Season 1 Episode 17

Whattaya Think It's There For?

Aired Unknown Jan 06, 1975 on CBS
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Whattaya Think It's There For?
At Ida's insistence, Rhoda talks Joe into asking her father for the money he needs to save his business, but then is surprised to learn things about her dad's financial state that are news to even her mother.

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  • Nancy Walker takes over the show, as it were.

    Seventeen episodes into its first season this show is still a bit of hit and miss. Characters created especially for this spin-off have not yet made much of an impact. (Carlton the doorman, played by one of the producers, may be the exception, but he feels like a joke that got out of control.) Worse still, Rhoda has become rather uninteresting. It's a bit sad then to see that a character created for the Mary Tyler Moore Show is needed to push the show up a level. Nancy Walker shines as Ida Morgenstern and you feel that the writers really enjoyed coming with great lines for this mother from hell ... or is she? The wonderful thing about Ida Morgenstern is that behind that facade of a pushy, overbearing, superficial, old-fashioned mother, there is someone who really cares. Perhaps Ida's tragedy is that she can't show her real emotions. No, I'm probably overanalyzing here, but the fact remains that the show comes alive in every scene with Ida. Compare her with the bland Joe and the still underdeveloped Brenda, and you know the writers had a big task ahead of them.moreless
Julie Kavner

Julie Kavner

Brenda Morgenstern

Harold Gould

Harold Gould

Martin Morgenstern

Nancy Walker

Nancy Walker

Ida Morgenstern

Valerie Harper

Valerie Harper

Rhoda Morgenstern Gerard

David Groh

David Groh

Joe Gerard

Lorenzo Music

Lorenzo Music

Carlton, the Doorman (voice only)

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  • QUOTES (3)

    • Ida: Rhoda, it's nothing to be ashamed of. If your marriage is breaking up I just want to know so I can help you conceal it from the rest of the family.

    • Ida: Rhoda, you know a lot of marriages in this country are breaking up, and do you know why? Because people don't try hard enough. Rhoda, if you are stuck on your marriage, you have to fight for it. If you and Joe are really in love, you should be willing to suffer for the rest of your life.

    • Rhoda: Things are not bad.
      Ida: Rhoda, things are worse than you think, and I have proof.
      Rhoda: What proof?
      Ida: If things were good, would I be here?

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