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    sleeper1428

    [1]Jun 8, 2012
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    I don't know why I continue to hold out hope (no pun intended) that these quasi-medical shows will finally see fit to portray surgical/operating room scenes with at least some small degree of truth. But I guess that's just not in the cards. In the Pilot episode of this show, there were at least two scenes where actors portraying surgeons were seen scrubbing up for surgery. In each of these scenes, surgical masks were seen dangling, hanging only by the lower ties, while the actors continued to speak while scrubbing. This is obviously done to give the actors more 'face time' although it is definitely NOT the way it's done in the operating room. In an actual operating room, the masks, which contain a malleable metal rib on the upper edge, are put on and adjusted to eliminate air leaks around the nose BEFORE scrub up is commenced. And I can tell you from over 30 years experience in the operating room that voices can be clearly heard through the masks so the producers of this show cannot claim that they had to deviate from standard practice in order to allow the actors to be heard. No, the masks are left down solely for the purpose of giving the actors more 'face time', time in which everyone can see their entire face and observe their expressions. However, while this departure from standard practice was bad, there was an even more egregious error, specifically when the female surgical resident is seen in the operating room standing directly behind and very close to the scrub nurse's instrument tray while she watches her soon to be husband undergoing a crainiotomy and she is NOT even wearing a surgical cap to cover her hair!! Where do these shows get their medical consultants? Anyone who has been in an operating room in the past 30 years knows that a cover of some sort, cap or hood, is ALWAYS worn to cover the hair during surgery, especially an open procedure such as a crainiotomy.


    Don't these producers realize that their shows can be just as good while following modern day standards? And that they don't have to trample all over commonly accepted practices in order to get people to watch. The details I've mentioned are of little consequence to anyone other than those of us who have spent our careers in medically related fields so I can't see how it would hurt to simply follow accepted medical and surgical practices rather than make such obvious deviations for the sole purpose of giving the actors a few seconds more 'face time'.


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    KasenStuff

    [2]Jun 9, 2012
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    Only people who actually know anything about being a surgeon will care about the aspects you are complaining about... The general population, like me, won't really care. So what if they want to give actors more "face time"?

    I was sadly disappointed and very annoyed with the narration. It was boring. And I adore Michael Shanks. He is so unbelievably hot, so I'm sad that this was so bad. I hope it picks up soon. I love seeing Michael Shanks.
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    CrazyAsian1080

    [3]Jun 13, 2012
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    It's a show. Don't kid yourself, people watch shows like GA for the drama and not for proper surgery edict. If they wanted proper to see what it's really like in a OR there is a channel for that I believe. However, actual surgeries are slow and people don't stand around talking about their love lives while cutting into someone.

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    KasenStuff

    [4]Jun 19, 2012
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    CrazyAsian1080 wrote:

    It's a show. Don't kid yourself, people watch shows like GA for the drama and not for proper surgery edict. If they wanted proper to see what it's really like in a OR there is a channel for that I believe. However, actual surgeries are slow and people don't stand around talking about their love lives while cutting into someone.



    Exactly. you said that much better than I did lol
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    Ingelief

    [5]Aug 15, 2012
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    i dont know, i kinda like the truth being seen even if im not a surgeon. Like that doctors said house cases where kinda reel symptoms and ilness. Like The unit where they tried to do missions who exactly taken place with the proper guns etc. I like within drama a sense of truth



    I agree also that more facetime isnt so bad, but the way in a operating room can be better. I think greys anatomy is doing a better job at it than this show. But somehow i like this show because of charlie being able to see and hear everything. It makes me feel fine that if someone is in a coma he maybe walking around

    Edited on 08/15/2012 7:44pm
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    w4u

    [6]Aug 25, 2012
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    I like supernatural elements and because of that I found interesting Charlie's existence as a ghost and I like his comments. I think there are two aspects of the main story: 1) Charlie and the ghost of the week 2) Alex's job experiences vs. personal feelings. A medical drama with lovable/talented actors (especially Michael, Erica and Daniel) and some supernatural twists... I'm fine with that. At least for now.

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