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Orphan Black S02E05: "Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est"


"I'm not a monkey anymore. I'm a leopard." In our world, an eight-year-old girl telling her mother she's outgrown her ridiculously cute nickname and opted to be a fierce predator instead would probably result from being teased by a classmate at school. But this is the world of Orphan Black, where nothing is ever said or done without meaning, and where nothing is ever as easy or simple as it appears to be on the surface.

Over the course of a season and a half, Kira has proven herself to be an intuitive child and quick thinker, almost to the point where I've often stopped and wondered if Orphan Black's science-fiction story doesn't also border on the supernatural with regard to clairvoyance. Predatory creatures with opportunistic hunting habits, leopards are known for many things—including their solitary nature and their quick speed. They're stealthy creatures with the ability to climb trees, giving them a unique vantage point from which to stalk their chosen prey. They'll consume nearly anything they can hunt and catch, spanning several different species—including monkeys. Gee, if only we knew someone who displayed all of those characteristics. Oh wait, we do! 


Last week, I wrote about Helena's unpredictable nature and her proclivity for "solving" most problems with violence. I cautioned against celebrating these bad habits, and this week, after Felix deposited a freshly showered and clothed Helena at Art's thinking she'd be safe with a properly trainer police officer, she proved that I was right to be concerned about her status as Orphan Black's resident wildcard. She devoured most of the food Art had on hand, including sardines with mustard, pickles, powdered donuts, and hardboiled eggs. Then she broke free of her restraints and returned to Maggie Chen's storage unit to collect her favorite weapon—the sniper rifle—to eliminate Rachel. "Rachel is problem. I fix problem," she told Sarah.

Fortunately (or unfortunately?), Sarah was able to use Helena's desire to feel needed and loved as a means of talking her down from her ledge before she could put a bullet through Rachel mid-coitus with Hot Paul—another character who's turned out to be a wildcard, as his loyalties appear to lie primarily with his own ass (and abs). While I'll still never fully trust Helena—she's broken, and much like the leopard, she might never be able to change her spots—this episode belonged to her. From hissing at Felix to cutting the Barbie's hair to make it look like Rachel, we've got give the woman credit for originality; she brings life into a world that could easily give in to its darkness and exist in a grim and desperate reality. Some fans weren't happy to Helena return at the start of the season, but even though I don't necessarily belong to the school that worships at her feet, I expect she'll eventually help Sarah as much as Sarah's going to help her. It's just going to take time before we really see it.


Hot Paul returned this week with allegiances so fluid that I doubt even Kira would be able to pinpoint what's happening there. He appeared to have aligned himself with both Rachel and Leekie this week, but in reality, it's probably more complicated than that. Once Beth's death was out in the open, his role as a monitor was no longer necessary, and he's been shuffled around Dyad since then, first as Rachel's bitch boy and now as her monitor. "It's a promotion," Rachel said, but I think bitch boy to sex toy isn't really a move I'd like to make, personally. However, I will give Rachel a high-five for bringing Hot Paul's abs back in to the picture, because Orphan Black's been failing Sexy 101 this season, what with all the mysterious religious fanatics stealing Helena's eggs, Cosima's illness, and Alison's alcoholism. Yes, those abs are a welcome reprieve from all the darkness that is enveloping the clones.

That said, Paul's actions in this episode were frustrating, but not necessarily surprising. He's doing everything Rachel says, including framing Felix for the murder of a police officer. He's also letting Rachel go all dominatrix on him in the bedroom, which UGH. From where I sit, there are two explanations for Paul's behavior. The first is that Paul's afraid that if he makes a misstep, Dyad might decide he's no longer of use to them and simply put a bullet in his brain. Even if Dyad didn't have information to hold over his head, they can't just let him walk away at this point, given everything he knows. So either he keeps his mouth shut and follows orders, or he's dead. The second possible explanation—and I wouldn't put it past Orphan Black to go this route, though I hope it doesn't—is that Paul is using his close proximity to Rachel to infiltrate Dyad on Sarah's behalf and help her from within. 


We've seen no evidence of this—and I much prefer the first option because it makes Paul feel more human, in the sense that it's our nature to selfishly look out for ourselves—but Paul's calm demeanor and steely glare is so hard to read that we never know what he's thinking anyway. He could be thinking about how badly he wants tacos, or he could be strategically planning a jewel heist. The point is, we don't know who Paul's really working for, and we don't know what's going through his head at any given moment. At least Helena's unpredictable behavior is predictable in that everyone knows they need to be on alert around her. In Paul's case, we thought we knew him and could trust him based on his odd connection to Sarah in Season 1, but these days, he's proving to be every bit as mysterious as the religious wackjobs who want to implant the fertilized egg in Helena (or if they can't track her down, Gracie).

I believe I've touched on this before, but one of the things that makes Orphan Black so compelling is the way it paints its characters in various shades of gray. No one is all good, and no one is all bad, which helps make the show's exciting, mysterious world feel a bit more relatable. It'd be easy to draw a line and see the world of Orphan Black as an alternate reality, but the people who inhabit it just feel so, well, human, that it makes you wonder whether there's secretly a clone conspiracy headquartered in Toronto that we don't know about. The show's habit of keeping viewers on their toes by making characters switch allegiances based on their own wants makes it difficult to determine who the real villain is. People we thought were enemies can turn out to be allies, and vice versa. I'm not going to braid Dr. Leekie a friendship bracelet anytime soon, but it's promising that he ignored Rachel and proceeded with the first step in treating Cosima's mysterious illness after also confessing that the clones' original genome was destroyed in the lab explosion we thought killed Rachel's parents. 


Leekie is obviously a man of science and no doubt has ulterior motives in circumventing Rachel's narrow-minded desire to get Sarah to heel, but is he an ally? Maybe, maybe not. That's what makes him interesting, and a world in which Leekie uses the clones while they use him adds yet another layer to this already complicated adventure. The fact that the original genome no longer exists explains, at least in part, Dyad's deep interest in Sarah and what makes her special. The reveal that Rachel's father, Ethan Duncan (or Swan Man, as Helena knows him), could still be alive is something I considered last week, but I wasn't sure the series would go there. Now that I know that it is, I'm very interested to discover what he knows and how this knowledge might affect Rachel down the road. 

"Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est" translates to "knowledge itself is power," and that's never been more obvious than it is right now. Orphan Black holds power over its viewers by deciding exactly how much (or how little) of this far-reaching clone conspiracy to reveal in each episode. In terms of the story it's telling, not a single character possesses all the knowledge of the show's world, but they can still use what they do know to their advantage, like when Sarah employed her knowledge of Ethan's survival to secure Felix's freedom, or when she realized that the way to get through to Helena was to prey on her loneliness. Having knowledge gives us power, but I feel pretty good not knowing where Orphan Black is headed next, and not knowing what to expect from people like Paul, because that's what makes the series so surprising.



CONSPIRACY THEORIES


– Poor Felix, man. Caught up in the clone conspiracy bullshit again. I honestly don't know how much longer he's going to be able to take it.

– The Proletheans sewed Gracie's mouth shut when she refused to talk about what happened with Helena. That. Is. So. Messed. Up.

– The mystery of Cal continues. The Dyad Institute began looking into him to see if there was something special about him, too, since he's Kira's father. But it doesn't look like they know much about him, either. He's got a fake driver's license and a gun. Who are you, Cal? And can we trust you? I want to be able to trust you.

– I can't decide which line of Helena's was funnier: "Do you like my hair, Paul?" or  "I wanted to write letter" as an excuse for why she stole Felix's pen.

– Do we need to start referring to Paul as Big Dick Paul instead of Hot Paul?

– No Alison this week, which makes sense given that she's still in rehab.

– The Place of Screams does NOT sound like a place I want to go. 

– Just doing God's work here:


What'd you think of "Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est"?


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AIRED ON 6/16/2016

Season 4 : Episode 10

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Maybe it's wrong but I adore Helena and admire her can-do attitude. "Rachel is problem. I fix problem."
Props to Tatiana for eating mustard, tinned fish and doughnuts all at once. I hope she didn't have to do many takes of the scene.
I loved the WTF look on Art's face when Helena had that sisterly moment. Priceless.
Yeah this Cal is an interesting character - it seems that Kira gets her intuition from her father's side if the family which makes me wonder if his relationship with Sarah wasn't orchestrated in some way, or if he is somehow linked to 'the swan man?'
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Prize for worst monitor (so far) Donnie!

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Delphine said that some "growing" in the uterus may be the cause of infertility if that's the case ,the fertilized egg from Helena can grow in "any" uterus BUT Helena's.

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Delphine said that the small growths that Cosima found in the uterus was what was causing the infertility. Sara carried Kira, so Helena can probably carry a child as well.
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Nobody can say for sure that's the cause of infertility. May Sarah has or hasn't ,any "grow" in her uterus. May be Sarah is the original. The thing is that grow is the only hypothesis so far, to explain the infertility.
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Since Sara and Helena are actual twins, they are probably the closest with respect to each other's biology. And since Sara can have children, Helena should also be able to carry a child to term.
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Really ?have you heard about adquired diseases? Not only the genetic predisposition can affect someone .And people with same genetic predisposition may or may not "express"it ;during her lifetime. Anyway she may or may not be impregnated according to the writers will.It 's a plot device ,that may or may not be explored.
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What about the video? If that clone in the video isn't Rachel?
Another question is if this the first generation of clones or the "only" clone.
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re: the video. That thought occurred to me as well. It would explain why Cosima's "profile" of Rachel did not match what Sarah was seeing on the video. Either the child in the video is not Rachel or Rachel has changed over the years and become more twisted/unstable. Also, if Rachel and Ethan Duncan(Swan Man) were so close, why hasn't he contacted her all these years?
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I agree , the looking of Rachel seeing that video , was something .May be the girl in the video was the original, or may be there were her few happy memories .Who knows ,anyway we'll find out soon ,I hope.
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The video could be of the original (control), and Rachel is a clone brought up by Dyad in a sterile environment. It could be that Rachel appropriated the videos when the original "parents" disappeared/died, along with the original. The other option is that the video is of Rachel, and Leekie took over as her guardian and raised her in a sterile environment once her parents were out of the picture. Which means he really messed up somewhere along the line.

Each clone appears to be a variation of a nature vs. nurture experiment. And since the military was involved, they may have been looking to create perfect soldiers and assassins, but needed to know how to do it first. And if they did want to find the perfect way to raise the perfect assassin, I think they may have found it in Helena.
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Agree; nature vs nurture is core
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Helena is the best character in the show, every time she take's action you know it's gonna be epic... I don't know why everybody is in love with Cosima...
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I really adore Kira. This season she gets to show more of her personality beyond just being that "cute child". And I also want to be able to trust Cal, since they make such a fine father/daughter duo. But knowing Orphan Black, it's just not possible that he isn't more than what he seems.

I may not have liked Helena's most recent resurrection, but I must admit that this episode proved why it could've been the right call. She carried some of the scenes. I really, really wanted to see Rachel bite the dust.
Paul's loyalties seem all over the place right now. I certainly don't envy him being Rachel's pet, that woman could make one's blood freeze.

Aww, poor Felix. The association with clones does him no good. He should go hang out with Allison and be safe.
Also glad that Leekie is more than just Rachel's pawn. This whole search for the Swan Man might bring about some answers straight from the source. Hopefully.
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I see some of you are calling it rape (siiiiigh ... not again!). I guess you all missed the part when he tried to grab her ass, and got slapped for it. Trust me ... he wanted every bit of that action ;)
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That was him fighting for control, and losing.
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That was him trying to grab her ass .. and losing :) No way that was rape, that's all I'm saying.
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Another great episode. I am happy Helena now is becoming Sarah's secret weapon to be "unleashed" on Dr. Leekie if needed be !
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This was one of my fav eps this season. So much happened!
  • SADDEST moment was Felix's date-interruptus... So unfair... The kids were just having so much fun... and that 80s pop soundtrack... SO UNFAIR... Hate Paul right now (more below)
  • We love Kira with Cal. Honestly the clone team is up to too much crazy and violence for an 8-year old to be around... I wouldn't be against Kira spending time in Seattle or somewhere up in WA state right? Cal's growing attached to the kid and was reluctant to tell Sarah where he was when she asked so.... I think this hints at Cal doing a runner if he feels Sarah is endangering Kira... I think Kira would not be against it as she seems like a very aware and down to earth kid who probably realises her mum is in a world of trouble...
  • Who wasn't sorry that Helena didn't shoot that bitch Rachel... Sorry but she is so unlikeable... and her sexy times with hot Paul was one of the unsexiest scenes ever... Sorry but that was not dominatrix, that was just boring... yep even with the abs...
  • When did Paul become such a douchebag? Was he re-programmed in Taiwan or what?
  • As Paul & Rachel become the 'couple' from hell, Dr. Leekie seems a bit redeemable... And I hope they save Kasima cause she is one of the fun
  • Helena calling Felix 'brother-sestra'? Precious! Helena really lives in a world of her own with her own vocabulary and all... As crazy as she may be, I am loving her sisterly reunion with Sarah and a potential recovery of the character as one of the good guys...
  • Who didn't enjoy Helena's 'interrogation' by Art while eating weird food... Never gets old...
  • The Proletheans are a bunch of awful people, no redemption possible or necessary... Ugh... OK maybe Gracie can run away with the guy with the funny hair style before the use her to make babies... Ugh...
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Damn it is hard to choose a favorite clone. But Helena is such a phenomenal character. Even Rachel is moving up. Also, you ladies can drool over Paul all you want. But Tatiana in that nighty was wow. That was Emmy worthy right there.

Gracie got a hard lesson in Cult rules. And it was kind of deserved. Also, being second in line to carry the baby is kind of hilarious.

Even Art was great this episode.

I did miss Alison and her hilarity. She is just the levity that the show requires.

Paul is definitely working another angle as is Cal. I have to wonder if they know each other. They are very similar in their reaction to Sarah and all of this. But Paul is definitely working an angle though. I have to wonder for who. The unraveling of several characters motivations is a great aspect of the show. We saw it a bit with Mrs. S and I still think there is something more there. Paul was the same thing and I think there is more. And now we have Cal. This all seems so connected that it is almost predictable but at the same time it is performed so well that I don't really care.

Great episode.
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Best part was Helena eating a brick of uncooked ramen noodles
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Rachel is a total freak. And she bounces back fast! Her monitor/f*** buddy just got killed and a day later she's literally hopping on Paul's dick? Emotionless btch. But the dominatrix thing says a lot about her personality.

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I think that's part of the deal. Because she blames Sarah, she wanted to take her boytoy.
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yea. those abs are sick. what else is this guy good for anyway? Its definitely not his acting!
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I missed Alison this week, It seemed like rape to me but it was interesting that Rachel didn't jump straight to Paul's penis, she first inspected him so Rachel it's a little picky in whom gets to be intimate with her.


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I totally got the rape vibe from that situation, too....
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is Felix going to end up a clone and when Sarah was lamenting about when she thought she had killed Helena was that genuine the dyad institue is going to be pissed when they find out the proletheans has helena eggs hahah I think cal is in league with sarah's orphan mom

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Did anyone notice the actor's erection? that is hilarious
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Much as I love Hot Paul's abs, I couldn't enjoy them what with the sexual assault being committed on them. I felt incredibly squicky during that whole scene, as well as during everything with the Proletheans - "help us get back the girl so we can forcibly impregnate her or we'll forcibly impregnate you instead." Just *hurl*, at all of it.
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Yeah, it was weird dominatrix sex. Paul was totally getting raped by Rachel. The only reason he didnt squeal is because he didnt want to get killed
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Exactly, there was just way too much ick factor this week
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Poor Felix, he just can't catch a break.
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Thank God for Hot Paul *sigh*
Kira is awesome but yes I do think she has some special powers
Sucks to be Felix and his hot date, damn he looked great
what was the deal with fat half naked guy? I laughed cause it was so random
Carl is so mysterious and cool
Rachel and Alison do have some kind of resemblance but Alison is way more likable
Sarah and Helena can't say they would end up as besties but I do hope they form some kind of bond
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This was such a weird episode this week.

Cal has some deep history, and I think that is why Kira is turning into a leopard. After all, she's been mainly raised by Mrs S, who also has some mysterious and murky depths.

I'm curious why Helena left so many clues for Sara and Art to find her. If she'd covered her tracks, Rachel would have been toast.

Since the start of this season, I began to wonder a lot more about Paul. When he switched sides so quickly, I wondered if there was more to his story. Now I'm beginning to think he's part of another group entirely. His willing to go along with Rachel's dominatrix mess was just...ewww. But he could've walked away from Rachel at any point during their "interlude". She didn't handcuff him, tie him up, or threaten him. He's a dangerous adversary on his own, and has handled himself well in some pretty dicey situations. So I don't for one minute believe he couldn't have left the room whenever he wanted to. So why put up with it? The best thing I can come up with is that he's infiltrating Dyad for maybe the original military group that funded the original scientists.

Poor Felix, he was finally having some good old-fashioned fun, and then the $#!t hits the fan.

While Gracie is messed up, what her family did to her is far worse. This is a cult that needs to go.
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After watching this episode it struck me how similar Rachel is to Alison in a yin yang kind of way like Sarah and Helena.
Now we only need an opposite for Cosima. A clone who does "evil" with a smile.
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"I think bitch boy to sex toy isn't really a move I'd like to make"
Seeing how well she was riding him, i don't think it was all that bad...
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I loved this episode. The show just gets better and better!

Holy crap, the Proletheans are creepy as hell. I thought Tomas was bad, but these Proletheans might be worse. I hope Gracie turns out to be their undoing.

The scene with Rachel and Paul was really uncomfortable... Made me wish Helena had gone through with the assassination.

I hope Cal turns out to be one of the good guys. Clone Club does not need any more enemies! I am really glad Art is on their side now. Hopefully Angie will be too. They need allies who have connections.
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I wouldn't Cal as good guy yet, he just using different methods to Rachel to achieve his and Dyad goals.
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I don't know if the Paul/Rachel scene was rape. However, a friend of mine who saw both this episode and the finale of Grimm said that if any man did to women what both Rachel and Adalind did to Nick (Grimm's main character) and Paul, the men would be seen as rapists.


As to whose side Paul is on...maybe even he doesn't know.
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He definitely didn't seem to be happy about it, and I get the impression that if he didn't comply she would have him killed.
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He wasn't happy about it he's been but in a position that he can't find a way out of, so for now he's complying with what ever she wants him to do, he know if he doesn't he's essentially dead, however I have a feeling if he gets the order is to hurt Sara in anyway i can see him somewhat risisting. I do think Paul has a bigger involvement in every thing than we believe.
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I though the same thing! And I watched Grimm finale I totally agreed. It was rape there now in Orphan Black if it has been a woman oh boy... However Paul tends to submit to the clones very easily. I mean she's a 100 wet! Just say NO!
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Yeah he didn't really say anything or say no I got a headache, he coulda been all "I'd like a duty statement from Leekie defining the demarcation of responsibilities in my new role since the promotion" or "I'm still getting over the STD I caught from Sarah or my adventures in Thailand" :-)
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Don't know about Grimm, but how is this rape? Paul is doing a job, he has a choice.
If he's getting paid for it, it's more like prostituion than rape.
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That's the point. He doesn't have a choice. He's likely to end pretty fast in a bodybag if he quits his job.
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Not the way I understood it. Rachel made it clear to point out that it's a promotion with loads of benefits. If he told her "No" then he basically would still be a hired gun for Dyad, instead of her personal bodyguard and plaything.
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Exactly - if that's not rape it is at least sexual abuse.
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@AngelAeon you have a very good point I've always thought he has deep feelings for Sara and doesn't know what to do with those feelings
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Dubious consent, perhaps. But Rachel had just thrown Sarah's renewed relationship with her baby daddy in his face. Perhaps he submitted as some sort of passive aggressive revenge, since I firmly believe he's very attached to (maybe in love with) Sarah.
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"Hot Paul returned this week with allegiances so fluid that I doubt even Kira would be able to pinpoint what's happening there." was the best line constructed in the history of anything.

Quite a wild card week, especially since we got a glimpse of Siobhan Shadypants being crazy next episode. We have Leekie, Paul, Cal and Mrs. S to watch out for (and maybe even Scott and/or Lube Hands McGee the morgue dude). I don't quite count Helena as a wild card because I think we know her motives, and we know what makes her tick--food and her twin sestra.

Also, I would be totally fine if Helena went back and set the Prolethean lab on fire.

Also, boys are gross.
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After Helena get to use her sniper rifle to take them down one by one.
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Gracie sucks but having her mouth sewed was deeply disturbing. And I would think she would just kill the baby if it was inside her. I don't know, the Proletheans freak me out.
I was pretty indifferent to Helena coming back, but now I am very glad. I could watch Art watch Helena eat food all day long. She is just so hilarious and crafty. Her hissing at Felix was amazing.

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Yea Cults are pretty screwed up. Gracie got a hard lesson in not disobeying the cult this week.
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As for the loyalties of certain characters:
I think Leekie's loyalties and therefore motivations lie with the his scientific experiment. That is why he subverts Rachel orders and intentions by treating Ccosima. He defenitlyy is not a "Friend" of the clones, he views them more as the subjects of his experiment.
Paul seems just as selfish in his motivations. He wants out from whatever thumb he is under. First it was teh guy with the tail (forgot his name) and now Rachel. He might not be an easy guy to read, but his actions seem to speak loud enough. He is willing to play the game until he is able to get the upper hand. I think the clones can in no way count on him but they can count on his desire for self-preservation. In that sense, Paul hasn't really switched allegiances, the hand that controls him has just switched or more accurately, regained control.
Rachel's motivation on the other hand are on one hand unknown in the sense that we don't know her ultimate goal. In a short term sense, she wants Sarah under her control and back in the science experiment. My guess would be that she want's the treatment developed so she herself can get pregnant, have kids and continue the Duncan family tree.

Yay for the Helena-Sarah road trip :D Helena is just insane-ly awsome and funny. She sort of replaced Felix as the comic relief. She has defenitly turned into my favourite clone.

Also: Poor Gracie. If all those religious nuts bit it at some point, I would want her to make it out alive. She seems like the only human being among that lot. Her mom (that is her mom, right?) seems especially crazy.
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Whoah, so for being a bad girl Gracie you may end up carrying to term the baby that is the offspring of an unholy union of both the clone you fear and despise and possibly your Father? Ewww!! Was that her mother pulling the stitches? Has she got some issues of her own? (whose idea was that? Just great, you get raised by a combo of religious wacko's and dabblers in medical science)

I thank James Caan for bringing Misery back from the dead errr... I mean the writers for bringing back Helena (who I consider to be a human hand grenade, as I am very much a part of the school that worships at her feet)
"So I give her darkness" makes popping sound and indicates eye gouging a nun with thumbs while still eating (as good as pen or hair zingers in my book)

Show is gold and I'm chomping the bit for next week, especially the silly stuff - a road trip and what looks like Helena in a bar fight
- Place of screams and swan man
- some Rehab with Alison and Vic's back
bring it on!!!!

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I even think it was the mother who decided to punish her that way. Her father didn’t look all that happy with the punishment, but the mom insisted it was needed. Makes me wonder if her father is in charge or if he’s just boss for show (or they’ve each got a role in their marriage)
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Great episode! Loved the Sarah and Helena scenes.
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If Tatiana Maslany doesn't get an Emmy nomination this year, the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences can go suck a duck!
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They lay down with pigs [snort snort]!
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:) I would say poor Paul but I don't know, but it was nice to see him naked again that beautiful man is ripped. The way I see it Paul is being backed so far into a corner for the first time he can't see a way out so he's just obeying orders what ever they may be (crazy wakadoddle sex with crazy bitchy weird Rachel), next weeks trailer show that there is more to him and his story so fingers crossed we get him back on Sarah's side soon. I like Cal I don't trust him but I like him so far, Kira has a keen sence about everything so I think if she feels safe around him then he can be trusted to keep her safe at least. Those prolethian nut jobs are evil what parent would lock up their child and sow her lips shut........ Creepy. Helena is always great fun her craziness is seeming normal to me now. It's going to be good to have Mrs s back next week can't wait to see what they do with her and Paul.
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Hmm... that was straight rape. Not some "dominatrix play" where the sub can say STOP. Consent goes both ways.
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I watched it again, and I still can't call it rape (sexual assault). Certainly I saw a big red flag of employer vs employee here, and that was somewhat uncomfortable for me. But there's also Paul's role as monitor, and we already know that this kind of thing is included in the job description.

I was watching closely for any sign from Paul of "I don't want to do this", but saw none. And he removed every article of clothing himself with no hint of fear or distress. There was a pretty strong sense that he was doing this out of duty/obligation, but lack of consent, no.
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Yeah even "Daniel" didn't work as a safe word for Paul ha-ha! Probably need that cop that barged in on Felix to make an entrance but I doubt that he could of blocked what was going to happen.
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Rape shouldn't be taken lightly but Paul was more than willing. He tried to take the lead and was slapped by Rachel.
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He only tried to be more active to get over with it, to make the whole less uncomfortable. No victim blaming goes both ways.
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That's a pretty skewed interpretation. It's not impossible that Paul's thought process was as you said but there was certainly nothing in the episode to substantiate that. And I haven't blamed Paul for anything.
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Stand your ground safi
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Actually, she penetrated his mouth. That better be illegal, coz if someone does that to me I'm defending myself.
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If we're talking about Rape then 'the fact' is the penetration. So he may have been uninterested initially (with his stoic demeanour I'm not convinced) but he became interested after Rachel made advances. Nothing criminal there.
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theres nothing in the episode to substantiate either of your points of view, that would pretty much require a voiceover. i think ug's is more likely though. even if you're right it's at best consent after the fact. he was clearly uninterested at the beginning.
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I disagree. Rachel offered Paul the job. She didn't put a gun to his head.

I see this more as a case of prostitution than rape.
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No, that's not the impression I got at all.
The way I understood it, Rachel was offering him a job. He could have said no.

He'd still be working for Dyad, just on Leekie's end instead of hers.
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Hmmm. You don't think his life would be at all in danger if he refused the job and/or left the Dyad Institute ?
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This episode was both intentionally and unintentionally hilarious!!! A+
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Just posted something similiar on final Grimm episode, but...
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of predictable cliched nonsense to pull plots together or just plain waste time. Just once this year, I would like to watch an episode of anything, ANYTHING, and not be able to predict the results from start to finish, and/or not be stupefied by ridiculous out-of-character actions of main characters(still predicted in these cases, but stupefied anyways sometimes).

Ex: Helena takes off to grab sniper rifle and off Rachel. Right there, if everything else we've learned about these characters in this show is correct, the result of that action is pretty much sealed. Sniper/bad-ass training+20 minute headstart. No, they would not magically find the place she's trying to take shot from. No, even if they could, they wouldn't have made it in time anyways. Had they showed up, amulances everywhere, Rachel already dead, that would have made sense. That storyline, once started, should have quickly ended with Rachel with a doughnut head right quick. But no, she leaves them clue to where she is, they magically get there in time, they magically find her, and magically stop her from taking shot by saying 'pretty please' or something. They have a classic TV "No please, we're the good guys don't pull that trigger moment.'

My God TV networks! Here's an idea: Instead of just financing then cancelling these shows one after another for poor ratings, find and hire some kind of like, reality expert/consultant to work with your writers. Clearly the writers have some cool ideas sometimes, but don't live in the same basic world as the rest of us, where causality is the fundamental law of the universe and where people's I.Q.s don't jump up and down like Mexican jumping beans.

Yes, clearly I'm grumpy, but seriously, I really have not watched almost anything at all that's not 100% predictably boring this year. Le sigh....
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She wanted her sister to catch up with her. That why she left a bike outside of her sniping position, and trail of clues to find her.

She wanted her sister to see her solve her problem, in her world view Rachel is a problem and to solve that problem you kill her but she want to share that with her sister.
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I don't disagree with your problem in general but this isn't a good example to make your case. Helena clearly had no interest in shooting Rachel ASAP, it was a game to her. She had to finish her doll's haircut first and wanted to pull the trigger mid-coitus. Helena wasn't some professional hitman, she's unstable. She's not the kind of person to meticulously plan and cover her tracks, she acts recklessly and impulsively. Every clue that led Sarah to Helena was plausible.
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Plus, Helena wanted Sarah to find her. She purposely left the clues. She could have made it impossible to find her in time, but she didn't.
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The thought did cross my mind.
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Yep. I'm pretty sure from what she said that it was clear Helena wanted Sarah to see Rachel and Paul doing the dance with no pants.
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It was OK. It wasn't good as the one before it. :(
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There is no reason why Paul is not preserving himself and infiltrating Dyad, but where I differ is that Sarah may not be the one he would infiltrate for necessarily .Let us never forget that Paul was US Army and he may be working for the good ol' USA. Far-fetched, maybe, possible, sure why not.
Sarah Team needs someone like Helena, and the fact that she is a clone of the same "batch" as they makes her all the more potent. Till now, though, she was made to feel her sisters as "abominations" and this has to change the sooner the better in order that she becomes part of The Hand ( Kira is the pinkie, just in case you were wondering :-) ). Or the Fist.
I think it is befitting that Leekie is the real boss at Dyad's , because I think that his allegiance is really to the science , and that he was caught up in the "administrative mess" that the Clones created when Sarah suddenly left these years ago and the existence of the Proletheans. Rachel is allowed to have administrative access and work as the COO of Dyad; but in the end she s as much a part of the experiment as the rest of the others. I think if Leekie is loyal to anyone. he would be loyal to the Duncans, who after all are the ones who introduced him to the research.
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I've also been thinking that Paul is part of the 3rd, or maybe even a 4th group (if he's not in the one with Mrs S). I think Mrs S is part of a 3rd group who are comprised of the original anti-Dyad renegades.
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I agree with you that Paul is probaly working for someone else rather than himself or on Sarah's behalf. He said something about that he, as well as Sarah, is walking down memory lane. I might be going way off here but... It makes me think that he was in some kind of secret program in the Army and that he never left the program, possibly he met Cal there?
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Yep, can't forget this infiltration and survival is just another day at work for Paul. For someone who started working for Dyad due to blackmail regarding his military unit he had quite an easy time blackmailing Felix, with little qualms or guilt which suggests he may have an agenda or end goal to some mission perhaps. Besides Kira and Helena with the miraculous healing and the projects beginnings starting as a military one, something fishy is going on there. I'm not sold on Leekie just cause he's helping Cosima after the confrontation and he has the authority to override Rachel and free Felix? I'm not sure I believe his "fire in the lab" story either. As for Cal I hadn't thought of him being more than he seemed or even aware of Paul, what has occurred that suggests he is more than an anti-corporate survivalist type?
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Absolutely. In fact, I will further than you and suggest that the death of Beth was may be programmed by Paul to infiltrate Dyad as being reassigned within its infrastructure.The arrival of Sarah into this picture was a godsend to him and if we see the series from his perspective, he has done everything to be were he is now. I personally think of him as I would Ward from Agents of SHIELD for those who watch that show.
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@Tasmina. I would agree with you 100% if David had not found where Sarah and Kira were hiding sfter he spoke to the grocery owner so easily. At the same time at the begining of the episode Leekie and Rachel's conversation implied that Cal was not known to them. The problem is that they are such liars that I have no idea how much to credit the noise that comes out of their mouths.
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Regarding Cal, I was thinking of the fact that he has worked on a military project and survivalist ususllay do not have fake IDs and a backup getaway RV conviently registered under his fake id name
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@DavidKnowles0 : I am revising my opinion on cal.I don't think he was Sarah's monitor anymore, but I am more inclined to think he was like Paul. in bed with the US military or an arm of their intelligence community.As you well said, Cal was involved with a secret project which was taken over by the US Army and "could have" had knowledge of other secret programs by association, the Lydia Project among others. While he may not have known at the time who is Sarah and Kira within that project, he now knows, as was clear when he did not press Sarah when she mentioned Dyad to him before leaving. I think we must assume until otherwise revealed that Cal is the anti-Paul of this narrative.
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Cal didn't worked on a military project. The military took over his work and he left because of it. That the story we know so far.

It been hinted more than once that he has criminal connections or is a criminal some how.

I always thought Sarah never had a monitor which is why she was taken from the UK and bought to Canada.

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You know, we were never really introduced to Sarah's monitor, were we? I cannot see Dyad seeing Sarah go unto the sunset just like that. In that light, could Cal be her monitor in the same way as hubby to Alison. If we are ready to accept that Rachel may be the footprint for the way Dyad does things, then we have to conceive that having monitors as sexual partners or even more is the way to go for them.This is emphasized by the fact that the interest in Sarah, in the first place, was because she was fertile and was able to be pregnant with Kira.
So are we ready to say that Cal is Sarah's monitor?
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While I always appreciate an opportunity to see Paul's abs, I was very uncomfortable watching the scene with Paul and Rachel.
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Pretty sure we just watched Paul get raped.
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Had that been gender-reversed the internet would have gone crazy, but for some reason no one seems to mind guys being raped...
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Man, I mean Tatiana is beautiful young woman but when she plays Rachel and starts shoving fingers into Paul's mouth it starts to exude that strange erotic discomfit like watching Japanese Hentai haha! Then having crazy Helena watching it and commenting is doubly priceless entertainment.
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lol-that was funny...and her comments on her hair....hahaha
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200%.
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