Queer as Folk

Season 4 Episode 13

Proposal of Two Kinds

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Aired Sunday 10:00 PM Jul 11, 2004 on Showtime
8.7
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Michael, Ben, Hunter, Ted, and Justin are preparing for the Liberty Ride. Justin is surprised to find Brian has been secretly training in order to go with them. Justin supports him and is very proud and excited that they'll be riding together. However, Justin is ultimately the one who will have to bow out when Brett Keller requests that he fly to Hollywood to help him pitch Rage to the execs of the studio.

While in spin Ted overhears a couple of guys excitedly talking about how last year's Ride included plenty of "sex and drugs". Worried he won't be able to stay sober without the support of the 12-step meetings he's become dependent on, Ted decides he won't be going on the Ride. When Emmett hears of this, he quickly decides to join the Ride to support Ted.

Melanie, bed-ridden and still angry & disappointed with Lindsay, has become comfortable ordering her around. Lindsay, on the other hand, feels as though she's been being treated like hired help. When she confides her situation to Brian, he suggests that if her and Melanie's relationship is over, she should leave. Lindsay later tells Melanie they can't continue their relationship in this way-with Melanie unable to forgive her no matter how hard Lindsay tries-and that it might be best for them, and for the children, if they don't stay together. Melanie agrees.

Horvath asks Michael for his permission to ask Debbie's hand in marriage. With Michael's blessing, he tries to find the right moment to pop the question, but Debbie's too busy preparing for the Liberty Ride. He finally proposes just as she boards the bus to Toronto.

The gang is off to Toronto, where the bicycle ride to Pittsburgh will begin. While a glowing Debbie is busy flaunting her ring, Ben decides to propose to Michael, since, after all, they're going to the province of Ontario in Canada, where gay marriage is legal. Having never considered marriage as a reality in his life, Michael is unable to give Ben a quick answer.

In Los Angeles, Justin and Brett pitch the Rage movie to studio head Marty Fenderman. Marty balks at the content, and says if they're going to go with a gay theme they're going to have to cut the gay sex. Justin politely explains that they won't compromise Rage's sexuality. They prefer to remain true to their vision.

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  • Cute Episode

    9.0
    Nothing major stuck out to me but a lot of cute, character development type of events occurred revolving around Ted and Emmett's friendship as well as the idea of marriage. One thing I will say so that I will not reveal spoilers is that I hope Melanie and Lindsay recover soon...
  • When people are in love they get married.

    8.2
    When two people are in love they get married, these are pretty much Michael\'s words and that seems to be the overall theme of the evening. After Carl and Debbie get engaged Ben is reinspired, he was planning to do it already, to propose himself. He really catches Michael off guard with this and leaves him in quite an uncertain place but after some consideration of realization he accepts!!!
  • Ben pops the question.

    9.6
    While everyone's ready for the big ride, Justin gets a call from Hollywood, saying that they need him out there for a meeting with the execs of Rage. No one knows though if Brian is riding or not, and they're surprised to see him show up at a bar in Toronto. But that isn't the biggest surprise of the episode. While on the bus ride up to Toronto, Ted shows up at the last minute after backing down due to drug pressures, and Ben proposes to Michael. And what a better time to get married than while in Toronto since it's legal. This episode is full of surprises and leads up to one of my favorite season endings.moreless
  • Justin discovers where Brian has been going at night for the last three weeks. Carl wants to propose to Deb. Mike gets a big surprise. Mel and Linze call it quits.moreless

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    Linze is tired of getting bullied by Mel, who is barking orders at her and just plain being cold. Mel takes off to see the boys off before the ride, and when she gets back Linze is extremely angry. I don't think i've ever seen her that mad. They have an argument again. Linze had spoke to Brian about how Mel was treating her and he said don't put up with it. Now, Mel has a right to be angry and upset as Linze was when she found out that Mel had cheated. I wonder why Linze doesn't bring that up? However Mel doesn't seem that she'll ever be able to forgive Linze and that i sad. Linze says she thinks it might be better if they split up, and to my astonishment Mel agreed! Linze says she'll stay until the baby is born. This is so sad, i love these two together, and i know they love each other. I hope they will get back together in the future, or maybe after the baby is born things will change and they won't split up. Carl tells Mike he wants to Marry Deb, that was a surprise. He tries several times to ask her but she is distracted with getting everything ready for the Liberty Ride. Finally he gets to ask her as she is stepping on the bus, and she says yes. Mike had been making cracks all day about how he wouldn't know what it was like and all of that, and it was a real shocker for me to see Ben propose to Mike as well! They get hitched in Toronto where it is legal, though i don't then Brian was too thrilled about it. Brian had showed up out of nowhere when he decided to fly there and meet Ben, Deb, Mike, Ted, Emmett and Hunter in a bar that was just like Woody's. He told them he is going to ride to, and he does. Emmett talked Ted into going after he had the idea of bringing Ted's support system on the trip. He says he will be Ted's support system and even turns down a man so he can be there for Ted while they were in the bar. Ted didn't want to be tempted with drugs. The wedding brought out emotions for Ted and we discover that he might still love Emmett. Justin goes to LA after Brian says he's not going on the ride, which he said just so Justin would go. Brett is pitching Rage to a big whig who wants to completely change everything about it. However, Justin tells him how it is and we are not sure what is going on with that yet. I have a feeling it won't be changed very much though.moreless
Sharon Gless

Sharon Gless

Deborah 'Debbie' Jane Grassi Novotny

Robert Gant

Robert Gant

Professor Benjamin 'Ben' Bruckner

Michelle Clunie

Michelle Clunie

Melanie 'Mel' Marcus

Peter Paige

Peter Paige

Emmett "Em" Honeycutt

Scott Lowell

Scott Lowell

Theodore 'Ted' Schmidt

Gale Harold

Gale Harold

Brian Kinney

Paul Hecht

Paul Hecht

Marty Fenderman

Guest Star

Adam Harrington

Adam Harrington

Connor James

Guest Star

Stephen Amell

Stephen Amell

spinning instructor

Guest Star

Harris Allan

Harris Allan

James "Hunter" Montgomery

Recurring Role

Peter MacNeill

Peter MacNeill

Detective Carl Horvath

Recurring Role

Mike Shara

Mike Shara

Brett Keller

Recurring Role

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  • TRIVIA (1)

    • The fictional bar, Woody's, which is often frequented by the gang in the series, is actually the real-life "Moosey's," located on Church St. in Toronto where the series is filmed.

  • QUOTES (2)

    • (Ben is fixing Hunter's bike.)
      Ben: Yours is all lubed up. Seat nice and tight.
      Hunter: I'm going to ride, not fuck it.

    • Justin: So why the secrecy?
      Brian: Because I don't want people like you saying, "You can't, you mustn't." I don't want every cunty faggot who goes to the gym saying, "Poor Kinney, told you so."
      Justin: I have to hand it to you, your perserverance is surpassed only by your narcissism.
      Brian: And there you have the secret to my success.

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