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Official Discussion Thread: Mr. Monk Fights City Hall (possible spoilers)

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    Gislef

    [1]Feb 18, 2009
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    Please direct all general and specific discussion of the 2/20/09 season finale, "Mr. Monk Fights City Hall", to this thread.

    Enjoy!
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    rubencsj_2005

    [2]Feb 20, 2009
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    "You'll never guess what he finds!"

    That was the tagline for the commercials announcing this episode.... What did he find? nothing?. We didn't get anything new regarding Trudy's death besides the fact that she was killed in front of B-5 parking spot...and I'm not even sure that clue fits.

    Anyways as for the episode itself, it was average, better than others of this half season. Kinda funny, but not what I expected. The episodes have really been hit or miss this season. too bad cause I love this show and the characters. I was hoping they'd leave some sort of cliffhanger for the last season. At least Trudy got a memorial park.

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    kravitzfan12

    [3]Feb 20, 2009
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    I thought this was a great episode. It was nice that they ended the season with a somewhat Trudy-centered case.

    I thought the murders were interesting enough - definitely on par with the rest of the season.

    I was surprised at how Harold responded to the situation. I know that they are supposed to be arch-enemies, but I never thought that he would take pleasure in tearing down something that was so important to Monk. I know they are always at each others throats, but I didn't think that he would behave that way in any situation pertaining to Trudy.

    Overall, a great way to end the season. Very emotional with a touching way to end the episode. Unfortunately, the next season finale will be the last season finale - always makes me sad to think about!
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    rubencsj_2005

    [4]Feb 20, 2009
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    I was worried for a sec that Harold came up in the episode, maybe he'd suffer a similar fate as Kevin. xD

    It was a better than the last episodes, but why did he threw her with his tie still on her? I dunno, for me it wasn't that well constructed on the mystery side. On the comedy and emotional side it was better. I was expecting a bit more of this.

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    rubencsj_2005

    [5]Feb 20, 2009
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    oh and another thing....is it pure coincidence we were reminded TWICE that Monk was buried alive once? :/

    (first in Mr. Monk and the Magician and now Mr. Monk fights city hall)

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    BTRAV

    [6]Feb 20, 2009
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    I would be perfectly fine with Harold dying. I liked him better when he was hypnotized. Now he's back and more of a jerk than ever. This episode was kind of a let-down, but if there really wasn't any clues in that parking lot then it should be fine. I was just hoping for more of a lead on Trudy's case as I'm sure we all were. Monk was so close too if only he hadn't taken it too far and pissed off Maria (who is, shall we say, dumb if not excruciatingly difficult, but he didn't need to bring that up in his "here's what happened" spiel). *insert footage of New Haven Colisseum implosion*
    Edited on 02/20/2009 8:26pm
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    qertvbnpop

    [7]Feb 20, 2009
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    yea, i noticed he mentioned being buried alive again too.

    but this was a really funny monk episode. calling that assisstant an idiot right to her face, monk saying his therapist was dr. door, the scene at the hotdog place, it was all pretty funny. added with a good plot, i thought it was a great episode.

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    gmx13

    [8]Feb 21, 2009
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    I noticed that he kept mentioning the fact that he was buried alive for the second straight week. I also have been noticing that for the past handful of episodes, Monk has actually been happy, smiling and even celebrating. Perhaps he is slowly changing for the better as the series ends?
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    EmpeorWing

    [9]Feb 21, 2009
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    who wanted to punch harold in face because I want Too!
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    kravitzfan12

    [10]Feb 21, 2009
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    EmpeorWing wrote:
    who wanted to punch harold in face because I want Too!
    I agree! Like I said before, I never thought that he would be so insensative towards Monk in anything regarding Trudy's murder. It's one thing to be resentful about him having a great new therapist, but he knows just how important Trudy is to him, yet he behaves like he gets pleasure out of Monk's misery and only wants to make it worse. I never thought that they would make him THAT cruel...
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    E_Queen

    [11]Feb 21, 2009
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    I would take Harold dying over Kevin any day! But then again Monk wouldn't have work so hard to solve Harolds murder lol.
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    MizzGMC23

    [12]Feb 21, 2009
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    E_Queen wrote:
    I would take Harold dying over Kevin any day! But then again Monk wouldn't have work so hard to solve Harolds murder lol.
    OO me too. No matter how talkative Kevin was Harold is just horrid. How could he treat Trudy's memory so carelessly? Especially as we are left to assume that the City Council also agreed on the name of the park. Personally I believe Trudy would have loved the idea of a kid's playground being named after her, especially as it has been said she was talking about having kids with Adrian. That final scene was beautiful and brought tears to my eyes - also gave me hiccups which I can't seem to get rid of

    As I've already said in my review, considering there was nothing really to wrap up in this season I think that as a finale goes it was good. Everyone still alive was there, there were 3 linked murders, and the hot dog czar scenes put me off vendor eating for life. Randy saw what everyone else saw so how could he stomach that hotdog? It wasn't only Adrian who felt disgusted by that, you could see Natalie and the Captain looking on in disbelief at Disher, especially when he didn't get the allusion to Eileen Hill becoming "meat" .

    I loved Adrian trying to charm Maria too, we've never seen him do that before - even when there was a woman he thought he could go on a date with (the one who reminded him of Trudy). Although it could have been made into a comical scene it came across as pure charm, so I agree with gmx13 that maybe we are seeing Monk evolve into becoming a more functioning human being again. I'm really looking forward to the next season now, although it will be bitter sweet knowing it's the final outing.

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    Rtkat3

    [13]Feb 21, 2009
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    The final season is debuting in July. Maybe the person responsible for Trudy's death will be caught by then.
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    pgsuperfan

    [14]Feb 21, 2009
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    Loved the scene with hot dog vendor and was a nice touch naming the playground after Trudy
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    BTRAV

    [15]Feb 22, 2009
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    Ha ha, becoming "meat." That made me think of Sweeney Todd. And Randy still kept eating it. Maria ate one too. Ew.
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    Carycomic

    [16]Feb 22, 2009
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    The promos had me thinking along two lines. Either Adrian would find new evidence as to the identity of "the Judge" (because I seriously expected a court hearing on the construction/demolition project). Or, Trudy would somehow turn up alive, as a Federally protected witness (which would have made for a great crossover with IN PLAIN SIGHT)!

    But, even though I was wrong on both counts, I still liked the poignant little plot-twist at the end. Considering how frequently child-like Monk's OCD renders him, I'm very sure Trudy would have made a great mother, someday. So, it seems only fitting that the future playground gets named after her.

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    haldrey

    [17]Feb 23, 2009
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    I liked this episode a lot but after so many 'superb' Monk show has treated us with, this one being a season finale I expected more of it.
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    chipee

    [18]Feb 23, 2009
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    While maybe it wasn't a great "Monk" episode (with big themes, character development and elucidation, etc), it is one of the funniest "Monk" eps of all time. Every time I watch the ep, I see some great humor that I had missed before, such as:

    (1) Monk, who is chained in the garage and is chanting the old radical protest "Hell no, we won't go," implores Natalie to join in the chant because if Monk were chanting alone, the "we" part "wouldn't make any sense."

    (2) Harold trying to find the name of Monk's therapist: Natalie spits out her drink when Harold mentions the alarm and "Dr. Bell."

    (3) Natalie corrects the receptionist that the day is not Friday, and the receptionist replies "Who told you that?"

    (4) Monk, exasperated by the receptionist, asks if there is someone else he can talk to, and the receptionist points to Natalie.

    (5) the whole hot dog warehouse scene was a riot -- hiding the missing councilwoman in the hot dogs while Randy is eating one, the government forced them to say meat in quotations ("meat"), doctors being unable to figure out the cause of the hot dog czar's frequent chest pains, etc.

    (6) Monk unable to get past putting up even one of 1000 posters because the poster and/or the pole are uneven.

    (7) Dr. Bell mentions that an assistant could vote for the missing councilwoman. Monk, amazed, stands up. Dr. Bell tells Monk to sit down. Monk says "I think you are a genius." Dr. Bell says, "OK, you can stand."

    (8 ) Monk romancing the receptionist to get her vote: waving the flowers about and sitting on her desk, hesitating to pay $3 for her hot dog, meeting the vendor again and saying "it's a pleasure to see you again" making quotations marks with his fingers, Monk promising not to tell the receptionist's child (20 years later) that she ate hot dogs during pregnancy, Monk asserting that the kids don't need a playground -- they could use their imagination and play in the garage, and best of all: the receptionist complains that the councilwoman should have warned her upon hiring her that the councilwoman would likely soon disappear.

    (9) the love nest, cheerleader and French maid costumes/roommates , and the drawer.

    (10) Monk is elated when the journal is found. He says "this is all I need." Stottlemeyer and Randy think he solved the case, but Monk only thinks of using it to convince the receptionist to vote his way.

    (11) Harold's prayer that the murder of the councilwoman be personal or random, not a vendetta against the city council.

    (12) Monk's lengthy tantrum calling the woman a dolt who was only hired for her "pee," and the receptionist then changing her vote.

    (13) Harold finally finding the name of Monk's therapist, Dr. Bell -- "see you in the waiting room."

    A much better than average episode. You certainly can't say they "jumped the shark" or are coasting to the end of the series.
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    im52xmax

    [19]Feb 25, 2009
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    any thoughts about what was inside that drawer that Natalie didn't want mr. Monk to ever open?
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    chipee

    [20]Feb 25, 2009
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    There is no doubt but they are sex toys (or some other pornography) in the drawer, especially because the apartment was a love nest with the maid and cheerleader outfits. That is what everyone bothering to comment on these message boards says too. Of course, I could be wrong, but ......
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