One Tree Hill

Season 4 Episode 1

The Same Deep Water As You

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Aired Wednesday 8:00 PM Sep 27, 2006 on The CW
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In the fourth season premiere, the residents of Tree Hill must deal with the aftermath of the shocking accident that left everyone without words. In the midst of all the chaos, Dan extends his help to Karen now that she is pregnant, Lucas and Peyton's friendship continues to grow stronger, and once rivals Brooke and Rachel move past their differences and manage to become good friends. Brooke has a difficult decision to make about her relationship with Lucas and Skills decides to try out for the Ravens.moreless

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SUBMIT REVIEW
  • Season 4 begins...

    8.5
    The aftermath of the bridge accident isn't as fatal as one might of expected, but the season is at least set up well.



    The Same Deep Water As You finds Nathan, Cooper and Rachel all saved but lives changed. Firstly, Nathan seems traumatised by the accident, rightly so, and finds himself back on the bridge instead of going to sleep. Interesting storyline for him. Haley gives Rachel a piece of her mind, and the latter befriends Brooke, asks her to live with her and seems like she wants to change. This Rachel is a little too whiny for my liking.



    Speaking of Brooke, she breaks up with Lucas and finds herself living with Rachel. You'd never have thought this early last season but it makes sense. Her and Peyton are still not speaking either. And the writers narrow the pregnancy down to either her or Haley. I know who it is but nice way for the writers to trick us. Peyton finds out she has a brother and her friendship with Lucas grows. I do really like these two together so I'm glad the writers work on that this season. And Peyton's stalker is back. This leads to one of the most dramatic storylines if the show.



    Dan wants to be there for Karen. Deb goes back to drugs. Skills wants to join the Ravens. The first is interesting. The second is overplayed, and the third could be fun.



    So a good season opener that sets up stories for the season.



    8.5/10moreless
  • Season 4 Begins!

    9.5
    Everyone is dealing with the aftermath of the limo accident. Dan is dealing with the realization that someone knows he murdered Keith. While Karen sees a doctor to confirm her pregnancy and far along she is, Brooke & Haley go see a doctor who confirms that one of them is pregnant.



    I love that someone wrote murderer on Dan's wall and now he knows and we know that someone knows what he did. It will interesting to see how this plays out and just how someone knows about it and who.



    I love that Karen is pregnant. It's wonderful and while I know which of the girls is pregnant because I've seen the whole show it was really interesting to have this mislead of us not knowing which one it could be. I love that they make it appear that it could be either of them.



    And the limo accident...wow!! Still an amazing finale. I love that Lucas ended up jumping in to help, too. I am so glad that everyone is okay. Well, Rachel I really couldn't care less, but now we just have to wait on Cooper to wake up. Poor Nathan is having a hard time dealing with it, but he'll be okay!!



    It will be awesome for Skills to be a Raven. And Brooke breaks up with Lucas. Oh well. He belongs with Peyton anyway!!!moreless
  • Season 4, Episode 1.

    9.9
    This episode was pretty great. I didn't enjoy it as much as the third season finale, "The Show Must Go On," but this was a great conclusion. Cooper nearly died. Rachel told Cooper she was pregnant, but she lied, which I saw coming. Now, it's either Brooke or Haley that's pregnant, but I saw a later episode so I know who is pregnant. I knew it wasn't Rachel because if she knew she was pregnant, she wouldn't have had any alcohol at the wedding. Brooke gave it away when she started to say, "I'm holding it for..." So, that means Haley is obviously pregnant. It was very easy to pick up on, but great episode.moreless
  • It was good!

    9.0
    After the tragic accident, Cooper surfaces. Lucas finds Nathan and Rachel on the land unconscious. At the hospital, Nathan and Rachel wake up, but Cooper might die. Dan threatens Deb for her murder attempt. Dan covers up the MURDERER written on his wall. Brooke breaks up with Lucas. Peyton finds out that she has a half-brother. Nathan is greatly affected by the accident. Karen is skeptical about her pregnancy until Lucas reassures her. Skills wants to join the Ravens.



    This episode was pretty good! It was a little under what I'd expected. I loved the season 3 finale, but this wasn't as satisfying, although it was a great episode. I'm sad about Brooke and Lucas breaking up, but I like Lucas and Peyton. This episode gets a 9.0 out of 10!moreless
  • New season, same life...

    9.7
    I thought that this episode would make light in my head... but no... not even a clue...everything is much like

    after the final episode of the 3rd season.



    Who is pregnant? Brooke, Haley? I go on with my theory...Haley I think, but who knows? This is Tree Hill isn't it!



    I can't remember if the last time that person "Watchmewatchu" Brooke and Peyton were fighting, because if that's so, then it's Brooke... but if not?!?!?!??!



    Why is Peyton and Lucas getting along again? :( He should spend much time with Brooke but noooo!!! I remain at my idea

    Lucas is such a stupid guy...



    What is Dan looking for? What he wants from Karen? I can't have faith in this man...he was so mean since now... I love the ting Mouth sad:"We're always waiting for our life to begin"... so true, I found myself in that one. Never wait for something new, see what you have in present. They say never live in the past...but what about the future?moreless
David Bridgewater

David Bridgewater

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Terry Loughlin

Terry Loughlin

Doctor #1

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Debra Terry

Debra Terry

Reporter #1

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Michael Trucco

Michael Trucco

Cooper Lee

Recurring Role

Cullen Moss

Cullen Moss

Junk Moretti

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Vaughn Wilson

Vaughn Wilson

Ferguson "Fergie" Thompson

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  • TRIVIA (7)

    • When Haley & Nathan enter their apartment after going home from the hospital, Haley notices the new mural. Nathan says it is the London Bridge. In fact the bridge is actually Tower Bridge. This is a very commonly made mistake.

    • When Dan visits Karen you can see a sort of white pot. That pot was used in earlier seasons in Karen's café as an coockiedrum.

    • When Skills is asking Lucas to talk to Whitey about Skills joining the Ravens, the back of his shirt reads 23. That is the same number as Nathan's jersey. In a later episode Lucas gives Skills his old number 3.

    • It is evident that the new bridge scenes were filmed well after the original scene due to the trees in the background changing from being completely bare to full of leaves.

    • In this episode at the beginning when Nathan is in the car drowning he has a mole on the left hand side of his face. He doesn't appear to have this in any of the other episodes.

    • In the opening scene right after the Lucas jumps off the bridge, when they cut back to Haley and Karen, in the left side of the screen someone in a white shirt and black pants is just making it out of the shot but you can clearly see their elbow and one leg. This is about 4 minutes and 46 seconds in to the show and only lasts for maybe a split second.

    • Rachel's hair is noticably longer then it was in the finale.

  • QUOTES (29)

    • Deb: You son of a bitch!
      Dan: No. No, that would be Nathan. You see, he's the son, you're the bitch.

    • Skills: All right, I was kinda thinking about trying to go to college but money kinda tight right now, Anyway, I know you had to leave the team because of your heart condition and all that but I was thinkin maybe the Ravens could use another shooting guard.
      Lucas: You wanna join the Ravens?
      Skills: If it's gonna get me a scholarship. I mean, look, I know it's a long shot but you never know, they might actually make a run in the post season and somebody might actually get to see me play, you know, Small D2, Juco whatever, just wondering if you could talk to Whitey for me.
      Lucas: Absolutely!
      Skills: Hey, look, I just wanna try out, dawg. I'm not axin' for no special treatment or nothin' just a chance.
      Lucas: I hear you, man, I was there, I'll talk to Whitey.
      Skills: Cool, good lookin' out!

    • Brooke: I'd like to talk to my boyfriend, alone. Nice job not hitting on him.
      Peyton: Luke, I'll get those CDs later. Thanks for the sex.
      (Peyton leaves)
      Lucas: She was just kidding.
      Brooke: Listen, I know it's been difficult for you lately, losing Keith and your heart condition and giving up basketball. I feel like I've been keeping you close to me to try to protect you from those things. Like I'm hanging onto the two of us for you, but not for me.
      Lucas: I'm sorry I kissed Peyton. I should have told you.
      Brooke: It's not about that Luke. It's not, I mean I thought that it was, but this is not about her. This is about me. I love you Lucas, and I probably always will, but we go days without having a meaningful conversation. And I used to miss you so much when that happened but it never seemed like you missed me. And I guess because of it I stopped missing you. I mean look at today, there was a horrible accident and you haven't even called me...it shouldn't be like this, Luke. I'm sorry. I can't do this anymore.
      Lucas: Brooke, I'm sorry.
      Brooke: Yeah, me too.

    • Nathan: (to Haley) Today, for the first time in a long time, it doesn't feel like anything's going to be okay.

    • Rachel: I really screwed this up Mouth. I mean, we were fighting and I grabbed the wheel. I have to get out of here.
      Mouth: You can't run away from this Rachel.
      Rachel: He could die Mouth.
      Mouth: Listen to me, you know how you said you were going to tell everyone you opened the time capsule and I said not to, that you should burry it? I was wrong. And until you face all the mistakes you've made, you'll never change.
      Rachel: People don't change Mouth.
      Mouth: But they can, they just don't because it's easier not to. We're always waiting for our lives to begin and figuring we'll be someone else someday. But after this accident, and losing Jimmy, and Keith, what are we waiting for? All we have is now Rachel. Don't run from this.

    • Lucas: Brooke kind of found out that I kissed Peyton, again.
      Skills: Well, it's a good thing you're in a hospital, 'cause your sorry ass in bad shape bro.

    • Lucas: (to Nathan) So what, wedding wasn't enough. You needed even more attention?

    • Karen: We need to talk about this pregnancy.
      Lucas: Keith would be so happy. I mean, I can't believe you're having his baby.
      Karen: I'm not talking about that pregnancy. Whose test did you find at the reception? Was it Brooke's?
      Lucas: I'm not sure yet.
      Karen: I'm your mother Lucas, and considering that I was pregnant at 17, I just want to know if history is repeating itself with my son and his girlfriend.

    • (Peyton and Lucas in Lucas's room talking about music like in the good old days)
      Lucas: When was the last time we just hung out?
      Peyton: Just the two of us? I don't know. Probably the day we hid out in the library and I got shot in the leg.

    • Karen: I am all for living life to the fullest, but can this day just be over already?
      Lucas: Mom, you loved Dan, right? In high school?
      Karen: Oddly, yes.
      Lucas: Okay, I know you probably can't answer this for me, but what did you do when he didn't love you back? How did you get over it?
      Karen: When I do, I'll get back to you.

    • Lucas: (voiceover) My name is Lucas Scott. I'm a senior at Tree Hill High School. I play basketball -- at least I used to. I have a girlfriend -- at least I used to. And I have a best friend. Tree Hill is just a place somewhere in the world. Maybe it's a lot like your world, maybe it's nothing like it. But if you look closer, you might see someone like you. Someone trying to find their way. Someone trying to find their place. Someone trying to find their self. Sometimes it seems like you are the only one in the world who's struggling, who's frustrated, unsatisfied, barely getting by. But that feeling's a lie. And if you just hold on, just find the courage to face it all for another day, someone or something will find you and make it all okay. Because we all need a little help sometimes-someone to helps us hear the music in their world, to remind us that it won't always be this way. That someone is out there. And that someone will find you.
      (At Lucas' final words we see a shot of Lucas showing up at Peyton's and they hug)

    • Lucas: (voiceover) I guess I should have said something, anything. I mean for a guy who wants to be a writer, it suddenly seemed like no words had ever been written. When someone tells you that they somehow stopped missing you, you're pretty much screwed no matter what you say. See, but there had to be something right? Something that no one had ever said in the history of the world, something that could change this. That wasn't it.

    • Lucas:(voiceover) Dan Scott is many things: the mayor of Tree Hill, the once great hight school basketball player and Nathan's father. He's also my father, but he never claimed me. Believe it or not, I got the better end of the deal. I was instead raised by my mom with the help of my Uncle Keith, until Keith's life was taken.

    • Lucas: (voiceover) The things that take 14 minutes: boiling an ostrich egg, Michael Jackson's Thriller video, it also takes 14 minutes to get from the Melina Bridge to Tree Hill Hospital. In those 14 minutes, three lives hung in the balance. For the rest of us there was nothing to do but wait. I guess that's why they call it the waiting room.

    • Dan: Karen, would it be the strangest thing if we grab a cup of coffee sometimes.
      Karen: I have given up coffee through my pregnancy.
      Dan: Movie then?
      Karen: No!
      Dan: You have given up movies too?
      Karen: No. I just don't want to go with you.

    • Brooke: Okay, so mission accomplished. I got those scissors you wanted, some music, a couple of outfits, which remind me, clothes over bros should totally design hospital gowns because I would not be caught dead in that.
      (Rachel looks down)
      Brooke: Sorry.
      Rachel: Do you think people can change, Brooke? I mean, truly change?
      Brooke: Well, I'd like to say yes, but honestly? I don't really think people can change. You know, at the end of the day, you are who you are. And at the end of the day, it's probably who you've always been.
      Rachel: What if who you've been is pretty horrible?
      Brooke: I brought you back your house keys. It's a very nice house. Big rooms, no parents - I used to have one of those.
      Rachel: Keep 'em.
      (Brooke looks inquisitive)
      Rachel: I mean, you moved out of Peyton's place, right? You might as well crash at my house. Unless you don't want to.
      Brooke: So, this is what it looks like when hell freezes over?
      (smiles from both)
      Brooke: Thank you.

    • Brooke: I love you, Lucas, and I probably always will... but we go days without having a meaningful conversation... and I used to miss you so much when that happened... but it never seemed like you missed me. And I guess because of it I stopped missing you. I mean look at today...
      Lucas: (Thinking) I guess I should've said something... anything... I mean, for a guy who wants to be a writer, it suddenly seemed like no words had ever been written. But when someone tells you that they somehow stopped missing you, you're pretty much screwed, no matter what you say.

    • (Brooke is coming into Rachel's hospital room, she seems to be sleeping)
      Rachel (eyes closed) : Slut
      Brooke: Bitch
      Rachel : Whore
      (Brooke comes closer to the bed, Rachel is awake)
      Rachel: Well, I know I'm not in Heaven cause they wouldn't have let Brooke Davis's kinky ass through the gates.
      Brooke: And your ass wouldn't fit, at least not the old one. How are you?

    • Skills and Lucas are in the hospital. They see Peyton coming toward them.
      Skills: Hey, try not to make out with her, please!

    • Rachel: Maybe the age difference doesn't matter.
      Cooper: It does matter, all right?? Now listen to me we're going to take this limousine back to the wedding and you and I never happened.
      Rachel: Is there anything I can say to keep you Cooper??
      Cooper: No I'm sorry there's not.
      Rachel: Well that's too bad because there's something I have to tell you. I'm pregnant.
      Cooper: I don't believe you.

    • Nathan: (laughing)
      Haley: What??
      Nathan: I can't believe that Rachel got drunk and stole our wedding limo.
      Haley: I can't believe your Uncle Cooper slept with Rachel..she's 17. What is he, like 30??
      Nathan: He must not have known, I mean he couldn't have known, right??

    • Nathan: Hey,um! Before the accident, there was something you wanted to tell me.
      Haley: I got accepted to Stanford.
      Nathan: Wow! I'm happy for you, Haley. Even though we just spent your tuition money.
      Haley: It's alright! We'll figure something out. As long as we are together.

    • Haley: Nathan, you're a hero. You did everything that you could.
      Nathan: Did I?

    • Rachel: They told me that Nathan saved my life. How is he?
      Haley: How is he? He's devastated, Rachel and it's all your fault!
      Rachel: Haley?
      Haley: I saw you in the limo with Cooper. You were arguing with him, weren't you?
      Rachel: It wasn't what it looked like.
      Haley: You ruined everything. You caused a huge scene at the reception. You stole the limo. And now everybody's life is worse because of you. Doesn't it even matter to you, a little bit? Are you going to change a single thing because of it? Nathan doesn't need your thanks and neither do I. So why don't you stay the hell away from us. All of us!

    • (Haley looks at the re-decorated apartment)
      Nathan: I was going to surprise you when we got back. It's the London Bridge.
      (Haley puts her hand on his cheek)
      Haley: Thank you.
      Nathan: It's probably a good thing we didn't go... I mean the wedding wasn't cheap, now we have new furniture to pay for and.... can't wait to get those hospital bills especially considering we don't have insurance.
      (Nathan has a flashback)
      Haley: It's okay. You're safe... you're home now.

    • Dan I guess you caught me red-handed.

    • Young Keith: It looks like I'm not the only one who knows you killed me.
      Dan: (talking to Keith's ghost) Shut up, you little smart-ass ghost.

    • Lucas: When someone says that they have stopped missing you, your pretty much screwed no matter what you say.

    • Lucas: (voiceover) My name is Lucas Scott and I'm a senior at Tree hill High School. Tree Hill is just a place somewhere in the world. Maybe its a lot like your world. Maybe its nothing like it. But if you look closer you might see someone like you. Or someone like my best friend Haley. If you're married and a senior in high school and not sure if your husband is still alive. Then I'll say your world is a lot like Haley's. Today was supposed to be the best day of her life. But its amazing to see how things can change in the blink of an eye. Or in this case 29 minutes.

  • NOTES (9)

    • On the season 4 DVD set, this episode is titled "The Same Deep Water As You Are".

    • Although credited, Barry Corbin (Whitey) didn't appear in this episode.

    • The doctor mentions to Nathan that his knee should be okay in a few days and then you see Nathan limping after he gets off the examination table. In the 401 Commentary, Mark Schwahn says that James actually hurt his knee on some stairs in his home before filming and James is truly limping not acting. He had just gotten out of the hospital before filming started.

    • There is a commentary for this episode as an episode of the OTH Writers Podcast. Mark Schwahn, Hilarie Burton and Lee Norris are the commentators.

    • Original International Air Dates:
      Greece: Saturday, November 10, 2007 on Star
      Italy: Tuesday, October 23, 2007
      Latin America: Sunday, August 26, 2007
      UK: Sunday, April 8, 2007
      Sweden: Sunday, December 3, 2006
      Turkey: September 28, 2007 on CNBC-e

    • Featured Music:
      "Matching Weight" by Trespassers William
      "Wrong Choice" by The Lovely Feathers
      "Don't Wait" by Dashboard Confessional
      "Everything'll Be Alright" by Joshua Radin
      "Within You" by Ray Lamontagne
      "A Message" by Coldplay

    • The set and furnishings of Nathan's and Haley's apartment has changed, to reflect where they would have gone for their honeymoon--London.

    • This episode was the first episode of One Tree Hill to air on the new network, The CW.

    • Antwon Tanner (Skills) and Danneel Harris (Rachel) were added to the opening credits.

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