This idea of flashbacks ie what would life have been like if he hadn't taken a certain action, has been done many times before and better. The case in this episode was uninteresting and the constant fuzzy flashbacks annoying. All round a very disappointing episode for the 200th.
The milestone episode was good but far from perfect. The opening scene was clever and it hit my interest but the case was extremely dull and it could have been better. I even think that the episode would have made it without the case. I liked the flashbacks in this episode. They were great and it was nice too see what would have happened if Ari never took the shot on Kate. Speaking of Ari, he returned to this episode but he did not even say a word. Come on writers. He could have had a nice dialogue with Gibbs. The best parts of this episode were the scenes where Gibbs interacted with his mother or father. Anyway, an episode worth seeing despite its flaws. If you want a perfect milestone episode, jump back to the 100th episode, "Chimera".
I liked the general idea, because Gibbs is the character which has the darkest past and it was good to understand his choices better. But I really didn't had the feeling that I was watching NCIS, in fact, it reminded me of the episode "If/then" of Greys anatomy : (. And I expected much more feelings in the scene with his wife and daughter, at least not the "Thank God we're dead because I'd rather see myself and my daughter die than you." and she was calling him Gibbs all the time !! Even Ducky calls him Jethro from time to time, but not even his wife ?
I've been a NCIS fan from season 1 and I feel it's "jumping the shark" as I read in other reviews. Too bad...
It's hard to believe NCIS has had it's 200th episode. I enjoyed how it showed things from the perspective of how he handled himself and how things have happened. I also liked how it went back to his training as a sniper, and what if he was able to Kate being shot. It shows all the "what ifs" that some people think about in real life. Goes to show, that we end up touching more people's lives then we think. I thought it was funny how Kate and Tony became a couple, and McGee and Abby were still a couple. So much for Rule 12.
The episode wasn't perfect. No episode ever is. Truth is though that every show needs an introspective episode. NCIS does not do that. They cling onto the past rarely, and like to make sure that every episode is new, current, and interesting. The only problem with that is the show becomes very CSI-esque. Someone died, find out who. Someone ELSE died, find out who. That gets monotonous and boring. Gibbs is the most secretive and the most important character in the show, and there is NO better time to look inside his choices and understand how we got here than during the 200th episode. Bringing back Mike and Hernandez, Jenny, Shannon and Kelly was great. Just like the episode in which we find out that Gibbs killed his wife and daughter's murderer, we got to understand why Gibbs is the way he is. His strength battles his guilt everyday because he realizes he is no better than any of the men he's put away. I loved Gibbs's mom. It's always great to have a new character brought in, and you KNOW she's not coming back in future episodes, but was just a character used to teach Gibbs a lesson: if she hadn't left, Gibbs would not have grown up faster, he might never have needed to leave Pennsylvania, and join the Marines, which means he might never have met Shannon. Ripple effect. Interesting storyline, great execution, fantastic episode. If you don't think so, that's alright. Your opinion is your opinion, but for me, nothing marks a 200th episode like introspection.
IDK but... I may have a lot of back tracking to do but "Is there something going on between Gibbs & Abby?" EOTH and the basement scene in this ep I couldn't help but notice all the eye contact.... Don't tell me age difference right? LOL I'm just wondering because I started watching because Gibbs and Abby have scenes together that just made me question what type of relationship they have. IDK but just thought I toss my Q in here LOL
Not quite a waste of 41 minutes, but close. There must have been an original script developing the Chinese Espionage angle. But due to the USA owing so much to money to the Chinese, somebody thought they might be offended and last minute threw together this hodgepodge of past clips to fill the time slot.
So I watched this episode last night and it seemed the main theme was if Gibbs had done any of a number of things differently then Kate and Tony would be together with a kid, and Abbie and Tim would be together. Are we supposed to think those things are terrible and it's a good thing Gibbs made all the decisions he made.
The flashback where he didn't shoot the drug lord didn't even bother to explain how Kate lived because of that choice.
I have been losing interest in this show for the last few years, and the writing this season has not really changed my mind. Every line seems cliche, Abbie must be at least over 30 and still acts like a child, and Ziva has started to make those stupid phrase word mistakes she hasn't done since the 5th season, I'm starting to think she is just trolling everyone.
NCIS is my favourite show, I love how the characters and storylines develop, but this episode just wasn't good. It seems like every TV show now has to have one of these episodes where they look back on decisions a character has made and involving destiny... I like NCIS because up to now, they hadn't done such an episode (that one with Kate appearing to the others after she was shot was enough for me). Mike talking about the decisions Gibbs has made, and then flashing back to the case and the boy saying to Gibbs that it's all for him to decide, that was pretty neat, wasn't it (attention: sarcasm)? And in the end, Gibbs saying he wouldn't have it any other way, like he was saying "yeah, I like being shot on a regular basis, at least I'm saving some lives in the process", that was just a bit too cheesy for my taste. And having the Tony/Kate issue popping up now and again isn't just working. All in all, you can't change the things you've done, so there's no point in discussing it (unless you're starring in Lost or Heroes).
I,like many others,were waiting for this 200th episode to be aired.Well what a waste of air-time.
Has CBS suddenly had an influx of "PROBIE" script-writers for the show,I don't thinks so which leaves me to ask 'why oh why' did they miss-out on something which by rights should've been amazing,etc,etc,etc.Just like Michael Weatherly I too love and watch all 3 CSI's.Now CSI-NY hadjust done a show,with the script having 9/11 as it's neucleus and that was done with a score I would have put at 12/10....Ok there were the odd flash backs but the writers made it work.
Now NCIS tried something similar,trouble is they got ''Egg on their Faces'',cos' it did'nt work
now the cast were'nt to blame but MH should've opened his mouth if he thought it was wrong.In the diner scene apart from Mike Franks,(sadly missed off the show by the way)the
only other person to recognise MH/Gibbs is Ducky.
It left me with the feeling that the producers were trying to do an 'Icarus',we all know what he
ended up doing .........FALLING.Now I know the show will only return to it's magical formulae
but,take note CBS you've only got 2 more strikes left and then your out......!!!!
I love NCIS but this 200th episode was disappointing. Tony & Kate are/were not a believable couple and neither are Abbey and McGee. The past two seasons just have not been as good as the previous ones and the characters are not progressing. McGee has changed over the years and so has Ziva (although I prefer how she was before). But Abbey's character really needs to grow up! I like Abbey but I am tired of her acting like a child. This episode was also disappointing due to the fact that they couldn't get Sasha Alexander and Lauren Holly to actually come back but instead used clips from previous episodes like we wouldn't notice. The show is starting to lack suspense and when you can figure out in the first five minutes "who dun it" then it's time to look at the writers. I was expecting more from this show and this whole season and so far have been very disappointed. :(
The reason that there is so much Kate, and not Ziva, is that in this reality, Ziva is a terrorist, and not a NCIS agent. While not everyone agrees that it was a good episode, that is similar to the show, we all have our own opinions and choices. We may not always like the ones that are made. This made me reflect on my own life as I watched this. Makes you wonder if this is what it is like, where you finally confront your choices that were made in life.
I was hoping they would answer the question that I am sure everyone wanted answered, How does he get the boat from his basement?
There was way too much Kate in this episode. I can't believe she and Tony get married in the alternative reality. There wasn't enough Ziva!!!! Or Tony and Ziva interaction. I wanted to see what would have happened between them in another world.
Gibbs seeing Kelly and Shannon again was so sad. I liked learning more about Gibbs past though, and the decisions he's made and how that has impacted on everything. Overall it was a good episode.
I'm a huge fan of alternative universes, so I was particular intrigued with the use of "What if . . ." in this episode. While Gibbs on the surface has dealt with his two biggest regrets in life, they come roaring back in full force here as he faces his regrets and deepest sorrows in not being able to protect Shannon and Kelly, and not being able to save Kate.
Would Kate and Tony have married and had a baby if Kate hadn't been killed by Ari? Would McGee and Abby become a couple, with a new place, happily cooking gumbo and bread pudding? Would Ziva have become more deeply emeshed in Mossad and Ari's terrorism tactics?
The real-time story of a man who made bad choices in trying to save his family didn't really quite mesh the way it was intended. It was supposed to serve as a counterpoint to "when good people do bad things" -- Gibbs killed Pedro Hernandez in revenge for the murder of his family. Does that mean that the father in this episode had equal cause for killing his co-thieves, to save the world from the results of espionage (and, by the way, put some money in his pocket so he won't have to face losing his house or telling his son that they can't afford college.) To me, the comparison didn't quite hold up.
In season 8, Gibbs tells Paloma Renosa that he didn't lose a single night's sleep over killing her father. But this episode seems to contradict that declaration. Mike Franks (in the role of "It's A Wonderful Life"'s angel, Clarence) suggests that if Gibbs had not killed Hernandez, his inaction would have eventually destroyed him. At one point, Gibbs tells him "I shot the son-of-a-bitch, but when I got home, my home was empty -- and my girls were still gone," which suggests there was going to be anguish and regrets either way. So what was the "right" choice?
Shannon suggests that if things had turned out differently -- if he had been able to save them -- then he would not have joined NIS, and would have stayed in the Marines. "And the loss would have fallen on us," she tells him gently. His death in battle would have meant that he would not have been at NCIS to solve the hundreds of cases that he had solved.
The parade of "This is your life" characters was entertaining. A beautiful Jenny, a sneering Ari, a somber Pedro Hernandez, Joan Matteson embracing a young Jethro -- and finally meeting Gibb's proud mother, Ann. It was strange to hear Shannon chide Gibbs -- "No Tony? No Ziva?" -- when he protested that he would have given it all up to stay with her.
This was a very different episode -- reflective and thoughtful. Every season gives us new insights into what made Gibbs the man he is today -- the sense of duty, the bruised honor that he reclaims with every case solved at NCIS. We have never gotten a true sense of resolution with Gibbs' shooting of Hernandez -- we saw his sympathy as Abby struggled with her discovery, but we never saw him deal with it. In this episode, we did -- and perhaps he can finally put it to rest.
(A small quibble: The editing in of Kate after the birth of the baby was a little clumsy. She was wearing almost the same pajamas that she wore in "SWAK", and her "What?!" was just a little too 'off' and obviously spliced in. I would have liked to have seen a warmer, softer Kate as a new mom.)
We learnt a lot about Gibbs in this episode, why he's attracted to red heads (that part was very sweet!), what would have happened if he didn't shoot the Mexican drug lord, what would have happened if Kate wasn't killed, the sad lonely man who was just a shell without his NCIS work. The people who made a significant mark in Gibbs life were seen throughout the episode, Jenny, Ari, Pacci, Fornell, young Gibbs, Shannon and Kellie.
this episode showcased the events which helped make Gibbs the agent and man he is today, and the people who are with him now are the family he chose - not to replace the ones he lost. I liked this episode mainly due to the fact we get to see/meet Gibbs Mum and the scene with Shannon and Kellie almost had me in tears. (McGee and Abby being married was an extra bonus!)
MH and Muse were amazing together-the rest of the episode not.Tate-wrong on many levels.McAbby-love them but didn't fit.And Ziva-why bother with that interrogation scene-served no purpose.Episode gave more time to Kate than Ziva. Love Sasha but Kate was this one dimenisonal character but maybe that is why she is liked-easier to write for.
TPTB need to respect these characters and their history and IF they dothat, they will be repecting the fans. Right now I feel like I've been slapped in the face and not sure if I want to take it anymore.
I do not want to say this. I've been looking forward to this for weeks, and the episode turned out to be a huge disappointment.
Too many things were going on through the episode, and it didn't really have a clear point. It just seemed very unnecessary. It would've been better if they had focused on present story-lines, like the relationship between Tony and Ziva or the fact that Abby's adopted.
The episode was not exciting. To be honest, the only part I actually enjoyed was when Gibbs met Kelly and Shannon. That made me cry.
This episode should not have been the 200th. "A Desperate Man" would've been a better choice.
To me, too many things were rushed and simply left dangling. For instance, my brain has been itching to find out exactly why Ziva was being interrogated at NCIS? Were Ari and Vance playing a chess game of Gibbs' life? if Tony and Kate were so happy and made a baby why the heck was he talking so nasty to her after the delivery? Makes me want them to have the deleted scenes on the DVD set for the season so I can find out these answers!
I did like Ann Gibbs. Those scenes with Gibbs were extremely touching. And, as always, anytime Gibbs has a scene with Shannon it's heartbreaking.
I usually love NCIS episodes. However I thought there would be something more expolsive for the 200th episode. Maybe it's because I'm a hardcore Ziva fan. I did however like that at the end he realised despite Kate's death he wouldn't have his team any other way.
The writers did an outstanding job on updating for the 21st century and for NCIS the classic, "It's a Wonderful Life." Yeah, it starts out different, but has many of the major, key concepts where Gibbs gets to see how his decisions, the roads taken and not taken would lead to different results.
For Gibbs, he made the hard and best decisions to help himself, those who love him, and the total stranger / the brief acquaintance. It really is a wonderful life Gibbs is leading and seems to continue to lead for the betterment of all of us.
As always I round up my review, since TV.com went to the .5 from the .1 rating system. This means a 9.501 rounds up to a 10. In this case, though, I don't need to round up. This is an outstanding episode and I proudly give it a 10.. .
NCIS, the show every hour long drama wants to be, but so few can match in quality, reached its 200th episode tonight and gave a nice introspective and retrospective on Gibbs, the decisions he had to make, and will continue to make in the future. It was a look back without rehashing too many clips and it made for a good story, while playing with time in the vein of Lost.
I won't say an all-time great, but there was something special about the episode. It was different, but at the same time, it had everything we love about NCIS in it.
First off, I adore Gibbs. So naturally I LOVE!! Gibbs-centric episodes.
The montage was awesome!
And you can't go wrong when you put Mike Franks in an episode.
So good to see Daddy Gibbs and finally see his mom, Ann. Now we know why LJ has a thing for redheads! It was so sweet and touching when she kissed Gibbs. I also loved his mom. "I'm proud of the boy I knew, and proud of the man you've become."
And of course the scene with Shannon and Kelly was also sad and touching. Shannon tells him if they hadn't died, he wouldn't have joined NIS. Then the scene cuts to Marines in dress uniform on the front step.
I shouldn't have let it happen> I shouldn't have let you testify.
I wanted to help, Gibbs. If we hadnt died, you wouldn't have joined NIS. If you had stayed a marine; the loss would have fallen on us instead. Think of all of the cases. You helped people.
I wanted both.
Shannon: It doesnt work like that.
I thought it was so sad toward the end when we see a lonely embittered Gibbs in his basement. Ducky and the team come to see him he tells them "I don't want you here." and "Get out. I don't want your pity."
The title is revealing of the episode and it's probably not a spoiler to say who it's about - since we get to see from the very beginning - Gibbs. Some interesting characters show up, including a special lady that I know we've all missed since like the end of season 2. Superb acting from the regulars, thanks for this pace-changer. Great episode, really enjoyed it for the most part. :)