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I personally think the writers should have just ended the show the season that Chad and Hillary left. The focus of the show was Lucas and his narrating the episodes as part of his book (them getting Nathan to do that at the start of this season is just not the same). I loved the first 4 seasons of the show, the next 2 were pretty good and then it just went downhill. The show introduced all of these characters that I just don't care for too much. I'm not attached to these new faces and I would much rather find out what Lucas and Peyton are up to than whether Alex and Chace will work things out. The show is just not what it used to be and it should have ended on a high note rather than dropping in quality and ratings to the point of getting cancelled.

I agree with that70sshow that another one of theae threads is pointless, especially since the show's almost over. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but to think that that this show suffered just because Lucas and Peyton left is kind of far-fetched. There wasn't anything left for their characters to do; they got their happy ending according to the writers. And even though the show was about the relationship between the two brothers, it's still not that big of a deal, because Natan/Lucas worked through their differences, and they get along. L/P leaving didn't just totally kill this show;it's not like BH 90210 (when Brenda left, then Dylan, then Brandon), or L&O:SVU (when Stabler left). To me, those are shows that suffered when the main characters left.

Comparing Clay/Quinn to L/P also doesn't make much sense. I don't think the writers were trying to unearth L/P 2.0 with those two, they were just introducing new characters. That's what happens in life when you grow up. You meet new people, and reconnect with family, and sometimes you don'tsee other family that much anymore (even your brother).

I don't understand how Haley/Brooke/Quinn are supposed to be the new Haley/Brooke/Peyton. Brooke and Quinn aren't really that close. If anything they're acquaintances because of Haley. Haley and Peyton didn't seem all that close either. In S1 they started a friendship, but in later seasons they never seemed as close as Haley/Brooke, or even Peyton/Brooke. I think any closeness that H/Pmight've seemed to have was forced by the writers (more scenes together)once L/P became a couple because Haley/Lucas are friends and they wanted Haley to get along with whoever Lucas was dating (they did the same thing with Lindsey). This also explains to me Haley's sudden and fanatic support of L/P when before, she seemed like more of a Brucas supporter in prior seasons(at least she did to me).

I go back and fourth between the 4 adult seasons.

S8 was good because it was very Brooke-heavy so I loved everything tied to her (the adoption, the babies, all the stuff leading up the wedding, the hurricane episode). But I didnt like how Haley didnt have much to do (understandably, since Joy was pregnant, but still), Nathan's SL with the teacher kind of bored me, I hated how rushed they made Brooke finally have a baby/her pregnancy, how much it focused on Chuck and other stupid things.

The beginning half of s5 was great, even though it was very LP-heavy but the last half bored me.

S7 I thought was great all the way around, and there very few filler eps. What I esp. love about it is that I felt like they acted younger during that season which was much needed. Love the ep where the boys go camping and the 3 girls stay back and eat pot brownies, the 80s episode at the school, I loved Alex's character during that season, loved the Lydia storyline and other things. A drawback would be the Grubbs/Miranda crap and the Julian/Brooke stuff annoyed me too because I felt like it wasted time. If Brooke was really that untrusting of Julian, she wouldve been so during that year flashforward from s6 to s7 and then we wouldnt have even needed to see it. They had been together for a year and a half- Brooke even wanted to get married for goodness sakes- yet we are supposed to believe that Alex was some major threat to them, even though Julian was surrounded by actresses in LA during that year?? Oookay. So I feel like if they took all of that out, they couldve had Brooke plan her wedding that season and do the baby stuff in s8. Also it was pretty Chuck-heavy too.

S6 was great because I loved Brookes robbery SL, Qs SL, Sam was pretty good, the movie SL, etc. There were a lot of filler things though that I didnt care much about, like the USO show one and other things. S6 was probably one of the only seasons where I enjoyed watching LP stuff though (like the one where Peyton moves in and the one where they are babysitting Jamie and Andre) so thats a plus.

So essentially each season has its good and bad so its hard to list them. I guess if I had to, Id say s5-s7-s6-s8.

As for the actresses out in LA, she may not have seen it firsthand (though Im sure she was around at some point because what else could she have done in LA?) but there had to have been a time where maybe they were out somewhere and a fan recognized her and came up to her and then hit on Julian at the same time or something. The s7 premiere made it seem like they were this "hot couple" like a Brad and Angelina or something so Im sure girls hitting on him was not a surprise.

If they insisted on bringing up Brookes trust issues again, then they couldve done that at the same time that she was planning the wedding. It would be more dramatic if there was a time where she thought maybe she should push the wedding off or if you think youre fiance is cheating rather than just your boyfriend rather than have that be her only storyline in s7. Even her trust issues with Lucas in s3 didnt take the whole season and she was older and wisher in s7, and Julian wasnt Lucas so it wasnt like she was going for round 3.

I'll give a simple answer. because I don't feel like writing something really long.

No. However, my answer isn't solely because of Lucas and Peyton leaving. Season 6 was bad. I would have liked the show to have ended with just one bad season and the original gang together. The show now feels like a spin off to me, and in terms of quality it doesn't even come close to being as good as the first 4 seasons. Sometimes I watch reruns of the earlier seasons and it's so surprising how different the show is. When Brooke and Haley have a scene together it's amazing because I get a taste of what the show used to be (and sadly there are very few of those moments). I feel like there are so many storylines that are recycled from previous seasons (psychos, love triangles, Chris Keller convincing girls to go on tour...). If the show was on any other network it wouldn't have made it this far, and this has been a blessing and a curse. We're lucky we got season 4 and 5, but the show would have been better without the last few seasons.

I know I probably have the minority opinion because the majority of the people who come to the boards are fans of the show that are still watching the show because they enjoy it. I also know that there are a bunch of fans that quit watching the show because of the drop in quality, and it isn't because they're not true fans. It's because the show isn't the show they loved anymore. I'm still watching (although honestly I have only seen about half of season 7 and 8 ) because my sisters watch it, and after all these years I'm invested in what happens to Brooke, Haley and Nathan.