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Regina traded the Dark Curse to Maleficient for the "Sleeping Beauty" curse- where the victim falls into a long sleep. If it's the only curse on the apple Snow ate, it forces the victim to relive their regrets- nasty!- but I'm still not sure there was only 1 curse operative here. SleepingBeauty was eventually wakened- Regina should have known that when she traded for the Sleeping curse. Still, when Charming woke Snow, Regina decided that Maleficient had cheated her and went to get the Dark Curse back (remember how she told Maleficient that during their first fight?)

Regina had to have the Dark Curse before she could trade it for the Sleeping curse- was it originally her mother's? or had she acquired it while she was married to Leopold? Rumplestiltskin may have known all along that a desperate soul would be willing to cast it one day, once he'd been able to get all the necessary ingredients (Snow's and Charming's hair = final ingredient?) Alternatively, it could have been a commission from Regina.

The way Regina sashayed into Rumplestiltskin's castle at the end of "Skin Deep" makes me think that they were on frenemy terms at that time- each powerful enough for the other to need to be civil, even if they were working at cross purposes. I just wonder whether they'd been reallyclosefriends at some point prior, or whether they were using each other all along.

Ok, I just saw the part of episode 2 where Regina and Maleficent fought. Maleficent had the dark curse in her staff, but she also wanted to know who gave Regina this MOTHER of all curses.

1. Rumple created the Dark Curse.

2. Then somehow the queen got the curse.

3. Then somehow Maleficent got it.

4. Regina then wanted it back from Maleficent, but Maleficent refused to give it back to Regina, and tells Regina that there are even boundaries that even EVIL should not cross. Regina then fights Maleficent for it.

5. Regina tries the curse, but fails the first time around

6. With the curse still with Regina, she seek advice from Rumple as to why the curse doesn't work.

7. While in jail, Rumple tells her that she must sacrifice the one thing/person that she loves the most in order for the curse to work.

8. Regina then kills her father who she really did love, in order for the same curse that failed before to now work.

As far as the sleeeping curse is concern, Regina got that apple from the witch in Hansel and Gretel episode. OUAT will bring Maleficent back, especially to explain to it's viewers how Maleficent got the curse in the 1st place in Fairy world.

In the season finale, Rumple told Regina and Emma that when the original dark curse in Fairy world was made, he took just ONE DROP of the potion and placed it on the parchment (The scroll Regina read from). Did we all noticed that when the same curse was used in Fairy World the color of the smoke was black and dark?? But on Earth/Storybrooke it's purple. Is it purple because magic on earth is unpredictable (like Regina said), or is it because it depends on the users intentions. hmmm???

Why Rumple didn't have to sacrifice Belle on Earth for the curse/magic to work? Because he used the whole bottle. In Fairy World , the curse (parchment/scroll) had only one drop which is the reason I believe she had to sacrifice her father.

What a lot of people might not know is that the writers of the show pitched this show to Disney/ABC in 2004. Disney and the writes both agreed to put this show on the shelves so that they may concentrate all of their efforts on writing and producing LOST.

I think we are going a very well scripted future shows for OUAT! I LOVED LOST, but that ending.......errrgh. I still don' t fully understand.

Is it still possible to find that finale with pictures, the comments? I don't know what it is, where it is. It mentions rumple and belle sexing up or something?

The Dark Curse probably had lots of ingredients (remember when Snow goes to see Rumplestiltskin, they show "the spice rack of evil"? wish I could remember who called it that first), but the true love potion, which is Snow and Charming's hairs, doesn't include anything else. The true love potion is purple, hence the purple smoke.

They really should bring back Maleficient- she's too interesting to be left dead. There's the whole Sleeping Beauty story left to tell! And I really wish they'd spent more time on the dragon- very cool!

In one version of "Sleeping Beauty", the sleeper isawakened by a king, whokeeps her locked up so his wife won't find out about their affair. Is it possible that's how Beauty ruined Maleficient's life? Reginamentions during Maleficient's first appearancethat she was engaged to be married and Beauty ruins everything.

I think magic in Storybrooke's world is going to be very different than the magicians expect- breaking the Curse is only the beginning of Mr Gold's agenda! Why else would he have collected all the magic items that were associated with the stories we've seen so far, except to use them?

Yes, this magic will be different. For one thing, people in SB will remember who they truly are when they were in Fairy world. Why? Rumple would want Belle to remember who she really is.

They will all stay in SB Maine. I also believe that will be allowed to leave SB and travel to other parts of the world. Why? So Rumple can find his son.

I honestly feel that season 2 will start out with Regina not being able to have any Magic. Why? Because what she did to Belle. However, somewhere along season 2, she will be able regain black magic with the help of Dr. Whale. I believe Dr. Whale is a character that was close to Regina in fairy world.

This show throughout it's entire run of potential season will focus on how and when they all get back to their world. Just like in Lost, when everyone was trying figure how to get off the island and back to California. This show has so much potential.

Regina seemed to recognize the purple cloud of magic returning- remember her smile at the very end? So I think she will have some magic. Enough to get out of town? or will she stay around somewhere?

It was pretty obvious that the "ripple" of magic spreading out because Emma kissed Henry has restored everyone's memories (except Belle's old neighbors, perhaps- who else is down there with Sydney?) So the next challenge for Storybrooke's residents will be to find each other and get their stories straight. It will be interesting to see what other story lines they decide to pick up. (Will we finally get to meet some more FTL villains?)

Mr Gold and Belle are likely to be leaving town- for a honeymoon trip?- as Mr Gold implied during his chat with Regina in "An Apple Red as Blood". August (assuming he's restored to life) may take off again, or he may stick around to help Gepetto, Emma, and Henryadjust to the new rules of Storybrooke. (It would really stink if he were still dead wood) Snow and Charming are finally going to get their ducks in a row, and maybe even acknowledge Emma as their daughter rather than a contemporary (some adjustments required there!)

Dr Whale is going to have some explaining to do, whether Regina sticks around or not- too many people know he worked with Regina. Sydney may be stuck in the"sanitarium" unless Jefferson lets him and any others out (what's the Chief's backstory?) And King George the DA is likely to start up again with Snow and Charming, since he'll remember the past again.

I hope Maleficient will show up again- if anyone has a shot at predicting Regina's next move, it's her. Plus, I like Kristen Bauer. But I'd really like to know if the Blind Witch is a "before" Maleficient (before she gets baked in the oven, that is) like I thought when I first saw "True North". Because Regina engineering Hansel and Gretel's theft of the apple could be explained neatly if both actresses are portraying the same witch at different points in her life- there'd be only one Apple, not the 2 which people are getting worked up about, and only one Sleeping Curse.

As of 1 minute ago (I checked), "Snackrifices" is the most recent Lily Sparks review posted.Lily may have posted one for "A Land without Magic", but it has disappeared. (I didn't get a chance to see it either, and I soooo wanted to!) If it was taken down by accident, I hope they put it back!

I'd like to know WHY Regina loves Henry. Especially since she knows he is Snow White and Prince Charming's "grandson" - the son of "the savior" Emma. She doesn't love or care about anyone else, but for some reason she really does love this child. It's obvious the boy doesn't "love" her and doesn't want anything to do with her. Yet we clearly saw how much she does love him when he was dying.

How did Rumple "find" this child for her?

Although at this point in time I think Henry is Rumple's grandson, WHY would he GIVE Regina his grandson? Especially if he KNEW how to FIND Henry - WHY can't he find his son?

My theory is that Bae doesn't want to be found. If this is true, then it's possible that Mr Gold recognised his own bloodline and brought Henry back to Storybrooke, hoping Bae would show up eventually. (This might be whyMr Goldwas fooled into believing August was Bae- he created a relationship with Henry, like a dad would, and believed in the magic. Still have trouble with the notion that Rumplestiltskin could create a Dark Curse to locate his son, but couldn't remember what color the kid's eyes and hair were, though)But Emma never told the father of her son that Henry was on the way!

If you believe HoroKits that Mr Gold didn't know who he was until his memories were triggered by Emma saying her name, then my theory isn't possible. I choose to believe that Mr Gold might not remember FTL completely, but would still retain some recollection of Bae. Maybe enough to try looking for him. This wouldn't necessarily trigger Regina's suspicions; she never knew Rimplestiltskin when he wasn't missing his son, so to her that might be normal. Of course, he might not talk about it much anyway. And even if he did, Regina might think it was a fitting Curse-effect for him.

Is this theory too simple? Regina loves Henry because she spent 10 years raising him, as she said "soothing every fever, enduring every tantrum" before she ever found out who his real parents and grandparents are. You don't just stop loving someone after 10 years, it's not that easy. And she probably thought she could still win up until he ate the turnover so why would she want to stop loving him when she thought she could keep him and go back to the way things were. I'm pretty sure the writers have something way more amazing in store, but I would buy this in any other show.

It appears many of us have a LOT of questions regarding ONE character - Henry.