One Tree Hill

Cryin' Won't Help You Now

Season 5, Episode 16, Aired 5/5/08

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The residents of Tree Hill must face difficult struggles in the coming weeks. Lucas investigates his father's heart condition and when he learns that Dan was telling the truth his conscience comes into conflict with his desires. Haley wrestles with her decision to let Dan into Jamie's life and Peyton struggles with her guilt over Lucas' breakup. Meanwhile, Mouth finally gets the chance to be a sports anchor but when the time comes will he be a roaring success or major flop?moreless

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Chad Michael Murray

Lucas Scott
James Lafferty

Nathan Scott
Hilarie Burton

Peyton Sawyer

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brook as finally coming into her role as a mother, peyton goes to see lindsey and lucas and nathan have to deal with dans problem.

5.0

"Mediocre"

By rush_86, Jul 15, 2010 Report Abuse

i know i've said it a bazillion times before, but the storyline with brooke and the baby is totally unrealistic. okey so if we look away from the whole her being 22 and wanting a baby and the whole her getting a sick baby on a trial basis.... how long has she had angie, two weeks??? she got attached really fast, no? and when she's at the doctors with angie and luke, where are the representatives for the adoption agency? in situations like these the sick babys parents would be there, representatives for the organization(s) that brought the baby to the states would be there, representatives for the hospital would be there.... and the way brooke keeps questioning herself, "am i good enough, what am i doing, what have i gotten myself into" just show that she isnt ready for kids just yet!! and i realize that she is concerned abiut the baby but she has no say about wether or not angie should or shouldnt have the surgery, the baby came to the states to have it, she cant say no, even if she does feel that its too dangerous...
there are two many holes in this storyline for me to believe it... ok enough about that...

dan: ok so he is dying, i believe that he is, i mean it's not like he didnt have it comeing.... but if lucas haley and nathan really want nothing to do with him, how about getting a restraining order?? i mean nathan clearly mentioned that dan was violating his parole..... if thats the case a restraining order shouldnt be too hard to obtain.

peyton: just feel sorry for her, i mean she is in love with a guy who claims to be in love with lindsey and when she tries to get them back together, she gets proof that lukas does love her back, he just doesnt want to admit it... arrrggghh. luke is anoying. i notices her and haley talking about her real father(the guy ellie was with) but whatever happened to her brother (real-derek) i mean espesially now that she is so lost and is going through a tough time, it would be nice if her brother came back to guide her(like he did before)

q and skills: i knew q would apologize, he just needed to cool off
mouth and millie: these two annoy me, they're so cheezy, and so sugar coated, blah!moreless

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Errr... bad season?

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By krazy4crack, Jun 06, 2010 Report Abuse

So more things that don't make sense happen. Peyton goes to Lindsey, which in my opinion is really boring. Q quits the team, but comes back! Gasp! What else happens? Jamie wants to see Grandpa Dan and everyone starts to find out about his situation. Mouth gets a shot to be the sports reporter, but completely screws up, but then magically does better when Millicent arrives. And then cartoon characters came out and said, "we must give love."Brooke is getting better at being a mother, but is still having problems overall dealing with her job and a meeting with possible customers.moreless

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By Psiphoon, Aug 22, 2008 Report Abuse

I hated this episode for one reason and one reason only: Haley James Scott. How could she throw away Jamie's letter? How can she be so cruel to deny a dying man's last wish? Jamie is a boy and he should be given the opportunity to spend some time with his grandfather before his death. I am so tired of Haley; she is so whiny, complaining about nothing, telling everybody about how she can't fulfil her dreams because she has a family. She's always losing faith in Nathan, on and off, on and off. Simply put, she is ruining the show. I am tired of watching the Haley James Scott Soap Opera! The rest of the episode was alright, though I still cannot see why Lucas is always with Brooke!? And the whole Brooke baby situation is boring: I seriously don't care what happens. The best part of the episode is either all the basketball tactics created or Dan coming in and mixing things up. And when Milli is playing Halo (though it makes no sense that she just killed someone in online play and then put down the controller to talk to Mouth)

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Dan the dying man

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By VGFreak8, Aug 14, 2008 Report Abuse

Lucas, Nathan and Haley search into Dan's condition to find out if he is lying or not. Dan really wants to be in Nathan and Jamie's lives, but Nathan won't let him. Lucas finds out that Dan really is dying and only has 6 monthes to live without a heart transplant. Dan keeps following Nathan around. Jamie really wants to see Dan and it breaks Haley's heart. In order to make the playoffs, Lucas and Skills need a good strategy because Quentin quits the team. Jamie suggests shooting a lot of 3-pointers. It works! Nathan convinces Quentin to re-join and he becomes the point guard for passing. Lucas tries to re-connect with Lindsey, but she rejects him. Peyton struggles with her feelings for Lucas, so she sees Lindsey. Lucas helps Brooke out with Angie a lot. They learn about Angie's imperative surgery, which sounds dangerous to Brooke. Brooke, with the help of little Angie, has a successful presentation. Mouth is given the chance to be the sports announcer for the day. For his first one, he is nervous as heck, but Millicent goes to cheer him on and he does much better. Haley starts recording with Peyton.

This episode was great! I don't know whether to be sorry for Dan or not. If he is dying and he really does want to change, then I would let him, but you never really know with Dan. I like Quentin's transformation from a stuck-up rude kid to a polite (sort of) injured basketball star. Jamie is awesome! This episode gets a 9.5 out of 10!moreless

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I keep loving this show more every week, another great episode

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By karatiz, May 18, 2008 Report Abuse

How stupid is that guy? Still wanting to be bigger than Keith.

Dan is sick, Nathan has doubts about what to do with the situation, because of Jaime.
Luke has no doubts, Dan is already dead to him.

Angie's surgery is becoming more real, Brooke and Luke go to see the doctor about the procedure. Brooke is getting attached to Angie, I can see it...

Q quitting the time is bad, he is the best player but with that hand.

I know this is becoming a bit recap of the episode but it helps me remember it. I loved the scene when Mouth was anchoring the sports segments, he was terrible but when Milly arrived, he was the best.

I have to give a hand to Peyton, she drove to see Lindsey and talk to her about Luke. I'm not entirely sure Lindsey is right but she has a point, Peyton has to choose because that novel means a lot and she saw that when she read it.
But Luke loves Lindsey and I don't know what is going to happen...

And the scene when Brooke took Angie to a meeting!! That was amazing. She and Angie connected and the meeting was a success, by the end that executive as holding Angie and smiling. I loved it

Nathan makes his decision finally. And Angie finally smiled!

Haley shouldn't have done that, I know something bad is going to happen. Jaime knows that Dan lives in the beach and just throwing that to the garbage like that... He is going to find it and he will get very sad. I just know it. I worried that he might run home to give Dan his thank you note himself.moreless

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Trivia
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- When we see Lucas' buddy list on his computer we see Haley's screen name is BigFtHunterHJS. This is in reference to Lucas' goal in his yearbook in episode 4x19 "Ashes of Dreams You Let Die": To write the next Great American Novel and to find Big Foot before Haley. Edit
- When Lucas is online, we can see that his buddy list includes Lindsey Strauss (Lindsey), Scott23 (Nathan), BDavis (Brooke), Marv (Mouth), JunkYrdDog (Junk), Fergielicious (Fergie), and BigFtHunterHJS (Haley). Edit
- We find out that Millicent's last name is Huxtable. Edit
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- Original International Air Dates: Denmark: Saturday, May 31, 2008 on TV3+ Norway: Wednesday, July 9, 2008 on TVNorge Latin America: Sunday, September 14, 2008 on Fox Life Greece: Saturday, October 18, 2008 on Star Sweden: Sunday, October 26, 2008 on Kanal 5 Germany: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 on VOX Edit
- Featured Music: "Builds and Explodes" by Tim Williams "When Will It Happen" by Arden Kaywin "My love in Blue" by Tom Hanson "Song We Sang Away" by Low vs Diamond "Second Chances" by Paper Route "In Love With A Girl" by Gavin Degraw "Between The Minds" by Jack Savoretti "Twenty Years" by Augustana Edit
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- Dan: Without a transplant I'll be dead within six months. Lucas: But you're dead to so many of us already, Dan. Really, what does it matter? Edit
- Haley: Look, before the wedding I told Lucas that he shouldn't marry Lindsay. Peyton: Why? Haley: Because I had just read his new novel and when I did I knew right away that he was still in love with you, whether he's ready to admit it or not. Edit
- (Talking about the new line Baby Brooke) Brooke: It's fun, it's edgy and every cute baby is gonna drool for it or on it. Edit
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- The episode's title is an allusion of the song by Ben Harper. Edit