Deb: I'm just here to tell you that I wanna help you anyway I can. Karen: You have done enough Deb. Deb: What do you mean? Karen: Keith told me you tried to kill Dan. Deb: It was a terrible mistake. Not a day goes by that I don't regret it. Karen: And my son went into a burning building to fix your mistake! I could have lost him the way I lost Keith. Deb: So sorry that happened. I have no idea that he was there. Thank God Lucas is okay. Karen: He is not okay, Deb! None of us are okay. And as far as I am concerned the only difference between you and Jimmy Edwards is that he was...successful.