Hello again, didn't quite expect that sort of reaction I'll just defend myself once and then I'd like to move on to talking about the show again.
This sort of discussion comes up on a lot of forums and I think, continuing to watch a show when you don't like it is similar to continuing to read comments from people that you don't agree with. The easy answer to that would be, 'if you don't like someone's comments, just don't read them. Skip over those posts and move on.' But I wouldn't say that because I can't dictate why someone may want to or not want to read posts from someone they feel is negative.
Maybe they like to see if their favourite show needs defending, maybe they like to hear opinions different to their own, maybe they like to feel their blood boil. I couldn't say, but I'm not going to tell someone what to read or what to watch. That's their business. I think it's actually good to surround yourself with people who have different opinions to your own. It's good for the soul.
I enjoyed 5 of the episodes this year, and I enjoyed parts of some others. I would like to be able to talk about what I liked, and what I didn't, like everyone else here does. That only seems fair. Yes, I did notice there are some new people here (welcome all!) but I'd like to point out that I'm not one of them. I've been here all season. My first posts to the forum were wholly positive. If they've become less so, that's because I feel the quality of the 3rd season deteriorated, not that I decided to be more "negative". In fact, my review of THIS episode had the word "love" 8 times, and "hate" not even once.
Having said that, there is a difference between just being negative for the sake of trashing something, and wanting something you like to achieve its potential and trying to describe or share that feeling with others. I don't think family shows necessarily lack clever plotting or complexity or some adult themes. I think most people here have been respectful and constructive (including hopefully myself) and as this forum invites a range of opinions, that should be okay. You can usually tell the difference. Negative posts are like: "That sucked! These writers are idiots." Whereas constructive comments are usually more like, "I didn't like this because…" and "I wish they would do this…" There's a difference. If the writers/producers of the show scan forums like these (and I think there is some evidence that they do) then it's not really fair to try and silence opinions that differ from your own. The producers have a right to hear how their show is going over with a range of viewers. Kids and grownups (they do say they aim the show at both), those who love everything, those who love some aspects but have reservations, those who like the concept but not the execution and those who have had a gut full. Maybe it will influence them with how they approach the series next year, maybe not. But this is a free focus group for the producers. It might be the more avid fans -- those that join discussion forums rather than casual viewers -- and comments will probably be either wildly enthusiastic or hyper-critical. But the forum shouldn't skew one way or the other because people of different opinions have been suggested to leave.
Anyway, happy to debate this somewhere else that's appropriate, but I don't think an episode discussion forum is the place. You can PM me:
This has always been very obvious to me, and even though it can be a bit frustrating I don't really mind it. TPTB don't know if the show is gonna be picked up and under which terms until very late so they need to play with loose and open plotlines to adjust and map out the new series accordingly.
Yes, I do understand the practical necessities of TV and good producers are definitely able to go with the tide. Let me try and explain it a different way.
I feel as if the final episode was approached like:
The last episode is gonna be great. There's going to be all these iconic things like the Round Table and the Knights of Camelot. We'll see the Lady of the Lake again and from her we'll get Excalibur. There'll be this huge fight sequence at the end and Morgana will go fully Evil! Merlin will put Excalibur in the stone and that will be our final frame.
So to me, the episode progressed like they were ticking off these plot points. Round Table? TICK Knights? TICK Excalibur? TICK? It had that "feeling" about it. Does that make any sense at all?
So for instance, they have to get from Point A to Point B, like: Merlin and Co. retrieve the cup but we want the M&Ms to have it. Solution, Merlin accidently loses it over a cliff where a guard just happens to be waiting to catch it. Someone in the writing team needed to say: "hang on, we've already shown that Merlin can stop a pale of spilled water from hitting the ground. We'll have to come up with a different solution." But no, and the damage to the character is done.
For instance, they want to have a Merlin/Arthur buddy scene in each episode, but often don't write it organically into the plot but rather slot it in the same place, before the second act. Merlin comes in to do something in Arthur's rooms, says something cheeky, Arthur throws something at him. And that does damage to those characters, making their friendship seem to be in a rut.
They want to give Angel something to do but haven't written her organically into the plot -- so they have her arrange some flowers, or come to Arthur just before the battle and tell him she believes in him. Result: Gwen's character is wasted.
Granted this episode didn't have so many of these pat solutions because it was jam-packed with iconic happenings. But rather than rush them all into the last episode they might have been better to build these things more slowly, and give them the time that they deserved. For instance, if Morgana had taken over Camelot earlier in the season, Gwen had been given the role of palace spy for at least several episodes, risking her life and staying just one step ahead of the M&Ms and Percival had turned up earlier and we got to know him and see the Knights-to-be working and living together before they were all suddenly knighted.
I'm not the first and only person to have these criticisms, and I voice them in the hopes that someone reads them.
I just feel that if they approached it slightly differently -- from a "character" perspective, letting the characters drive the plot rather than the milestones, you might have had a similar result this season, but without seeming so rushed and mechanical. Those of you who felt the same way might see what I mean. But if it didn't seem that way to you -- that's okay too Peace!
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