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Episode Discussion Thread: Jim Parsons/Beck (3/1/14)

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    Hennes81

    [1]Feb 13, 2014
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    Here is the official confirmation:


    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/02/13/snl-returns-march-1-with-host-jim-parsons-and-musical-guest-beck/237055/


    SNL won't book CBS actors? Done!

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    Hennes81 wrote:


    Here is the official confirmation:


    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/02/13/snl-returns-march-1-with-host-jim-parsons-and-musical-guest-beck/237055/


    SNL won't book CBS actors? Done!



    I'm glad that Jim Parsons is hosting, but did everyone else sleep through statistical analysis in college? This makes the third CBS star they've had host in the last nine years, and if you credit Melissa McCarthy and Neal Patrick Harris hosting to their non-sitcom work then Parsons is the first CBS star to host in at least fifteen years (I'm not gonna check further back than that). It's a statistical fact: SNL rarely, rarely has a star from another network (not cable) host.


    Seriously, it's such a poor grasp of mathematical probability that keeps Vegas in business...

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    Beck will be a breath of fresh air after all the recent-season musical guests...He hasn't been on the show in eight years...(Though they DID pass him on his last album in 2008...)


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    Sofia Vergara, Jane Lynch, Zooey Deschanel, Jason Bateman, Julia Louis Dreyfus (2x), Eva Longoria, Hugh Laurie (2x), Blake Lively, Kerry Washington

    All since Season 30

    Fun Fact: Julie Louis Dreyfus was in a CBS Show called "New Adventures Of Old Christine." Check the transcript of her 1st hosting.
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    JustinRAn wrote:
    Sofia Vergara, Jane Lynch, Zooey Deschanel, Jason Bateman, Julia Louis Dreyfus (2x), Eva Longoria, Hugh Laurie (2x), Blake Lively, Kerry Washington

    We're talking strictly CBS. There have been all sorts of ABC and Fox hosts over the years, but The Eye and The Peacock have a rivalry that dates back to the 1930s.
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    JM5000 wrote:

    Beck will be a breath of fresh air after all the recent-season musical guests...He hasn't been on the show in eight years...(Though they DID pass him on his last album in 2008...)



    Beck's last proper album, anyway. His follow-up to Modern Guilt was available only as a book of sheet music. Nice to have him back, though.
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    HelloStuart wrote:
    JustinRAn wrote:
    Sofia Vergara, Jane Lynch, Zooey Deschanel, Jason Bateman, Julia Louis Dreyfus (2x), Eva Longoria, Hugh Laurie (2x), Blake Lively, Kerry Washington

    We're talking strictly CBS. There have been all sorts of ABC and Fox hosts over the years, but The Eye and The Peacock have a rivalry that dates back to the 1930s.


    Julia Louis Dreyfus 2x?
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    JustinRAn wrote:
    HelloStuart wrote:
    JustinRAn wrote:
    Sofia Vergara, Jane Lynch, Zooey Deschanel, Jason Bateman, Julia Louis Dreyfus (2x), Eva Longoria, Hugh Laurie (2x), Blake Lively, Kerry Washington

    We're talking strictly CBS. There have been all sorts of ABC and Fox hosts over the years, but The Eye and The Peacock have a rivalry that dates back to the 1930s.

    Julia Louis Dreyfus 2x?

    I think that had more to do with being an SNL alumni was also on NBC's flagship sitcom ten years earlier.
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    JustinRAn wrote:
    Sofia Vergara, Jane Lynch, Zooey Deschanel, Jason Bateman, Julia Louis Dreyfus (2x), Eva Longoria, Hugh Laurie (2x), Blake Lively, Kerry Washington All since Season 30 Fun Fact: Julie Louis Dreyfus was in a CBS Show called "New Adventures Of Old Christine." Check the transcript of her 1st hosting.


    I would add Jason Segel to that list (even if he was on promotion for the Muppets). Of course you can rule Segel and McCarty out because they promoted movies.


    But Louis-Dreyfus and Neil Patrick Harris mentioned their shows during their monologues, and that should be the definition of "promoting a show".


    So you have 3 CBS hosts (including Parson), 4 FOX hosts (Lynch, Deschanel, Laurie, Bateman) and 3 from ABC (Vergara, Longoria, Washington). Doesn't sound like a big difference.

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    Bateman and Lynch hosted as much for their film work as their TV roles. Lynch isn't even one of the leads of Glee. Dreyfus was an alumni hosting.


    Even if you counted all those, that's still a handful out of the hundreds of hosts they've had in that period. Far fewer than the number of NBC and cable stars they've had host.

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    Ruckhappy wrote:
    Bateman and Lynch hosted as much for their film work as their TV roles. Lynch isn't even one of the leads of Glee. Dreyfus was an alumni hosting.


    All true, but still they mentioned their TV projects in their monologues and so they were promoting it on SNL. The Lynch episode even got a big Glee sketch and I don't remember her film work was mentioned.


    Ruckhappy wrote:
    Even if you counted all those, that's still a handful out of the hundreds of hosts they've had in that period. Far fewer than the number of NBC and cable stars they've had host.


    I thought about collecting thos data to have a valid comparison, but I think it might be to complicated to agree on basic parameter (should alumni be included?, should returning hosts be included?,...). And it's not THAT important to discuss those matters.


    But it might be safe to say it's a lot easier to host SNL if you are an alumni, you promote a Lorne Michaels production (Applegate for Up all night, Phillippe for MacGruber, Baldwins gigs to promote 30 Rock) or you have some sort of SNL track record before hosting (Brian Williams had cameoed before, Adam Levine was MG and cameoed, Steve Carell auditioned before). The last NBC hosts without any known connections to the SNL universe should be Zach Braff and Rainn Wilson in 2007.


    If you're not part of the world around SNL it's hard for any TV actor to get a hosting gig. Being on a cable show might help there - but still TV actors are clearly the minority of SNL hosts.


    In conclusion: If you want to host SNL you should have played in some box office hits or you should have a connection to SNL. Everyone else is just lucky to be asked.

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    I think they like having cable stars host because their shows aren't, in theory, competing directly with NBC's. Also, cable shows generally have a more sophisticated audience so their stars bring with them viewers that SNL likes to get.


    Straying a little OT but I'm still perplexed as hell that they haven't had Stephen Colbert host yet. Hell, he was seated next to Michelle Obama at the White House state dinner last week. How famous does the guy have to get before he's asked to host? Assuming he hasn't already turned it down, of course.

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    Ruckhappy wrote:


    I think they like having cable stars host because their shows aren't, in theory, competing directly with NBC's. Also, cable shows generally have a more sophisticated audience so their stars bring with them viewers that SNL likes to get.


    Straying a little OT but I'm still perplexed as hell that they haven't had Stephen Colbert host yet. Hell, he was seated next to Michelle Obama at the White House state dinner last week. How famous does the guy have to get before he's asked to host? Assuming he hasn't already turned it down, of course.



    To see Colbert hosting would be phenomenal of course. On the other hand Late Night Talk Show hosts were never frequent SNL hosts (even if you count Jimmy and Conan and add Leno and Stewart, there were just 5 show hosted by Late Night hosts in 30 years) so maybe they avoid the stress of working one week on SNL and miss own shows in that time.

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    Ruckhappy wrote:

    I think they like having cable stars host because their shows aren't, in theory, competing directly with NBC's. Also, cable shows generally have a more sophisticated audience so their stars bring with them viewers that SNL likes to get.


    Straying a little OT but I'm still perplexed as hell that they haven't had Stephen Colbert host yet. Hell, he was seated next to Michelle Obama at the White House state dinner last week. How famous does the guy have to get before he's asked to host? Assuming he hasn't already turned it down, of course.


    Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt have never hosted. Neither have Julia Roberts or Leonardo DiCaprio. It is possible to be too famous to host.
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    Hennes81 wrote:

    Ruckhappy wrote:


    Straying a little OT but I'm still perplexed as hell that they haven't had Stephen Colbert host yet. Hell, he was seated next to Michelle Obama at the White House state dinner last week. How famous does the guy have to get before he's asked to host? Assuming he hasn't already turned it down, of course.



    To see Colbert hosting would be phenomenal of course. On the other hand, late night talk show hosts were never frequent SNL hosts (even if you count Jimmy and Conan and add Leno and Stewart, there were just five shows hosted by Late Night hosts in 30 years) so maybe they avoid the stress of working one week on SNL and miss own shows in that time.


    That's another point-- is really is too time-consuming. No sitting Tonight Show host has ever hosted SNL, probably out of sheer redundancy. Also, keep in mind that Leno hosted six years before taking over TTS and two years before he became Carson's designated guest host. At least Dick Cavett had a schedule that was flexible enough to let him host twice in a six month span.
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    Tuesday promo time. Bazinga?


    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/snl-promo-jim-parsons/2748568

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    Episode Predictions:


    Cold Opening: Something Obama-related...Saw him the paper, and yes, I guess he is due for a comeback...


    Monologue: One big BBT parody, complete with the "Bazinga" catchphrase being milked as dry as possible...


    Weekend Update: We are introduced to Colin Jost, get some after-commentary about the Olympics...And what better guest to lead off this new era of Update than the one who's only been on twice but has already become a clear favorite? Jebidiah gives his scathing reviews on this year's Oscar nominees...


    First Musical Performance: Blue Moon


    Second Musical Performance: Waking Light


    Cameos: Maybe someone from the Olympics...


    Edited on 03/01/2014 11:31am
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    Parsons did a great Johnny Weir about the only good thing about the opening.

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    Wtf is with the singing monologues?

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    Twonk was funny bird bible not at all.

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