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    sps23

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    If the Akatsuki are the most powerful ninja's, then someone in there.

    Everyone in the show has been defeated at one point or another. I'd say:

    TOBI.

    Mmmhmm...

    Although I'm sure everyone in Naruto can be defeated by someone (comically or not)

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    ecao123

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    Um, to zoxir, i'm not quoting since it's so long, but here goes:

    He didn't beat neji because Neji was bragging, Neji did put up all his fight, but in the end, he was exhausted, and Naruto still had energy.

    Kakuzu definitely tried his hardest to stop Naruto after he first saw Naruto use his fuuton rasenshuriken (albeit unsuccessfully, since he didn't hit), he went into long range mode and tried to stop Naruto, but then Naruto tricked him because Kakuzu thought the lead "naruto (there were shadow clones) was the one that would attack him with the fuuton rasenshuriken, but then it turned out that it wasn't, and then.. well, the rest is history. Kakuzu lost two of his 3 reminaining hearts and was severely crippled, anybody could have finished him off after that (meh, just stab a kunai in the last heart, don't have to showboat and stab him with raikiri). Anyways, Naruto did sort of "charge" at tobi, but he came from behind and Tobi didn't know htat he was being attacked, but Tobi so far, can't be hurt at all unless it' Deidara beating up on him lol.
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    ecao123 wrote:
    Um, to zoxir, i'm not quoting since it's so long, but here goes:

    He didn't beat neji because Neji was bragging, Neji did put up all his fight, but in the end, he was exhausted, and Naruto still had energy.

    Kakuzu definitely tried his hardest to stop Naruto after he first saw Naruto use his fuuton rasenshuriken (albeit unsuccessfully, since he didn't hit), he went into long range mode and tried to stop Naruto, but then Naruto tricked him because Kakuzu thought the lead "naruto (there were shadow clones) was the one that would attack him with the fuuton rasenshuriken, but then it turned out that it wasn't, and then.. well, the rest is history. Kakuzu lost two of his 3 reminaining hearts and was severely crippled, anybody could have finished him off after that (meh, just stab a kunai in the last heart, don't have to showboat and stab him with raikiri). Anyways, Naruto did sort of "charge" at tobi, but he came from behind and Tobi didn't know htat he was being attacked, but Tobi so far, can't be hurt at all unless it' Deidara beating up on him lol.

    how do you know tobi wasn't aware of naruto's attack?
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    zoxir86 wrote:
    ecao123 wrote:
    Um, to zoxir, i'm not quoting since it's so long, but here goes:

    He didn't beat neji because Neji was bragging, Neji did put up all his fight, but in the end, he was exhausted, and Naruto still had energy.

    Kakuzu definitely tried his hardest to stop Naruto after he first saw Naruto use his fuuton rasenshuriken (albeit unsuccessfully, since he didn't hit), he went into long range mode and tried to stop Naruto, but then Naruto tricked him because Kakuzu thought the lead "naruto (there were shadow clones) was the one that would attack him with the fuuton rasenshuriken, but then it turned out that it wasn't, and then.. well, the rest is history. Kakuzu lost two of his 3 reminaining hearts and was severely crippled, anybody could have finished him off after that (meh, just stab a kunai in the last heart, don't have to showboat and stab him with raikiri). Anyways, Naruto did sort of "charge" at tobi, but he came from behind and Tobi didn't know htat he was being attacked, but Tobi so far, can't be hurt at all unless it' Deidara beating up on him lol.

    how do you know tobi wasn't aware of naruto's attack?
    because a sharingans users blind spot is his back like chiyo said ones a pon a time ago like he tried to do to itachi albeit he was stuck in a genjutsu otherwise it would have worked
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    zoxir86 wrote:
    both of them were to busy on bragging rather than fighting. Neji on how naruto is destined to lose against a genius like him and kakuzu on how he fought the first Hokage. How can you even say naruto was calm against tobi he just charged at him without thinking how ONE single guy stood against 8. why didn't anyone else attack tobi? Not even kiba who is impulsive like naruto. the reason is simple all of them think before they act except naruto that is. The new naruto may be better than the old one but he remains a big mouth that only uses brute force


    Kakuzu only said that the First was his first opponent he ever faced. That was not bragging.
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    zoxir86 wrote:
    lavdrim wrote:
    zoxir86 wrote:
    lavdrim wrote:
    zoxir86 wrote:
    lavdrim wrote:
    jujutheking wrote:
    ecao123 wrote:
    Well, I'm betting the first hokage used a lot of wood attacks to beat Madara. My reasoning: Wood type ninjutsu can supress tailed beast chakra, and it was said that the first hokage could tame the beasts like his own pets. Jiraiya said it was possible that Madara manipulated Kyuubi (and probably other tailed beasts) to attack Konoha and such, so if the first stopped that ability using his beast chakra supressing, it would probably give him the upper hand. Anyhow, the strongest at this point with abilities that we know of is most likely to be Pein/Pain. He is six people and each person can see what each other is seeing. He also beat Hanzou, which Jiraiya, Oro, and Tsunade couldn't beat together in their primes. Behind him would have to be Itachi or Jiraiya, Itachi's early growth as a shinobi is nothing short of exceptional, being an anbu squad leader at age 13, basically being as good as kakashi at age 13. And he has the MS which has two unique abilities for which we have seen only he can use. However, Itachi stated that even with Kisame helping him, he could at best kill Jiraiya but not without dying himself. JIraiya is also a very formidable opponent in that special mode that he has (sorry, the name is slipping me). The person that has the most potential for growth is obviously naruto. His chakra is basically boundless and can't even be stopped by closing chakra points. Also, the fact that he can use shadow clones to make his training like 1000 times faster also helps. Also, he has only gone to four out of nine tails for Kyuubi's power, so he still has a lot of power left in him as a jinchiruiki (bad spelling). It is not Sasuke because the Sharingan and Cursed Seal have limits. It's that simple. Also, the Sharingan uses chakra when it is activated, and a lot of it when using advanced abilities (like Itachi when he used Tsukuyomi 2 times in a day and Ameratsu once). The cursed seal momentarily gives extra chakra and power, but afterwords, the user is completely exhausted, as shown after the sound four run into the two leaf jounin, after the battle with CS2, they had to rest. Anyways, they also have limits to theeir strength. The Sharingan can go to three tomoes (little dots around the pupils), at which point they can track enemy movements to a great extent (only easily thwarted by chakra which has a mind of it's own, like the of Naruto when he uses kyuubi), copy enemy jutsu, see chakra (well, to an extent, as well as see what chakra affinity it is), and cast genjutsu with no handsigns. It also has powers for the MS, but that is all. THere is nothing more. Sasuke has already gotten a three tomoe sharingan and can use genjutsu effectively using it as shown when he battled Itachi last chapter, and when he reversed Oro's body exchange jutsu. The cursed seal is simply more chakra, and more power, just momentarily, and when it's over, the user is completely exhausted. There are also no more levels for CS than 2, since Orochimaru was the one who "invented" it by somehow taming Juugo (sp?). So yeah, so far as we have seen, Pein/Pain is the most powerful, and Naruto has the most potential.
    LOL sasuke sharingan and new powers is limitless.LOL pein takjes orders from madara so no pein isn't the strongest.Madara stated sasuke sharingan will surpass itachi.Well if madara is the first then sasuke is 2nd.
    wat makes u think sasuke is the strongest wen naruto has the nine tails and can train 10 times faster then sasuke
    cuz naruto is a dumb ass he could not understand he could either understand how his jutsu worked let alone using it correctly. if you're talking about brute force Naruto may be stronger but Sasuke if by far a better ninja and fighter than Naruto
    have u been reading the manga lately to say that is utter stupidness
    yes I have. and you should probably give some arguments in order to call utter stupidness what I wrote or else that will make you comment stupid
    1.against neji tell how did he beat neji at the end. 2.how did he win his most reasent battle since his beaten Kakuzu his shown no other skill except that he can use strategy nearly as well as shikamaru and can use hes mind a lot betta then nearly anyone else, he figured a way to find sasuke in minutes, and the old naruto would of went at tobi without thinking, but now hes calm and using hes mind dont write please unless its something educated,and if u write about the past naruto dont bother cuz a wont argue with u on that. but this new naruto is nothing like the old one.
    both of them were to busy on bragging rather than fighting. Neji on how naruto is destined to lose against a genius like him and kakuzu on how he fought the first Hokage. How can you even say naruto was calm against tobi he just charged at him without thinking how ONE single guy stood against 8. why didn't anyone else attack tobi? Not even kiba who is impulsive like naruto. the reason is simple all of them think before they act except naruto that is. The new naruto may be better than the old one but he remains a big mouth that only uses brute force

    he is still naruto, he is impulsive. he does have a lot more skills though. he almost killed jiraya when he went kyubii, so he might be able to match pein in kyubii form because pein beat jiraya. if tobi is stronger than them though, he is the strongest, otherwise it is either naruto or pein.
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    zoxir86 wrote:
    ecao123 wrote:
    Um, to zoxir, i'm not quoting since it's so long, but here goes:

    He didn't beat neji because Neji was bragging, Neji did put up all his fight, but in the end, he was exhausted, and Naruto still had energy.

    Kakuzu definitely tried his hardest to stop Naruto after he first saw Naruto use his fuuton rasenshuriken (albeit unsuccessfully, since he didn't hit), he went into long range mode and tried to stop Naruto, but then Naruto tricked him because Kakuzu thought the lead "naruto (there were shadow clones) was the one that would attack him with the fuuton rasenshuriken, but then it turned out that it wasn't, and then.. well, the rest is history. Kakuzu lost two of his 3 reminaining hearts and was severely crippled, anybody could have finished him off after that (meh, just stab a kunai in the last heart, don't have to showboat and stab him with raikiri). Anyways, Naruto did sort of "charge" at tobi, but he came from behind and Tobi didn't know htat he was being attacked, but Tobi so far, can't be hurt at all unless it' Deidara beating up on him lol.

    how do you know tobi wasn't aware of naruto's attack?
    a think he just said everything a wanted to say
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    lavdrim wrote:
    zoxir86 wrote:
    ecao123 wrote:
    Um, to zoxir, i'm not quoting since it's so long, but here goes:

    He didn't beat neji because Neji was bragging, Neji did put up all his fight, but in the end, he was exhausted, and Naruto still had energy.

    Kakuzu definitely tried his hardest to stop Naruto after he first saw Naruto use his fuuton rasenshuriken (albeit unsuccessfully, since he didn't hit), he went into long range mode and tried to stop Naruto, but then Naruto tricked him because Kakuzu thought the lead "naruto (there were shadow clones) was the one that would attack him with the fuuton rasenshuriken, but then it turned out that it wasn't, and then.. well, the rest is history. Kakuzu lost two of his 3 reminaining hearts and was severely crippled, anybody could have finished him off after that (meh, just stab a kunai in the last heart, don't have to showboat and stab him with raikiri). Anyways, Naruto did sort of "charge" at tobi, but he came from behind and Tobi didn't know htat he was being attacked, but Tobi so far, can't be hurt at all unless it' Deidara beating up on him lol.

    how do you know tobi wasn't aware of naruto's attack?
    because a sharingans users blind spot is his back like chiyo said ones a pon a time ago like he tried to do to itachi albeit he was stuck in a genjutsu otherwise it would have worked

    that's for the normal sharingan we don't know if the same applies to the MS
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    lavdrim wrote:
    jujutheking wrote:
    ecao123 wrote:
    Well, I'm betting the first hokage used a lot of wood attacks to beat Madara. My reasoning:

    Wood type ninjutsu can supress tailed beast chakra, and it was said that the first hokage could tame the beasts like his own pets.

    Jiraiya said it was possible that Madara manipulated Kyuubi (and probably other tailed beasts) to attack Konoha and such, so if the first stopped that ability using his beast chakra supressing, it would probably give him the upper hand.

    Anyhow, the strongest at this point with abilities that we know of is most likely to be Pein/Pain. He is six people and each person can see what each other is seeing. He also beat Hanzou, which Jiraiya, Oro, and Tsunade couldn't beat together in their primes. Behind him would have to be Itachi or Jiraiya, Itachi's early growth as a shinobi is nothing short of exceptional, being an anbu squad leader at age 13, basically being as good as kakashi at age 13. And he has the MS which has two unique abilities for which we have seen only he can use. However, Itachi stated that even with Kisame helping him, he could at best kill Jiraiya but not without dying himself. JIraiya is also a very formidable opponent in that special mode that he has (sorry, the name is slipping me).

    The person that has the most potential for growth is obviously naruto. His chakra is basically boundless and can't even be stopped by closing chakra points. Also, the fact that he can use shadow clones to make his training like 1000 times faster also helps. Also, he has only gone to four out of nine tails for Kyuubi's power, so he still has a lot of power left in him as a jinchiruiki (bad spelling).

    It is not Sasuke because the Sharingan and Cursed Seal have limits. It's that simple. Also, the Sharingan uses chakra when it is activated, and a lot of it when using advanced abilities (like Itachi when he used Tsukuyomi 2 times in a day and Ameratsu once). The cursed seal momentarily gives extra chakra and power, but afterwords, the user is completely exhausted, as shown after the sound four run into the two leaf jounin, after the battle with CS2, they had to rest. Anyways, they also have limits to theeir strength. The Sharingan can go to three tomoes (little dots around the pupils), at which point they can track enemy movements to a great extent (only easily thwarted by chakra which has a mind of it's own, like the of Naruto when he uses kyuubi), copy enemy jutsu, see chakra (well, to an extent, as well as see what chakra affinity it is), and cast genjutsu with no handsigns. It also has powers for the MS, but that is all. THere is nothing more. Sasuke has already gotten a three tomoe sharingan and can use genjutsu effectively using it as shown when he battled Itachi last chapter, and when he reversed Oro's body exchange jutsu. The cursed seal is simply more chakra, and more power, just momentarily, and when it's over, the user is completely exhausted. There are also no more levels for CS than 2, since Orochimaru was the one who "invented" it by somehow taming Juugo (sp?).

    So yeah, so far as we have seen, Pein/Pain is the most powerful, and Naruto has the most potential.

    LOL sasuke sharingan and new powers is limitless.LOL pein takjes orders from madara so no pein isn't the strongest.Madara stated sasuke sharingan will surpass itachi.Well if madara is the first then sasuke is 2nd.
    wat makes u think sasuke is the strongest wen naruto has the nine tails and can train 10 times faster then sasuke

    Tell that to to sasuke who beat him once and stabed him the 2nd time.If he can train so much why doesn't freaking take out tobI already??LOL sasuke is the Man.
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    jujutheking wrote:
    lavdrim wrote:
    jujutheking wrote:
    ecao123 wrote:
    Well, I'm betting the first hokage used a lot of wood attacks to beat Madara. My reasoning:

    Wood type ninjutsu can supress tailed beast chakra, and it was said that the first hokage could tame the beasts like his own pets.

    Jiraiya said it was possible that Madara manipulated Kyuubi (and probably other tailed beasts) to attack Konoha and such, so if the first stopped that ability using his beast chakra supressing, it would probably give him the upper hand.

    Anyhow, the strongest at this point with abilities that we know of is most likely to be Pein/Pain. He is six people and each person can see what each other is seeing. He also beat Hanzou, which Jiraiya, Oro, and Tsunade couldn't beat together in their primes. Behind him would have to be Itachi or Jiraiya, Itachi's early growth as a shinobi is nothing short of exceptional, being an anbu squad leader at age 13, basically being as good as kakashi at age 13. And he has the MS which has two unique abilities for which we have seen only he can use. However, Itachi stated that even with Kisame helping him, he could at best kill Jiraiya but not without dying himself. JIraiya is also a very formidable opponent in that special mode that he has (sorry, the name is slipping me).

    The person that has the most potential for growth is obviously naruto. His chakra is basically boundless and can't even be stopped by closing chakra points. Also, the fact that he can use shadow clones to make his training like 1000 times faster also helps. Also, he has only gone to four out of nine tails for Kyuubi's power, so he still has a lot of power left in him as a jinchiruiki (bad spelling).

    It is not Sasuke because the Sharingan and Cursed Seal have limits. It's that simple. Also, the Sharingan uses chakra when it is activated, and a lot of it when using advanced abilities (like Itachi when he used Tsukuyomi 2 times in a day and Ameratsu once). The cursed seal momentarily gives extra chakra and power, but afterwords, the user is completely exhausted, as shown after the sound four run into the two leaf jounin, after the battle with CS2, they had to rest. Anyways, they also have limits to theeir strength. The Sharingan can go to three tomoes (little dots around the pupils), at which point they can track enemy movements to a great extent (only easily thwarted by chakra which has a mind of it's own, like the of Naruto when he uses kyuubi), copy enemy jutsu, see chakra (well, to an extent, as well as see what chakra affinity it is), and cast genjutsu with no handsigns. It also has powers for the MS, but that is all. THere is nothing more. Sasuke has already gotten a three tomoe sharingan and can use genjutsu effectively using it as shown when he battled Itachi last chapter, and when he reversed Oro's body exchange jutsu. The cursed seal is simply more chakra, and more power, just momentarily, and when it's over, the user is completely exhausted. There are also no more levels for CS than 2, since Orochimaru was the one who "invented" it by somehow taming Juugo (sp?).

    So yeah, so far as we have seen, Pein/Pain is the most powerful, and Naruto has the most potential.

    LOL sasuke sharingan and new powers is limitless.LOL pein takjes orders from madara so no pein isn't the strongest.Madara stated sasuke sharingan will surpass itachi.Well if madara is the first then sasuke is 2nd.
    wat makes u think sasuke is the strongest wen naruto has the nine tails and can train 10 times faster then sasuke

    Tell that to to sasuke who beat him once and stabed him the 2nd time.If he can train so much why doesn't freaking take out tobI already??LOL sasuke is the Man.


    wow... that was before the timeskip, now naruto can kill sasuke ( but he still won't )
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    AnimePerson wrote:
    jujutheking wrote:
    lavdrim wrote:
    jujutheking wrote:
    ecao123 wrote:
    Well, I'm betting the first hokage used a lot of wood attacks to beat Madara. My reasoning: Wood type ninjutsu can supress tailed beast chakra, and it was said that the first hokage could tame the beasts like his own pets. Jiraiya said it was possible that Madara manipulated Kyuubi (and probably other tailed beasts) to attack Konoha and such, so if the first stopped that ability using his beast chakra supressing, it would probably give him the upper hand. Anyhow, the strongest at this point with abilities that we know of is most likely to be Pein/Pain. He is six people and each person can see what each other is seeing. He also beat Hanzou, which Jiraiya, Oro, and Tsunade couldn't beat together in their primes. Behind him would have to be Itachi or Jiraiya, Itachi's early growth as a shinobi is nothing short of exceptional, being an anbu squad leader at age 13, basically being as good as kakashi at age 13. And he has the MS which has two unique abilities for which we have seen only he can use. However, Itachi stated that even with Kisame helping him, he could at best kill Jiraiya but not without dying himself. JIraiya is also a very formidable opponent in that special mode that he has (sorry, the name is slipping me). The person that has the most potential for growth is obviously naruto. His chakra is basically boundless and can't even be stopped by closing chakra points. Also, the fact that he can use shadow clones to make his training like 1000 times faster also helps. Also, he has only gone to four out of nine tails for Kyuubi's power, so he still has a lot of power left in him as a jinchiruiki (bad spelling). It is not Sasuke because the Sharingan and Cursed Seal have limits. It's that simple. Also, the Sharingan uses chakra when it is activated, and a lot of it when using advanced abilities (like Itachi when he used Tsukuyomi 2 times in a day and Ameratsu once). The cursed seal momentarily gives extra chakra and power, but afterwords, the user is completely exhausted, as shown after the sound four run into the two leaf jounin, after the battle with CS2, they had to rest. Anyways, they also have limits to theeir strength. The Sharingan can go to three tomoes (little dots around the pupils), at which point they can track enemy movements to a great extent (only easily thwarted by chakra which has a mind of it's own, like the of Naruto when he uses kyuubi), copy enemy jutsu, see chakra (well, to an extent, as well as see what chakra affinity it is), and cast genjutsu with no handsigns. It also has powers for the MS, but that is all. THere is nothing more. Sasuke has already gotten a three tomoe sharingan and can use genjutsu effectively using it as shown when he battled Itachi last chapter, and when he reversed Oro's body exchange jutsu. The cursed seal is simply more chakra, and more power, just momentarily, and when it's over, the user is completely exhausted. There are also no more levels for CS than 2, since Orochimaru was the one who "invented" it by somehow taming Juugo (sp?). So yeah, so far as we have seen, Pein/Pain is the most powerful, and Naruto has the most potential.
    LOL sasuke sharingan and new powers is limitless.LOL pein takjes orders from madara so no pein isn't the strongest.Madara stated sasuke sharingan will surpass itachi.Well if madara is the first then sasuke is 2nd.
    wat makes u think sasuke is the strongest wen naruto has the nine tails and can train 10 times faster then sasuke
    Tell that to to sasuke who beat him once and stabed him the 2nd time.If he can train so much why doesn't freaking take out tobI already??LOL sasuke is the Man.
    wow... that was before the timeskip, now naruto can kill sasuke ( but he still won't )
    Meh... juju sounds like a Sasuke fanboy to me...
    Edited on 01/01/2008 7:31pm
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    One word....Hinata......No seriously. It's Gamakicki. He is just pretending to be useles..
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    AnimePerson wrote:
    jujutheking wrote:
    lavdrim wrote:
    jujutheking wrote:
    ecao123 wrote:
    Well, I'm betting the first hokage used a lot of wood attacks to beat Madara. My reasoning:

    Wood type ninjutsu can supress tailed beast chakra, and it was said that the first hokage could tame the beasts like his own pets.

    Jiraiya said it was possible that Madara manipulated Kyuubi (and probably other tailed beasts) to attack Konoha and such, so if the first stopped that ability using his beast chakra supressing, it would probably give him the upper hand.

    Anyhow, the strongest at this point with abilities that we know of is most likely to be Pein/Pain. He is six people and each person can see what each other is seeing. He also beat Hanzou, which Jiraiya, Oro, and Tsunade couldn't beat together in their primes. Behind him would have to be Itachi or Jiraiya, Itachi's early growth as a shinobi is nothing short of exceptional, being an anbu squad leader at age 13, basically being as good as kakashi at age 13. And he has the MS which has two unique abilities for which we have seen only he can use. However, Itachi stated that even with Kisame helping him, he could at best kill Jiraiya but not without dying himself. JIraiya is also a very formidable opponent in that special mode that he has (sorry, the name is slipping me).

    The person that has the most potential for growth is obviously naruto. His chakra is basically boundless and can't even be stopped by closing chakra points. Also, the fact that he can use shadow clones to make his training like 1000 times faster also helps. Also, he has only gone to four out of nine tails for Kyuubi's power, so he still has a lot of power left in him as a jinchiruiki (bad spelling).

    It is not Sasuke because the Sharingan and Cursed Seal have limits. It's that simple. Also, the Sharingan uses chakra when it is activated, and a lot of it when using advanced abilities (like Itachi when he used Tsukuyomi 2 times in a day and Ameratsu once). The cursed seal momentarily gives extra chakra and power, but afterwords, the user is completely exhausted, as shown after the sound four run into the two leaf jounin, after the battle with CS2, they had to rest. Anyways, they also have limits to theeir strength. The Sharingan can go to three tomoes (little dots around the pupils), at which point they can track enemy movements to a great extent (only easily thwarted by chakra which has a mind of it's own, like the of Naruto when he uses kyuubi), copy enemy jutsu, see chakra (well, to an extent, as well as see what chakra affinity it is), and cast genjutsu with no handsigns. It also has powers for the MS, but that is all. THere is nothing more. Sasuke has already gotten a three tomoe sharingan and can use genjutsu effectively using it as shown when he battled Itachi last chapter, and when he reversed Oro's body exchange jutsu. The cursed seal is simply more chakra, and more power, just momentarily, and when it's over, the user is completely exhausted. There are also no more levels for CS than 2, since Orochimaru was the one who "invented" it by somehow taming Juugo (sp?).

    So yeah, so far as we have seen, Pein/Pain is the most powerful, and Naruto has the most potential.

    LOL sasuke sharingan and new powers is limitless.LOL pein takjes orders from madara so no pein isn't the strongest.Madara stated sasuke sharingan will surpass itachi.Well if madara is the first then sasuke is 2nd.
    wat makes u think sasuke is the strongest wen naruto has the nine tails and can train 10 times faster then sasuke

    Tell that to to sasuke who beat him once and stabed him the 2nd time.If he can train so much why doesn't freaking take out tobI already??LOL sasuke is the Man.


    wow... that was before the timeskip, now naruto can kill sasuke ( but he still won't )

    No he can't! Kyubi actually asked Sasuke Not to kill Naruto
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    firefox59 wrote:
    One word....Hinata......No seriously. It's Gamakicki. He is just pretending to be useles..
    Do you mean Gamakichi?
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    The King of Hell is strongest
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    Popeye. No one be eatin their spinach like him.

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    ecao123

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    zoxir86 wrote:
    AnimePerson wrote:
    jujutheking wrote:
    lavdrim wrote:
    jujutheking wrote:
    ecao123 wrote:
    Well, I'm betting the first hokage used a lot of wood attacks to beat Madara. My reasoning:

    Wood type ninjutsu can supress tailed beast chakra, and it was said that the first hokage could tame the beasts like his own pets.

    Jiraiya said it was possible that Madara manipulated Kyuubi (and probably other tailed beasts) to attack Konoha and such, so if the first stopped that ability using his beast chakra supressing, it would probably give him the upper hand.

    Anyhow, the strongest at this point with abilities that we know of is most likely to be Pein/Pain. He is six people and each person can see what each other is seeing. He also beat Hanzou, which Jiraiya, Oro, and Tsunade couldn't beat together in their primes. Behind him would have to be Itachi or Jiraiya, Itachi's early growth as a shinobi is nothing short of exceptional, being an anbu squad leader at age 13, basically being as good as kakashi at age 13. And he has the MS which has two unique abilities for which we have seen only he can use. However, Itachi stated that even with Kisame helping him, he could at best kill Jiraiya but not without dying himself. JIraiya is also a very formidable opponent in that special mode that he has (sorry, the name is slipping me).

    The person that has the most potential for growth is obviously naruto. His chakra is basically boundless and can't even be stopped by closing chakra points. Also, the fact that he can use shadow clones to make his training like 1000 times faster also helps. Also, he has only gone to four out of nine tails for Kyuubi's power, so he still has a lot of power left in him as a jinchiruiki (bad spelling).

    It is not Sasuke because the Sharingan and Cursed Seal have limits. It's that simple. Also, the Sharingan uses chakra when it is activated, and a lot of it when using advanced abilities (like Itachi when he used Tsukuyomi 2 times in a day and Ameratsu once). The cursed seal momentarily gives extra chakra and power, but afterwords, the user is completely exhausted, as shown after the sound four run into the two leaf jounin, after the battle with CS2, they had to rest. Anyways, they also have limits to theeir strength. The Sharingan can go to three tomoes (little dots around the pupils), at which point they can track enemy movements to a great extent (only easily thwarted by chakra which has a mind of it's own, like the of Naruto when he uses kyuubi), copy enemy jutsu, see chakra (well, to an extent, as well as see what chakra affinity it is), and cast genjutsu with no handsigns. It also has powers for the MS, but that is all. THere is nothing more. Sasuke has already gotten a three tomoe sharingan and can use genjutsu effectively using it as shown when he battled Itachi last chapter, and when he reversed Oro's body exchange jutsu. The cursed seal is simply more chakra, and more power, just momentarily, and when it's over, the user is completely exhausted. There are also no more levels for CS than 2, since Orochimaru was the one who "invented" it by somehow taming Juugo (sp?).

    So yeah, so far as we have seen, Pein/Pain is the most powerful, and Naruto has the most potential.

    LOL sasuke sharingan and new powers is limitless.LOL pein takjes orders from madara so no pein isn't the strongest.Madara stated sasuke sharingan will surpass itachi.Well if madara is the first then sasuke is 2nd.
    wat makes u think sasuke is the strongest wen naruto has the nine tails and can train 10 times faster then sasuke

    Tell that to to sasuke who beat him once and stabed him the 2nd time.If he can train so much why doesn't freaking take out tobI already??LOL sasuke is the Man.


    wow... that was before the timeskip, now naruto can kill sasuke ( but he still won't )

    No he can't! Kyubi actually asked Sasuke Not to kill Naruto


    I guess he trained with like 1000 shadow clones for nothing eh? And surpassed the fourth in improving his jutsu drastically.
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    Hey, I got something for you guys to read:


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    zoxir86 wrote:
    lavdrim wrote:
    zoxir86 wrote:
    lavdrim wrote:
    zoxir86 wrote:
    lavdrim wrote:
    jujutheking wrote:
    ecao123 wrote:
    Well, I'm betting the first hokage used a lot of wood attacks to beat Madara. My reasoning: Wood type ninjutsu can supress tailed beast chakra, and it was said that the first hokage could tame the beasts like his own pets. Jiraiya said it was possible that Madara manipulated Kyuubi (and probably other tailed beasts) to attack Konoha and such, so if the first stopped that ability using his beast chakra supressing, it would probably give him the upper hand. Anyhow, the strongest at this point with abilities that we know of is most likely to be Pein/Pain. He is six people and each person can see what each other is seeing. He also beat Hanzou, which Jiraiya, Oro, and Tsunade couldn't beat together in their primes. Behind him would have to be Itachi or Jiraiya, Itachi's early growth as a shinobi is nothing short of exceptional, being an anbu squad leader at age 13, basically being as good as kakashi at age 13. And he has the MS which has two unique abilities for which we have seen only he can use. However, Itachi stated that even with Kisame helping him, he could at best kill Jiraiya but not without dying himself. JIraiya is also a very formidable opponent in that special mode that he has (sorry, the name is slipping me). The person that has the most potential for growth is obviously naruto. His chakra is basically boundless and can't even be stopped by closing chakra points. Also, the fact that he can use shadow clones to make his training like 1000 times faster also helps. Also, he has only gone to four out of nine tails for Kyuubi's power, so he still has a lot of power left in him as a jinchiruiki (bad spelling). It is not Sasuke because the Sharingan and Cursed Seal have limits. It's that simple. Also, the Sharingan uses chakra when it is activated, and a lot of it when using advanced abilities (like Itachi when he used Tsukuyomi 2 times in a day and Ameratsu once). The cursed seal momentarily gives extra chakra and power, but afterwords, the user is completely exhausted, as shown after the sound four run into the two leaf jounin, after the battle with CS2, they had to rest. Anyways, they also have limits to theeir strength. The Sharingan can go to three tomoes (little dots around the pupils), at which point they can track enemy movements to a great extent (only easily thwarted by chakra which has a mind of it's own, like the of Naruto when he uses kyuubi), copy enemy jutsu, see chakra (well, to an extent, as well as see what chakra affinity it is), and cast genjutsu with no handsigns. It also has powers for the MS, but that is all. THere is nothing more. Sasuke has already gotten a three tomoe sharingan and can use genjutsu effectively using it as shown when he battled Itachi last chapter, and when he reversed Oro's body exchange jutsu. The cursed seal is simply more chakra, and more power, just momentarily, and when it's over, the user is completely exhausted. There are also no more levels for CS than 2, since Orochimaru was the one who "invented" it by somehow taming Juugo (sp?). So yeah, so far as we have seen, Pein/Pain is the most powerful, and Naruto has the most potential.
    LOL sasuke sharingan and new powers is limitless.LOL pein takjes orders from madara so no pein isn't the strongest.Madara stated sasuke sharingan will surpass itachi.Well if madara is the first then sasuke is 2nd.
    wat makes u think sasuke is the strongest wen naruto has the nine tails and can train 10 times faster then sasuke
    cuz naruto is a dumb ass he could not understand he could either understand how his jutsu worked let alone using it correctly. if you're talking about brute force Naruto may be stronger but Sasuke if by far a better ninja and fighter than Naruto
    have u been reading the manga lately to say that is utter stupidness
    yes I have. and you should probably give some arguments in order to call utter stupidness what I wrote or else that will make you comment stupid
    1.against neji tell how did he beat neji at the end. 2.how did he win his most reasent battle since his beaten Kakuzu his shown no other skill except that he can use strategy nearly as well as shikamaru and can use hes mind a lot betta then nearly anyone else, he figured a way to find sasuke in minutes, and the old naruto would of went at tobi without thinking, but now hes calm and using hes mind dont write please unless its something educated,and if u write about the past naruto dont bother cuz a wont argue with u on that. but this new naruto is nothing like the old one.
    both of them were to busy on bragging rather than fighting. Neji on how naruto is destined to lose against a genius like him and kakuzu on how he fought the first Hokage. How can you even say naruto was calm against tobi he just charged at him without thinking how ONE single guy stood against 8. why didn't anyone else attack tobi? Not even kiba who is impulsive like naruto. the reason is simple all of them think before they act except naruto that is. The new naruto may be better than the old one but he remains a big mouth that only uses brute force
    Naruto is a big mouth who uses brute force? That applies much more to Sasuke than Naruto. Naruto uses some level of strategy in all of his fights. Sasuke never uses strategy, unless you count spamming Sharingan, Ten no Juin, and Chidori as strategy. Beside that, Naruto has the strongest jutsu in the series (Fuuton: Rasenshuriken). The only thing that could potentially do more damage is a large summoning. Too bad Sasuke killed Manda and Gamabunta's fine!
    Edited on 01/02/2008 9:56am
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    Sanins,Hokages,Akatsukis and Naruto.
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