Real Time With Bill Maher

Season 2 Episode 23

November 5, 2004

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Aired Friday 10:00 PM Nov 05, 2004 on HBO
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November 5, 2004
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Rated: TV-MA for Adult Content (AC) and Adult Language (AL)
Tonight's episode is Live from L.A.
Guests: former U.S. Senator Alan Simpson, actress Susan Sarandon, linguist and political analyst Noam Chomsky, comedian D.L. Hughley, columnist Andrew Sullivan, and former U.S. Representative Pat Schroeder.

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      • Noam Chomsky: "The invasion of Iraq was simply a war crime, straight out war crime... The United States invaded Iraq to gain control of one of the major sources of the world's energy, right in the heart of the world's energy producing regions, to create, if they can, a dependent client state, to have permanent military bases, and to gain what's called 'critical leverage' - I'm quoting Zbigniew Brzezinski - to gain critical leverage over rivals, the European and Asian economies... It's been understood since the Second World War, that if you have your hand on that spigot, the source of the -world - main source of the world's energy - you have what early planners called 'veto power' over others. Iraq is also the last part of the world where there are vast, untapped, easily accessible energy resources. And you can be sure that they want the profits from that to go primarily to U.S.-based multi-nationals and back to the U.S. Treasury, and so on. Not to rivals. There are plenty of reasons for invading Iraq."

      • Pat Schroeder: "George W. Bush did more for the death penalty than anyone. And I find it amazing that the Catholic hierarchy is pro-life but not for that. I mean, I think everybody was playing a real political game here. And I honestly think if you have leadership at the political level, that is like a trust. That is like a trust. And the real moral value is you don't lie to the people. You don't play with people."

      • Andrew Sullivan: "Let me just make this point. I agree with you. And I am not here to defend the way in which elements in the Republican Party demonize gay people for their own advantage. It was disgusting and wrong. And I'm also not prepared to say that Jesus doesn't speak to gay people, too. He absolutely does. He speaks in my life and in many other gay people's lives. But, look, the exit polls also showed that 67% of all the voters favored gay marriage or civil unions. Sixty-seven percent: A huge majority. I don't think you will have a firm and real analysis of this if you blame it all on that. It was much bigger than that, much more profound than that."

      • Bill Maher: "...Let's be honest - this electorate has switched because that Christian right has taken over the Republican Party. They started it in the '80s with Reagan and Pat Robertson. And like a parasite on a host, they now own it... Let's examine what 'moral values' are. Because I don't think religion always corresponds with moral values. To me - and they're very good at conflating morality with religion, just the way George Bush won election by conflating integrity with monogamy. He ran against Bill Clinton and his terrible blowjob by saying, 'I have integrity.' That's different than monogamy. Okay, the same way, when we talk about values, I think of rationality in solving problems. That's something I value. Fairness, kindness, generosity, tolerance. That's different. When they talk about values, they're talking about things like going to church, voting for Bush, being loyal to Jesus, praying. These are not values."

      • D.L. Hughley: "Well, I believe - I believe in Jesus, too. I just don't believe he only lives in 'red' states... I believe that Jesus doesn't live in America. I don't believe he lives in Iraq. I believe Jesus is the universe's Jesus and not just in Mississippi or Alabama or Arkansas. This is the United States of America, and not the United States of Red States and Blue States."

      • Susan Sarandon: "You know, the irony of the fact that you've got a president passing himself off as a populist... all of his plans are not for the working man. And then you've got, you know, the Democratic Party that has to go back to what it was about, and did have plans to help working people, but... somehow didn't communicate it. They have to figure out how to get their message out, and their true message. And not keep trying to be more like Republicans."

      • Bill Maher: "Okay, there's only one way to solve this-I challenge you to a duel!"

      • Senator Alan Simpson: "Well, you just made a little crack. You know, it was funny-funny, you know. Party-party. You know, those are little cracks. Those are smart, little cracks about the gay/lesbian people... You keep telling them. I think they're offensive. And I don't have to come on this program... So put that one in your pipe!"

      • Bill Maher: "You know, to quote the president, 'I'm getting a mixed message from you, Senator.' I mean, either I'm making fun of the religious people or I'm making fun of the gay people. I can't be doing both, can I?"

      • Senator Alan Simpson: "You're making fun of Americans who have some religious bent or a faith. Keep doing that and your people will never win an election. Because whether you and I like it or not, this is the only country on the face of the earth that was founded because of religious persecution and a belief in God. That's why they left Europe. So keep making fun of them. Keep making fun of the gays and the lesbians, pulling people in, tearing people up, thinking that Hollywood has all the brains in America, from people who are making millions of bucks on one movie and telling the rest of the people, and making fun of them, and you'll never make it, never make it."

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