The Same Deep Water As You

Season 4, Episode 1, Aired
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In the fourth season premiere, the residents of Tree Hill must deal with the aftermath of the shocking accident that left everyone without words. In the midst of all the chaos, Dan extends his help to Karen now that she is pregnant, Lucas and Peyton's friendship continues to grow stronger, and once rivals Brooke and Rachel move past their differences and manage to become good friends. Brooke has a difficult decision to make about her relationship with Lucas and Skills decides to try out for the Ravens.moreless
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  • Season 4, Episode 1.

    9.9
    "Superb"
    By Wanted23, Aug 14, 2008 Report Abuse
    This episode was pretty great. I didn't enjoy it as much as the third season finale, "The Show Must Go On," but this was a great conclusion. Cooper nearly died. Rachel told Cooper she was pregnant, but she lied, which I saw coming. Now, it's either Brooke or Haley that's pregnant, but I saw a later episode so I know who is pregnant. I knew it wasn't Rachel because if she knew she was pregnant, she wouldn't have had any alcohol at the wedding. Brooke gave it away when she started to say, "I'm holding it for..." So, that means Haley is obviously pregnant. It was very easy to pick up on, but great episode.moreless

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  • It was good!

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    By VGFreak8, May 10, 2008 Report Abuse
    After the tragic accident, Cooper surfaces. Lucas finds Nathan and Rachel on the land unconscious. At the hospital, Nathan and Rachel wake up, but Cooper might die. Dan threatens Deb for her murder attempt. Dan covers up the MURDERER written on his wall. Brooke breaks up with Lucas. Peyton finds out that she has a half-brother. Nathan is greatly affected by the accident. Karen is skeptical about her pregnancy until Lucas reassures her. Skills wants to join the Ravens.

    This episode was pretty good! It was a little under what I'd expected. I loved the season 3 finale, but this wasn't as satisfying, although it was a great episode. I'm sad about Brooke and Lucas breaking up, but I like Lucas and Peyton. This episode gets a 9.0 out of 10!moreless

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  • New season, same life...

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    By ro2n, Nov 24, 2007 Report Abuse
    I thought that this episode would make light in my head... but no... not even a clue...everything is much like
    after the final episode of the 3rd season.

    Who is pregnant? Brooke, Haley? I go on with my theory...Haley I think, but who knows? This is Tree Hill isn't it!

    I can't remember if the last time that person "Watchmewatchu" Brooke and Peyton were fighting, because if that's so, then it's Brooke... but if not?!?!?!??!

    Why is Peyton and Lucas getting along again? :( He should spend much time with Brooke but noooo!!! I remain at my idea
    Lucas is such a stupid guy...

    What is Dan looking for? What he wants from Karen? I can't have faith in this man...he was so mean since now... I love the ting Mouth sad:"We're always waiting for our life to begin"... so true, I found myself in that one. Never wait for something new, see what you have in present. They say never live in the past...but what about the future?moreless

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  • After re-watching this episode, and even though i know what happens i still got goosebumps!

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    By Hayley4Naley, Sep 15, 2007 Report Abuse
    WOW! I think this episode was so much better the second time around - if thats even possible. First off I believe Nathan and Lucas both looked so hot in this episode!! (as per usual, and it's quite obvious but i just needed to point that out). I thought Haley was really believeable with her actions and expressions during the terror of the whole limo off the bridge thing. And i loved it when she was all angry at Rachel - that looked really good! This episode has made me appreciate the Leyton relationship - Lucas and Peyton always come to each other for support and just to chat. It was so cute them hanging out together with the itunes game. So i approved of Leyton now lol. I also approve of Leyton becuase the Brucas break up was great. I know its heaps sad - blah blah blah, but i think it was a romantic break up. (even though Lucas didn't really listen to half of what she was saying - which i think kinda proves her point..) But it was a good ending. I also love how 4 of the women were thought to be pregnant - and the last sequence makes you think it's either Brooke or Haley, that was heaps interesting when i first watched it. PLus it also sparked a little something in Naley - they didn't get their honeymoon and Nathan's not letting Haley in. that would totally suck!moreless

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  • After a huge season three cliffhanger, I've been eagerley awaiting to see this episode, and I was far from disappointed. A fantastic episode.

    9.4
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    By michael_LB92, Aug 04, 2007 Report Abuse
    The thing that makes this this series-opening episode so great, is that it doesn't seem to favour any specific account. Instead, the episode appears to cater equally to each character's own individual storyline.

    The episode answers the burning questions that the finale left us with, as well as introducing us to some new storylines, and then succesfully wrapped up some of last season's loose ends.

    I'm sure most people were anxious to know whether or not Nathan was going to live, and this is question is quickly answered within the first ten minutes of the episode.

    Whilst I'm not completely certain on what the continuous flashbacks Nathan was having were about, I'm still interested to see what happens next and how it impacts on both Nathan and Haley.

    The encounter between Lucas and Brooke, when they broke up, was great. I found it was neccessary to break the pair up then and I'm glad the writers didn't keep prolonging this storyline.

    Once again, it was fantastic to see Deb and Dan at each others' throats. I'm very interested to see what happens next between those two.

    Karen's pregnancy, whilst feeling a little off and unnatural (possibly because Karen reminds me of my mum), will probably become a much more appealing storyline as the series continues.

    The scene between Karen and Dan made me curious as to what the writers are planning on doing with these two characters. The thought of Dan and Karen being friends, or even non-enemies, seems a little strange to me - and I would hate it, as I love the contraversy Dan causes as the most despised character on One Tree Hill - but the encounter didn't seem nearly as strange to the characters as it did to me, apparently.

    As for Peyton... whilst her brother storyline doesn't really tie in with anything of the other storylines, I'm still just as inquisitive to see what happens next, and the direction the writers will take her character.

    Lastly, I actually cared for Rachel a bit. And like I've already said for nearly every storyline, I am very interested to see what happens next, with Cooper and the detective guy, etc.

    Overall, this was a great season opener. The end of the episode makes me really enthralled to see what will happen next, in each and every storyline.

    The writers did an applaudable job at setting up the forth season, and I can't wait to watch the rest! 9.4/10moreless

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  • Trivia

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    • When Haley & Nathan enter their apartment after going home from the hospital, Haley notices the new mural. Nathan says it is the London Bridge. In fact the bridge is actually Tower Bridge. This is a very commonly made mistake. Edit
    • When Dan visits Karen you can see a sort of white pot. That pot was used in earlier seasons in Karen's cafĂ© as an coockiedrum. Edit
    • When Skills is asking Lucas to talk to Whitey about Skills joining the Ravens, the back of his shirt reads 23. That is the same number as Nathan's jersey. In a later episode Lucas gives Skills his old number 3. Edit

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    • On the season 4 DVD set, this episode is titled "The Same Deep Water As You Are". Edit
    • Although credited, Barry Corbin (Whitey) didn't appear in this episode. Edit
    • The doctor mentions to Nathan that his knee should be okay in a few days and then you see Nathan limping after he gets off the examination table. In the 401 Commentary, Mark Schwahn says that James actually hurt his knee on some stairs in his home before filming and James is truly limping not acting. He had just gotten out of the hospital before filming started. Edit

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    • Deb: You son of a bitch! Dan: No. No, that would be Nathan. You see, he's the son, you're the bitch. Edit
    • Skills: All right, I was kinda thinking about trying to go to college but money kinda tight right now, Anyway, I know you had to leave the team because of your heart condition and all that but I was thinkin maybe the Ravens could use another shooting guard. Lucas: You wanna join the Ravens? Skills: If it's gonna get me a scholarship. I mean, look, I know it's a long shot but you never know, they might actually make a run in the post season and somebody might actually get to see me play, you know, Small D2, Juco whatever, just wondering if you could talk to Whitey for me. Lucas: Absolutely! Skills: Hey, look, I just wanna try out, dawg. I'm not axin' for no special treatment or nothin' just a chance. Lucas: I hear you, man, I was there, I'll talk to Whitey. Skills: Cool, good lookin' out! Edit
    • Brooke: I'd like to talk to my boyfriend, alone. Nice job not hitting on him. Peyton: Luke, I'll get those CDs later. Thanks for the sex. (Peyton leaves) Lucas: She was just kidding. Brooke: Listen, I know it's been difficult for you lately, losing Keith and your heart condition and giving up basketball. I feel like I've been keeping you close to me to try to protect you from those things. Like I'm hanging onto the two of us for you, but not for me. Lucas: I'm sorry I kissed Peyton. I should have told you. Brooke: It's not about that Luke. It's not, I mean I thought that it was, but this is not about her. This is about me. I love you Lucas, and I probably always will, but we go days without having a meaningful conversation. And I used to miss you so much when that happened but it never seemed like you missed me. And I guess because of it I stopped missing you. I mean look at today, there was a horrible accident and you haven't even called me...it shouldn't be like this, Luke. I'm sorry. I can't do this anymore. Lucas: Brooke, I'm sorry. Brooke: Yeah, me too. Edit

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    • Peyton finds a note from Ellie in the album Houses of the Holy by Led Zeppelin. Edit
    • Episode Title: The Same Deep Water As You. "The Same Deep Water As You" is a song by The Cure off the album, Disintegration. Edit

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