we knew of the episode, but I think that would be unfair here. This episode—silly superstorm effects aside—succeeded in making us laugh and making our hearts hurt, plus it was another origin story for a potential villain. It also answered, at least somewhat, the mystery of Skye, but that's something else altogether.

After some students at S.H.I.E.L.D. Academy (the science and technology division, not operations) were involved in an accident in which an indoor pool suddenly froze over, Fitz and Simmons were called in to speak to the students and find the culprit behind the device that turned all moisture in a certain radius to ice. I don't know if the writers just understand their characters better than the others, but FitzSimmons are continually developed in a more integrated, less obviously clunky way than everyone else. We still don't know that much about any of these characters, but we do know quite a bit about Fitz and Simmons through actual storytelling and less conspicuous exposition. You could argue it's because they're the two characters who don't really have "mysteries" surrounding who they are, and can be developed more easily, but I think it's also that the writers are able to play them off each other because of their close history and friendship in ways they cannot do with the rest of the team.


But Fitz also got to shine on his own in this episode, which is not something that happens all that often. Fitz connected with Donnie Gill, the brightest student at the Academy, as they bonded about similar upbringings and their love of science. It felt completely sincere, and in a way it was, but it broke my heart when I realized what was actually happening and who Donnie would be come through this encounter. Fitz will undoubtedly blame himself for the part he played in Donnie becoming Blizzard, but based on the show's history in the matter, we probably won't be seeing Donnie anytime soon now that he's in S.H.I.E.L.D. custody.

In addition to Fitz's interactions with Donnie and Simmons this week, the writers also gave us a bit of Handsome/Fitz in "Seeds," which is always nice because it softens Handsome's hard demeanor and makes him feel slightly more human than his usual robotic self. His sexual relationship with May is also meant to do this, but so far it's seen little success. In fact, I'd nearly forgotten about their secret liaison entirely until May decided to bring it up to Coulson during a trip to Mexico. They were searching for a former S.H.I.E.L.D. agent who'd gone off the grid in the wake of the murder of his partner—the woman who brought Skye in—and May was being particularly chatty because Coulson was not. But during a stake out still doesn't seem like the best time to drop that kind of knowledge bomb. 


Skye's parentage, along with the mystery of what happened to Coulson after New York, has been one of the series' longest-running threads, and "Seeds" attempted to uncover a bit of that mystery. Skye was an 0-8-4, or an object of unknown origin, that S.H.I.E.L.D. had been called in to retrieve and protect 24 years ago. This could, of course, mean many things, especially knowing that the members of the S.H.I.E.L.D. team who rescued her were eventually killed off one by one until there was only one of them left—the man named Richard Lumley who Coulson and May tracked down in Mexico. The news that Skye might not be completely human is not something I had considered, knowing that the series isn't about people with superpowers, but it's a pretty cool move in general.

Does this new revelation suddenly make Skye more interesting? Not really, because we still don't know what it all means, but it has shined a little light on who she is, and it kind of answers why she's the de facto main character of the series after Coulson. It also resulted in a quiet moment where Skye felt like she'd finally found the place she's always belonged. I'm a sucker for stories about unconventional families, and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is certainly attempting to state its case that S.H.I.E.L.D. is one with episodes like "Seeds." And to be honest, I'm just kind of glad, much like I was last week, that we've learned something about this long-running mystery. Now that we know how Skye came to be in S.H.I.E.L.D.'s care, we can move on to the why, which I assume will probably be Skye's new focus for the rest of the season. Whatever comes of this story, I certainly find this arc more enjoyable than if May, or the agent who brought her in, had been her mother. 


I don't think it would be wrong to declare "Seeds" one of the strongest episodes of Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. to date. Yes, we had to suspend our disbelief a bit to accept Skye's "origin story," but the episode tugged on viewers' heartstrings while also finding moments to make us laugh. And I certainly can't argue against an episode that introduces a future villain and name-drops Hydra, because it ties the series back to the world of comics in a real way. Some viewers will undoubtedly be frustrated by another episode that asked as many questions as it answered, but I'm not really worried about that at this point. We're still in the middle of the season, and the writers are making progress, even if it's slow-going. 



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– This week saw the return of Ian Quinn, who we first glimpsed in the series' third episode. Truth be told, I did not see this coming, but considering the role he also played in the origin story of Graviton, I shouldn't be surprised. I do find it interesting he knows, or is involved with, the Clairvoyant. 

– "My room was exactly like this, except there was a lot more laundry on the floor." (Fitz just gets me.)

– "Simmons is probably smarter, technically, but that's because she likes homework more than life itself."


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OK... Bucky wasn't in S.H.I.E.L.D.

Hell, even in the normal 616-verse, his disappearance pre-dated by A LOT the creation of the organization. And, in the first Cap movie, he literally had nothing to do with them!

So stupid... if you're going to start name-dropping folks, at least try to make it believable.

[Geek rant over.]
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But Bucky was part of the organization that created Captain America and worked to bring down HYDRA, the Strategic Scientific Reserve. Perhaps they started a memorial list that was kept and added to after SHIELD was formed?
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The big reveal about Skye's origins (sort of...) was my best moment in this superb episode. However it got me thinking. My thought Skye is the antagonist to the Clairvoyant. The big good against the big bad?! MAoS super powered defender in the longer story arc?
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So far I like Coulson, Skye and Ward. Maybe the others can die in a dramatic episode and make the series become more interesting? I think I'll still watch it coz I'm a Marvel fan, but I don't like what the show runners are doing with it. It's like no one cares and they just manufacture boring stories coz they know people are gonna watch. The episode had some good moments though but it's still missing something. This series has no soul.
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Skye is an alien... just learn Lady Sif will be on the show. so Skye might be Asgardian!!! hmmmm interesting
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Here's a wild idea. An 084 found in Hunan, China, revered by a small rural Chinese village that gave their lives to protect her, and hunted by a secret but powerful organization. Could Skye actually be the human form of the dragon Fin Fang Foom?
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Doubtful.
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I believe that Skye is actually Going to be Captain Marvel, and her Parents were Kree. I doubt they are going to introduce the inhumans, unless whedon got the rights to YET another marvel Series.
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I think you're right about Skye being a Kree. Since they can't drag mutants, Spidey, or the FF into the series due to contract reasons, aliens, gods and and tech work. Although the story of Ms Marvel was originally due to Carol Danvers being exposed to a Kree device which fulfilled her wish to be like Captain Marvel. Could go any direction at this point though.
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She's Mary Marvel and Billy is out there. Yeah...I have no idea what she is.
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You're mixing up your Captain Marvels.
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I liked this episode. I loved how Coulson struggled with his new understanding about what happened to him in "Tahiti", and how that changed his decision about how much he told Skye. That's really shows growth in his character, along with the amazing response Skye had to her news.

I don't understand why Donnie would go bad guy, he had seemed so affected by the death of his friend. And he didn't seem to want to be involved in the whole deal in the first place. If he does go bad, I hope he's conflicted about it.
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I agre with you and i do hope that this is just the beginning of a no-trust-SHIELD-anymore path. Coulson has shown already that he's not always ok with SHIELD decisions/methods and I think now he'll start to questioning everything that comes from above and I like that :)

On Donnie's issue... I didn't like that last hint of Donnie going bad and I hope (and believe) that he'll be conflicted about it too.
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Poorly written ep. with not a thing in it until the last few lines said by agent Coulson. A massive waste of my time. I'll try to endure it till the end of the season with the hopes that JOSS Whedon will actually get involved in this.
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"Agent Ward and I are having sex."

Best line so far, which is kind of sad when you stop to think about how wrong the whole "Mayward" hookup is, on so many levels. Honestly, this show wasn't a big step up for me. We got into some darker territory in the last episode that was good, and some emotionally resonant material in "F.Z.Z.T," but otherwise, still bland, still boring.
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Ok learning about Skye was interesting, but actually the only cool part was the end, with the storm....!!! The rest of the episode was really boring..
Loved how Coulson followed the guy who was climing the stairs with his car...that was fun, how he was hanging in the air...
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I actually laughed the hardest at this part. I am coming to love the moments when Agent Ward's whole macho hero demeanor drops...




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So basically Iceman originated from S.H.I.E.L.D? Nah, kidding. The highlights of this episode is the last part when Coulson tells May about how Skye take the story about her. Pretty good scene. I wish they show how Skye actually tells them. This episode is a big changer for this series, Skye as 'the big unknown' is cool. Reminds me of 'River Tam' of Firefly minus the robot face.
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Think that show need a member with super power to give it a boost and think that Fury has Agent Coulson brain put in a clone
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Oh, and on a random note: Had the character not already been cast for Avengers 2, I would have straight away put my money being on Skye turning out to be Wanda Maximoff, with the show serving to reveal her backstory in detail and geniously save tonnes of exposition and introduction when the movie comes around.

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Ain't going to happen. The Scarlet Witch is a mutant, no mutants per contract.
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Wrong. Marvel co-owns the rights to Scarlet Witch. Mutant or not, she has already been announced as coming soon to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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Hang onto your money in any case: Wanda Maximoff is supposed to be Magneto's daughter and wields chaos magic (i.e. has superpowers).
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I already am, lol, because though the character is going to join The Avengers in the sequel, they have already cast the actress, and it definitely will not be Skye. That said, I am looking forward to seeing who she truly turns out to be and, I think what the agent said will be true, she will be discovered as having a power.
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You know what I love most of all about the Skye reveals, apart from the fact she now has a mysterious origin to pursue and supposedly a power to (re)discover? That, in retrospect, a lot of moments and lines seem less innocuous than it did before and/or have been given a new spin. Coulson actually said she was like something of unknown origin before. He meant she was enigmatic, but now she is literally an O-8-4. Nick Fury said she was a risk, to which Coulson said he knew. I thought at the time that it was to do with her Rising Tide connections, so when Nick Fury scoffed at Coulson's response, I figured it was him just silently informing Coulson 'that on his head be it', but clearly, with this new insight, Director Fury was clearly hinting that things and reasons we had yet to discover.

This is my favourite kind of writing, and this episode has given me a new-found appreciation for the writers and show-runners. Whilst I still am eager for answers, I am suddenly more than ever enjoying the journey now and suddenly cannot wait for the next episodes to come around, in order to see what comes next and what tidbits of information there is to pick out as revealing of a clearly-thought-and-laid-out tracjectory.
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I really dont care about Skye at all. Am bored whenever anything thing to do with her comes up. I dont care if she fell from the sky really! Fitz and Simmons for me are the best characters. I dislike May. This show is a drag and I have consigned it to the DVR queue for now.
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Simmons was fun as ever. Shield seem to creating supervillains by accident. I think Skye's power is with computers or just to be cute.
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Yes I do feel like Fitz and Simmons are way more developed and likable than the other characters
OMG I also forgot of Mays and Handome's relationship! and btw while chasing a guy I find it the perfect timing to make it a confession.
So what is Skye now? an alien? a robot? please show make it interesting.
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Fitz and Simmons are the most normal and people like them exist.
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Yes, we do exist (lol!) but not always are shown on tv series/movies and when it does it's cool to watch :)
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I've been wanting to write about Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. for some time now (btw, has anyone come up with a good acronym for that mouthful? MAoS? Or are we just going with SHIELD?), but it's not quite the show itself that I want to go on about. No, it's the awesome duo of Leopold Fitz and Gemma Simmons that has caught my attention.

To say that I like these two would be a massive understatement. I started watching MAoS (I guess I've chosen my acronym) for a multitude of reasons. I'm a big comics fan, superhero fan, MARVEL fan, Avengers fan and Joss Whedon fan, so this show seemed like a slam dunk/no brainer to me. It was easily my most anticipated show to watch this past fall season, and with Whedon at the helm, I had few doubts it would become must watch TV.

Well, it hasn't exactly lived up to my lofty expectations going in. I mean, don't get me wrong, I've very much enjoyed the season up to this point. I'm not one of those nitpickers who require cerebral television from all my shows. I loves me some popcorn and explosions from time to time, and if MAoS was simply your standard superhero fare, I would have had absolutely no problem with that.

But thankfully, it's not nearly so one-dimensional, thanks in large part to the excellent cast of characters MAoS has assembled. There are a couple things I require to fall in love with a show. One is good writing (duh) and the other is strong characters with a side order of development (one of the many reasons I cannot stomach the blight of CSI's dominating TV landscape). In my opinion the writing has been formidable, but it's the characters that have made this show shine.

There isn't a single character I don't like, which is rare for an oft cynical bastard like me. So, let's do a character rundown! ...

(So, THAT'S what people losing interest sounds like.)

Agent Coulson has led the team with equal parts panache and dry wit (LOLA!). I don't know how the TV.com universe has reacted to the mystery surrounding his death and resurrection (for the longest time I had my money on clone), but I liked that we didn't discover what happened to him right away, and I like even more that Coulson is still question the validity of the story he's been told (why was it so vital he be revived?). Development has to be earned, and the events of New York have deftly sneaked into the show to help flesh out him out. It's not groundbreaking, but it is solid writing.

Skye, the teams resident hacker, seems to have an even more mysterious backstory than Coulson (or should I say origin story?). Apparently an entire team was massacred to protect her because she has "powers"? What does that mean exactly? Is she a dormant superhero or some sort of alien? I'm not sure, but the added mystery is a smart creative choice and fun to speculate about. What I AM sure about is that she's my second favourite character on the show (I consider FitzSimmons to be one entity). She's goofy, hot, funny, witty, crazy hot, and has been the perfect new set of eyes for us viewers to gauge and explore the MARVEL universe. Oh, did I mention she's hot?
Grant Ward: A S.H.I.E.L.D. black ops specialist is your quintessential straight man to the many antics of the other characters. He's also a walking tough guy cliche, but he's not without his charms (his drive to protect people is endearing). Every show like MAoS needs a gruff guy like Grant, and he fills that role admirably.

Melinda May is A S.H.I.E.L.D ace pilot and weapons expert, whose nickname is "the Cavalry", and is the classic "damaged" character that will slowly come out of her stoic shell. She's got a good relationship with Coulson, and is currently bunk buddies with Ward (I gotta admit I didn't see that coming). She hasn't been developed as much, but her badassery had made up for that.

And now onto the reason I've written a comment that adds nothing new or insightful to the conversation, and feels more like something that would be written for the first episode of the series...

FItzSimmons!

Seriously, I love these two. They're easily the best new character(s) of this TV season (I'm with you @ionee24!) and are quickly becoming one of my favourite character(s) on TV period.

Right from the very first episode they had this effortless chemistry like they had genuinely been together forever. Fitz is hilarious, Simmons is sweet, and there has not been a single episode of this season that they haven't made me laugh/smile. It's kinda crazy to say, seeing as MAoS is pretty damn good in its own right and has expertly expanded the MARVEL universe, but FitzSimmons is my favourite part of this show.

Now onto a debate that could add something to the discussion: What's up with these two? Do we have a solely platonic, brother/sister type relationship here? Or are we thinking down the line that something romantic could spring from this truly adorable friendship?

From what I've seen so far, I'm gonna go with the latter. I'm leaning that way because of one episode in particular when Simmons jumped out of the Bus. I detected a hint of jealousy from Fitz when Ward was the one to swoop down and save Simmons. And unless you're a Game of Thrones character, you don't get jealous when someone else saves your sister.

I'm sure there's a few fans who would hate any sort of romantic injection into their relationship, and I totally get that. I mean, how do improve perfection, right? But they're already so close I don't see why it would adversely affect their chemistry (unless they break up, of course, but that would never happen if the writers put them together).

Here's a quote from Skye that could be construed in different ways: "You and Simmons are so tight, it's like you're psychically linked." Does that prove the platonic point? I'm not sure, but it's interesting to note.

I honestly can't say with any sort of confidence what the writers have in store for our dear FitzSimmons, but mark my words, there will come an episode when either Fitz or Simmons have some guest character who is infatuated by one of them (because they're AWESOME), and the subsequent reaction of the third wheel will be quite telling.

A FitzSimmons only comes along in an Asgardian moon (they have moons, right?), so at the moment I don't really care what their future is, I'm just immensely enjoying their incredible uniqueness right now.

I'm a FitzSimmonsFanatic!

RANDOM NOTES THAT NO ONE WILL READ BECAUSE EVERYONE PROBABLY BAILED BEFORE MY CHARACTER RUNDOWN:

- Graviton now Scorch. MAoS is beginning to build up their cast of baddies. Hey, anyone think the clairvoyant is really MODOK? He's got a history with S.H.I.E.LD. and Captain America (which is the next Marvel movie to be released) and Wikipedia describes his powers thusly:

"Superhuman intelligence, including a computer-like memory, the ability to scour and retain large databanks of information very quickly and solve abstract mathematical problems nearly instantaneously. He also has the ability to calculate the mathematical probability of any given event occurring; an ability so strong that it borders on precognition."

- Speaking of Captain America, I wouldn't be surprised if MAoS created a bridge to that upcoming movie. It would be smart marketing and could lead the way for some star studded cameos.

- Speaking of cameos, I know the excuse for not having any of The Avengers in the show is that they're not level 7 and can't know Coulson has been revived, but how long can the show go before that becomes too stupid? I mean, if the ENTIRE world is in jeopardy, how do you NOT give Tony Stark or Bruce Banner a call?

- I hope Skye isn't an alien. That would be too weird. And if she does have powers, don't make her too powerful. I like that regular humans are making a difference is a super powered world.

- That flashback scene when Coulson was being operated on was super creepy. Just thought I'd add that.
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If MODOK is the clairvoyant then Skye could very well be Captain Marvel?!
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Agreed with everything for the most part, great write-up!

Im definitely one of the fans that wants them together. I know they could just be platonic friends, but I'd like them so much more together.
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Thanks! I think you'll eventually get your wish.
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Oh, and I actually had a similar theory about it being MODOK, especially with AIM having a hand in Centipede somehow. I thought it even more when there was mention of the Centipede Technology increasing at an insanely rapid rate and Raina saying that the Clairvoyant is known for given them formulas to follow and the like. The only problem is, I wonder how that would tie in with Ultron being in Avengers 2....or is the Marvel Cinematic Universe going to be all about A.I going out of control on multiple fronts over the coming years. Given that, I found myself leaning a little towards it being The Leader or, in the ultimate tie-in to the movies, a steady path to Ultron himself.
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Yeah, MODOK could conflict with Ultron being the Avengers 2 villain. But seeing as A.I is the hot new zeitgeist right now (POI, Intelligence, Almost Human), I still think it might happen.
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I'm also hoping that FitzSimmons remain exactly as they are. I am loving that there is finally a platonic male/female friendship on television showing that they can interact and have such love and care for each other without it needing to have sexual tension hanging over things like a dark cloud waiting to shoot lightning just for the sake of it. Xander and Willow on Buffy are one of my all-time favourite pairings but even they were spoiled with unrequited lust and then a random series of hook-ups later on. It was the same with Cordelia and Angel on Angel (just, why??) Shows seem to feel that they need to be a couple for the audience to empathize with one after something tragic happens to the other. But that isn't the case. I love that FZZT displayed that, with me seeing it that Fitz wasn't so much jealous romantically but concerned that, unlike Ward, he doesn't have what is totally necessary sometimes to keep his friend safe. Because potentially losing a best friend is just as heartbreaking as losing a partner.

I don't even think they are each others types, either, to be honest. Which was another element I enjoyed about them. They are so simpatico that they even have the same taste in going for their seeming opposites. Simmons clearly has a thing for strong, heroic, muscular types (Mike Peterson) whilst Fitz clearly has a thing for the sexy, confidently out-spoken, rebel types (Skye).

Just look towards Community in the upcoming weeks to see what a mean, as my actual all-time favourite pairing will be separated. Thankfully, the blow feels slightly less harsh, because given time and proving there isn't some romantic involvement down the line, followed by awkward kisses and the like, to ruin things, I feel FitzSimmons could easily prove on par with Troy and Abed. I mean, look, they are already obsessing about pranks these days.


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I really enjoy their relationship right now, being lab/team partners, but I also think that it would be necessarily more than just that. Perhaps not now, but down the road. I know platonic relationships between a woman and a man could exist and they actually do, but I also think that always you'll find yourself wondering if it'd be something else, something more. Because it doesn't matter if the other person isn't your type (or what you thought was your type) or it matters but isn't the decisive point his that you spend day and night with that person, you share your passion for science/high-tech with him/her, you feel a special conection with him/her just for being "two Englishmen in NY", you have laughed and cried together... the point is: of course you can have only a friendship with that person, but if you both share so many things, I think at some point you may consider that relationship as some thing more.
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Aaargh, sorry for the grammar mistakes! I wanted to say "...or it matters but it isn't the decisive point, it's that you spend day and night with that person".
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Well said.
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Hasn't the show already dropped in things that will bridge things towards Captain America 2? I get the impression that is definitely the plan, given SHIELD play more of a part in his movie than the others. I'm also sensing, given an apparent two-year plan that some of what is coming up will serve to lead directly into Avengers 2, which would be genius from the standpoint of the show fully fleshing out characters and back-stories a lot more thoroughly and less exposition than if they just dropped straight into a movie. Not to mention, allows for character love to grow, so that should they encounter inevitable danger in the movie, the tension and stakes would feel extremely intense, more so than usual, I feel. Just imagine if Fitz was dropped somehow in a battle scene featuring Avengers versus Ultron, emotion would go through the roof, seeing as contrastedly expendable he would seem. All in all, if that does prove the case, the whole Avengers franchise and Marvel Cinematic Universe could end up being something unrivaled and unparalleled and go down as something truly spectacular.
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FitzSimmons in The Avengers would blow my mind! I've been hoping for tie-ins and bridges, but what you're saying is even more ambitious/awesome than that. I hope they follow your playbook.
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Ha. You never know, maybe they are watching. It just makes the most sense to me. Why fill it with random scientists and SHIELD agents that mean nothing and walk around nameless when you can inject characters already know, established, and to varying degrees, adored. Ooo, the tension would be thick enough to cut with a special tension cutting device. (That they probably invented themselves.)
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That was part of the reason I thought Skye might end up being Wanda Maximoff, until that role was cast.
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It did in this episode for Captain America 2.....at the memorial wall Skye reads the name Bucky Barnes, Caps old friend
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Thank god... I thought I was the only one who noticed that...
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Wow, I totally missed that...
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Same here...
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Wow that was a book. And I pretty much agree with what you said.
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TV.com staff, vote this comment up ASAP!
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Thanks, but it does't look like it's gonna happen. I'll delete the notes and post it on the community just for you. :)
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i just want it known that I have been reading your stuff for awhile on here. while I may or may not agree with you on some of the stuff you have said about other shows, this entire comment made me actually create an account so I could reply that I 100% agree with you! and yes I read everything!!
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Thank you so much! Having my comment influence you to create an account is one of the greatest compliments I've ever been given on TV.com. I'm thrilled that I'm not the only FitzSimmonsFanatic!

P.S. I can't help but ask... what stuff didn't you agree with? Be specific! :)
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It was good, and I like the way they have sped up Skye's plot after dragging it out for a while
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This was definitely the best episode since F.Z.Z.T.
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It may be a one off, but far and away the best episode of the season. It made this show feel, for the very first time, organic. Up until now, everything's felt so forced.

FitzSimmons for President
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Yes!
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Finally an episode of MAoS that was interesting in a good way.
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Did anybody else notice what looked like the girl in the flower dress on Ian Quinn's plane or at least what looked like her hair?
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I still find the lack of character development and general writing of the show to be a huge disappointment. I catch up on Downton Abbey, Teen Wolf and Lost Girl, S.H.I.E.L.D. has fallen to the bottom of the list.
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It wasn't a slam dunk, but it WAS better and more promising. Keep on that track, MAoS!
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I have watched this show from day one (like many viewers) I had no hopes or any ideas what it would be and so far I am still interested in the show. will it last longer than a season ? who knows of course if it does not pull in the viewers than no it won't. But the writers have to do is write better stories I mean that's what they get paid for. No superpowers as such and I don't mind it's the small things (well I think) that they do with the show makes it stand out. Will I continue to watch it ? Yes I will.
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It was definitely a really good episode. I enjoyed the name-drop of Bucky Barnes, especially with Captain America 2 coming out soon :) Also, I think Avery was actually the female agent that dropped her off at S.H.I.E.L.D. and was killed? Don't know what the man's name was.

I was really glad Coulson decided to tell Skye the truth. When May said 'you can never tell her,' I was like UHHHHH NO. Don't put us through more episodes of keeping secrets from her. But it absolutely made sense that, after what happened to him and what he's just learned, Coulson wouldn't feel right keeping it from her.

I also enjoyed the little Fitz/Ward moment :) I love those two. Also when Ward started to explain to Skye what 'bad seed' meant, and she was like, yeah, not a S.H.I.E.L.D. term. Just a term.

Okay, so, I definitely have not been on of those viewers complaining about the lack of powers on this show; I am totally okay with or without supers on this show. But I think I might be a little disappointed now if Skye doesn't turn out to have some kind of talent, even something small. Maybe she'll turn out to be some kind of psychic or mind reader - it would be ironic, since she'll always going on about them and is constantly being told they don't exist.
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Let´s just admit something: I watch MAOS mostly because of Simmons & Fitz, obvious for different reasons ;)
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Yeah!
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I think this was one of the better episodes so far. The storyline dealt with the aftermath of Coulson finding out about his resurrection and we finally find out where Skye came from. Also Coulson deciding to tell Skye what they found out instead of lying to her makes him more like his childhood idol, Captain America. Cap should make a visit before the end of this season.

I hope that when the writer's finally decide to reveal who Skye really is, they make her one of Marvel's best loved heroines. I have two votes for this. One is Jessica Drew - Spider-Woman, and two, Wanda Maximoff - the Scarlet Witch.
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Scarlet Witch is in Avengers 2 and is cast so unlikely. Spder-Woman would be cool but I think she'll be a new hero.
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I don't think Skye has a super power. She has never exhibited any, other than her proficiency with computers. That being said, I think her mother could be Viper. Even with her history being somewhat 'fluid' in comicdom, she has been portrayed frequently as working out of Asia. So China isn't a stretch She has also worked against, AND with Hydra. Heck, one of her titles has been 'Madame Hydra'. Skye could have been born during the time she was on the outs with Hydra; and Viper hid her in China to no avail.
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I'm pretty sure the surviving agent said that she had some kind of power, that was why some great force was after her and the whole village died.
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He also said that he, and the other agents never actually saw her display any powers. I think the real mystery is who her parents are. Skye could be the leverage needed to control whoever they are.
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As much as I enjoyed that there was more focus on FitzSimmons, I still feel a little bit like we were jipped the scene where they had to come get unconscious Fitz from Donnie's room. So much emotion to mine there.
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On an unrelated note though, I think I connected more with May this episode than literally any other episode of the season.
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Um...it was good, but I feel like the second half was really weirdly cut together. As my Tuesday issue has returned, I am thinking the Originals is going to win (it actually ends at nine) and I will watch this On Demand. But yes, this is how you give a character some history (with Fitz) without weirdly wrenching the backstory into the main story. Heck, this is how you grow Ward, make sure your two similarly aged female characters become friends and make him come out of his shell by sheer bullying sister power.
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This was a good episode! I like Skye's mystery, and can't wait to see what else comes out.
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Jed and Maurissa - you don't have what you were writing for on 'Spartacus' - a tremendous cast - there they were writing an adult story for a great cast - here they are writing for a bunch of 'couldn't get cast on better shows because they aren't good enough' actors that are just pretty enough to put on ABC - and really, without a single decent actor to carry your words the whole thing just kind of falls apart.

This show still sucks big time. When a show this big is getting compliments for simply not being too horrible its time to pack up the shop and give up. You can completely blame the bland and boring casting on this one (I would argue that they are all completely boring, no exceptions) because look at the playground they gave them. (If there was just one speck of talent among the entire group of them - and that includes Jennifer Grey's husband who was just lucky to get a series from a footnote character from the movies. He was a footnote for a reason.) Take Ward, Skye, Fitz, Simmons, Coulson, and May - put them through a big wood chipper (see, even 'Eagleheart' is miles better than this show) and reboot everything with a new cast. Make the death of this super shit!y team the impetus to improve the series. At least that might make for some watchable episodes. Almost time to drop this disappointing waste of time.
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I loved Spartacus, but the cast wasn't that great. Most of them where Australian soap actors who grunted a lot or took clothes off a lot (with a couple of A+ exceptions like Lawless and Hannah).
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You have to admit the script is pretty bad too though...
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I still think Michael Peterson is going to be Deathlok. I like that SHIELD is building up its own pantry of baddies (and goodies) aside from the movies but I hope that going forward we see some more substantial cross over.
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I really liked this episode. I admit that I did not know Donnie Gill before this episode. I looked him up and he is a real villain/sometime hero. Great. I cannot wait until they start having to battle super-villains of the week.

The dialog in this episode was so well written and the delivery was by people who I could tell enjoyed being in this show. Tight and snappy. Fitz was a firecracker. I liked how Coulson basically ignored May when she said that she was having sex with Ward. He looked like, I knew, who cares, don't let it interfere with the team, but I already knew that.

I loved the Bucky Barnes name drop. Winter Soldier is due this year. I am looking forward to that. I thought for a split second that they might tie Skye's parentage to him.

I did have a thought, when I looked up Donnie Gill, that they could introduce the Inhumans to SHIELD. I would really love an Inhumans movie. I always liked them better than some of the other mainstream comics anyway. Maybe Skye is an inhuman.




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"until there was only one of them left—the man named Avery" - Avery was the dead agent who took Skye to the orphanage. The surviving guy was Richard Lumley.
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Good catch. I wrote this very late. Thanks!
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Avery is a woman. :P
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This is probably the first episode of the show I have enjoyed start to finish compared to all the previous episodes I only found watchable with random enjoyable scenes.

Most shows would be announcing that there won't be a second season right about now but good thing Whedon and Marvel have lots of goodwill with fans and deep pockets.

Looking forward to the second half of the season.

And I hope they don't lock up the flower dress woman for too long.
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What's with calling one of the cadets Callie Hannigan? Just call her Aly Hannigan and give us a true easter egg.
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I much preferred this week's episode over last week's purely because I felt a lot more information and development was given to Skye's 'secret' in comparison it Coulson.

Overall it was an entertaining stand-alone episode with enough heavy serialised elements and good character development/ moments to make me very happy. Keep up the good work, show!
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Loved the bit when she looked at the memorial war and noticed Bucky Barnes name.
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So far this show has been incredibly fun to watch, and it is clearly and very confidently setting up material for a long haul. I like the pace of how things are unfolding.
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Skye is an 084. Huh, I didn't see THAT one coming. Nicely done, assorted Whedons. Nicely done indeed. You have my attention.....
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Thumbs up for "assorted Whedons". Made me chuckle.
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I really loved that they have sort of cleared up some of the Skye mystery by creating so much more!!! I mean we learnt a lot but still have so many questions and I love that!!!!!
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I liked this episode a lot. There seemed to be so much going on and the dialogue seems to have tightened up and is much snappier.

I was really hoping, though, that Mayward was over after their disagreement a few weeks ago and was surprised to find it wasn't. Not because they are a mismatch - May is hot - but because they spent a lot of time establishing her as the 'mom' of the group, something also highlighted in this episode, and now mom is sleeping with one of the 'kids'. Creeps me out a bit. And the Asgard staff anger has disappeared completely. Apparently it can take decades to wear off ... or you can just have sex.
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The anger never disappeared, May is just better at dealing with it. I never say May as the 'Mom' of the group. She's the distant cousin come to visit. Coulson, on the other hand is DEFINITELY the Dad.
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Really enjoyed this episode, it seemed to end too quickly, but with a nice touch. From the smart alec quips & the tag team speech by FitzSimmons right through to the team interactions, another great episode. Even "Tin man" had his moments. I think they have a good mix going at the moment.
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Every episode gets better. The character development of ALL the characters was brilliantly done. I really can't pick a favorite bit. Well, maybe Coulson using Lola's flight capabilities to go after the guy on the fire escape. That made me laugh.
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Great episode. I really like the father daughter like relationship between Skye and Coulson. This show is just getting better and better.
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This was a really great episode. Much better than last week.
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"We got to find a way to reach, Donny! I need ideas, people!"

"I've got one!"

".... we could just fly the plane down there and pick him up. Smartest guy in the room, right here."
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