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Rewatching Merlin Week 26 - Episode 2x13 The Last Dragonlord

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    pcdsa

    [1]Jun 26, 2010
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    Seeing as we had a 9 long month hiatus ahead, rewatching Merlin seemed like a great idea to deal with the withdrawal. Everyone is most welcome to join and leave their comments on the episode that is currently being rewatched. I think it is interesting how perspectives change once the show has progressed and we've gotten the chance to know the characters better. It is also funny to realize how we are able to catch up on new things when we watch the episodes over again.



    People who found interesting to put their views in common so far are:


    Episode Rewatching Thread wrote:
    boom-moo.
    illegalferret.
    ericsprau.
    merlinrules09.
    dpebbleson.
    TheCloser4eva.


    Episodes Rewatched so far wrote:
    Week 1. 1x01 The Dragon's Call (boom-moo).
    Week 2. 1x11 The Labyrinth of Gedref (illegalferret).
    Week 3. 1x09 Excalibur (dpebbleson).
    Week 4. 1x10 The Moment of Truth (ericsprau).
    Week 5. 2X10 Sweet Dreams (TheCloser4eva).
    Week 6. 1x13 Le Morte D'Arthur (boom-moo) .
    Week 7. 2x07 The Curse of Cornelius Sigan (ericsprau).
    Week 8. 1x04 The Poisoned Chalice (illegalferret).
    Week 9. 2x08 The Sins of the Father (dpebbleson).
    Week 10. 1x08 The Beginning of the End (boom-moo).
    Week 11. 1x12 To Kill the King (illegalferret).
    Week 12. 2x09 The Lady of the Lake (ericsprau).
    Week 13. 1X06 A Remedy to Cure All Ills (dpebbleson).
    Week 14. 2x03 The Nightmare Begins (merlinrules09).
    Week 15. 1x07 The Gates of Avalon (TheCloser4eva).
    Week 16. 2x02 The Once and Future Queen (boom-moo).
    Week 17. 2x12 The Fires of Idirsholas (ericsprau).
    Week 18. 2x07 The Witchfinder (illegalferret).
    Week 19. 1x02 Valiant (dpebbleson).
    Week 20. 2x06 Beauty and the Beast Part II (pcdsa).
    Week 21. 1x03 The Mark of Nimueh (boom-moo).
    Week 22. 2x04 Lancelot and Guinevere (illegalferret).
    Week 23. 2x05 Beauty and the Beast Part 1 (ericsprau).
    Week 24. 2x11 The Witch's Quickening (dpebbleson).
    Week 25. 1x05 Lancelot (merlinrules09)



    Rules are as follows:

    1. We got started on the first Saturday of 2010 and a new thread with a new episode choice will be open every Saturday. We are following the order in the list above to open threads and we are selecting the episodes in a random order, so all 26 episodes of both series are up to be picked anytime.

    2. Everyone should copy and paste the information in this entry (Introduction and Rules) when opening a new thread. Make sure to add the episode of your choice in the list above. Keeping track of the turns and our progress will be useful when we have rewatched a bunch of episodes already and having the rules at hand will be useful for those who join us half way through.

    3. Agreed that we all sometimes just don't have the time or the inclination to leave comments, we'd like to make clear that it's not compulsory to rewatch and/or comment on every single episode.

    4. Anyone is most welcome to join at any time. The Moderator (boom-moo) will make sure to add new members to the list so they have their chance to choose an episode.

    5. If you don't own the DVDs or the episodes, don't let that stop you from joining. Feel free to pm boom-moo so she can give you a link to a site where to watch them online

    6. Should anyone have any doubt, do not hesitate to pm boom-moo.



    This week, we are rewatching Series 2 Episode 13 The Last Dragonlord



    The Great Dragon is finally free. Full of rage, he attacks Camelot with pitiless intensity. The castle is crumbling and Arthur's men cannot hold out much longer but only a Dragonlord can kill a dragon and Uther wiped them all out years ago. Or did he? Gaius admits one such man could still be alive and in hiding.


    The last Dragonlord is the key to Merlin's own past as well as the future of Camelot, but will Arthur and Merlin find Balinor in time to save the kingdom?

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    dpebbleson

    [2]Jun 26, 2010
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    Heh, it seems like yesterday we embarked on our re-watching adventure. Now we are at the end.

    I'm off to re-watch the episode inmediatamente, and comment as soon as possible!
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    boom-moo

    [3]Jun 26, 2010
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    I can't believe we have come to the end of the rewatches!

    Gah, this episode. The more I watch it, the more I love it

    The opening is so intense it instantly gets you hooked: the dragon attacking Camelot for three days, Merlin feeling guilty, Arthur and his men doing their best to resist the attacks counteratacking not very successfully, the dragon trying to roast Arthur and Merlin!

    Arthur's "Guinevere!" is pretty hair rising. And aww at him risking his life for her!

    Luckily everyone was very obedient and cleared the square before the dragon yelled at Merlin and his petty magic Poor Merlin, he doesn't seem to understand a thing. I know we have discussed the dragon's motivations to attack Merlin, Arthur and kill innocent people but it is as understandable as shocking for him to attack innocents and certainly the two sides of the coin that would pay for his right to stay free.

    Very glad to see that Arthur doesn't give up On Gwen's love despite Gwen's words at the end of 2x10. It is very cute of him to put her hand on his heart. And Gaius approves!

    Dragons are creatures of magic and wonder and hence immune to Merlin's powers. I didn't know that Merlin's magic was only effective against monsters. 49 men, 27 women and 18 women and children unaccounted for It really must hurt Merlin to hear that much feeling as guilty as he does.

    Uther always turns to Gaius when the situation is desperate, he really know how to listen to him and follow his advice when it pleases him "We need a dragonlord". "You need very well that is not an option." Aha! There's some history there, one can tell we'll know more about from Gaius.

    They are at war with Cenred already in this episode, interesting...

    Arthur standing up against Uther for Camelot is really noble and brave. Arthur knows that his duty is towards his people and it really doesn't suit him not trying every possible option, no matter how risky. Uther for once cares more about his son than about Camelot. I always comment about Uther sending his son to an almost certain death without even blinking and for once, instead of the arrogant king with a strong determination to make Camelot long-living, he is just a man afraid of losing his son. I like it

    Gaius helped balinor escape, go Gaius! He certainly knew he could become handy one day, and what do you know? He ends up pairing up with Gaius' sister. Hunith was indeed a brave woman to take Balinor in. I wonder if Balinor and Hunith knew each other before or not.

    I love the scene between Gaius and Merlin when Gaius reveals to Merlin that Balinor is his father. Colin is magnificent once again!

    And there goes Merlin, in search of his father (and not just his father, the only man able to help Uther and save Camelot even though Uther would have gladly killed him a thousand times) and the poor Merlin has to hide such a turmoil of feelings not to give himself away. I really feel for Merlin in this episode.

    Oi, Cenred peasants are really creepy. "Greetings!" Lol. Very helpful that there was not a "Hello!" back then so Arthur can travel incognito. I tend to think that he is well known as Uther's son in the neighbouring kingdoms but obviously very few have had the chance to meet him.

    Arthur and Merlin sharing a room, exciting! Hmm, more topless Arthur That is one reason why I love this scene but also I love Arthur caring about Merlin. He really wants to know what is upsetting him despite he lacks the friend to friend approach. But Arthur's "We can't be friends cause I'm a prince but let's pretend that I'm not and let's be friends cause we'd get on if I wasn't a prince" technique is not bad at all. He is honest, funny, and close enough from the distance. He has grown closer and fonder of Merlin than he wants to admit and he tries to balance a master-servant relationship with what is more than obvious the foundation of a good friendship. I'm pretty sure Merlin would have folded and shared his concerns with him not being because he obviously can't. And well, Merlin is pretty good as well and giving Arthur a reply that would shut him up for a while.

    Oh, Sir Leon taking the lead in Arthur's absence! God, the dragon is really scary trying to fry them up

    Arthur's Camelot school bag makes me giggle *wants one* And this scene, gah! I rewind once and again. The armporn is really and Merlin's face in the half light is also pretty amazing.

    Lol, I guess Merlin lifts into the horse with magic.

    I love it how Merlin can't keep his eye off Balinor the first time he meets him. And Balinor is really good hearted willing to help Merlin's friend without asking a single question.

    I like how Merlin looks away pretending he hasn't heard after Balinor says the magical words to heal Arthur.

    Merlin and Balinor testing each other is a really nice scene. Merlin wants to make sure his guts are right and Balinor has more than one reason to be suspicious of anyone approaching him. Well, seems like Balinor reads the Hello! after all He recognizes Arthur as Uther's son (which makes it even nicer for him to have healed his wound, considering that Uther might have sent his son to track Balinor down and kill him) but it puzzles me that he only seems to do it after Merlin says his name. I guess Balinor was waiting for the appropriate moment to let Merlin know he isn't fooling him (Lol at Merlin saying that Arthur is Lancelot, a knight but a nice one).

    Oh, and the dragon is called Kilgharrah, pretty fancy of a name. So Uther used Balinor to bring Kilgharrah to Camelot pretending to be willing to make peace with him then he imprisoned the dragon and tried to kill Balinor. So very Uther No doubt Balinor understands how Kilgharrah feels and why he is acting with revenge. He is also the last of his kind (that he knows of) and has been forced to live in a cave, as captive as Kilgharrah but without the need for chains. So sad

    "Let Camelot fall. Let Uther die." Again, poor Merlin, that is certainly not the answer he expected. He is so conflicted after having heard both sides of the story.

    Lol at Arthur's squeaky voice when he comes out of the cave.

    "What kind of a man is he?" "I thought he'd be something more." Aww Merlin is so heartbroken

    The CGI on the castle is amazing, it really looks like it's about to tumble down. It is easier to side with Merlin than with Balinor once we see all those people running around despite the extenuation of 3 days of battle trying to put up fires and slowly losing their hope. I don't think this scene is included right after the "I thought he'd be something more" one by chance because I feel really sympathetic of Balinor from minute one and totally understand with his reasons. As per usual it is not a matter of black or white. Uther certainly doesn't deserve Balinor's pity let alone his help, but the people of Camelot don't deserve either to bear the consequences of Uther's doings.

    "Wherever she is she'll be alright." Gauis of all people knows that Morgause won't harm Morgana. However, Gwen doesn't seem concerned about Morgana to me, it is pretty clear she has Arthur in mind. But of course Gaius wouldn't be that upfront to go and ask her about it. Gwen (not that) subtly spills the beans though. "Never underestimate the power of love, I've seen it change many things." Aww

    Balinor is not afraid of speaking lowly of Uther to Arthur, go Balinor! Arthur doesn't react to it as I was expecting, I guess he is thankful because Balinor has healed him so he just discards counting on his help and moves on. "You are not better than him [Uther]" "I was hoping you'd be like him [Gaius]" Merlin is a bit harsh there but he clicks the right buttons. Gaius' reference slaps Balinor right in his conscience.

    "I've got to quite like you. You are not as big a fool as you look." "You are not as arrogant as you sound." I love this friendship bits we get each time Arthur and Merlin go out on a trip.

    "There are some in Camelot who risked their lives for me." Balinor does have a conscience and is willing to repay the debt. Arthur, as oblivious to what's going on as always ( ) promises him a reward. I hate it that they make Arthur look so dumb. He certainly can put two and two together: he was present both when Gaius and Uther had the conversation about the dragonlords and also when Merlin tells Balinor about Gaius. But hey.

    "We would have been... happy" Aww Merlin Growing without a father must have been hard for him and one can tell he's dreamed of having a family more than once. Hunith's life in Ealdor was pretty humble as well, so you can tell he would have traded that poor home for Balinor's cave any time in exchange of a family feeling. But Balinor did the right thing securing the life of the woman he loved, and Hunith did the right thing not looking for him for Merlin's sake. Sad story

    Aww at Merlin again wanting to take Balinor to Ealdor once they are done in Camelot. Wouldn't that have been amazing?

    And what do you know? After begging the dragon for help once and again and doing your best to decipher his riddles you turn out being a dragonlord. Life is funny like that.

    "Good night son." "Sleep well, father" Aww I'm sorry at my constant "poor Merlin" and "aww Merlin" but Colin is terrific in this episode (well, isn't he always?). It truly lights and warms his heart to be called a son and call someone a father. Omg, the carved little dragon is such a cute present! I've no doubt Merlin will hold on to it for all his life. And gah, Balinor lying his life for Merlin's and dying in his arms. How sad and touchy is it? Add to that Merlin having to hide his feelings from Arthur. Hello? He's just lost his just found father. Can it be any worse timing, worse string of events, worse luck?

    I love that Merlin's angry yell throwing Cenred's men up in the air, it is just like Mordred's.

    "Sorry father, I've failed you. The last dragonlord is dead." Ha! He's not. Love Gaius and Merlin's reaction. Gaius instantly concerned about Merlin, Merlin once again fighting back his tears.

    "There were many years where I might have wished for that news." Have you ever heard of karma, Uther? I instantly think of Merlin when I hear that sentence though. I mean, how much must it hurt? Merlin knows Uther would have gladly killed his father, he succeeded in making his parents unhappy, his childhood unhappy and so many more people orphans, widows and widowers. Still, he gets over all those feelings just like Balinor did and decides to do the right thing for Arthur and for countless innocent others *hearts Merlin*

    "Yes sire!" Arthur knows Merlin is being serious, that he really cares for him and loves him as a good friend but again he can't bring himself to speak that openly to Merlin, even though it is pretty clear that those feelings are reciprocated. He uses humour to make up for his inability (both because he isn't used to it and because he wouldn't permit himself) to speak to Merlin like an equal, friend to friend. But both know better, both are aware of all that's being told with words and without them.

    "No man is worth your tears." I have a bit of trouble with this. Can anyone tell me what you make of this sentence? I mean, I understand Arthur's point in seeing Merlin a bit as a pansy because he cried for Balinor, whom they have just met (and of course not knowing of the link between Merlin and Balinor) but there are certainly men who are are worth one's tears. Is it that Arthur wouldn't let himself cry over anyone because of the way he's been brought up, because it'd speak less of one's knighthood? That's the only interpretation I get. That public tears are a no no and just reserved for one's intimacy.

    "Do you know how many times I've had to save your royal backside?" "At least you've got your sense of humor back." Lol, if only Arthur would know. "I know it's hard for you to tell how I feel" There goes Merling again, being his cute self and honest friend to Arthur. And Arthur once again makes a face and builds his defenses up, never allowing himself to wear his heart on his sleeve like Merlin does. But he can't deny he is very impressed and very proud of Merlin's will to take good care of Arthur's "armour", aka to fight side by side with him.

    And speaking of which, they could at least have provided Merlin with an armour

    Ok, pretty predictably Merlin and Arthur are the only ones left standing to face the dragon. I can't help but thinking how helpless Merlin must feel not daring to try anything in front of Arthur and he of course doesn't until Arthur passes again Very cheesy and convenient, but pretty much the only way to keep the reveal secret. In any case, I like to think that just like Merlin told Hunith in 1x10, if it would have come to save Arthur's life or protect his secret, then there would have been no choice to be made (although he waited a lot to consider the situation of immediate risk for Arthur's life, but hey again).

    Merlin grabs the lance so he indeed considers for a second to kill the dragon but instead he decides to show him mercy certainly recalling and understanding that after all, Kilgharrah is driven by very understandable reasons and emotions being the last of his kind just like Balinor thought to be and like Merlin is. They share a background, a pain, a deeper understanding.

    "I will not forget your clemency, I'm sure our paths will meet again." Yay, can't wait!

    "You did it." Aww Merlin. And lol at Arthur's squeaky laughter.

    Whoa at Gwen not giving a darn about being seen running to Arthur's arms Uther has very conveniently removed himself from the window seconds before, deeply relieved to see his son coming back safe and sound.

    I miss a little scene in which Arthur and Merlin care about the knights who have fallen fighting the dragon (Leon ), but I guess the episode was long enough (actually longer than usual) as it is. I hope that some of the knights make it, at least Leon.

    Merlin, will return
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    pcdsa

    [4]Jun 27, 2010
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    What a fantastic episode to finish our rewatch and another fantastic review Esther that sums everything up. I will continue as I've gone along with these reviews by concentrating on Arthur and the Great Dragon!!!

    Agree the start with all the action was great and the rest of the episode lived up to it.

    Loved:
    - Arthur extending his hand of friendship the only way he knows how, Merlin listing Arthur's character traits i.e. "Supercilious. Condescending. Patronising. Overbearing. Very overbearing."and Merlin admitting he cares about Arthur's "armour"!!!
    - The fiery dragon with his evil eyes swooping over Camelot was brilliant. I loved how surprised (eyebrows raised) and then obedient he was when Merlin spoke to him as the last dragonlord. Ecstatic that Merlin didn't kill him off as he did with Nimueh. I think partly because Balinor acknowledged they he and Kilgharrah are kin / brothers and both are the last of their kind.
    - The sweet Arwen moments and Guinevere showing her feelings.
    - The reference to the Knights of the Round Table.

    I think Arthur says "no man is worth your tears" because he doesn't want Merlin to cry if he dies. He did start with "if I die... please..." then moved on to seeing him cry over Balinor. And I say why shouldn't Merlin cry for Arthur - he has cried over everyone so far e.g. Gaius, Freya, Morgana, Balinor. why not Arthur!!!

    I wish they would provide subtitles of the translation when they speak Old English. On first watching I really wanted to know what Merlin said to Kilgharrah. (Esther did provide a link to the translation.)

    I too didn't like Arthur and Merlin not seeming to care about the fallen knights. TPTB could have had a few knights returning with them at the end which would have solved any timing constraint issues.

    Merlin will return and Sir Leon hopefully - he could be one of the knights who were knocked unconcious but not char grilled...


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    dpebbleson

    [5]Jun 27, 2010
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    This episode is among the very brilliant! Watching it I realized how the picture, the soundtrack, the acting, the story - it's very cinematic. It goes into past, explaining the mystery of Merlin's father.

    It's also very, very sad. In the S1 finale, Merlin was confronted first with the death of his friend; then possible death of his mother; then Gaius almost died.

    In S2 it was all amplified: he got in love with the girl that he almost immediately lost to death; in 'The Witchfinder' Gaius almost died; in 'The Fires of Idirsholas' he had to kill his friend - at which he failed, but in turn lost a friend.

    In this episode he meets his father only to lose him moments afterwards. In the midst of the greatest joy the greatest tragedy occurred. No wonder it was so poignant, it's like black on white - and all of a sudden also.

    I think they over-tortured him a bit in the last section of S2...

    Then there is a progression of friendship between Merlin and Arthur, which was a bit cheesy in that pub, but hey!

    As for the Dragon. Of course, I sympathize with people who got killed, but I must sympathize with him. He was kept a prisoner for nothing done for twenty years, and now that he is released, it's only natural he wants to burn down his prison.

    As always Uther is to blame... Except for the love of his son, and the fact that he is, after all, a capable statesman, I don't know if he has any positive traits.

    His face looking through the window at the Dragon hovering outside is priceless!

    About Old English: I too wish they included subtitles. They are very cool, but I recognize only some words, so it frustrates me a bit I'm gonna have to study Anglo-Saxon before the new season starts...

    Hmm, I also noticed they didn't check on knights... And they do return alone. Which means TPTB intended for these knights to be dead.

    Which would mean Sir Leon doesn't return next season. Which is a pity, since he is a solid character.

    I do hope they bring him back - at least for the female fans who seem to like him a lot...

    I also didn't like that Morgana was only mentioned. But it was Guinevere who was worried about her. I wonder how the dynamics between them will work in the following season...

    All in all, this episode was a real treat. Together with 'The Sins of the Father' and 'The Labyrinth of Gedref' it forms a holy triumvirate of the best of the best that 'Merlin' can offer!
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    boom-moo

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    pcdsa wrote:
    I loved how surprised (eyebrows raised) and then obedient he was when Merlin spoke to him as the last dragonlord. Ecstatic that Merlin didn't kill him off as he did with Nimueh. I think partly because Balinor acknowledged they he and Kilgharrah are kin / brothers and both are the last of their kind.
    Call me silly but I always think of a dragonlord like someone who lords over the dragon, who has the skills to tame them and make them bend to his will. I never thought that killing Kilgharrah off was an option, and hence I was pretty puzzled when Balinor tells Merlin that a dragon's heart is in the right side. I only realized about it when Merlin takes the lance in his hand so I was as well really happy that he let him go. Not being for the dragon, certainly Arthur and most likely Merlin would have been dead by now. And both Balinor and Kilgharrah shared a life of misery and confinement for which they aren't to blame, and now Merlin is Kigharrah's kin so yeah, Merlin's decision makes a lot of sense

    pcdsa wrote:
    The reference to the Knights of the Round Table.
    I forgot to mention how much I like Arthur's speech, he is really good at addressing people. Also funny thing is that every knight in the room joins in, and that they are more than a dozen but hey

    pcdsa wrote:
    I think Arthur says "no man is worth your tears" because he doesn't want Merlin to cry if he dies. He did start with "if I die... please..." then moved on to seeing him cry over Balinor. And I say why shouldn't Merlin cry for Arthur - he has cried over everyone so far e.g. Gaius, Freya, Morgana, Balinor. why not Arthur!
    Yeah, I take it he doesn't want Merlin cry for him because he knows Merlin would and because probably Arthur himself would (while being on his own though) if Merlin would have died. What puzzles me is the bit about him saying that to everyone of his knights. I don't think a man is less brave, less knight, less of a man if he cries over a fallen friend. It kind of makes sense coming from Arthur, it fits the idea Arthur wants others to have of himself.

    dpebbleson wrote:
    Then there is a progression of friendship between Merlin and Arthur, which was a bit cheesy in that pub, but hey!
    I liked it, I like Arthur's inability to show his feelings better and his struggle to be a friend without showing it much, still taking his distance as a way to protect himself and his feelings. It was very Arthur like. I hope there is no reset in season 3, I really love Arthur and Merlin in this episode as they've reached a very interesting point in their relationship.

    dpebbleson wrote:
    As always Uther is to blame... Except for the love of his son, and the fact that he is, after all, a capable statesman, I don't know if he has any positive traits.
    I agree. Hard to find any others.

    dpebbleson wrote:
    Hmm, I also noticed they didn't check on knights... And they do return alone. Which means TPTB intended for these knights to be dead. Which would mean Sir Leon doesn't return next season. Which is a pity, since he is a solid character. I do hope they bring him back - at least for the female fans who seem to like him a lot...
    *nods* I like Leon. I love it how he takes the lead when Arthur is away and how brave and scared he looks at the same time

    dpebbleson wrote:
    I also didn't like that Morgana was only mentioned. But it was Guinevere who was worried about her. I wonder how the dynamics between them will work in the following season.
    I don't think there was room for much else, the episode is really packed as it is. And I don't see Gwen that worried about Morgana. To me she was clearly thinking of Arthur's wellbeing (she doesn't even mention Merlin, even though both have left together) and simply acknowledges Gaius' remark about Morgana with a nod a forced smirk as if saying 'yeah well, I'm worried about her too' but it wasn't front and center in Gwen's mind at that moment. I think everyone was worried about her, obviously, but it was a matter of first thing first. Gaius is very smart approaching Gwen asking about Morgana though (after witnessing the little Arthur/Gwen moment at the beginning of the episode, I bet he knows Gwen is thinking of Arthur).
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    pcdsa

    [7]Jun 28, 2010
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    dpebbleson wrote:
    All in all, this episode was a real treat. Together with 'The Sins of the Father' and 'The Labyrinth of Gedref' it forms a holy triumvirate of the best of the best that 'Merlin' can offer!


    Looked up meaning of triumvirate and so I want to add "The Fires of Idirsholas" to make them form a quadrumvirate!


    boom-moo wrote:
    I think everyone was worried about her, obviously, but it was a matter of first thing first.


    I agree. I don't see Guinevere not caring about Morgana but with the clear and present danger her concerns were for the here and now.



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    dpebbleson

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    pcdsa wrote:


    dpebbleson wrote:
    All in all, this episode was a real treat. Together with 'The Sins of the Father' and 'The Labyrinth of Gedref' it forms a holy triumvirate of the best of the best that 'Merlin' can offer!


    Looked up meaning of triumvirate and so I want to add "The Fires of Idirsholas" to make them form a quadrumvirate!


    Cool! I like it! The holy quadrumvirate!!

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    boom-moo

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    pcdsa wrote:
    I wish they would provide subtitles of the translation when they speak Old English. On first watching I really wanted to know what Merlin said to Kilgharrah. (Esther did provide a link to the translation.)
    I couldn't remember what it was so I searched for it and (according David Davis, Merlin assistant script editor) here it is:

    "I command you to stop this reign of terror. You have caused enough pain and suffering to these people. You must obey me and follow my will. For I have you under my power. You shall no longer bring death and destruction to this land."
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    Aww I love this episode and i managed to rewatch with only 2 interruptionsfrom my family! As per usual you guys have covered most of the good bits already but there are still a few things i wish to say. 1. There's a nice little reference to last week's rewatch when Merlin unsuccessfully tries to pass off Arthur as Lancelot! 2. Arthur saying "greetings" when he walks into the pub makes me giggle a lot everytime i watch 3. I love all the Merlin and Arthur friendshippy bits, like in the pub and as they get ready for the fight at the end. 4. Some one really needs to teach Merlin how to use a sword he can't keep riding in to battles/fights without the knowledge to defend himself without magic. 5. I really think that Gaius is the only thing now that is preventing Merlin from revealing his secret to Arthur, i'mconvinced that if Gauis hadn't warned Merlin off from telling Arthur that Balinor was his father he would have said something!

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    boom-moo

    [11]Jun 29, 2010
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    Sarah, please remove the spoilers from your previous post, they are not allowed in here!

    illegalferret wrote:
    Some one really needs to teach Merlin how to use a sword he can't keep riding in to battles/fights without the knowledge to defend himself without magic.
    Indeed! The don't even provide him with proper gear!

    illegalferret wrote:
    I really think that Gaius is the only thing now that is preventing Merlin from revealing his secret to Arthur, i'mconvinced that if Gauis hadn't warned Merlin off from telling Arthur that Balinor was his father he would have said something!
    Hmm... I don't know. I don't think Merlin is ready. I think he only would have done it if would have come to saving Arthur's life or revealing his secret, just like he explained in Ealdor (not that Arthur's life wasn't at risk right before he received the swipe from the dragon but hey).
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    pcdsa

    [12]Jun 29, 2010
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    illegalferret wrote:
    I really think that Gaius is the only thing now that is preventing Merlin from revealing his secret to Arthur, i'mconvinced that if Gauis hadn't warned Merlin off from telling Arthur that Balinor was his father he would have said something!


    I too was unhappy Gaius said this. He was just reinforcing to Merlin not to trust Arthur! I too am not sure Merlin would have said anything to Arthur otherwise.

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    boom-moo

    [13]Jun 29, 2010
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    It's particularly unfortunate since Gaius says: "Merlin, whatever happens you must not let Arthur know who this man is. Uther would view the son of a Dragonlord with the deepest suspicion."

    Gaius neither trusts Uther nor Arthur, and I think that's a bit unfair towards Arthur.
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    pcdsa

    [14]Jun 30, 2010
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    I remember reading this on youtube and it made me laugh.


    Arthur ends up with the girl and Merlin ends up with the old man.


    Poor Merlin...

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    boom-moo

    [15]Jun 30, 2010
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    Lol. Both seasons so far have ended with a Gaius-Merlin slow-mo (I think 1x13 had slow mo too), anyone noticed?
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    [16]Jul 1, 2010
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    Where was the slow-mo?


    Also, technically, Season 1 didn't end with a Merlin-Gaius moment. There were two scenes after it: the Great Dragon roaring and Morgana waking up from a nightmare.


    Also, I don't see how it issignificant since most episodes end up with a Merlin-Gaius moment.

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    pcdsa

    [17]Jul 1, 2010
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    I too don't remember the slow-mo in the series 1 finale. And true most episodes end with Merlin-Gaius. I just found the comparison funny.

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    boom-moo

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    You guys are right, I just checked and there is no slow mo in the Gaius Merlin last scene in 1x13. And it is not significant at all, it is just a fact I thought I was recalling right and that I made out of pcdsa funsy about Merlin ending up with the old man.
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    ericsprau

    [19]Jul 6, 2010
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    Sorry for the absence recently. Turmoil on the home front. I watched this as it aired on SyFy last Friday, knowing it was coming. I lost my comments when my computer shut itself down due to overheating though. V_V

    So are we going to start re-re-watching episodes now, or what is the plan?
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    boom-moo

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    ericsprau wrote:
    Sorry for the absence recently. Turmoil on the home front. I watched this as it aired on SyFy last Friday, knowing it was coming. I lost my comments when my computer shut itself down due to overheating though.
    I've read that since 2x13 is longer than the rest of the episodes, the scene between Arthur and Merlin at the end when Merlin tells Arthur he is gonna join him fighting the dragon (the 'I care about that armour' one) was cut off.

    If you could decide, which scene would you guys have cut off?

    ericsprau wrote:
    So are we going to start re-re-watching episodes now, or what is the plan?
    Please check post #515 in 'United Fans of Merlin' thread. If you agree with the rules, I'll add you
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