| krisi1021 wrote: |
sequel90210 - I don't think there's any truth in that statement, "they are so great together, so happy! but when they meet any problem they just stop without trying to solve this... ". S1: Peyton did not say she only wanted sex with him at this point. Brooke said that. Lucas made it clear he wanted everything with Peyton, and this scared her, which I think it would any normal teenage girl that has fears of letting people in. She flees, and then Lucas then says that while he has "a deep emotional connection with Peyton", Brooke "is the fun girl" who doesn't have as much "baggage" as he applied to Peyton. Basically a nice long way of labeling Brooke as his rebound from what he wanted and expected from Peyton. Then, Peyton realizes she wants all of the same things with Lucas BEFORE she ever even knew Lucas went out on a date with Brooke. I can prove this, b/c while Lucas is out on a date with Brooke, which Peyton has NO KNOWLEDGE of, she's drawing in an addition to her initial art piece where Lucas says he wants everything with her. She's adding in, "And now we can have it", when she picks up the phone to call Lucas. He doesn't answer b/c it shows up out of area or unknown, and continues on his date. Later, when Peyton finds out about the date, she rushes to address the issue and her feelings with Lucas, only to find out that now, instead of just a date, Brucas is a couple. Hence her backing off. She ends up slipping, and falling victim to the desires of her heart, and inevitably betraying Brooke, only to push Lucas away ultimately to rekindle her friendship with Brooke. I think that was the right decision. Lucas, heartbroken AGAIN, turns to the first girl he can find, and rebounds with Nikki. Big whoop! It's Lucas' MO from his heartache from not getting to be with Peyton. S2: Peyton is very withdrawn in this season. She closes up all her feelings, and finds solice in Jake of all people. Like Lucas hid with Brooke in S1, I think Peyton attempted to hide from her problems with Jake. He was her emotional crutch of sorts. Inevitably it turned into something more, but I think Peyton loved him b/c she felt she needed him in her life to get by. I think she became TOO dependent upon Jake, which ultimately hurt their relationship in the end. She refuses to open up to Lucas, and the season ends with a shot of them on the beach, her upset over Jake being gone, and him comforting her, saying, "It's always going to be there ... you and me". S3: It was all Brucas like you said. Leyton maintained a great friendship, Peyton withdrew from both Brooke and Lucas, or at least attempted to, whenever she realized where her heart lied. Lucas persisted upon them being there for one another. Despite Brooke begging him to go one afternoon without talking to Peyton, he still managed to talk to her. Peyton reveals her feelings, Brooke hates her, and then takes it out on her relationship with Lucas. IMO, I think Brooke was feeling all the things she mentioned for awhile with Lucas, but Peyton's feelings only made Brooke act upon hers. I don't think Brooke broke up with Lucas b/c of Peyton love for him, or b/c of Peyton's confession of this to Brooke. I think Brooke was finally angry enough to address all her issues with Lucas, but had held them in so long that it was irreparable. Lucas, dumbfounded can't say squat. S4: All about Leyton. Brooke finally comes to terms with her and Lucas' issues, and she let's Lucas go. Leyton are happy together. They face the issue of Dan being the murderer, Peyton's internship, and Lucas' book. They had their little hurdles and they crossed them together. Peyton supporting Lucas rather than pushing him. That's what I love about them. Peyton wasn't demanding of Lucas, b/c she had trust and faith in their love. She didn't need the constant affection and to be reassured of their love. It was just there. They left on a good note. I think Lucas rushed things, and ultimately that is what ruined their relationship. Peyton wasn't saying she didn't want to marry him, or that she didn't want him. She wanted both of them to follow their hearts and continue pursuing their dreams and Lucas didn't. I think Peyton was offended by Lucas' disapproval in her choice to keep working a dead end job in the hopes of getting somewhere. I think Lucas misread what Peyton said, and b/c he was already hurt by her response, overreacted to it all. I think the fact that Peyton did show up to Lucas' signing proves that their love was meant to be, and it was strong enough to transcend time and distance. I think Peyton was too hurt and embarassed that she got her hopes up for what she thought was a reunion of their love, that she left without saying a word to conceal her own disappointment. I hate misunderstandings. |
I agree with and disagree, no surprise there huh. Your forgetting in season 1 Peyton reassured Brooke that Lucas did care for her and she was basically worthy of dating him. The biggest problem I've had with it, and always will is that she reassured her, and told her everything was alright and then went and cheated. If she had been up front about her feelings and honest there wouldn't have been any cheating. Yes, Peyton backed off afterwards but in some ways I feel like it was too little to late. She chose Lucas over her friendship with Brooke and I feel like once she made that decision she should have had enough guts to stick with it. The damage is done; once something is broken you can't say sorry I wish that hadn't happened and just magically have it fixed. Peyton made the decision to risk her friendship with Brooke to be with Lucas, so be with him. Own up to your decision.
As for Season 3, it always bothers me. I give Peyton credit for wanting to do things differently with Brooke and be honest but it still doesn't seem to ring true. Brooke had just shared a bunch with Peyton about how she was feeling about her relationship with Lucas and Peyton used that against her. That's not fair. Brooke checked with Peyton back before they started dating the second time to see if it was alright, to see if it was going to cause conflict and she said it was okay.
As for Brooke having everything build up and then explode, I agree it did. Lucas did seem blown away by this but I think it was obvious that Brooke still loved Lucas, those feelings hadn't gone away. We saw at the end of the basketball banquet episode, I believe it was, looking at pictures of the two of them, cuddly and loving. To me it was her remembering what they had and her missing it. We also know from the flashback scene in 5x05 that she still cared for him. At the end of the night, she said "I'm going to go and you probably won't see me for a while." That kiss brought everything back for her and how much she loved him; probably always will. "He was the one who was worth giving it all up for".
I've also always been a little suspect of Peyton's efforts in the beginning to season 4 to get Brooke and Lucas back together. I always felt like she just went through the motions so Lucas would believe she was this great person. To me, they always seemed lackluste at best. Didn't seem to me she had Lucas' best intentions or his wants in mind, but rather her own.
Not my best rebuttal but there's something. Let the debating continue!!
Brooke was right which is why I think it was good that she said that. He wasn't ready to be with Peyton. His impromtu trip proved that. He wasn't ready to handle the distance or trust enough in them and that their love could survive it all. He had too many insecurities regarding himself in which he let seep into his relationship with Peyton. He needed to get himself together and to me that shows strength of character. Sometimes you have to take a step back and find yourself and be okay with yourself before being with someone else and this was the case here.
