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Rewatching Merlin 3x04 'Gwaine' [2011]

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    pcdsa

    [1]Jul 9, 2011
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    It is interesting how perspectives change once the show has progressed and we've gotten the chance to know the characters better. It is also funny to realize how we are able to catch up on new things when we watch the episodes over again.
    People who have decided to join in:

    Episode Rewatching Thread wrote:
    1. boom-moo.
    2. Illegalferret.
    3. pcdsa.
    4. AC.
    5. Witchyweasel.
    6. Dpebbleson.


    Rules are as follows:

    1. We are getting started on the first Saturday of 2011 and a new thread will be open every following Saturday. We are following the order in the list above to open threads and we are selecting the episodes in sequential order, so all 39 episodes of the three series will be rewatched. Double-parter episodes will be rewatched together, so the rewatching will start on Saturday January 1st and end in Saturday September 3rd.

    2. Everyone opening a rewatching thread should copy and paste the information in this entry (Introduction, List of participants and Rules) in the first post. That way, keeping track of the turns and our progress will be easier and also having the rules at hand will be useful for those who might decided to join us half way through.

    3. Everyone opening a rewatching thread is responsible for reminding the next person in the list to do the same the following Saturday (sending a pm on Friday should do it).

    4. Anyone not being able to open a thread on a particular Saturday can swap turns with the next person in the list (or anyone else) as long as they keep track of their respective turns.

    5. Everyone opening a rewatching thread has to propose a new topic in the "The Best and Worst of Merlin" thread.

    6. Agreed that we all sometimes just don't have the time or the inclination to leave comments, so it is not compulsory to rewatch and/or comment on every single episode.

    7. Anyone is most welcome to join at any time. Boom-moo will make sure to add new members to the list.

    8. If you don't own the DVDs or the episodes, don't let that stop you from joining. Feel free to pm boom-moo who can give you a link to a site where to watch them online

    9. Should anyone have any doubt, do not hesitate to pm boom-moo.

    10.Failure to repeatedly comply with the rules will allow the editor to remove participants from the list.


    As we rewatch, we can work on filling the following lists:

    -Magic and spells
    -RIP list
    -Lives Saved list
    -What Arthur calls Merlin
    -What Merlin calls Arthur
    -Arthur's attributes to becoming the great king of legend
    -Arthur is knocked unconscious or prevented from knowing about Merlin's magic
    -What Uther says about magic
    -Potions made by Gaius
    -Gaius's smacks
    -'I have faith Arthur will become a great king' statements
    -Merlin and Great Dragon meetings
    -Great Dragon's riddles
    -Morgana's premonitory dreams
    -Morgana's smirks of doom
    -Arthur and Gwen moments
    -Chestporns/Bodyporns
    -Dungeon time
    -Fashion.

    -Also, we can keep adding funny arguments to the "Things we've learnt watching Merlin" thread.

    This week we are rewatching series 3 episode 04 Gwaine.


    Thank you all and enjoy rewatching



    3x04 Masterlists:

    Episode 3x04 magic and spells:
    -Merlin makes a bench levitate and throws it against two thugs (using a spell).
    -Merlin makes some plates levitate and throws them against some thugs (using his mind).
    -Cylferth enchants the magical crystals (using a spell).
    -Dagr and Ebor use the crystals' magic to impersonate Sir Oswald and Sir Ethan.
    -Merlin sees Dagr's face in Dagr/Sir Oswald's crystal.
    -Merlin tears Dagr's saddle girth broken (using his mind).

    Episode 3x04 RIP list:
    -Cylferth, killed by Dagr.
    -Sir Oswald, killed by Dagr.
    -Sir Ethan, killed by Ebor.
    -Sir Oswald and Sir Ethan's servant killed by Dagr.
    -Gwaine kills Dagr/Sir Oswald and Ebor/Sir Ethan in the melee.

    Episode 3x04 Lives Saved list:
    -Gwaine saves Arthur's life during the tavern brawl.
    -Gwaine saves Arthur's life during the melee.

    What Arthur calls Merlin:
    -

    What Merlin calls Arthur:
    -Simple, (to Gwaine) a good man.

    Arthur's attributes to becoming the great king of legend:
    -Arthur helps a barmaid in distress.
    -Arthur speaks up for 'commoner' Gwaine when accused of attacking a knight who demanded his execution. -Arthur tells Gwaine that his father is wrong in his decision to banish him from Camelot.

    Arthur is knocked unconscious or prevented from knowing about Merlin's magic:
    -He is busy fighting (first at the tavern, then during the melee) when Merlin uses his magic to help him.

    What Uther says about magic:
    -Sorcery!

    Potions made by Gaius:
    -None.

    Gaius's smacks:
    -None.

    'I have faith Arthur will become a great king' statements:
    -Merlin tells Gwaine that Arthur's not like Uther.
    -Gwen tells Gwaine that Arthur will try and repay the fact that Gwaine saved his life. She adds that Arthur is not like Uther, that he is fair, loyal and that he'll be a great king.
    -Gwaine reckons that Arthur stood up for him and that he is a noble man.

    Merlin and Great Dragon meetings:
    -None.

    Great Dragon's riddles:
    -None.

    Morgana's premonitory dreams:
    -None.

    Morgana's smirks of doom:
    -None.

    Arthur and Gwen moments:
    -It is obvious for Gwaine that Gwen has feelings for Arthur when she praises him as someone opposed to Uther and who will make a great king one day.
    -Arthur is jealous when he realizes that Gwaine and Gwen are acquainted.

    Chestporns/Bodyporns:
    -Gwaine's chestporn.
    -Sir Oswald's chestporn.

    Dungeon time:
    -None.

    Fashion:

    Merlin:
    -Blue shirt with red scarf and brown jacket (day 1).
    -Blue shirt with blue scarf and maroon jacket (day 2).
    -Red shirt with blue scarf and brown jacket (day 3).
    -Red shirt with blue scarf.
    -Red shirt with blue scarf and brown jacket.
    -Blue shirt, red scarf and brown jacket (day 4).

    Arthur:
    -Blue shirt and brown leather vest (day 1).
    -Red shirt (day 2).
    -Red shirt (day 3).
    -Red padded shirt, chainmail with voiders (arm armour piece), hauberk (chest armour piece) and chestplate.
    -Red shirt.
    -Red padded shirt (day 4).
    -Red padded shirt and chainmail.
    -Red padded shirt, chainmail with voiders (arm armour piece), hauberk (chest armour piece), chestplate and helmet.
    -Red padded shirt, chainmail with voiders (arm armour piece), hauberk (chest armour piece) and chestplate.
    -Red shirt.

    Morgana:
    -Purple dress with blue overdress and green velvet cloak. Lose curly hair (day 4).

    Gwen:
    -Purple dress with purple bodice and white apron (day 2).
    -Peach dress (day 3).
    -Purple dress with purple bodice and purple cloak (day 4).
    -Purple dress with purple bodice and white apron.

    Uther:
    -Blue shirt and blue padded shirt (day 3).
    -Blue shirt, blue padded shirt and long black coat (day 4).
    -Blue shirt, blue padded shirt and long black coat with Camelot cloak and crown #2.

    Gaius:
    -Blue robe (day 1).
    -Blue robe (day 2).
    -Maroon robe with brown sleeveless coat on top (day 3).
    -Maroon robe with brown sleeveless coat on top (day 4).

    WitchyWeasel88 wrote:

    Maybe brawling in bars isn't bright
    But a melee is MUCH safer, right?
    Not when thugs have big jewels
    And their swords break the rules
    But this won't beat Gwaine in a fight.

    Edited on 07/16/2011 5:18am
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    dpebbleson

    [2]Jul 10, 2011
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    No Smirks of Doom here - apropos your comment in the other episode thread, Trish, if Morgana was taking some rest with only one smirk, here she's definitely sleeping!

    And no premonitory dreams either.

    So this is the episode which was so reminiscent of "Lancelot", right? And then you see how with the same basic plot and obstacles you get two different 'feels', as it were, just by using a different actor playing a different character with a different sensibility.
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    boom-moo

    [3]Jul 10, 2011
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    Thanks DaNko

    Morgana's premonitory dreams:
    -None.

    Morgana's smirks of doom:
    -None.

    And my bit for now:

    Episode 3x04 magic and spells:
    -Merlin makes a bench levitate and throws it against two thugs (using a spell).
    -Merlin makes some plates levitate and throws them against some thugs (using his mind).
    -Cylferth enchants the magical crystals (using a spell).
    -Dagr and Ebor use the crystals' magic to impersonate Sir Oswald and Sir Ethan.
    -Merlin sees Dagr's face in Dagr/Sir Oswald's crystal.
    -Merlin tears Dagr's saddle girth broken (using his mind).
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    WitchyWeasel88

    [4]Jul 15, 2011
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    Maybe brawling in bars isn't bright
    But a melee is MUCH safer, right?
    Not when thugs have big jewels
    And their swords break the rules
    But this won't beat Gwaine in a fight.

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    boom-moo

    [5]Jul 15, 2011
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    Awesome WW

    I think this one is funny:

    What Uther says about magic:
    -Sorcery!

    Fashion:

    Merlin:
    -Blue shirt with red scarf and brown jacket (day 1).
    -Blue shirt with blue scarf and maroon jacket (day 2).
    -Red shirt with blue scarf and brown jacket (day 3).
    -Red shirt with blue scarf.
    -Red shirt with blue scarf and brown jacket.
    -Blue shirt, red scarf and brown jacket (day 4).

    Arthur:
    -Blue shirt and brown leather vest (day 1).
    -Red shirt (day 2).
    -Red shirt (day 3).
    -Red padded shirt, chainmail with voiders (arm armour piece), hauberk (chest armour piece) and chestplate.
    -Red shirt.
    -Red padded shirt (day 4).
    -Red padded shirt and chainmail.
    -Red padded shirt, chainmail with voiders (arm armour piece), hauberk (chest armour piece), chestplate and helmet.
    -Red padded shirt, chainmail with voiders (arm armour piece), hauberk (chest armour piece) and chestplate.
    -Red shirt.

    Morgana:
    -Purple dress with blue overdress and green velvet cloak. Lose curly hair (day 4).

    Gwen:
    -Purple dress with purple bodice and white apron (day 2).
    -Peach dress (day 3).
    -Purple dress with purple bodice and purple cloak (day 4).
    -Purple dress with purple bodice and white apron.

    Uther:
    -Blue shirt and blue padded shirt (day 3).
    -Blue shirt, blue padded shirt and long black coat (day 4).
    -Blue shirt, blue padded shirt and long black coat with Camelot cloak and crown #2.

    Gaius:
    -Blue robe (day 1).
    -Blue robe (day 2).
    -Maroon robe with brown sleeveless coat on top (day 3).
    -Maroon robe with brown sleeveless coat on top (day 4).
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    dpebbleson

    [6]Jul 15, 2011
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    WitchyWeasel88 wrote:

    Maybe brawling in bars isn't bright
    But a melee is MUCH safer, right?
    Not when thugs have big jewels
    And their swords break the rules
    But this won't beat Gwaine in a fight.



    Lmao about the jewels!
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    boom-moo

    [7]Jul 15, 2011
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    Lol DaNko!

    Arthur's attributes to becoming the great king of legend:
    -Arthur helps a barmaid in distress.
    -Arthur speaks up for 'commoner' Gwaine when accused of attacking a knight who demanded his execution. -Arthur tells Gwaine that his father is wrong in his decision to banish him from Camelot.

    'I have faith Arthur will become a great king' statements:
    -Merlin tells Gwaine that Arthur's not like Uther.
    -Gwen tells Gwaine that Arthur will try and repay the fact that Gwaine saved his life. She adds that Arthur is not like Uther, that he is fair, loyal and that he'll be a great king.
    -Gwaine reckons that Arthur stood up for him and that he is a noble man.
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    dpebbleson

    [8]Jul 15, 2011
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    boom-moo wrote:
    Lol DaNko!



    And their swords break the rules
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    boom-moo

    [9]Jul 15, 2011
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    Tsk, tsk... Call me prude but I hadn't read it in that way at all. Oh my.

    Arthur is knocked unconscious or prevented from knowing about Merlin's magic:
    -He is busy fighting (first at the tavern, then during the melee) when Merlin uses his magic to help him.
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    dpebbleson

    [10]Jul 15, 2011
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    boom-moo wrote:
    Tsk, tsk... Call me prude but I hadn't read it in that way at all. Oh my.


    That's because you're not a pervert like myself
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    boom-moo

    [11]Jul 15, 2011
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    No twin entanglement!

    Arthur and Gwen moments:
    -It is obvious for Gwaine that Gwen has feelings for Arthur when she praises him as someone opposed to Uther and who will make a great king one day.
    -Arthur is jealous when he realizes that Gwaine and Gwen are acquainted.
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    WitchyWeasel88

    [12]Jul 15, 2011
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    *whistles innocently* Innocent

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    dpebbleson

    [13]Jul 15, 2011
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    boom-moo wrote:
    No twin entanglement! Arthur and Gwen moments: -It is obvious for Gwaine that Gwen has feelings for Arthur when she praises him as someone opposed to Uther and who will make a great king one day. -Arthur is jealous when he realizes that Gwaine and Gwen are acquainted.


    I find it amusing how you keep up the chat and post the list specifics Yup, no twin entanglement, weird, I know... Blame Canada!



    WitchyWeasel88 wrote:


    *whistles innocently*


    Hehehehe, see, Essie, maybe I am not such a pervert after all...

    Edited on 07/15/2011 11:48am
    Edited 2 total times.
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    boom-moo

    [14]Jul 15, 2011
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    dpebbleson wrote:
    I find it amusing how you keep up the chat and post the list specifics
    Gotta stay on topic *hums 'Blame Canada' as well'

    WitchyWeasel88 wrote:

    *whistles innocently*

    Aha! Seems like I'm a prude after all Lol

    Potions made by Gaius:
    -None.

    Gaius's smacks:
    -None.
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    ACDiNosey

    [15]Jul 15, 2011
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    I'll need to check for others of notice, but there's one migthy Gwaine chestporn in this one... And the fake knight's chestporn too.


    RIP: The two nice (real) knights and the two imposters... I'm rubbish with names, Esther, please fill in the blanks

    Edited on 07/15/2011 1:13pm
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    boom-moo

    [16]Jul 15, 2011
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    Thanks hun

    Episode 3x04 RIP list:
    -Cylferth, killed by Dagr.
    -Sir Oswald, killed by Dagr.
    -Sir Ethan, killed by Ebor.
    -Sir Oswald and Sir Ethan's servant killed by Dagr.
    -Gwaine kills Dagr/Sir Oswald and Ebor/Sir Ethan in the melee.

    Chestporns/Bodyporns:
    -Gwaine's chestporn.
    -Sir Oswald's chestporn.
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    pcdsa

    [17]Jul 17, 2011
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    I prefer this episode to Lancelot even with the similar themes because Gwaine is much more lively.


    Merlin called Arthur: simple


    (Just noticed it is already on the master list!)

    Edited on 07/17/2011 3:59am
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    boom-moo

    [18]Jul 17, 2011
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    pcdsa wrote:

    Merlin called Arthur: simple


    (Just noticed it is already on the master list!)

    Sorry hun. I fill in all the categories left when we move to a new rewatch.
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    pcdsa

    [19]Jul 19, 2011
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    That's ok. I never noticed before so it's good to know
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    illegalferret

    [20]Jul 22, 2011
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    Like pcdsa said this episode is a lot like Lancelot, but like pcdsa i prefer this episode Gwaine is just a better character in my opinion, Lancelot is too serious and there's underlying feeling that Lancelot is going to cause trouble and run off with Guinevere whereas Gwaine is just fun! He just makes me smile everytime i see him on screen


    I like how in this episode, it's not magic (and Merlin) who saves the day it's Gwaine on his own accord, it makes a nice change. I love how Guinevere brushes off Gwaine's advances and the final scene between Arthur and Merlin is a classic!

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