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Official Discussion Thread - "Valerie on the Stairs" (Spoilers)

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    VillaFan

    [1]Dec 30, 2006
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    Please discuss the episode "Valerie on the Stairs" in this thread. These threads will appear each week to prevent topics repeating themselves on the forum.

    Episode Summary

    Rob Hanisee is a writer that has a strange apparition. Beautiful, naked and mysterious, Valerie might be the muse that Rob has always searched for or the manifestation of a much darker force.Blood and death follow Rob across the line between life and art.
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    wallness

    [2]Dec 31, 2006
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    Just want to pat on the back of Mr. Mick Garris. His three episodes in the Masters of Horror are among the handful of watchable ones in the whole series. Great job in the interesting story-telling you have done.
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    subpardaemon

    [3]Jan 1, 2007
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    this was a fine episode indeed. although the story is not that original, the execution and the mood were top quality stuff. and the ending was beautiful. so far this season, this is a close second to the great screwfly solution -- now that was an original episode!
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    Vnqshr

    [4]Jan 1, 2007
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    I found Valerie on the Stairs to be quite predictable. It was alright, but I wouldn't say it was great. Probably one of my least favourite episodes this season (although not as bad as The V Word or Pelts). If you liked (or didn't like) this film, check out "In the Mouth of Madness", a similar John Carpenter film which is far superior to this short. Valerie was still entertaining and interesting though.
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    RockSiren

    [5]Jan 6, 2007
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    Im with vnqshr on this one.  Actually the three by Mike Garris seem hurried, and are among my least favorites this season.  This season as a whole has been a bit of a disappointment to me.  Mouth of Madness was better, and I found the ending really quite disturbing...especially since they didnt really explain his memories.
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    diaboyos

    [6]Jan 7, 2007
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    I didn't really care for this episode either.   For starters the Blood Demon or whatever he was called, could have been made up alot better.  They should have chosen an actor that didn't have moobies and a beer gut at least!  And they should have synthesized his voice to make it sound more menacing. 
    It seems like they're holding back.  I think the producers are wary of another Imprint fiasco.  Which, of course, I don't know why that was banned.  It's not like it was airing on Fox!  Showtime is a pay channel they should be free to show some graphic content.
    Still waiting on some good horror...
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    chadc1979

    [7]Jan 7, 2007
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    So by the guy turning into all paper/the story at the end, does that mean he never existed in real life either, is that right? It does seem like showtime does have alot more rules now. It's like they really want to increase viewership and so they take any complaint and run with it. That's why they got rid of queer as folk because people didn't like gay people, and they banned frontal male nudity, and them someone probably saw the gore on this show and cried and e-mailed them saying they were having nightmares, so they probably cut that back too. I would say that this season isn't as good as last, because it seems less horror, more weirder topics, and sometimes I even am kind of bored over half way into an episode wondering when it's gonna pick up. Now ABC has "Masters of Science Fiction" coming out with 6 episodes this spring. If I watch that and think it's better than this, I'm really gonna start getting worried. For now though I plan on watching this show as long as it's on. I always like a new story. Maybe they just are trying different things and seeing what works best. I'll bet the 3rd season will be better than this one, because enough people will contact them saying they tamed up the show way too much. It would be great if they ended up airing imprint someday, albeit even later, if they ever do.
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    RockSiren

    [8]Jan 8, 2007
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    Well you dont want to synthesize Tony Todd!
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    subpardaemon

    [9]Jan 20, 2007
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    this was a moody outing, heartfelt at places, also, valerie was indeed a sexy slut! however, the very ending... that was pure bliss. poetic stuff. that alone made watching this ep worthwhile.

    and tony todd... well... he is the one and only tony todd. mucking up his voice would have been a sacrilege. and a demon with a beer belly (with optional "moobies") is always more believeable to me than fitness-gym-bred perfect muscle-toned bodied blasphemies from the belly of the beast. i say! more demons with beer bellies! i mean, for the love of [insert your deity or hellish overlord here], they're supposed to be demons, hellbent but also hedonistic every now and then, and not the latest from the schwarzenegger cloning industry. bah!

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    sfviewer

    [10]Feb 12, 2007
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    masters of horror episodes are perhaps the goriest episodes i've seen made for cable tv, but the episodes are not scary, their just gory. 
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    Edgeman

    [11]Feb 15, 2007
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    I liked the irony used in this episode. Consider that Valerie and the Beast wanted to be real, but even if they did become real in that world, they would still be fictional. I also enjoyed the theme of how we use fiction to express emotions we can't express normally, and how those emotions could backfire on us if we don't express them. Look at the three authors, they created that characters of Valerie and the Beast along with the story "Valerie on the Stairs" out of their unexpressed emotions, and they were each killed by their very own creations.
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    Helostwin

    [12]Oct 13, 2010
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    Total frontal male (or female) nudity HAS NEVER been allowed on American TV including cable except for porn channels. It's an AUTOMATIC X-rating.

    I thought him turning into paper at the end was one of the dumbest endings of any ep I've ever seen.
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