Ever since the first 2 eps, I figured it would pick up the pace and get better, but lately I haven't really kept much interest in the show. They keep dragging out the details and it's getting very frustrating. Even the tiny scraps of detail pisses me off because it isn't enough. They need more character details to make us care about the characters than to see this guy/gal is the brain and that person is the muscle. How about either give up more info now or do a flashback ep featuring the person. That would be the best way for us to get a better understanding of the characters. I fear the more this keeps happening, then I'm just going to give up after the season is over. With everything the comics have, you'd think they'd do more stuff like fighting aim or hydra which are more comparable to an organization like sheild. These case of the week stuff isn't doing it anymore and they should also bring in some of the other shield characters that are more recognized.
This show is not compelling enough! It is so average, set in the Marvel universe and this is the material you can come up with? THIS DOESN'T FEEL LIKE MARVEL! THIS DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WHEDON. I was excited for this show and it has been such a let down. FORTUNATELY there's The Tomorrow People, Almost Human and my usual faves. I'm still hoping this show gets it together somehow.
You know you love Joss Whedon when each week you fight yourself to continue watching this show.
I grew up with Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel, as my two first tv shows and they in turn set me on a path to watch tenfolds more. I have faith in Joss' capabilities and even though I can't quite tune in on the frequency that this show is going on, I do believe that in time, I will be able to. What I think needs to happen first is: character development (a lot of it) and we all know if there's one thing Joss exceeds at, it's just that...
Secondly: they really, really need a big bad and most preferably someone known or lesser known (but still known) in the Marvel universe! Like Kingpin or some secret organization; I'm well aware that they've already set us up with that but let's be honest here, that was too forgettable. I barely remember anything from that setup at all.
When I start seeing a change and when I can't wait for the next episode the moment the one I'm watching ends, that's when I'll change my score.
Look I went into this really wanting to like it. The acting quality is poor (think Power Rangers), The story-lines are nothing we haven't seen done elsewhere a whole lot better (Heroes or Alphas) and is probably something maybe little kids would enjoy (again think Power Rangers). Not sure why FANBOYS are yet again in full force to defend a show that is quite frankly boring. We should all demand better than this.
Was a bit sceptical at first, but truly love the show. I love the correlation between the show and the movies, it's like the small connections between the movies themselves. The cast has grown on me, and can't believe ratings have dropped. I look forward to watching the show, each week. I hope it stays on, all the way through the MCU phase 3 of movies.
You can't go into a television show expecting it to be like the Marvel movies. It's not. It's television - high quality, funny, television. Clark Gregg is an understated comedy genius, and this show is classic Joss Whedon. It has action, comedy, three dimensional characters and heartfelt relationships. What more could you want?
@GrrtWill: You watched last episode and still complain about Coulson? The only thing he ever told was that he was on Tahiti and that "It is a magical place". He i saying this like he was primed to it. This was shown when he was asked last episode and stopped for a split-second mid sentence.
In the ending of this episode he wanted access to files about him self and they told him he has no right to get it.
I want to know how he was ressurected (Maybe cloned by Prof. Miles Warren).
I like it that they dont feed us with cameos. I love watching Agents of SHIELD and thining about the fact that this show is canon to the movies. This means that everything that we find out about the world could be used in the movies.
Don't go into this show expecting to see Iron Man or Thor, or really any of the biggies- that's not what this show is about.
It's simply using that world and those events as the context for this show- the only actual character overlap is Caulson (plus the occasional cameo from Colbie or Sam).
TBH I'm pleasantly surprised that the show isn't simply trying to feed off the movies. The main focus is rather on the characters that make this new team of "normal" people in an increasingly uncanny world.
So far, it's been a case-of-the-week style show that has yet to introduce any major antagonist- but it's okay because we've been exploring these characters through minimal exposition, and mostly through team dynamics and crisis management. I'm particularly pleased with the ways that each team members' unique strengths are consistently demonstrated, and useful to solving their problems.
I was skeptical, but I'm very happy with what I've see so far!
It's set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which is inspired loosely by the darker undertones of the Ultimates alternate universe (although Hulk is yet to be a cannibal, and the X-Men have not been inducted yet), so there's a lot of ground to cover. Of course, it's not about the ones we should be watching the show for, but it's rather about measly . agents who take on scenarios that wouldn't be out of place in the late sci-fi program 'Fringe'. It should pay more mind to the universe it is set in, but it feels like it is in a time warp somehow. I long for the day that Iron Man or Hulk appear and show these suits how things should really get done.
My main problem with the show is that it has almost no identity of its own, and the premise, while economical (could you imagine anyone being able to afford an entire season featuring Samuel L. Jackson or Robert Downey let alone both of them, in every episode? Just thinking of that is a mind screw), is not intriguing. Why should we care about these characters? While Fitz & Simmons received the only plausible character development so far in the previous episode, everyone else is flat as can be. Also, the rather vague explanations as to why, let alone how Coulson survived being impaled through the heart by Loki's scepter in The Avengers.
I know that it's a show about rather ordinary human beings (skilled ones at that) dealing with various sci-fi events, most of them tied into the Marvel Cinematic Universe (and in some cases expanding it, not always for the better mind you), but I want to see another cameo from a major player. I'm not interested in the unbelievable Skye, Ward is too stoic to care about, Ming-na might as well be Ward because she's arguably more effective in her talents, and Coulson really shouldn't be alive. Fitz & Simmons are the most likeable, not to mention most distinct of the cast yet they're minor players in comparison to the aforementioned characters. And the show has a similar episodic structure to the early days of the somewhat lackluster Smallville; throw a whole new enemy/villain & opening incident for every episode and hope we don't lose interest because, you know, who wants an arcing storyline that expands into successive episodes?
And unlike The Avengers before it, it doesn't strike a fantastic balance in seriousness & comedy. In fact, it is rather pale and lifeless, not knowing what it really is. Is it a sci-fi serial? Is it a comic book adaptation made into a series? Is it a dramedy? Is it a spy thriller? Or is it all of those things? Perhaps I should call it a rip-off of the unjustly cancelled Fringe, with a Marvel Cinematic Universe tinge, because that's what it is so far.
I'll keep watching for a while longer, but until they remind us that they are indeed in the same universe as the Hulk, or even Iron Man, I'm going to lose interest fast. I don't want this to happen but I have to be honest, it's not living up to its mantle.
There is something to be said about a show that has been created inside a movie universe. Being the first of it's kind it will have a bumpy ride ahead of itself, that being said the marvel fans have voiced their love and hate. This show has had a promising start, and as the stars get more comfortable in their roles, and the creators get a better voice and pacing for their characters and storyline, which has felt a little rushed, a state of nirvana will be found. The show also has the tough criticism of being thought of as a Joss Whedon show and the shows that exist in the Whedonverse have their high praise in TV history. The fact is that while Whedon and his family are the creators, with Joss's busy schedule his name will only appear on occasion in the writing credits.
With a new shiny faced cast we get to see a new talent emerge. Chloe Bennet is funny and real as the "mysterious" Skye, as she gives the person on the outside of the secret organization while being apart of another secret possibly but most likely evil organization aspect, you know the simple stuff. Brett Dalton as Agent Ward is closed off and uncertain while at the same time getting used to being on a team of agents fighting to achieve a safer world, a world beginning to evolve and change. Elizabeth Henstridge and Iain De Caestecker as the aptly named "Fitz Simmons" are the relief from the darker tones as their scientifically sci fi banter works hilariously well. being the bio and engineering experts on the team fresh out of the academy we experience the new world with them, as they begin to get more comfortable out in the field. Simons being flighty and almost organic in her nature it will be interesting to learn more about her character as the episodes go on. She is though the perfect opposite to Fitz's calculative and, nervous personality. Ming Na as Agent Melinda May plays a more experienced and wise character, May Is tough on the outside from her years as an active agent but has a slightly gentle yet lethal nature underneath almost Motherly as they have pointed out on the show. While Clark Gregg is not as unknown to me as the others, his Character Agent Phil Coulson has become nearly legendary in the movie universe, and to see his character get more fleshed out we learn that he was a tough and forward person, and is always thinking a few steps ahead of the others, Being a character brought back from death, there is an uncertainty in what has happened to him, and only the future holds the answer.
Okay, so far this show has been kind of a letdown, but it's still a pretty entertaining one. And there's one big reason to keep watching: Clark Gregg. Seriously, his acting is so much better than everyone else's it's not even funny, and Coulson is a fantastic character. Now to be honest, if it weren't for him I don't think I'd keep coming back. But isn't anyone at least a little interested to keep following his arc? I certainly am. Meanwhile, by all means let's keep on criticizing the formulaic jokes, lame acting and almost non-existent character development for the rest of the cast. However, let's hold out a small hope that it will improve. We wanted a little more character development, and the last episode gave us that for Fitz and Simmons. We wanted to see different pairings, and the next episode is going to give us Ward and Fitz.
We've already had a super-villain origin story, and who knows but what Skye could be Spider-Woman? Or Coulson The Vision? Don't put it past the makers to spring a major surprise on us when we've been lulled into thinking it was just another procedural.
This show could be that slow starter out of the gate that turns into something awesome. So, hang in there everyone.
This show is grade A HORRIBLE. Why? Well it is not because of the acting, or the effects or any of the other reasons that usually kill a show. So why does this show stink so bad? Quite simply because it refuses to be what it is. Its a show about Superheroes that doesn't have any superheroes!!!! ITs the cat that thinks its a dog, or the bad singer in the shower who thinks American Idol is calling. The only reason anyone cares about . in comic, television, film, or any other medium is because they deal directly with Superheroes, take them out of the equation and Presto!! your show stinks. Now I understand the need to take your time and develop background, etc... but if you lose our attention getting there what good will it do. If you are in the Marvel universe, be IN the Marvel Universe. Nobody wants to watch a weak version of Fringe or X-Files. Get it together people, we want our Universe, ALL OF IT, not saying you have to have top tier characters in the show, but you have got to have SOME for crying out loud. A superhero show without superheroes is like sex without orgasm, boring, and not worth doing. And.... if you say its not a show about superheroes, well... cancel it right now, because it stinks and there is no saving it.
I've watched the premier episode and liked it. Nothing too great but not bad at all either. Then came the second episode and I just couldn't believe my eyes (and ears). Sadly literally nothing worked. The action was unmotivated and nonsensical, the dialogue and banter formulaic and bland, the characters stereotypical and shallow, and the lack of effort of the writers and the actors sometimes outright annoying.. As if everybody involved had no greater ambition than to make just another teen-superhero-whatever flick and get home early.
Agents succeeds in only one thing: emulating 80's TV. It's all been seen and done so many times. As if the writers have been in cryogenic sleep for all these years.
Will give it another chance and watch the rest of episode 2 and then some. Not much hope though.
edit: Watched 5 episodes now. Show is crap. Like made in a test tube, desgined to cater to a certain demographic. I know this is true for many shows but here it just doesn't add up.
this show is amazing this show is completely funny. I love this show for its characters it always makes sense, its an on going show thats always interesting to find out whats next. I wish i had an opportunity like this characters do to play apart in a great show like this one.
I really like how they are incorporating the Marvel movies into a tv show. From that prospective this show is groundbreaking. I do find that a lot of the ideas are kinda old and worn out, but overall this show is very entertaining.
Inna show's creative staff need to be reminded that this is "Agents of Airborne" as so much of the show's style seems to reflect.
So far, we've been treated to not ONE but TWO washed-out duplicates of existing Marvel characters (Luke Cage & Sunfire). These disappointing doppelgangers brought to us by a pale imitation of Advanced Idea Mechanics, made even MORE insulting to the fan base this show ultimately depends on, considering that Iron Man III establishes . as the "point-of-origin" of the Extremis process.
This show's producers need to stop trying to re-invent the wheel, or in this case, re-invent the Marvel Universe inna fashion that makes the bean-counters of network TV production-costs happy.
Throw-away lines about "Stark Tower" cos-play groupies alone is not gonna cut it if you're going to live up to the promise of a "reality" with 50 years of fictional history that contains literally THOUSANDS of characters to draw from.
Example: Stan Lee's original intention with SHIELD (in his own written words in "Origins of Marvel Comics") was to "out-bond James Bond". HIS super-spy RUNS HELI-CARRIER is one of MANY grand, creatively impressive facilities at this organizations' command. Even the cars SHIELD uses are designed to take on SUPER-VILLIANS, not just the usual jihadist-yahoos careening around with machine-guns & RPG's inna beat-to-crap Toyota pick-up.
So when you give us a "dirt-side" facility with a cool name (Sling-Shot) then disappoint the daylights out of the fan-base you depend on by making it not much more than a desert encampment where the main characters are treated to the now-mundane experience of a CONVENTIONAL rocket launch (REALLY? at a facility called SLING-SHOT?!?!?!?), I'm forced to conclude SOMEBODY in charge don't GET IT.
If the producers of this series do not address these problems quickly, SHIELD will be done-in not by a malevolent organization bent on world-domination, but by a mid-season REPLACEMENT.
... but it is not nearly as good and catchy as i had hoped for. I look forward to the next episode of shows like hostages and blacklist, where this became more of a "filler" show for me, i had high expectations though - hope it gets another season, and picks up its game!
I've seen I suppose four episodes by now, and I still find this show puzzling. First off, it's a show based on a superhero universe that doesn't have superheroes. Why is that supposed to be interesting. The characters feel generic, although Ming-na is pretty cool. And Clark Gregg is the guy who plays the slightly ridiculous minor executive, not the guy who plays the cool team leader.
That being said, it's not bad. In a weak season for dramas, it is perfectly watchable. If it's cancelled tomorrow I won't care a jot, but in the meantime I'll probably keep watching, hoping it's going somewhere.
i have seen so much dislike for MAoS already and i have to say that i don't want it to end up like so many other shows do now a days, canceled and thrown away before they got a chance to hit their groove.
for example: the knight rider series that was on in 2008. the pilot was great and then the next half season was lack luster at best, but then they changed so much about it. they took out the government agents and made the team a small 4 man group just going araound trying to help people, giving them that same feel from the original while updating everything to the 2000's. but because the fan base had quit after only 6 episodes(give or take) the majority never saw the good episodes and it got canceled.
there are many other examples of shows that have a slow start only to become great just before it got canceled just because the people didn't give it a chance.
so please give this one a season because it is already showing potential they have shown the creation of a super villain and they have shown (what i believe to be) a mutant, which shows me they may have mutant groups showing up like x-men(if they can) or x-force idk but we'll see
so my review is that i am enjoying the show and the actors seem to be getting used to their roles 5 episodes in, i liked the villain that was created and that they seem to have brought in a mutant and i think that it shows they have potential and hopefully they will prove it by the end of the first season. my 8.5 is for the fact that i have fully enjoyed it so far and i see the potential and (hopefully) the direction the writers are going with it. i can see the great things it has in store and i believe season 2 will be Awesome
I admit, when I first heard about AoS I had really high expectations. Unfortunately they were not met. But the story arc is moderately interesting and I admit it is still too early on in the show to form an actual opinion. Hopefully the show will pick up speed in the coming episodes.
The show has potential to be great. I can only hope that this potential is exploited correctly and I do keep my fingers crossed that the next episode will be better.
I think I am not the only one who was quite excited about a true comic book adaptation coming to life as a TV series - especially with Joss Whedon on board. And the trailer also looked quite promising.
But, what a disappointment: episode after episode drags along with formulaic characters and storylines, most of the dialogue and twists (if you can call them that) are predictable, and humour is also reduced to a few puns and jokes here and there.
Seeing all those generally empty characters run around from mystery to mystery, from another car chase to another shootout to another fight makes me - as with many other shows - kinda sad in regards to the missed potential.
Why do supernatural elements and powers need to be taken so seriouisly? Why does it seem to much to bear for the viewers to receive characters and storylines with depth? Why is it so difficult to have fun (or make fun of the proceedings in a series that deals with over-the-top gadgets and crazy gimmicks)? Why are most attempts at such series so half-behinded - despite such rare gems like SONS OF ANARCHY or BREAKING BAD or (one of the very few exciting newbies this year) MASTERS OF SEX? - Even the bad guys are boring!
Too bad for the potential - a bunch of agents, but no marvels.
The only character which is somewhat interesting is Agent Coulson, he has some mystery and hints of depth and is the only one you can really identify yourself with. The rest of the characters are just cheap, flat, stereotypical caricatures that annoys more than anything else. "The sexy hacker chick" is just bland, it's a token hottie for the pubescent males, she's just plain stupid with hacking skills and looks, brings nothing interesting to the show. "The hunky agent", more cheap writing, cookie cutter "By the book good guy", there to appeal to the few girls interested in the series, maybe some young males for role modeling. Gun play, experience in the field and looks, no more. "The crazy scientists", almost interesting, a bit too much of the pseudo technical mumbo jumbo to be believable, appears more extrovert than introvert which is counter intuitive to the characters, too young to be believable as well. Inventors, technicians, physicists and now surgeons as well!? Give me a break.
The plots are mildly interesting, some vague clues to an antagonist organisation which could be exploited way more. So far every episode is a crammed together story more or less individual to the other episodes. This series stories would benefit very much from pacing the storywriting more, make one story a trilogy of episodes and flesh out everything more. Give everyone a chance to develop the characters, to dive into the details of the story and the current quest.
But I guess this is not what the ones who have ordered and paid for this series want. they want short "action-thick" episodes with extremely simplistic characters to cater for the tweenies and snack-watching people with short attention spans.
People are judging this show to hard based on the pilot. Every show has a slow pilot or it's doesn't captivate people, that's OK (look at Breaking Bad). Agents of Shield doesn't have the budget like it's sister blockbusters, instead it focuses on characters and dialogue.
In terms of writing and characters, Network TV shows have a lot to compare when it comes to Agents of Shield.
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