Echoes, Silence, Patience and Grace

Season 5, Episode 13, Aired
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Episode Summary

Lucas is distraught after being being dumped at the altar, while Nathan and Haley go to counseling to work out their marital problems, with surprising results. Dan is a free man, but he runs into a dead end trying to readjust. Brooke is asked some difficult questions while being interviewed to be an adoptive mom. Meanwhile, Peyton gets a visit from her old friend, Max, the old owner of the infamous Tree Hill music shop.moreless
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  • Naley goodness = :)

    10
    "Perfect"
    I loved Naley. They are so cute. It was definitely time for them to get back together. The counsler had a pretty annoying voice, but when they were talking about what they like about each other.

    Speaking of the Lucas needs to get over this moany whinning thing with Lindsey and wake up and smell the Peyton. I seriously don't get how Lucas would wait for Lindsey but he couldn't wait for Peyton. Andy was getting on my nevres with that too.

    Peyton talking to Max was nice. I loved how they were talking about Mia and she had a poster. I also liked how she went for that drive and took down the for sale sign.

    Dan needs to leave Tree Hill now. I don't trust him, especially with Jamie. I loved Brooke at the end with the adoption lady. I felt so bad for her when she said no and then Brooke totally nailed that speech. I can't believe they talked to Victoria.

    I also loved the closing voice over one of my new favorites I think.moreless

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  • 4 weeks has passed, and basically nothing new has happened, it was just another: lets-talk-things-through-episode and it was way too much of a commercial for Foo Fighters newest album!

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    4 weeks has passed, and basically nothing new has happened, it was just another: lets-talk-things-through-episode and it was way too much of a commercial for Foo Fighters newest album!

    I mean seriously: the name of the episode is the same as Foo Fighters newest album and the cover art for the album is shown 2 times, first we see the camera zooming out from it (in Peyton's office) and later we see Peyton pressing on it on the wall. If that's not enough, one of the last songs played in the episode is one from the exact same album. Product placement for the win!!

    But let's move on to what the episode was all about; Brook was having an interview with some lady from child-services, because see was apparently serious about adopting a kid. Haley and Nathan who has a couple session with an Australian/NZ psychologist, working on their marriage. Peyton in her office the former owner of a music shop Peyton used to go to, where she was talking about how much she misses Lucas. And finally Lucas who is far away with his niece, his mother and her boyfriend, where he is talking about how much he misses Lindsey. Overall I think it was a bit boring, after the first 5 min. of Haley and Nathans session it was pretty obvious that they are going to get back together, so I think a little too much time was spend on that subject, but then again, it was a realistic illustration of the fact that things like that can take a lot of time to fix.

    What I liked about the episode was brooks interview, but I think yet again that they exaggerated, because she is 22 years old, she is seeing someone and she is properly cable of having a child herself, but she just want one, NOW! But forgetting that for a second I think that Sophia Bush showed some great acting, and I like being in doubt about what's going to happened, because her speech at the end could have changed the child-services' lady's mind. I especially liked the end of the episode where she is picking up Jamie, she hugs him and starts crying, which emphasizes the fact that she really wanted to adopt a child, but was just denied it.

    It seemed like they were missing a character, so why not having the creator/writer of the Show just stepped in instead, so that Peyton also had someone to talk to? It just seemed way too unrealistic, first of all I could not stop thinking about the fact that he was the creator of OTH and his not so great acting didn't really help either. And why should Peyton open up to that guy? I don't really remember them as ever being close, to be honest I don't really remember him at all.

    It is a drama-show, so give us some drama, give us a new villain, since Brook has fired her mom and Dan is going all soft, something is just missing.moreless

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  • Back to its worst, boring, soppy and really, pointless.

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    Christ was this soppy and I hate soppy. I know Tree Hill is like that sometimes but what was the point here. Nothing happened at all, everyone just spoke about there problems, ones we've been watching and therefore know about, oh how dull.

    Andy and Lucas, don't care and never will for Andy. Just says annoying cheesy lines. Plus, what was with the stubble, get over themselves already. Peyton and Max, was okay for a minute, then soppy, soppy, soppy. he whole ' you think about him, Lucas' 'every day' CRAP!

    Dan was an ok story, not really interested. Brooke was strangely the most entertaining person, least annoying, least soppy. Some very soppy Nathan/Haley stuff, again alright. there therapist was okay, a tad annoying.

    Basically this was everything I hate about One Tree Hill. I did like the song at the end.moreless

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  • Season 5, Episode 13.

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    Lucas is distraught after being being dumped at the altar, while Nathan and Haley go to counseling to work out their marital problems, with surprising results. Brooke is being interviewed to be an adoptive mom. Meanwhile, Peyton gets a visit from Max. This was an OK episode. This episode was just so different, especially when Haley and Nathan were talking about Carrie in therapy. I liked Dan's conversation with Jamie when he was talking about looking "perv-y." I can't believe how Victoria would do that to Brooke! Brooke would be a good mom, and the adoption lady shouldn't be worrying about things she did in HS. I can't believe Peyton wants to sell her car and that Max went out of business. I liked those two parts of the episode, though. I just found it weird that everyone was talking with someone for the whole episode. Lucas/Andy, Brooke/Adoption Agent, Nathan and Haley/Therapist, Peyton/Max. OK episode, definitely.moreless

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  • Very insightful, but not much going on.

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    Nathan and Haley talk to a counselor on topics such as love, family, work, hobbies, and friends. They make a lot of progress and spend some alone time together. Brooke is interviewed by the adoption agency to see whether she is appropriate as a mother. Unfortunately, they turn her down, but Brooke says some inspiring words at the end. Peyton talks to Max about her life and Lucas. He has closed down the shop, but he proves helpful to her. Jamie loves Dan. Dan spends time with Jamie without Nathan or Haley's knowledge. Lucas talks to Andy. He had spent 4 weeks on the seas with Karen, Andy and Lily. Lucas says he loves Lindsey and he goes to her to talk things through. She decides to edit his book.

    This episode was great! I loved the deep conversations everyone had! I don't know what to think of Dan. He's really nice to Jamie, but he's Dan for crying out loud! I really want Lucas and Peyton back together! No more Lindsey!! I'm glad Haley and Nathan are working things out! This episode gets a 9.5 out of 10!moreless

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Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions

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  • Trivia

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    • The phone number on Peyton's "For Sale" sign on her car is 555-0163. Edit
    • In the scene where Dan is talking to Jamie after he got beaten up by Lucas and Nathan, we can see that he puts his hand on Jamie's shoulder but in the next shot it isn't. Edit
    • Dan got paid $750 a year from the state for his work detail while in prison. That's $14.42 per week. Edit
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    • Original International Air Dates: Denmark: Saturday, May 10, 2008 on TV3+ Norway: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 on TVNorge Latin America: Sunday, August 24, 2008 on Fox Life Greece: Saturday, September 27, 2008 on Star Sweden: Sunday, October 5, 2008 on Kanal 5 Germany: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 on VOX Edit
    • Featured Music: "Push Your Head Towards The Air" by Editors "Drink Too Much" by Tim Williams "Good Kind Of Crazy" by Brighton, MA "Home" by Foo Fighters "It Couldn't Be Me" by Jonathan Rice "Let Me Breathe" by The Hours "Little Bird" by The Weepies "Love Under Key" by La Rocca Edit
    • Although credited, Lee Norris (Mouth) and Antwon Tanner (Skills) didn't appear in this episode. Edit
  • Quotes

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    • Peyton: I come in here and I sit in silence and hear the echoes of who we used to be, and so I wish for patience, and grace, and the strength to just let him be happy. Mostly, I pray for the strength to not make his life worse because of what I want. That's the toughest part, letting go, you know? That's the part of grace that just really sucks. Edit
    • Haley: Hey, I was thinking ahh...not sleeping in this bed might not be so bad if you wanted to try it with me. (Nathan walks over to Haley and kisses her. They fall onto the bed and start to make-out) Haley: Do you got anymore of that sexy talk? Nathan: Ahh, about the kindness stuff or the sexy stuff? Haley: Sexy. Nathan: You have a serious ass, Haley James. Edit
    • Olivia: (asks Nathan and Haley) Tell me something. When was the last time the two of you did something really young and foolish together? Haley: With all due respect, we have been married nearly 6 years. We have a son who's almost 5. We don't get to be young. Olivia: Everyone gets to be young. Especially when you are. Edit
  • Allusions

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    • Lucas: So Peyton drives a freakin' Comet. What the hell? I mean, thank God the guy in the book didn't see a white Bronco. They'd all say I'm in love with O.J. White Bronco was the car used by O.J. Simpson in a low-speed chase covered by a dozen different channels. The O. J. Simpson murder case has been described as the most publicized criminal trial in history. O.J. Simpson is a former American football star and actor that was accused for the murder of his ex-wife and her friend. In June 17, 1994, he was supposed to turn himself in at 11.a.m., but he didn't. At 2 p.m. a letter was read by his layer, for many people it was a suicide letter, and later that day he was involved in a low-speed chase, when he was with his friend inside the car and apparently with a gun pointed at his own head. Edit
    • The episode's title is also the the title of an album by The Foo Fighters. On the wall of Peyton's office, you can see the cover of the album. Edit
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