One Tree Hill

Hate is Safer Than Love

Season 5, Episode 17, Aired 5/12/08

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Lucas is crushed by devastating news from Lindsay, and when his star player is targeted on the court by the opposing team, his pent-up frustration boils over. Meanwhile, Brooke's baby undergoes emergency surgery, Haley reconsiders her decision to cut a new album and Dan learns that he is second on the donor list.moreless

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Chad Michael Murray

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Wow!!!

9.5

"Superb"

By VGFreak8, Oct 02, 2010 Report Abuse

Brooke is worried about Angie's surgery as she gets called in. Peyton and Lucas comfort her. Dan is number two on the list for heart transplants. A reverend is number one and Dan wants to be number one. Jamie finds his card to Dan in the trash. Haley apologizes and says she'll never lie again. Jamie gets to give the card to Dan. Mouth has a chance to cover the big Ravens game. Lucas, Skills, Nathan and Jamie's strategy seems to be going well with Quentin as point guard and the team shooting three-pointers, but at half-time, Lindsey calls Lucas and tells him that she's seeing someone. Lucas gets upset and attacks an opposing player. Mouth gets it on film, but when he is asked if he got that footage, he protects his friend but risks his job. Deb meets an online guy and flashes for him. It turns out to be Skills and they have sex. Mia is visiting and Peyton is so happy for Mia's career. Angie is okay after the surgery and Brooke and Dr. Copeland seem to hit it off. Brooke is so happy that Angie will be okay. Lucas seems to start liking Brooke. After Lucas gets drunk, Peyton takes him home. Lucas tells Peyton that he hates her and that she ruined his relationship with Lindsey.

This episode was great! I cannot believe the ending. I feel so so bad for Peyton. I also can't believe that Deb and Skills had sex...that's sort of gross. I love Mia and I loved her song at the end! Beautiful!! I'm so glad that Angie is okay now. I felt so bad when Jamie found his card in the trash. This episode gets a 9.5 out of 10!moreless

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Lucas is definitely his father's son.

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By inaus, Sep 04, 2010 Report Abuse

The ugly side of Lucas ... he is becoming another Dan. If his reaction to the news of Dan's heart wasn't bad enough, as the episode unfolds we realise just how selfish and cold he has become. His character is so ugly now, that it is hard to believe that his friends would continue to like him. He is full of anger and hatred.

Jamie is cute as always....but not believable. He is not the typical 5yr old and it is pathetic that they respond to everything he says and does as though he is a pond of wisdom. He is given way too much credit and it is getting really annoying.moreless

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like the rest of the season, its painful to watch

6.0

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By hank_bonds, Sep 04, 2010 Report Abuse

I don't understand why they would ruin such a good show!
This episode was pointless up until Lucas gets his DAN on with a TEENAGER on a basketball court. The first 20 minutes of the episode was boring, subtle and well pointless. Yes they were tying up storylines with Brooke and the baby but the storyline between Brooke and the baby was in itself unattractive. We like to see Brooke as a witty independent young successful woman with catchy one liners and a heart of gold, but the storyline of her and the baby does not give Brooke and Sophia Bush any credit what so ever, have they ran out of storylines for Brooke? are they desperately trying to keep Sophia Bush? Or are they trying to take Brooke to a whole new level? MIA... wtf? the way here "comeback" was portrayed was completely overrated, she wasn't a loveable character to begin with! it's not like anyone missed her, she didn't really bring anything to the table, I mean wow she has stage fright, wow she can sing, wow she can go on tour... remind anyone of season 2 HAYLEY? New ideas anyone?
Oh and she totally sucked at the Jeff Buckley cover... wow

LUCAS... so glad something REAL happens to him. Throughout the entire existence of the show, Lucas had been constant, that is constantly the same. Nothing ever changes with him; there has really been barley any character development. He is exactly the same as he was in the first episode of season 1! nothing about his character has changed, every character in the show has transcended to some new level in their life, Brooke: party girl to successful woman, Peyton: grumpy afraid teenager to independent record label owner, Nathan: pain in the ass basketball player to father, Hayley: high school nerd laced with sarcasm to mother and dream setter, Lucas: bruting underprivileged boy to bruting adult who is a writer (which we barely ever see him write) Hopefully with the 'pivotal' news he received will finally make him CHANGE! And become more human rather than a robot with an immortal personality.

PEYTON: meh pine Lucas.... pine... pine.... laugh... pine. That's about it. Oh and the 'I hate you' at the end of the episode, that was a shocker, and well written, if u were in junior year. Couldn't they think of a better line? I mean isn't Lucas a writer could he have thought of something a bit stimulating?

Overall i give this episode a 6, mainly because of the mediocre drama, unoriginal ideas, uninteresting dialogue however I give them credit to the little character development that could pave the path for Lucas to become something a little more real.

On a brighter side, the music selection was great, except for MIA's input. I understand what they writers are trying to convey to the audience, I just think they are missing the mark. I really hope the next episode is better, the season finale can change the whole way someone looks at the entire season. i really wanna hear your feedback, so if u have the time, email me.moreless

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lindsey really calls it quits, lucas looses his cool and nathan tries to get back to his former self...

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By rush_86, May 19, 2010 Report Abuse

brooke: blah... this storyline sucks a$$, there is no way the surgery would have been so spontaneous, surgeries like these are carefully planned, and sourgens take time off to perform them... highly unlikely that brooke would get a phone call in the morning for an "afternoon surgery" like it's a cup of coffee or something. that doctor looks way to young to be a surgen, i mean studying to be a doctor takes like 8 years (after high school) and then there is at least 5 more to become a head surgen..... am totally not buying it whatsoever, cant pull one over like that on me! that doc did look like a ethan though, although i guessed "matt" :S oh and really how quicly did brooke get attached to angie?? i mean she's had her for like a month "i never told her i love her" what the h***? you're not her mother, you do realize you're gonna have to give her up once this is over, right? and the baby in recovery was totally a doll, a life like doll, but nothig resembling angie....

deb/skills: disgusting, seriously disgusting.... i have no other words...

peyton/lucas: he was drunk and mad, mad at lindsey and he took it out on her. i know those arn't the words you wanna hear from the guy you're in love with(particularly when you've been trying to get him back with his ex, and trying to keep out of his way and hive him time and space)but he was drunk and venting.... i wouldnt take it seriously...even if it does hurt.
lucas loosing his cool like that was a little wierd, did anyone get a flash back to when dan grabbed nathan a couple of seasons ago, when lucas grabbed the kid?? he is supposed to be a rolemodel for the kids on the team, just cuz he got some bad news during halftime doesnt mean it's ok to take it out on the players, not very mature of him is it? and come on, how long has it been sinse lindsey left him at the alter, and how many times sinse has she told him that there isnt a "them" anymore, why is he still holding on to someone who doesnt want to be with him....?

nathan/jamie/haley: it's great to see that nathan is trying to get back into shape, and back in the game, loved the scenes with jamie in the beginning...
haley was very thoughtless when she tosses jamies card in the garbage like the(in the previous epi) there was no question about jamie finding it.

dan and his problem: why would a convicted murderer be 2nd on a heart transplant list?? i wouldnt put him on it, i wouldnt put any convicted fellon on a transplant list...moreless

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Finally an episode were i didnt get bored!!! man lucas is an a$$

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By therealmoose, May 19, 2010 Report Abuse

really liked this episode! basketball finally madea comeback and i found that really enjoyable to watch!

deb nd skills man that was so funny!! brilliant what a twist!

ok i liked the majority of that epsidoe! actaully most of it! loved where it took us with nathan/jamie and haley! loved the dan thing! i was a little disapointed with the devestaing news, thought it was gonna be a big massive storyline happening and stuff. but i still thought it was class when he said that to peyton. i mean what an ass!

anyways bring on the seaosn finale! this season has been very dissappointing but sure hey its one tree hill!moreless

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- Quentin's jersey number is 44. Edit
- Mouth's "coverage" of the Ravens game is simply ludicrous. For one thing, the camera he's carrying is an EFP - electronic field production. Though small and lightweight, they are not as high-quality as the ENG (electronic news-gathering) cameras that most any television station would use. Mouth is also taking notes while the game is going on, which is silly because any sports reporter would know to never stop filming - you never know what could happen, and you wouldn't want to run the risk of not getting it on tape. For this reason, stations typically send out a team of a videographer and a reporter to cover something as involved as a sports game. Edit
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- Original International Air Dates: Denmark: Saturday, June 7, 2008 on TV3+ Norway: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 on TVNorge Latin America: Sunday, September 21, 2008 on Fox Life United Kingdom: Monday, September 29, 2008 on E4 Greece: Saturday, October 25, 2008 on Star Sweden: Sunday, November 2, 2008 on Kanal 5 Germany: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 on VOX Edit
- Featured Music: "Don't Forget Sister" by Low vs Diamond "One More Time" by AutoVaughn "In My Arms" by Plumb "Elephants As Big As Whales" by PlayRadioPlay! "High School Is Such A Serious Thing" by Seth MacFarlane "News to Me" by We Are Castles feat. Keith Goodwin "Run (I'm a Natural Disater)" by Gnarls Barkley "Heart Attack" by Low vs Diamond "10,000 Stones" by Adrianne "Damn (Robotekks Remix)" by David Kater "Hallelujah" by Kate Voegele Edit
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- Deb: (sees Skills is her date) Antwon! Oh no. Skills: Oh yeah. Deb: You said you were older. Skills: Hey, you said you was younger. Deb: I showed you... things. Skills: (smiling) Yes, you did. Edit
- Lucas: So, uh, what's going on with you and Owen?
  Brooke: Nothing, apparently. What's going on with you and Lindsey?
  Lucas: Nothing apparently. Edit
- Brooke: I never told her I love her. I just... I never said it. Lucas: I'm sure when Angie's in your arms she knows it. Edit
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- Rock the Vote: Rock the Vote is a non-profit, non-partisan organization founded in 1990. Rock the Vote works to engages youth in the political process by incorporating the entertainment community and youth culture into its activities. Edit
- Mia: So am I allowed to ask what's going on with you and Lucas? Or is that like saying 'Voldemort'? Mia is referring to Voldemort from the Harry Potter series. No one is supposed to refer to Voldemort by name. Edit
- The episode's title alludes the song by Ben Godwin. Edit