Red Dwarf

Season 3 Episode 5


Aired Thursday 9:00 PM Dec 12, 1989 on BBC Two



  • Trivia

    • When Lister goes back in time and changes history, causing The Cat and Kryten to vanish. Technically Rimmer wouldn't have been there either as he wouldn't have been brought back as a hologram to keep Lister sane.

      Comment: Since Lister being put in Stasis for smuggling aboard Frankenstein the cat was the cause for everyone on Red Dwarf dying, if he never joined the crew, the drive plate would have been repaired properly by Rimmer and whichever third-technician was aboard. Who knows what happened to Rimmer during the intervening years, he could still have died and been brought back as a hologram like George McIntyre.

    • When Rimmer comes up with his plan to get Lister back and make himself a millionaire he says he can bring the Cat and Kryten back into existence. Kryten would still be in existence even if Lister didn't join Red Dwarf.Kryten would be in existence but on the Nova 5.

    • How did the German newspaper get the mugshot of Lister for the picture that was shown on the paper.

    • Seeing as Lister never joined up to Red Dwarf, he wouldn't have been able to stop himself from joining up in the first place by going through the timeslides, therefore creating a paradox, implying and leading to the notion of multibranched timelines.

    • Who actually took the pictures of the rich alternative Lister while he was having dinner and Young Rimmer sleeping in his bed?

    • Kryten needs to ask what a pub is, yet he spent 3 weeks in one as a comedy act with Rimmer in Backwards.

    • This may not be exact, but Rimmer is about 10 years older than Lister, so when Lister gives the tension sheet to himself at 17, Rimmer at that time would have been about 27 and Thicky Holden (who was with Rimmer at school) should have already become a millionaire from inventing the tension sheet at 26.
      Response Actually, Rimmer is (was at death) 31, and, as seen in Future Echoes, Lister is 25. This means they are six years apart, and so Rimmer and Thicky would have been 23 when Lister was 17, so it would have been 3 years earlier than Thicky.

    • We are shown that when the gang enter a slide they cannot move outside the frame of the picture, yet when we are shown the slide of young Lister and his band all we see is the band on stage but the gang move freely about the pub.

    • Lister's saving Hitler is shown as occurring at one of the dictators rallies at Nuremberg. The actual von Stauffenberg assasination attempt happened at Rastenburg in 1944, and the Nuremberg rallies ceased after 1938.

    • We learn in 'Ouroboros' (Series 7 episode 3) that Lister is his own father, and Kochanski is his mother. However, if this is so, when Lister fixed time so he never joined the Space Corps that would mean he never met Kochanski, so his father never met his mother, so he should never have been born, and even if he was, his life should have taken a radically different path from that it did.
      ResponseThis is why Lister disappears. If he had've joined the Space corps. then he wouldve been on the ship with Rimmer and if he wasnt to join the Space corps then he wouldnt have gone back to earth again. It makes sense that he can go back and change time, making the future Lister go back to his previous self in the photos time. Try and get your head around that. its basically saying that you can go back and change time and that person you affected the life of is you, but if you change that life it would go back to where you start, which is the bar.

    • The alternate Lister should have known who Rimmer was from meeting him as a kid and since Rimmer was practically the only person who appreciated his "Om" song.

    • Young Lister should have recognised Rimmer as a hologram since the technology should have been around in that time.

  • Quotes

    • (Watching video of a low-grade band playing on the stage of a pub)
      Cat: What is this? Who is that jerk?
      Lister: It's me.
      Cat: You?
      Lister: Age 17. That's me first band, Smeg and The Heads.
      Cat: What are you wearing?
      Lister: It was all the rage. It's what everyone was wearing. It was called 'Sham Glam.'
      Cat: Look at that collar! You could go hang-gliding!
      Lister: We used to think we were so cool...

    • Kryten: What is this place?
      Rimmer: It's a pub.
      Kryten: A 'Pub'? Ahhh -- yes -- A meeting place where people attempt to achieve enhanced states of mental incompetence, through the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks.

    • (After Rimmer fails to get Lister to remember him)
      Holly: So how did it go?
      Rimmer: Useless. He didn't listen. Didn't even recognise me. He just thought I was some neurotic, deranged, crazy madman.
      Holly: You sure he didn't recognize you?

    • (following a discussion of the tremendous success of one of Rimmer's old school mates)
      Rimmer: Did you go to school with anyone famous?
      Lister: Charles Keenan. He was pretty famous.
      Rimmer: What did he do?
      Lister: Ate his wife.

    • Rimmer: (About "Thicky" Holden) He always used to come bottom in geography. He thought a glacier was a bloke who fixed windows.

    • Rimmer: That's Adolf Hitler, he was leader of the runners up in World War 2.

    • Rimmer: The possibilities are enormous! They're mind-numbing! We could go back in time and avert major disasters!
      Lister: What, you mean like persuade Dustin Hoffman not to make 'Ishtar'?

    • Rimmer: You call this happiness? Surrounded by toadying lackeys and paid sycophants? Living with a love-goddess sex-bomb model megastar? You call this contentment? You know, I stand here now and I look at the two of us, and I ask one simple question: Who is the rich man? You, with your fifty-eight houses, your private island in the Bahamas, your multi-billion pound business empire; or me, with... with... with what, I've got. (Pause) It's you isn't it? Yes it's all very clear to me now. You -- richer and happier.
      Gilbert: This way, sir.
      Rimmer: I should have thought a bit harder about that speech, really. I cocked it up a bit, didn't I?

    • Rimmer: No, not entirely useless. Think of the famous people we could meet, the famous places we could go.
      Kryten: We could go back to Dallas, in November 1963, stand on the grassy knoll and shout "Duck!" Realizes Rimmer and Lister are staring at him ... Oh, I'm sorry, I must have bypassed my "Good Taste" chip!

    • (shouting to the crowd at one of Hitler's speechs)
      Lister: Don't listen to him, he's a nutter! And he's only got one testicle!

    • Rimmer: Kryten, unpack Rachel and get out the puncture repair kit! I'm alive!! (After discovering he's no longer a hologram)

    • Cat: Okay! But don't come running to me the next time you need someone to play Soap-Sud-Slalom down the cargo ramp. You can carry your own damn flags!

    • Gilbert: Excuse me, sir, but a gentleman appears to have appeared in the corner of the room.
      Rimmer: Listy, it's me! It's me, Rimmer! Rimmsy; Arnie Rimmer! Arnie; Old Iron Balls! Rimmer; Rimmer!
      Gilbert: Apparently, the gentleman's name is Rimmer, sir.

    • Holly: What you gonna do?
      Rimmer: I'm going in. I'm going in to rescue him.
      Holly: Rescue him?
      Rimmer: It's my duty. My duty as a complete and utter bastard!

  • Notes

    • One possible reason for Rimmer (briefly) no longer being a hologram at the end of the episode is that his younger self's brush with the future left his adult self more willing to listen to his holographic self when he appeared to him in "Stasis Leak", and presumably agreeing to put himself into stasis as instructed.

    • Kryten makes a joke about going back in time and stopping the Kennedy assassination. Funnily enough, this is what happens in the season 7 premiere "Tikka to Ride".

    • When the gang go back to Lister's past and see him playing with "Smeg and the Heads", the Heads are actually Jeff Walker and Bill Steer of the grindcore band Napalm Death (and also founder members of Carcass) who Craig had recently recorded with

    • The skiing couple in Lister's slide originally had lines telling us of how they ended up with Lister's party photos (as Lister got the pictures of the skiiers by accident). Their dialogue was cut from the final episode when Craig Charles pointed out they wouldn't have seen Lister's photos at that point.

    • Well known British comedienne and TV presenter Ruby Wax is the wife of director Ed Bye.

    • The young Lister is played by Emile Charles, Craig's younger brother.

    • Craig Charles and his band, The Sons of Gordon Gekko wrote three songs for this episode: 'Cash', played as Lister drives up to his mansion; 'Bad News', the song Kryten listens to while developing photos; and the 'Om' song.

  • Allusions

    • Kryten: Oh, I'm sorry, I must have bypassed my "Good Taste" chip!

      An indirect allusion to Star Trek:TNG's android, Data, who sometimes experimented with an "emotion chip" designed to make him more human by giving his positronic brain the capacity to form emotional responses.

    • Lister: What, you mean like persuade Dustin Hoffman not to make Ishtar?

      Dustin Hoffman is an actor famous for his roles in 1967's The Graduate (1967), Tootsie (1982), and Rain Man (1988). In 'Ishtar' (1987), he co-starred with Warren Beatty, and their different but perfectionist egos clashed not only with each other but with the director's right to control (she was far less established than they were). At US$40 mil (then unusually large) the film went way over its original budget (incl $10mil each to Hoffman & Beatty, then an unusually large sum), earning comparisons to Heavens Gate. Enduring both critical decimation as well as audience ennui, the film bombed, and got a much worse reputation than it deserved (not to suggest it's good).

    • Kryten: We could go to Dallas, in November 1963, stand on the grassy knoll and shout "Duck!".

      A reference to the assasination of US President John F. Kennedy, whose killer is officially accepted as being Lee Harvey Oswald, although many conspiracy theorists still believe that a second gunman fired from the grassy knoll.