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    aless888

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    7.18: "The Last Day of Our Acquaintance" by Sinead O'Connor

    Airdate:02.22.10

    BROOKE LASHES OUT AT JULIAN As Brooke angrily deals with Alex's tryst with Julian , Lydias condition worsens, prompting Quinn and Haley to try to reconnect with Taylor. Clay is forced to deal with Katie's unsettling advances, and Nathan helps Jamie come to terms with Lydia's impending death. Lee Norris, Lisa Goldstein and Antwon Tanner also star. Joe Davola directed the episode written by Mike Daniels.

    Episode Promos

    PROMO 1

    PROMO 2

    PROMO 3


    Episode Clips

    NATHAN/HALEY

    OPENING

    BROOKE/VICTORIA

    MOVIE SET : Deleted scene according to the source


    As always there are no spoilers allowed in this thread until the episode has aired. Only speculation is allowed. If there are spoilers they must be placed in spoiler tags.

    Edited on 02/22/2010 5:31pm
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    ZSinnett

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    Both of the promos look really good. it looks liek the episode is going to be good in all aspects! Can't wait!
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    rush_86

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    why would alex mess with brooke like that when she claims she's rooting wor brooke and julian. love that julien throws brooke off the set( i assume) i cant take her moping around the set like a love-sick puppy, i remember when brooke used to be strong.

    also i wanna see vivian(haleys oldest sister) not that taylor and quinn dont bring their fair share of drama, i just think if this is lydia's final hour, they should all be there. am not completely sold on this episode(or this season) but i'll still watch....

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    lovingpizonica

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    Do you really think that Brooke is acting like a lovesick puppy? The promo shows her punching someone (probably Alex) in the face. Sounds like old-school Brooke to me!
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    Justlikeheaven_

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    Great Nathan and Haley scene! Ugh. its going to be such a sad episode. But a good one.
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    that70sshow2000

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    Nice message, Markie.

    Punching someone is the answer and will make you feel better, when your boyfriend and a skank sleep together.

    If Brooke punches Alex, I hope she gets arrested for assaulting the poor girl.

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    lovingpizonica

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    One Tree Hill doesn't exactly exist to promote messages about what's right and wrong.
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    that70sshow2000

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    Well they should at least TRY to have these characters behave right. Young people watch this show and Brooke/Sophia has A LOT of fans and she's the biggest role model on the show. Imagine the impression they're going to get when they see this.

    And to make matters worse, this will be the second time Brooke has punched another girl for messing around with her boyfriend.

    So they're sending the message, "Hey girls, everytime you get jealous you should go punch the girl who's causing that jealousy." Alright, at least it was okay when Brooke was in h.s. High school girls are immature and make hastey, quick decisions. However, Brooke is suppose to be a 25 year old business-woman now. At 25, she can't control her anger and jealousy? Sad.

    So not only does it send a bad message as did it in season 3 when she punched Rachel, but now at Brooke's age it won't even be understandable. It makes the character look bad, that a 25 year old classy, sophisicated business woman behaves so violently for such a petty reason (and yes, this is a petty reason). A TRUE mature, classy lady would realize going down to Alex's level is not the right answer.

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    that70sshow2000 wrote:

    Well they should at least TRY to have these characters behave right. Young people watch this show and Brooke/Sophia has A LOT of fans and she's the biggest role model on the show. Imagine the impression they're going to get when they see this.

    And to make matters worse, this will be the second time Brooke has punched another girl for messing around with her boyfriend.

    So they're sending the message, "Hey girls, everytime you get jealous you should go punch the girl who's causing that jealousy." Alright, at least it was okay when Brooke was in h.s. High school girls are immature and make hastey, quick decisions. However, Brooke is suppose to be a 25 year old business-woman now. At 25, she can't control her anger and jealousy? Sad.

    Dude, no offense, but I think you have WAAAYYYYY TOO much time on your hands!
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    that70sshow2000

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    Lol whatevr. Took like 3 mnnutes to type after my class earlier lmao
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    Justlikeheaven_

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    lovingpizonica wrote:
    One Tree Hill doesn't exactly exist to promote messages about what's right and wrong.


    Exactly.....there are other kind of shows for that. lol. BUT I am not saying the things that happen on OTH are right to do in real life, but come on, its TV! lol.
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    lovingpizonica

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    Justlikeheaven_ wrote:
    lovingpizonica wrote:
    One Tree Hill doesn't exactly exist to promote messages about what's right and wrong.


    Exactly.....there are other kind of shows for that. lol. BUT I am not saying the things that happen on OTH are right to do in real life, but come on, its TV! lol.


    Exactly! Television shows are NOT supposed to exist as a commentary on right and wrong, especially not "One Tree Hill" which is, by definition, a teen soap. Sophia Bush may be a role model, but TV characters are not. Expecting to be served a mainly moral tale with only a side of drama is dangerous in this day and age because it's just another version of censorship.

    Personally I'm pleased to see Brooke showing some of her former spunk, but I'm sure she's just going to feel really horrible about it later after she realizes that Alex and Julian didn't sleep together. I don't think they did, at least. Also, I'd much rather watch her deliver one of her former famed verbal smackdowns than a physical one, but...such is life.
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    stellarchick86

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    For once Im actually going to agree with That70sshow. Remember during Alex's suicide attempt and Millie or Alex or whoevers stories about bulimia we were all worried because tv viewers would see that and think it was "okay" or whatever. Obviously a suicide attempt and bulimia are much more serious than assault but it does carry consequences (even jail time if this was a real situation). So I cant really sit by and say "oh well this is a fake show, bla bla" because of the age of the viewers. If this was The Sopranos or something, with older viewers, I wouldnt say much at all because they know not to wack a guy or hit females or whatever the he11 it is they do on that show LOL.
    Edited on 02/17/2010 4:32pm
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    The bottom line is that it isn't a television show's duty to preach on questions of morality; that isn't how it works. Shows exist to tell a story, and avoiding things that occur in real life is an irresponsible way to handle anything.

    Also, I don't think you're giving viewers enough credit. OTH's main demographic is women ages 18-34. If people don't know the difference between what's right and what isn't, they aren't going to learn from TV.

    I only say all of this because I think censorship is a huge issue.
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    that70sshow2000

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    Loving and JustLikeHeaven: You both are the product of growing up in a society where seeing violence like this through the media is normal and found everywhere you look (as we all are!), so it's no surprise that you're defending the stance that you are. However, guess what? You both are kidding yourselves if you think this type of thing has no influence on people - even on a subconcious level. Don't you know there are scientific studies that show what kids watch on TV influence their behavior in real life, that follows them to even adulthood?

    Seeing this kind of stuff desensitizes us to when we see it happen in real life. Even for the people who don't actually behave this way, seeing it all your life through the media it still influences you.

    For example, if your friend came to you in tears and saying, "Oh my god, our friend Susie slept with my boyfriend Josh! When I saw her at school, I immediately slapped her!" Your response, as the friend, might be something along the lines of, "Well that wasn't the best thing to do, but I can't say she didn't deserve it. Don't worry about it, sweetie." Or if the girl is really immature she'd totally support the friend's decision to slap the skank.

    Where do you think people get this justification that others deserve to be physically hurt for anything out of true self-defense? It being shown all of our lives in the media, movies, and TV, of course! People get mindsets, behavior, etc from the society in which they live and what they're told and see all their lives. It's hard for you two ladies to see because you don't think about it, you're the product of living in this society, and you just accept the way things are.
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    lovingpizonica

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    Do you realize that the moment you make a debate personal, you automatically lose? You don't know anything about how either of us were raised, so assuming that we don't think about desensitization in the media is completely ridiculous. I, for instance, dropped out of medical school to become a graduate student in communications, so I spend every single day reading about studies like the ones you mentioned. I am passionate about the topic at hand because it matters to me, not because of some sort of social conditioning. Can you tell, given my indignance and knowledge base, that I really dislike being patronized?

    What you fail to realize is that studies condemning the media for being a bad influence are very often funded by religious or parental organizations, all of which have their own agendas in conducting the studies in the first place. Just as many studies exist saying that people make up their own minds about everything, but articles like that are rarely publicized for one simple reason: they just aren't shocking. There is nothing "scientific" about any of these studies because the only way to conduct them is to observe a small sample of the populace, a practice that will never be very accurate or altogether convincing.

    But that's not even the main point. I never said that people aren't conditioned to believe certain things; I said that it is not the job of the media to fill their TV shows with rainbows and puppies to make people feel better. As I mentioned, it's just another form of censorship to expect the show to cater its content for the sake of morality, especially since its main demographic is so advanced. "One Tree Hill" doesn't air on the Disney Channel, after all. Besides, organizations like the FCC and the PTC (also the source of many of those "scientific" studies) already police the airwaves enough as it is.
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    lovingpizonica wrote:
    The bottom line is that it isn't a television show's duty to preach on questions of morality; that isn't how it works. Shows exist to tell a story, and avoiding things that occur in real life is an irresponsible way to handle anything.

    Also, I don't think you're giving viewers enough credit. OTH's main demographic is women ages 18-34. If people don't know the difference between what's right and what isn't, they aren't going to learn from TV.

    I only say all of this because I think censorship is a huge issue.


    Im sure there are SOME younger viewers than aged 18 and those were mainly those I was referring to. Just like those who were under 18 during the high school years, Im sure others grew up and became high school aged and watched 'the adult years' in case something more like 90210 or Gossip Girl isnt their cup of tea (and even Gossip Girl isnt a HS show anymore). And as far as their duty to say whats wrong/right, I never thought OTH should be as true to form than any other show. I just dont think its completely excusable either. Im middle of the road. And Ive tons of research on how violence (okay not a punch, more serious violence, but still) affects kids growing up during my undergrad. Its just a fact.

    Anyway I think we should all drop it because this isnt going to go anywhere, people are always going to debate about these kids of things. I just wanted to throw that out there.

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    lovingpizonica

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    Fair enough, Stellarchick. One of the greatest (and most aggravating) things about communications and the media is that nothing is fact, which I guess we just proved here.

    Either way, I'm looking forward to the episode!
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    aless888

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    I liked the new opening clip. It pretty much shows that Julian didn't sleep with Alex.
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    lovingpizonica wrote:
    Fair enough, Stellarchick. One of the greatest (and most aggravating) things about communications and the media is that nothing is fact, which I guess we just proved here.

    Either way, I'm looking forward to the episode!

    There ya go. And me too!

    aless888 wrote:
    I liked the new opening clip. It pretty much shows that Julian didn't sleep with Alex.

    Same here. Seems your theory was correct, Aless! Awesome! And is it just me or is the Josh guy or whatever his name is, not cute? He reminds me of that Scott guy from American Idol (the blind guy) too much and he was not cute lol. So seeing him being all "ooh look at me, Im hot, Im the lead in a romantic comedy" = yuck. I even think Alexandar is cuter and thats really saying something.
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