One Tree Hill

Season 4 Episode 3

Good News For People Who Love Bad News

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Aired Wednesday 8:00 PM Oct 11, 2006 on The CW
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Peyton spends more time getting to know her newfound brother, Derek. Meanwhile, Lucas gives up on his love for Brooke and Rachel tries to start a romance with Nathan.

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  • Not crazy about some storylines...

    7.5
    These storylines aren't as strong as the last season so far, which makes Good News for People Who Love Bad News the second episode in the season to be a bit average.



    Peyton meeting her brother Derek is one of the more interesting storylines that I know is going to get much darker as episodes go on. BUT the ending, with him being revealed to have hundreds of pictures of Peyton, was shocking and a nice cliffhanger. Funnily enough he did seem alright until that point. Mouth's rant to him about hating the new guys was amusing.



    The pregnancy arc between Brooke and Haley is interesting, and even though I know who it turns out to be, it's still something I enjoyed throughout the episode. I like the growing feud between Rachel and Haley but her trying to get with Nathan is just a little irritating. BUT I loved how Brooke told her to back off. And this whole thing with Keith being under water is silly too. Though it's out of no whree I quite like how Karen and Dan are getting along better - he seems different this season.



    Skills joining the team was good and quite funny, nice to see him being a bigger part to the show.



    So good, but needs to get better.



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  • Skills First Game

    9.0
    Skills in now a Raven and plays in his first game. He was totally awesome!! Nathan is still struggling with what happened under the water. He believes Keith saved him and talks to Rachel about it to see if she saw anything. Rachel is hitting on Nathan. She seriously needs to find a new family tree. First Lucas, then Nathan's Uncle Cooper and now Nathan. Please move on!!



    Lucas is missing being on the team. Peyton has been spending time getting to know her "brother". (sorry but because I know how it turns out I have to use the quotes) He seems really cool. I love that Mouth got all angry there being another new guy in town. But the end with all those pictures was creepy.



    And Rachel tells Brooke she knows she is pregnant which Brooke denies.moreless
  • Season 4, Episode 3.

    10
    Great episode! Peyton is starting a friendship with her brother, which I liked. Brooke getting her revenge was pretty great. She kissed Derek, thinking he was Peyton's date. When Peyton told her, she made an uncalled for remark that her mother slept around more than she did. I like the little Brooke/Peyton war. I like that Rachel is going after a married Nathan. There are such great storylines on this show. I'm glad I started watching. I can't wait to collect the DVDs, and watch the season 6 premiere (the final season) on September 1. Great episode of a great show. It all fits in perfectly.moreless
  • The Ravens come back!

    9.5
    Skills plays in his first game and he is really good. The Ravens win! Nathan is still shook up about the accident. Dan awards him a valor award. Rachel comes onto Nathan. Haley is jealous. Lucas realizes that he isn't the guy for Brooke. Peyton spends time with her half-brother, Derek. He seems cool. Mouth is tired of girls calling him a good friend. Rachel thinks that Brooke is pregnant. Derek is stalking Peyton, as we see tons of pictures of her in his room from before they met. Dan wants Young Keith to stop haunting him.



    This episode was great! The ending was creepy with Derek. Very weird. Skills seemed a little cocky after the game though. This episode gets a 9.5 out of 10!moreless
  • To bad for bad news

    10
    Very good episode with everything in it! I really like it ...What will happen with Brooke I'm so concern...i hoped the child would be Haley's but she is the "lucky one"! :(



    This new guy..at the beginning I thought he is so sweet but I was wrong! What is it with him? And the biggest question did Ellie knew about his "passion"? If yes why would she wanted for them to meet?!?!?



    I liked what Mouth sad: he wished everything remain like it was in the past, that's what I often think! Sometimes things were better in the past but I always forget that this present will be the past of tomorrow... important is the present!!! Live it!



    Pay more attention for those which are near me..."Just think you could be a big part of someone else's life, and not even know it" (so true!!!)moreless
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Antwon Tanner

Antwon “Skills” Taylor

Barry Corbin

Barry Corbin

Coach "Whitey" Durham

Bethany Joy Lenz

Bethany Joy Lenz

Haley James-Scott

Chad Michael Murray

Chad Michael Murray

Lucas Scott

Hilarie Burton

Hilarie Burton

Peyton Sawyer

James Lafferty

James Lafferty

Nathan Scott

Kellan Rhude

Kellan Rhude

Scorekeeper (Uncredited)

Guest Star

Kassie Hight

Kassie Hight

Student (Uncredited)

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Ashlea Wiest

Ashlea Wiest

Ravens Cheerleader (Uncredited)

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Matt Barr

Matt Barr

Ian "Psycho Derek" Banks)

Recurring Role

Bevin Prince

Bevin Prince

Bevin Mirskey

Recurring Role

Kelsey Chow

Kelsey Chow

Gigi Silveri

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Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions

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  • TRIVIA (7)

    • The house used for the party in this episode is the same as in the Dawson's Creek, episode "The All-Nighter".

    • At 6:35, as the camera pulls up away from Dan, the pole for the boom-mic is visible in the upper left. It hits a branch when it is yanked out of the shot.

    • At 6:05, as the old man starts to stand, the front of another camera is visible in the shot, at the top right.

    • Where we first see Derek's creepy room in the very corner of the room a lamp is knocked over and laying on the floor. No reason whatsoever.

    • If you notice when Brooke is yelling at Rachel she has the trash bag in her hand. You can see her throwing it to the ground, but then you see her walking away with it.

    • The scene where Mouth and Rachel are in the Gym and she tells him he's a good friend, the cast extra's behind them keep changing postions. Clearly this scene was reshot at least 4 or 5 times.

    • The scene of Brooke and Lucas outside the Rachel's beach house was a throw back to the beach party scene in 3.02. Lucas tells Brooke in 3.02 that he is the guy for her. In this episode, Lucas tells her that he is not the guy for her.

  • QUOTES (42)

    • Peyton: You know it's just too bad I ran out of time cause I really wanted to show you the place where I buried my prom date... kidding.
      Derek: Thank God, it would be really weird if we had another thing in common.

    • Dan: Anything I can do to help?
      Karen: Yeah, leave Deb alone.

    • Dan: I'm not doing anything.
      Karen: You're always doing something and it's never good.

    • Peyton: I just don't know if I want to do it anymore, get close to somebody so they can... leave again.
      Lucas: Look, on the contrary to what might be written on your wall, people don't always leave. All right, I mean, last time I checked I'm still here, so is Nathan, Haley... Brooke? Okay, maybe not Brooke...

    • Lucas: (Handing Brooke a drink) A peace offering.
      Brooke: We're not at war.
      Lucas: Could have fooled me.

    • Skills: (to Lucas) Look, I just want to thank you for going to the White man for me.

    • Lucas: You know what Mouth said? He said that he wished we would have never left the river court.
      Skills: Do you think he's right?
      Lucas: I think things would be a lot easier I know if we never left I wouldn't have lost Brooke, twice, and Keith and Jimmy would still be alive.
      Skills: Well thats a real stupid way to think, dog. I mean considering if you would have never left the river court you would have never got with Brooke, twice, your brother would still be a stranger, and rockstar Haley Scott? She'd probably still be good ol' book worm Haley James. You can't hide from life dog, eventually you got to live it.

    • Haley: You keep going to that bridge. I never thought I'd be jealous of a river.
      Nathan: You know how much I like the water.
      Haley: I'm really trying not to be jealous and I want to be understanding, but it's really hard with you sneaking around.
      Nathan: I'm sorry.
      Haley: I don't want you to be sorry. I want you to let me in. Whatever it is, you know...even if it has something to do with Rachel. Even if you like her, I just want you to tell me.
      Nathan: You think I like Rachel? Haley, I was just...I was just talking to her about the accident. I just wanted to know if she saw him too.
      Haley: Saw who?
      Nathan: Keith. I think he's the one who pulled me out of that car. I'm nobody's hero.
      Haley: Why didn't you tell me?
      Nathan: Because I thought it would go away. I thought basketball would fix it, but it didn't.
      Haley: Nathan, your problems are my problems--I want us to figure this out together. And you're wrong, you're my hero.
      Nathan: So you don't think I'm crazy?
      Haley: No, I do not think you're crazy. You think I'm fat?
      Nathan: What? Of course not.
      Haley: Do I have a little head?
      Nathan: No, I love your head.
      Haley: So that's why you keep going to that bridge?
      Nathan: Yeah...and for this..(pulls the crackerjack bracelet from his pocket) I love you Haley.
      Haley: I love you too Nathan Scott.

    • Brooke: I know you were drunk for the wedding and in a coma for the honeymoon, but just to keep you up to speed--Nathan and Haley are still married.
      Rachel: Thanks for that update, I hate those cute coupley newsletters.
      Brooke: Rachel, trying to steal a girl's boyfriend is bad enough. Trying to steal a girl's husband is unacceptable! Especially when the couple is Nathan and Haley, they've been through enough!
      Rachel: Well, I'll make a note of that in my 'Mind Your Own Business' stationary.
      Brooke: No, because as one of Haley's bridesmaids, making sure they stay together is my business! She might be too classy to fight you, but I'll kick your little ass.
      Rachel: Oh, I think you're gonna stay out of it.
      Brooke: Really? Why is that?
      Rachel: Because you're pregnant! So...who is the father? Lucas?
      Brooke: You don't know jack unless he's one of those guys whose beanstalk you climbed the other night.
      Rachel: You gonna kiss your unborn baby with that mouth? You have been begging me to find out! You haven't been drinking, you're making maternity clothes, and uh I found the pamphlets from Planned Parenthood in your nightstand, what is that bedtime reading? 'The Story of the Knocked Up Cheerleader.'
      Brooke: You were looking through my drawers?
      Rachel: My house, my drawers! And uh, I was looking for condoms--something you probably should have been doing.
      Brooke: I am not having this conversation with you!
      Rachel: I was talking to your baby.

    • Haley: Why do you always go after guys you can't have?
      Rachel: Let me know if you see any.
      Haley: I would except I heard he left town.
      Rachel: I understand why you're so angry Haley, I used to be a fat chick with a little head too.

    • Lucas: What's up Mouth?
      Mouth: Sup Mouth? Sup Mouth? That's all you ever say.
      Lucas: You been drinking?
      Mouth: This party sucks.
      Lucas: Yeah, I know what you mean.
      Mouth: Yeah, I'm sure you do. 'Cause every time you tell a girl you like her she says what a great friend you are, right? Oh wait, that's me. You're the guy they all throw themselves at. Brooke, Rachel, Peyton... probably even New Guy!
      Lucas: How many of those have you had?
      Mouth: Counting this one? One.

    • Haley: (sees Lucas talking to a girl) You gonna kiss her now too?
      Lucas: Excuse me. What?!
      Haley: Brooke told me that you kissed Peyton, again. Luke, that's the dumbest thing you've done since the first time you kissed her. What the hell were you thinking?
      Lucas: I was thinking that she was dying. She's lying in my arm, blood is pouring out of her leg and she kissed me. And anyway, you know...do you really wanna go there?
      Haley: What does that mean?
      Lucas: What leg were you shot in when you kissed Chris Keller?

    • Bevin: (to Skills) Okay, big news, but keep it on the BLT. Brooke--broke up--with Lucas!
      Lucas: Thanks Bevin.

    • Skills: Yo! Look, I just gotta thank the brotha that helped a brotha get on the team and the brotha who helped a brotha score once he got there.
      Lucas: I lost track, which one am I again?
      Skills: So what's up man? How about some shots for the Scott's?
      Nathan: Look man, you blew up out there, but it's only gonna get tougher so you gotta keep bringing it alright?
      Skills: Look man, I'm gonna be so tight out there dawg they're about to be callin' me 'Zip-Lock'.
      Nathan: Just say you're gonna bring it Skills. (To Luke) And you. We missed you out there, man.
      Lucas: Well, you guys played a great game.
      Nathan: We still missed you.

    • Peyton: What the hell are you doing?
      Brooke: What?
      Peyton: Kissing Derek.
      Brooke: Oh I'm sorry Peyton, I can't help who I like. New boyfriend?
      Peyton: He's my brother.
      Brooke: You have a brother?
      Peyton: Yeah.
      Brooke: Oh, then I guess your mom slept around even more than you do.

    • Brooke: Welcome to my house. Did you come to steal it?
      Peyton: Uh, it's Rachel's house, and I'm pretty sure you stole it from her.

    • Lucas: Remember my first day as a Raven?
      Skills: Yeah, you played like crap. I remember walking around for a whole week talking 'bout 'man, I gotta take me a Lucas'.

    • Nathan: You know I'm always thinkin of you Hales.

    • Whitey: Crap! That pretty much sums up this season. You started out this year with a crappy attitude, you played like crap, you took my crap, you cleaned up rat crap from a crappy gym. Well all that crap's over now. At least you made it to the finals. Some of you are seniors, this is your last chance for a state title. It's my last chance. So get out there and play like the champions I know you can be!

    • Derek: That was the most morbid tour I've ever been on.
      Peyton:Yeah, well not everyone gets to go on the Tree Hill death walk, so you should feel honored.
      Derek: Oh, I do. Favorite part was the bridge where your friends crashed.
      Peyton: You know it's just too bad I ran out of time cause I really wanted to show you the place where I buried my prom date....kidding.
      Derek: Thank god, it would be really weird if we had another thing in common.

    • Lucas: Trade you my juice box for your bag of chips. And I'll throw in a cookie.
      Brooke: Peyton must really need chips.
      Lucas: Okay, how can I make this any clearer? There is nothing going on between me and Peyton.
      Brooke: And there's nothing going on between us, so why are you still here?

    • Derek: So Peyton, who did ya bring?
      Peyton: What do you mean?
      Derek: Well you don't strike me as a dumb girl. So, who did you bring for back up, in case i turned out to be a psycho?
      (Peyton looks over to Lucas at the table behind them)
      Peyton: Derek... Lucas, Lucas.... Derek.

    • Derek: Yeah... it figures the first time a cheerleader talks to me,we're related.
      Peyton: We haven't actually talked yet.
      Derek: We just did.

    • Lucas: You told me to fight for you, and I did. You never fought for me.
      Brooke: And I'm not going to.
      Lucas: Okay... I guess I was wrong... I'm not the guy for you Brooke Davis.

    • (Nathan walks up to Rachel)
      Rachel: I was told to say away from you
      Nathan: Since when do you do what your told?
      Rachel: Since never. Let me guess... you liked my last kiss so much you want another.
      Nathan Guess again.
      (Nathan shows her his ring)

    • Nathan: So you don't think I'm crazy?
      Haley: No, I do not think you're crazy.
      Haley: Do you think I'm fat?
      Nathan: What!? Of course not!
      Haley: Do I have a little head?
      Nathan: No. I love your head.

    • Peyton: Here comes the Brookie Monster.

    • Derek: Good to meet you, man.
      Mouth: What did you say your name was? Cooper?
      Derek: It's Derek.
      Mouth: Whatever, Felix. You ever been a girl's friend. It sucks. You know what else sucks. New guys.
      Derek: My name's Derek.
      Mouth: Right. Look if you wanna get on my good side...and you do, stop kissing Brooke! Don't even look at Rachel! And don't move here, cause nobody likes new guys, New guy. What was I talking about?
      Derek: You don't like new guys.
      Mouth: Oh yeah! Damn new guys.

    • Brooke: God, if we lose tonight I am gonna kill Peyton.
      Haley: We will win. Nathan's got that look in his eyes and besides even if we did lose it wouldn't be Peyton's fault
      Brooke: Yes it would, everything is Peyton's fault. She's like a cursed rabbit's foot. She's bad luck. (Haley laughs) I am serious, traitor girl. Do not take her side against me.
      Haley: Hey wait a minute, do not call me traitor girl, okay? I'm not taking sides I didn't even know there were sides
      Brooke: Well there are. You're either on team Brooke or team Peyton and nobody wants to be on team Peyton because their captain is a big whore
      Haley: Okay, but don't you think that's a little harsh, Brooke?
      Brooke: Oh you mean harsh like when they shoved each other's tongues down their throats?
      Haley: That kiss was so long ago.
      Brooke: Again, Haley, they kissed again.
      Haley: What?
      Brooke: They're sneaking around again too. You should really check out Peyton's webcam some time. (Haley glances at Lucas and Peyton) Welcome to team Brooke.

    • Haley: If you keep going to the bridge, I never thought I would be jealous of the river.

    • Dan: Alright, Keith, enough already! (to caretaker) Do you mind? I'm paying my respect!

    • Haley: I hate Rachel.
      Lucas: She's probably just... (trying to be reasonable then see's Haley's dark look) Yeah, I hate her too.

    • Lucas: (voiceover) You ever look at a picture of yourself and see a stranger in the background. It makes you wonder how many strangers have pictures of you. How many moments of other peoples lives have we been in. Were we a part of someones life when that dream came true or were we there when their dreams died. Did we keep trying to get in as if we were somehow destined to be there. Or did the shot take us by surprise. Just think you could be a big part of someone else's life, and not even know it.

    • Rachel: I was told to stay away from you.
      Nathan: Since when do you do what you're told?

    • Skills: I'm going to be so tight out there they're gonna be calling me "Zip Lock."

    • Haley: Hey, Luke, will you promise me something? No matter what happens you and I will always be friends
      Lucas: (in a mocking tone) Always... and forever.
      (They laugh)

    • Skills: You know you all are missing something out there right? Wanna know what it is?
      Nathan: Let me guess. You.
      Skills: Same old story dog. Whitey trying to keep a brother down. (Whitey stands behind Skills) Look, somebody gotta tell the old man that they don't call me Skills cause im really good at picking splinters outta my ass.
      Nathan: (to Whitey) They don't call him Skills cause he's really good at picking splinters out his ass.
      Whitey: All right... Skills, let's see what you've got. God forbid Whitey shouldn't keep you down.
      Nathan: You're welcome.

    • Rachel: So, who is the father? Lucas?
      Brooke: You don't know jack unless he's one of those guys whose beanstalk you climbed the other night.

    • Skills: You can't hide from life, dog. You got to live it.

    • Rachel: If you're looking for Nathan he's in my bedroom.
      Haley: If you're looking for a black eye, it's in my fist.

    • Nathan: I need to be tutored. I think I'm failing marriage.
      Haley: Did you try sleeping with the teacher?

    • Haley: Stay the hell away from my husband.
      Rachel: I was just giving him a proper thank you.
      Haley: Your 'thank yous' send people to the free clinic.
      Peyton: Ha.
      Brooke: What are you laughing at? Your 'I love yous' send people to their grave.
      Peyton: Well in that case, I love you, Brooke.
      Brooke: Whore!

  • NOTES (5)

    • There are two additional scenes on the season 4 DVD set.

      The first is a weird sequence in Dan's head as he is undergoing a CAT scan where everything seems normal to the doctors.

      The second is between Derek and Peyton at school. They talk.

    • Original International Air Dates:
      Italy: Thursday, October 25, 2007
      Greece: Saturday, November 24, 2007 on Star
      Latin America: Sunday, September 9, 2007
      UK: Sunday, April 22, 2007
      Sweden: Sunday, January 14, 2007
      Turkey: Friday, October 12, 2007

    • Although credited, Barbara Alyn Woods (Deb) didn't appear in this episode.

    • Featured Music:
      "Way Back Home" by The Wreckers
      "Play Hurt" by The American Analog Set
      "Point Of View" by Little Humans
      "Post Blue" by Placebo
      "Keep It Comin" by Black Toast
      "The Queen And I" by Gym Heroes
      "Goodnight" by La Rocca
      "Walk The Moon" by Belasco
      "Calendar Girl" by Stars
      "Won't Back Down" by Mat Kearney

    • There is commentary available for this episode through the OTH Writers Podcast. Mark Schwahn and Lee Norris take part in the commentary.

  • ALLUSIONS (2)

    • Peyton: Here comes the Brookie Monster.

      It's a rhyme off of the Sesame Street character, Cookie Monster.

    • Episode Title: Good News For People Who Love Bad News

      Good News For People Who Love Bad News is the name of the 2004 album from the band, Modest Mouse.

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