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One Tree Hill

Season 5 Episode 5

I Forgot to Remember to Forget

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Aired Wednesday 8:00 PM Jan 29, 2008 on The CW
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In this flashback episode, memories are looked back upon. Lucas surprises Peyton in Los Angeles and they talk. He asks her something and is left with a surprising answer. Meanwhile, Nathan's temper triggers up after a guy reminds him of his cheating in high school basketball games.moreless

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  • Flashbacks!

    9.0
    'This is gonna get interesting' - too right Brooke, too right. I Forgot to Remember to Forget was a nice look at the past three years and great flashback episode.



    We learn that Lucas proposed to Peyton but she declined because of how different their lives are and because of their dreams. I've got to admit that Peyton was stupid in saying no. It made little sense and she wants him now so it was definitely a mistake. But I'm glad we finally know what happened. And then we saw him visit Brooke in a fun part to the episode. She made him realise he should focus on his novel and she went into business with Victoria. I do like their friendship as well.



    Haley and Nathan's flashbacks were actually quite sad because of how happy they were. At least they are on the road to what they used to be now with that slightly awkward but sweet kiss at the end. And it was nice to see Whitey again too. Lindsey is still a little bland but hey...not the worst love interest I've seen on a show (Rose, Grey's Anatomy anyone?)



    9/10moreless
  • One Year Later

    10
    This episode takes us back to one year after school and shows the start of how the characters got to where they are now.



    Nathan, Lucas, and Haley were all going to Gilmore College (love the name btw). Nathan was playing basketball and Lucas and Whitey were coaching. I loved getting to see Whitey again. I missed him. And they were playing in a championship game. I love that Lucas is living with Nathan, Haley, and Jamie. They are like one big happy family, except Peyton should be there, too. It's great that the Cobras won the championship, but it's even better that Lucas coached the final play and said the line about the fadeaway. It sucks though that Nathan is still dealing with the mistakes he made from season 4, but he beginning to realize that he can't live in a world of regret and "what might have been."



    It was so perfect that Peyton sent Lucas the song that was playing in 4x09 when Lucas told her she was the one he wants next to her when all his dreams come true. And I love that he just up and flew to L.A. to see her. The proposal was a bit of an ambush, but they should be together. It sucked that Peyton said no, but they didn't have to break up. It was great that we finally got to see what happened between them after high school and why they aren't together now.



    I love that we got to see the decision of Lucas' book being published, but it totally sucked that it happened right after he broke up with Peyton. This was the biggest news of his life, a dream come true, and the person he would tell first just turned down his proposal.



    I don't mind this Lindsey. Before they are together. She loves his book and I love that she used the the parliament of owls, murder of crows line that Lucas used in the pilot. And it was great to see that Lucas was the one who gave her the bamboo. When she gave it to Peyton and Brooke I wondered who the friend was that gave it to her when she mentioned it.



    And now Brooke. Her and Lucas hanging out was great. It showed how great of friends they are and how far apart Brooke and Peyton have come that she didn't know Lucas and her broke up. The thing in the hotel was a mistake that happened purely because Lucas was drunk and had a broken heart. I can forgive that. And we also get to see how Clothes Over Bros became the big empire that it is. Victoria helped her get there.



    I loved that this whole flashback was Lucas thinking about that time in his life and then Lindsey telling him that he looked so happy and that maybe he was happier then because he was. The fact that he keeps the ring he was going to give Peyton in the top drawer of his dresser and that he carried around for awhile afterwards proves he still loves her. He is just hiding with Lindsey.moreless
  • Everything that could have gone wrong did.

    2.0
    Lucas and Peyton or the very cheesy word, "Leyton": I really hate this couple, and there is nothing that anyone can say that would make me think otherwise. Peyton is acting like this damaged person, but hey, she's one of the most popular girls when she was still in Tree Hill. She's only the best friend of the former student council president and cheer squad captain. Lucas can't seem to decide who he wants and then suddenly they break up? I mean don't even those vulnerable teenage girls who watch this show get bored with their relationship? Or does CMM's eyes just leave you drooling, that's why they made Laguna Beach for you.



    Nathan and Haley or the very cheesy word, "Naley": They only started and sort of ended the episode, which didn't really involve them all too much, but they have just proven why they are my favorite couple on this show. They actually seem to be in love (Bethany Joy Galeotti is the only one I see coming out of this show with scripts coming to her door, she should just leave the show now) and ever since they stopped using the "Always and Forever," the two of them actually seemed to be more real, which is hard to find in this show.moreless
  • Season 5, Episode 5.

    9.5
    In this flashback episode, memories are looked back upon. Lucas surprises Peyton in Los Angeles and they talk. He asks her something and is left with a surprising answer. Meanwhile, Nathan's temper triggers up after a guy reminds him of his cheating in high school basketball games. I liked the idea for this episode. Desperate Housewives kind of copied and did the same thing in 5.05, but I liked the way both shows did it. Haley looked extremely hot in the first flashback, when Jamie said "ball." I'm glad Whitey has no other reason to return because I was never able to really tolerate him. Lucas has an iTouch. Woohoo! Hehe pretty good episode.moreless
  • Very revealing!

    10
    Three years ago, Whitey was leading the Cobras to victory. Lucas was the assistant coach and Nathan was the star player. They won the championships, and for the final seconds of the game, Whitey left the coaching to Lucas. Nathan makes the winning shot! Lucas is left with the head coach position. After seeing Nathan and Haley, Lucas realizes that he wants to be with Peyton. He goes to LA to see her. He asks her to marry him, but she says it's too earlier. They break up. Lucas learns that his book is going to be published. He goes to New York and meets Lindsey. He also sees Brooke! They have a fun night! Nathan and Haley take care of little Jamie.



    In the present, Lucas realizes that he still might love Peyton. This was a great episode! Haha, I loved Whitey's face when Lucas was shouting out during the game! Priceless! I really want Lucas and Peyton to be together! I hate Lindsey and Lucas together. I love Brooke at the end of the episode! The last line was great! This episode gets a 10 out of 10!moreless
Ed Wagenseller

Ed Wagenseller

Reporter

Guest Star

Southey Blanton

Southey Blanton

Fan

Guest Star

Shon Blotzer

Shon Blotzer

Co-Worker

Guest Star

Daphne Zuniga

Daphne Zuniga

Victoria Davis

Recurring Role

Barry Corbin

Barry Corbin

Coach "Whitey" Durham

Recurring Role

Michaela McManus

Michaela McManus

Lindsey Strauss

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Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions

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  • TRIVIA (4)

    • Goof: When Brooke and Lucas are riding in the hackney carriage, they are sitting with some space between them. However, in the close-up shots, they are sitting right next to each other.

    • Lucas: You should consider the Fade-away.
      Nathan: Fade-away is weak man.

      Lucas and Nathan share a similar conversation regarding Fade-aways in the episode "Spirit In The Night".

      Nathan: I don't have a problem with getting open.
      Lucas: Well you will with me out of the line up. Okay? The Fade-away is a great shot for creating space. You want to work on it or what?
      Nathan: I don't need to work on it.

    • When Brooke is bringing Lucas into his hotel room when he was drunk, she called him 'boozy'. A nickname that Dan used for Keith.

    • Lucas' e-mail address as seen on his iPhone when Peyton sends him the message is lucasscott@mac.com.

  • QUOTES (19)

    • (After a very drunk Lucas kisses Brooke)
      Brooke: Okay, I think that might be the second stupidest thing you've done in the last 24 hours. (Lucas looks at her aware of how right she is) Luke, we're not in high school anymore. And I love Peyton, and even if you don't wanna admit it right now, so do you. Okay?
      Lucas: I feel lost Brooke. I don't know what to do without her.
      Brooke: Alright. You remember when I started Clothes over Bros? It was right after we broke up and I was trying to mend my broken heart by focusing on my work and you need to do the same right now. You need to go out there and become the best person and the best writer that you can be and then you approach Peyton and if she comes back to you, you know it's meant to be.

    • Lucas: Hey, when did you get here?
      Peyton: I don't know, like an hour ago.
      Lucas: You know you could have woke me up.
      Peyton: Luke… what is this? I couldn't bring myself to open it but, uh I've just been sitting here thinking about how much I love you.
      Lucas: Well… I wanted it to be a surprise but uh. Peyton, I love you and I want us to be together forever.
      Peyton: Luke, wait okay.
      Lucas: I know it's a bit sudden okay, but yesterday was a great day. And I'm sitting on the bus and I realize that none of my great days in my life matter without you. You're the one I want next to me when my dreams come true. You're the one I want next to me if they don't. As long as I have you nothing else matters.
      Peyton: There's… it's just not as simple as all of that okay. I mean there's a lot we have to talk about.
      Lucas: I know that but we'll figure out all the details when we get back to Tree Hill.
      Peyton: Okay I know that's home for you and I miss it sometimes, I do, but for me Tree Hill is two dead moms and a psycho stalker and some really painful memories. You know I actually had to move out to Hollywood to get away from all the drama. So right now this is my home and the only thing that's missing is you.
      Lucas: Then I'll move here.
      Peyton: No god. Luke honey, Whitey believes in you and Nathan needs you and if I ask you to walk away from your dream you're gonna wake up one day and you're gonna resent me for it. The same way I would feel if you asked me to leave LA.
      Lucas: Peyton you get people coffee and deliver mail, you were doing more than that in Tree Hill.
      Peyton: Well I love you for believing that but I have to prove that to myself. I mean… you see that's the thing, and we both have so much we wanna do with our lives and were only nineteen.
      Lucas: And Nathan and Haley were a lot younger than that.
      Peyton: Okay well we see how easy that's been. Come on…in another year.
      Lucas: Peyton! We've seen each other three times in the last year. We go days without talking. We trade few emails. We've already grown so far apart. Who knows where we'll be a year from now.
      Peyton: Luke if you can't trust that our love can make it one year, I don't understand how we can be talking about forever right now!
      Lucas: You're saying no.
      Peyton: No! I am not saying no, I am saying not now. I want to marry you someday. Hey don't do that, don't pull away from me. Okay I want us to be together. I love you so much.
      Lucas: Just not enough…
      Peyton: Okay. Can we take this back? Can we just pretend like you never woke up, please?
      Lucas: I don't think we can.
      Peyton: I'm afraid that this conversation is going to end with…
      Lucas: Goodbye…
      Peyton: Don't! Come here. Our dreams are going to come true Lucas. My music and your novel. It's gonna happen, I know it.

    • Brooke: (to Lucas) It's the most time I've spent with my mom since the maternity ward, but I'm scared if I let her in 'Clothes over Bros' isn't gonna be mine anymore, you know?

    • Whitey: Lucas, you were always a great player, but you're an even better coach.

    • Nathan: (before the final game) Well, maybe after tonight people will look at me as a champion again, not a point-shaver.

    • Lucas: Alright, now listen up. Sorry coach. What's the game plan?
      Whitey: You tell me. You know I told you, someday that you'd be taking over. Well this is it. You're ready. Go on. Bring us home. (winks)

    • Lucas: We all make sacrifices, I mean for the first time in your academic career you're getting b's.
      Haley: Ughh, it was a b+, okay.

    • Brooke: Luke you still love her don't you? Peyton?
      Lucas: I gotta get back to Lindsey.
      (Lucas walks away)
      Brooke: This is gonna get interesting.

    • Nathan: Say it again buddy what is this. Huh? Ball. Ball.
      Haley: See I'm telling you, the kid's gonna be a rockstar and a very well behaved rockstar. Right? Hey Jamie. Guitar.
      Nathan: (mouths) Ball.
      Haley: Guitar.
      Jamie: Ball.
      Haley: Uh, no fair ball's so much easier than guitar.

    • Victoria: Maybe teen marriage is all the rage in Hicksville, North Carolina but I swear if you marry this boy I am going to have annulment papers drawn up so fast.
      Brooke: Mom, relax it was just a joke. (Victoria looks relieved)
      Victoria: Oh, thank God. You have far too much to lose Brooke.
      Brooke: And Lucas Scott was the one boy I might have lost it for.
      Victoria: You should be focusing on the company. Not boys with rings.
      Brooke: But what about love, mom? Isn't that the key?
      Victoria: In care you have forgotten, its called clothes over bros.
      (Brooke scoffs, as if she just realized something)
      Brooke: Right. Okay, I'm in. High end line, the magazine; I'm ready to take it to the next level.
      Victoria: Oh, I'm so glad to hear you say that. And I promise you darling, we are gonna have everything we have ever wanted.
      (Brooke gives Victoria a sad nod)

    • Brooke: Well, sounds to me like you gave her an ultimatum, and trust me there is no quicker way to paralyze a girl.

    • Lindsey: But can I ask you something?
      Lucas: Yeah.
      Lindsey: The Luke and Peyton in the novel?
      Lucas: No.
      Lindsey: Huh. I'm sorry, I was rooting for them.

    • Lucas: So 37 years of coaching, where does this one rank?
      Whitey: This would be number 3. Number 2 was your high school championship.
      Lucas: What was the first?
      Whitey: The first was the night Camilla agreed to join a scrawny kid just embarking on a 37 year coachiing career.
      Lucas: There's more important things in life than basketball.

    • Haley: (to Lucas) You're a part of this family, you always will be.

    • Whitey: Oh and no late night cyber chats with long distance blondie.
      Lucas: (laughs) Alright.

    • Lucas: (To Haley) All I have to show for my writing career is a stack of rejection letters. Besides when I see the three of you together, I just want what you guys have.

    • Haley: I guess that's life in the music business.
      Lucas: Yeah, I guess. Do you ever miss it?
      Haley: Sometimes escpecially when I see you chasing you dreams of becoming a writer, but I'll go back to chasing my dreams someday.

    • Brooke: (to Lucas) That diamond ring is gold!

    • Haley: You should never be ashamed of your achievements.
      Nathan: The only thing I'm ashamed of is the person I've been for the past few months. That's all going to change. I know we're not the couple we used to be, but we're going to get there, I know it.

  • NOTES (4)

    • Original International Air Dates:
      Denmark: Saturday, April 12, 2008 on TV3+
      Norway: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 on TVNorge
      Greece: Saturday, May 17, 2008 on Star
      Latin America: Sunday, June 29, 2008 on FoxLife
      United Kingdom: Monday, July 7, 2008 on E4
      Germany: Wednesday, July 7, 2010 on VOX

    • Although credited, Paul Johansson (Dan), Lee Norris (Mouth), Antwon Tanner (Skills) and Jackson Brundage (Jamie) didn't appear in this episode. This is the first time Brundage is missing in an episode since he became a regular.

    • Barry Corbin (Whitey) is the first former regular actor who appeared as a guest, but wasn't credited as a "Special Guest Star".

    • Featured Music:
      "Privilege" by The Temporary Thing
      "Weapon of Choice" by Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
      "Charlotte" by Air Traffic
      "Heartbeats" by Jose González
      "I Am Real" by Sofia J/Aperture
      "Loving You" by Joey Ryan
      "Where I Stood" by Missy Higgins
      "When You've Had Enough" by Wild Whirled #51
      "October" by Leopold
      "Cocaine Skin" by Broken Social Scene

      *"Heartbeats" by Jose González was also featured in the episode "Some You Give Away" when the Ravens won the State Championship and Lucas tells Peyton how he feels.

  • ALLUSIONS (6)

    • Just before Lucas changes his flight to leave earlier because he broke up with Peyton, the ticket agent says to the previous passenger:

      "Have a great flight to Hartford".

      Hartford is a town within the realm of Gilmore Girls, which Chad Michael Murray guest starred in.

    • During her dinner scene with Lucas Peyton mentions seeing Ryan Adams and Tegan & Sara in concert. Music from both artists have featured heavily in past seasons and Tegan & Sara have previously been mentioned by Peyton in the season one episode "Crash Course In Polite Conversation".

    • The iPhone was a continuity gaffe. In the previous episode Brooke's store is populated with Intel iSight iMacs (in the "current" timeline) ... vintage 2007. The iPhone was released 29 June 2007. Apple doesn't keep designs in any of their lines for 4 years, so a 2010 iMac (and iPhone, which Brooke also uses) that have exactly the same design would be highly improbable.

    • The name of the college that Nathan plays for and Lucas coaches for is Gilmore. Chad Michael Murray played another character interested in a Gilmore, Rory Gilmore from Gilmore Girls, which he guest starred on.

    • Lucas: What's wrong with the title?
      Lindsey: They say that about every book. I love the title. Murder of Crows... Parliament of Owls.

      A Parliament of Owls is a book by Beth Hilgartner, published in 2002. It was a sequel to her other book A Business of Ferrets.
      A Murder of Crows is a book by Richard Barrett, published in 2003.

    • Episode Title: I Forgot To Remember To Forget

      "I Forgot to Remember to Forget" is a country song written by Stan Kesler and Charlie Feathers. The song was performed by Elvis Presley, Scotty Moore and Bill Black.

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