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Scandal S03E10: A Door Marked Exit


Hey there Gladiators, B613ers, and Devil Incarnates. It's been a long while since we last checked in with Scandal, the show that proves that once you believe that a cast of characters can't possibly reveal themselves to be worse human beings, you're wrong. The fall finale, the last episode for a looooong time, revealed some key information about Olivia's mother, allowed the POTUS to halfassedly interrogate the leader of a covert organization above his pay grade, and gave Jake a big-boy promotion to the top of B613. Oh, and Cyrus spent most of the hour trying to convince himself and others that he's (and let me put my Chris Traeger voice on for this) literally the devil. I haven't seen someone push the "I'm the devil" issue so hard since Al Pacino in The Devil's Advocate. Which is fitting, because Jeff Perry was chewing so much scenery in "A Door Marked Exit" that I was prepared for him to starting ranting about how God was a tight-ass and a sadist.

Not to be outdone by Perry, Joe Morton decided it was fine time for him to start destroying every living, breathing thing in his warpath. I'm actually really glad that the monologue Morton gave while Eli destroyed Fitz for, frankly, the petulant child he actually is, happened this week because that means it's eligible for best-of-the-year conversation. Scandal is an absolutely ridiculous show, as much of this season has proven, but it's so easy to go with it when actors like Perry and Morton are birthing such next-level spit-fire on the screen.  

It's weird, though, because in the time since we stopped reviewing the show on a weekly basis, it's as if Scandal just stopped being Scandal. It's, like, boring now, right? In case you're not caught up (or you only watch shows that we review because you're awesome), here are some of the generally innocuous, zzz-inducing moments from Season 3's first 10 episodes:

– The investigation into Operation Remington eventually revealed that Fitz, on orders from Eli and B613, shot down a commuter plane full of civilians because of a possible bomb threat. I don't know what's more insane, that the sitting president of the United States murdered a Supreme Court Justice in an intimate setting, that he previously took down an aircraft in an operation that killed hundreds, or that Fitz was hanging out in Iceland before he got the call to take down the plane. Can you imagine the trouble that he got into in ICELAND? What do you even do to get in trouble in Iceland?

– Though Eli delivered the order to bring down the plane, he did so in an earnest attempt to stop what he thought was a bomb onboard. The really bad news? The intel came from Olivia's traitorous mother, who Eli subsequently had locked up for 22 years. And only on Scandal is the father who's carried out a half-million black ops and attempted to take out those around his daughter kind of the good guy in a marriage. But again, in case you were concerned that Olivia's mother seemed too much like a helpless victim, the show made sure to underscore that she, like everyone else on this show, is a generally awful human being. 

– Speaking of awful human beings: Quinn is the world's most boring budding psycho-assassin. It's still a little unclear to me if she and Charlie are naive enough to assume that their romance can last, or if he's just running an op on her, but she's basically a B613 agent now. Oh how far she's come. 

– Ugggggh Mellie was raped by Fitz's father, in the show's attempts to REALLY emphasize that she'll smile and do anything for her husband's (and her own) career. One of my favorite aspects of this half season is that it consistently underscored that Mellie is often the show's most interesting character and sometimes, the one who seems the most human. You can get doe-eyed about Fitz and Olivia all you want, but I want them to be together just so Mellie can have her own thing. 

– Cyrus is the devil. In hopes of derailing VP Langston's not-so-secret, third-party bid for presidential candidacy, Cyrus and Mellie concocted a scheme that involved seducing Langston's husband (hey, if you need a dude to play a closeted gay man involved in politics, Jack Coleman is that dude) to lure him out of the closet. Unfortunately, that scheme used James as the bait, which created a spiral of terrible events that ultimately led to Sally stabbing her husband in the back, literally, and Cyrus soaking himself in booze at 7am. He was so desperate to keep Fitz in the driver's seat for the upcoming election that he used HIS OWN HUSBAND as a sexual decoy, then looked at the pictures, then got jealous, then kind of caused an innocent, naive woman to kill her spouse. THEN he had to cover that up. We haven't even gotten to real election yet. The Fitzgerald administration has killed more people than some very serious diseases. 

– Huck, who's now generally less insane than he was when Olivia found him, tortured Quinn—and all he could talk about during the proceedings was how cool it was to torture a friend. I mean, I agree, but try not to be so enthusiastic about it, right?

– Harrison grew a beard. Kind of. 


See, nothing to even shake a stick at! Scandal could probably do better. The show isn't going to be back on the air until almost March, but that won't stop us from speculating about where the story goes from here. Or at least it won't stop ME from speculating. Here are some important questions: 

– How will Jake's new gig at the top of B613 go over? I'm guessing somewhere between "very poorly" and "hilariously, disastrously bad." 

– How will Eli deal with his newfound free time, having been ex-communicated from B613? Surely he handles that masterfully, right? No hard feelings, I'm sure. He'll probably just catch up on his Netflix queue. (Okay, now I'm imaging Joe Morton yelling a three-minute screed at his computer screen about how he makes hard choices so that unknowing simple folk can enjoy old episodes of Bones on Netflix.)

– Is Olivia's mother back in D.C. for nefarious reasons? Well, let me rephrase that because everyone on this show is always doing things for nefarious reasons. Is Olivia's mother back in D.C. to directly harm Olivia or Eli?

– Will Harrison continue growing out his beard? Seriously though, I'd really appreciate it if the show committed to giving him something concrete and interesting to do. It keeps dancing around the issue without fully getting there. 


How are you liking Scandal's third season so far? What do you think will happen when the show returns in March?


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AIRED ON 5/12/2016

Season 5 : Episode 21

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The show is absolutely first class but will you all please stop trying to like or sympathise with the characters. There is no "good" character at all.
In the snake pit of Washington DC, there are only successful vipers and dead vipers. The joy of the show is to see how low everyone will go

We have POTUS - murderer, VPOTUS - murderer and hypocrite, Chief of Staff - murderer, election rigger, pimped out his own husband, a brain dead narcissist, Supreme Court Justice - attempted murderer and election rigger, Quinn, Huck, Jake, Charlie - murder and state sponsored torture, Papa Pope - State sponsored torture and State sponsored murder, Mama Pope - international terrorist, Olivia Pope - election rigger and happy to have the benefit of murder, torture and unconstitutional surveillance as required for her day job. Lastly a First Lady whose amoral single mindedness of purpose makes Lady Macbeth look like Mother Theresa on cannabis. Even the insipid underdog characters like David Rosen have a moral ambiguity and professional pragmatism that would see them evil, if they weren't so weak willed.

Anyone who has stopped watching because the show "lacks reality" has a fairly jaundiced view of American politics and government - unless they turned off in the first 30 secs.

The programme is a Nietzschean Nightmare and I can't wait for March to see who finishes on top of the dungheap and how they do it.
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So...I thought the whole point of B613 is that it was above the paygrade of the President? Like, administrations come and go but B613 remains. But apparantly, replaceing the leader of B613 and installing your own man is super easy?
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Everyone seems to be forgetting that Fitz is a murderer. Everyone seem to be forgetting that Cyrus is a murderer. Everyone seems to be forgetting that Olivia along with Cyrus and Mellie rigged a national election to make Fitz President. And these are the heroes of this show.
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aaaaaaaahhhh come onnnnnn, no one said they are heros at all but without them there is no show...so is sally btw but her craziness is making the show , they are all big part of the show of what it is today...as for rigging the election come on that happens for real all over the world for real, in america in australia and thats just 2 countries on top of my head... so just throwing it in shouldnt be an issue.
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yes they are... BUT, we still love them they make the show...but somehow im not sure if cyrus could get in to trouble for what sally did...
if you want to think of it in reality how many innocent people die in the hands of our army they say it was an ACCIDENT... and they get away with it...
what about george bush re election it shouldve been al gores but we all know what happened there dont we..
but this is just a show and a great show very entertaining one too...
dont take them too seriously :)))
ENJOY IT
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In the second season, the President murdered the Supreme Court Justice in her hospital bed.
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yes he did...just odd how dying people starting to have conscious right before they die she thought heck im dying but lets ruin the rest...AGAIN just a great show not real and very entertaining one :)))
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In the first season, Cyrus hired the hit man that killed the girl who had said she was having an affair with the President.
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im sure that wasnt cyrus that was the idiot that work for sally...she was his girlfriend pregnant with his child but he wanted her to tell the press that she was having an affair with the president and having his child and she did but once she couldnt lie anymore he had her killed...or was it cyrus??????/ maybe i shold watch it again :)))
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At the end of one of the episodes, the hit man comes to Cyrus while he is working in the garden. Cyrus asks if the girl was taken care of and the hit man (Charlie?) says yes she had been. Like I said, it is hard to empathize with characters who have no compunction about killing others who get in their way be they a President, a Vice-President or Chief-of-Staff. And anyone who can feel sorry for Olivia's father after the despicable things he has done (always for the greater good, right?), well where do you go from there?
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Oh and my thoughts on Jake being the new head of B613


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LOL. #teamjake4life
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What am I going to do until March??? Ugh.
This mid-season finale was kinda tame though I still loved it. I feel like what they did was reset things as a prelude to next year. What with that guy looking for Harrison, Whatever the hell is going on with Quinn, Jake being head of b613, Huck being Huck, and David Rosen possibly finding proof that Sally killed her husband(uhoh, are about we about to have another david Rosen problem?)
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Mellie is the devil. I hate to disagree with Cory, whom I highly esteem, but she is not the most human of them all. She is the devil. Yes, she was raped by Fitz's pa (I agree, Cory, ugggggh!), but she snapped back from that way too quickly for a human being. She has consistently crossed any line because she doesn't recognize any of them. Cyrus wept and begged, Rowan ranted, Huck creeped, but it was Mellie's quiet, "sympathetic" counsel of Sally in her grief that was the most disturbing. The only thing that saves us from the immediate apocalypse is that Mellie doesn't think much beyond the current situation, and occasionally she trips herself up. if she could think chess moves ahead like Cyrus, Olivia, or even Fitz, we'd all be doomed. Mellie is the devil.
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I used to hate Mellie, but now I've come to realize that she is the only character on the show who does things and acts the way she acts for plausible reasons.

I thought having Fitz's father rape her was a bit manipulative on the part of the writers, but I loved seeing how Mellie was back in the day. It cemented in my mind that it was not her upbringing, debutante balls, or the Ivy league education that defined her, it wasn't the conservative blue blood running through her veins or her desire to get to the white house; meeting and marrying Fitz is what turned her into the cold, calculating, bitter/angry shrew that she is.

The man is like a plague infecting everyone he touches and effectively destroying them while he emerges pretty much unscathed. While almost everyone on this show has more than a little horrible in them, if when this show concludes Fitz gets any kind of a happy ending (outside of a rub and tug) I will RIOT.
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Riiight. She didn't break down long enough after being raped, what a horrible person. What has she done actually? Killed anyone? Nope. Got Fitz elected. Yes, but so did the saintly Olivia. Manipulated? Of course. But what has she actually done worse than any other character that she is so hated? Her husband is terrible to her and she still tried to make nice with the women he's sleeping with in order to get him reelected...and everyone blames her for being a bitch? She gave up quite a lot to help Fitz. Did it also help her out? Yes, but in the flashbacks you can see she genuinely cared for him. I don't understand why she is so hated and Olivia is so loved.
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Hey, don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say Mellie is horrible because she didn't suffer after the rape. I didn't say she's done worse than everyone else. And I didn't say Olivia is saintly. (I threw up my hands after "Vermont" - she's a hot mess.)

What makes Mellie stand out to me is not so much what she's done but how she reacts to her experiences. There's no sense of remorse, no accountability, no awareness of lines of right and wrong there. She is COMPLETELY amoral. Far more dangerous than being immoral. What makes her upset is when she's not given what she believes is her due, or when what she does isn't effective. Never that what she does might be "wrong".

Cyrus helped Sally into murder, and Fitz committed it outright. Huck has killed many. Even Quinn has killed. Rowan has masterminded quite a few, and we're only beginning to learn about Maya's resume. But Cyrus is horrified. Sally is in shock. Fitz is stoic but attracted to the Door Marked Exit because he's not happy with his entire existence. Huck is beyond damaged, and nobody's defending Rowan and Maya at this point. You saw Quinn's reaction. Even look at what Vera's sins did to her. But Mellie's reaction to her actions? To her, it's all grist for the mill. I don't think it's all for love of Fitz either; I think she loves the White House more at this point. It's certainly not her kids. I'm not sure she ever loved Fitz so much as she loved the idea of being married to POWER. Point is, there's no person inside her; she's just a machine full of avarice and lust for influence.
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I agree... I just really want Mellie to realize that she and Fitz are over. Until now, Cyrus has been saying things to her like "if you're a political animal, then I'm a political monster." The only thing holding her back is her hope that Fitz will love her again. But with Cyrus' decline, and a new love interest for Mellie on the horizon, I definitely want to see the Mellie that's being repressed under fake smiles, tailored suits, and perfectly quoiffed hair. I want to see the woman who got raped, who gave up her own life, career, and chance at a love life for a man who cheated on her. I want to see Mellie get her own revenge- and possibly become president?! For all those who say Fitz is the underestimated one on this show, they must never have seen Mellie.
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This show was always over-the-top but after the last couple of episodes it just went downhill and became ridiculous. Not even a spark of realism is present. Olivia being the child of a terrorist and a leader of a secret government organisation. Her mother fleeing after 22 years of imprisonment and still behaving normal? Huck spend less time in a dark hole and became totally crazy. Fitz not having control over B613.

This show is a joke. It started out with caricaturing politics and relationships in politics. It ended now with a war between three organisations, Gladiators, Government and B613, and it is not even attempting to make the war relatable or a bit more realistic. Last episode was just too much. It's the worst Homeland episodes combined with My Pretty Little Liars set on drugs. Good riddance, show.
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Because rigging an election is the height of realism. -.-
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Bye.
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I may be in the minority but I find 'ol Eli's little speech to Fitz totally pathetic. Let's see, he married a terrorist, he had 300 innocent people's blood on his hands, he hid a citizen away for 22 years just like a dictator would do. In truth, he's the head of world's largest terrorist organization (which B613 certainly is) for 22 years and unscrupulous power of matters such as killing people. The ability to play God does not make him more of "a man" than Fitz. At least Fitz was elected by someone. He had to earn that.

This is America not North Korea or Cuba. That character is a total joke for an otherwise exciting show.
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Really? Cause I though it was pretty amazing and extremely accurate. Eli definitely has problems no one can argue with that, and with what we know of him over the last 2 seasons has done a helluva lotta harm along with any good he has done. But aside from that, he did create Olivia, and while in the larger scheme of things that may not seem so relevant, to Fitz that pretty much is everything. Aside from the empathy that Olivia is able to feel towards her friends and family and clients, she is a lot like her father. And I would suspect that the cold and controlling way that he treated her as he grew up had a lot to do with what her mother made him do.

More on Eli:

Fitz took an order and killed 300 people. It hasn't seemed to effect him at all. Even after thinking that he had killed her mother, his response was to take Olivia out to some house in Vermont and bang.

It would seem on the other hand that Eli was destroyed. He cried. He hugged Olivia and then he sent her away. Perhaps he threw himself into his work. Maybe he became extremely cold and all super villainy to make sure that he was never fooled that way again. It seems like a plausible reason to why he and Olivia barely spoke for the next 8 -10 years.

Everything we need to know about Eli we learned in that room:

1. He is proud of Olivia
2. He doesn't believe that Fitz deserves her.
3. He is an angry, volatile and vengeful man
4. He is ashamed of blowing up that plane


Likewise we learned a lot about Fitz as well (granted it was stuff we already knew)

1. He does not have the proper amount of respect for Olivia
2. He has no idea what it is to be a man
3. He has low self esteem
4. He wants to be happy.

In my mind Eli won that showdown hard. But of course Fitz came back with the knockout by replacing him with Jake. What is a man with no job going to do when that job was all he had? My guess is Eli dies semi heroically next half trying to save Olivia or maybe Fitz from bad mamma Pope.

Whew (that was a lot longer than I intended).


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Defiance... he worked to get his job, send his daughter to school, etc. THAT is what he was saying made him a man... not money that was handed down to him. Fitz does seem to always whine about things.. Not in a baby way but, he was going to give up running for President because he was scared he couldn't win. He didn't want to run for President at all but his dad made him... smh. I like Fitz but sometimes I wonder about him...
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Fitz is your typical guy who doesn't want to work too hard to get what he wants. The hesitations to run, and etc. make sense in that light. And sometimes he gets blindsided by crazy love. Doesn't that sound like a normal guy? On the other hand, nothing normal about Rowan. As I mentioned the character is just too unreal to be meaningful. But as another poster puts it, the only constructive thing he did was when he and his terrorist wife made Olivia. Everything else was destruction.
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I think that maybe he didn't kill (mama pope) because she WAS Olivia's mom. I think the other things that he's done... He feels that they are a necessary evil due to help people sleep at night. If there WERE a bomb on the plane.. I could see him having to blow it up. I can see where that would justify killing and still leave a bad taste in his mouth. So he may not WANT to do something but will make the tough decisions. That could ALSO be why he didn't want B613 to have families. And his dislike of killing could have made throwing people (Huck/Jake) in the hole more preferable. I'm trying to think... I don't think that he has really killed anyone that didn't need to be killed, has he? (Yes, I try to look for the good in everyone LOL)
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Lol except that Fitz wasn't really elected... Defiance, anyone?
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No, I found his rant sad as well. And he didn't build anything. He destroyed. He hasn't built anything since he contributed to Olivia's conception. What is relaxing to note is that Fitz wasn't intimidated by any of it and was laying the groundwork to remove Rowan (Eli? which is it?) and kept his cool during the encounter.
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Yep. I liked Fitz's demeanor. He knew he got Rowan.
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Eli's "you're a boy" monologue to Fitz was just brilliant and amazingly written and it's impressive to see the arrested defenseless guy stand up this way to his president. Olivia's "Arrest her" order to him confirmed that he actually is a boy and always takes orders from her, I had never realised that before. Other than that, the finale was good but not as epic as last week's ep :(
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Oh and isn't it kinda sad how Abbie gets literally anything she wants from her boyfriend in the blink of an eye?? Isn't he supposed to work for justice?
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I think the description of this show as OMGTV is pretty accurate. Yes it is totally unrealistic - but then again can you say "Coven." I find it highly enjoyable, well-written and acted and a real roller coaster ride. Put me firmly in the Gladiators column - it is one of the few shows I make every effort to watch in its time slot rather than DVRing it.
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I may be in the minority but I'm actually finding the Quinn storyline to be really interesting. When they started this earlier this season, I kind of rolled my eyes but at this point where she's basically been kicked out of the Gladiators and is a scared dog in a corner, I'm interested to see what she does next. They have really assassinated Huck's character to get here though. Really, off all the terrible things he's done, of all the terrible things he's seen B613 do, of all the mistakes he's made, he can't understand how a) B613 could have manipulated Quinn into doing what she did and b) how he played a role in getting her there? It just didn't seem logical to me that he'd disown her and harbour such hatred to the point of genuinely wanting to murder her just because she made a lapse in judgement that he kind of sparked. I hoped he'd try to help bring her back but now I'm pretty sure he'll be on the recieving end of Quinn's torture at some point.
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WOW... we have to wait till MARCH to watch more scandal???????
sooooooo long...NOT COOL...im glad they are still showing season 2 in australia :)))
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I am usually 100 % behinc TV.com but this review was insulting to people who actually enjoy Scandal.

Either TV.com commits to review it or just ignore it altogether. The latter will be much better than what you just did.
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I wasn't insulted.
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You didn't get Cory's tongue-in-cheek style. That's okay. The show's not boring, and Cory's laughing when he says that. But I'll say that if he were being serious about it, not agreeing with the fans is not "insulting to people who actually enjoy Scandal". A review is not a fanboi, fawning puff piece. And the idea that only people who like a show should review it is Facebook mentality (your only choice is the "Like" button). Reviews are a critique - good and bad. They are not an attempt to determine what the fan base thinks and agree with it. Cory obviously gets the show, and has followed it even when not providing a review. This was an excellent review.
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You did not get my point. I would never ask a critique to only review shows they enjoy or to only be positive in their reviews. However, I would expect them to write a constructive review. That did not happen.

Thank you for your insight on what reviews are.
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What is a "constructive review"? Is that some way to advise and help the show's writers? What are they trying to "construct"?
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Agreed. The people reading the reviews are generally fans of the show who enjoy it. You guys didn't write a review all this time, why write one now to basically say "Scandal sucks guys, move on." I could understand if it was generally agreed upon that the show is bad, by all means don't gloss over flaws but the general tone of this review was "I hate what I'm writing about and so should you." I actually have really enjoyed this season, especially the past three episodes.
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There's way too much going on in this show for it to not have a weekly review. I'm still wondering why OUAT and Revenge are getting weekly review when they are tanking in viewership and quality while Scandal's audience has grown.

I don't think this season has necessarily been bad, but I think the show is just really trying to get us to care about things that aren't all that compelling, particularly the plot concerning Olivia's Mother, which has kind of completely derailed the show from being about politics and switched to Olivia's past. Scandal has always worked best as a political thriller because that world is so engaging. I think that's why I find everything happening in the white house much more interesting than B613.

Here's what I'm not liking:

- Huck and Quinn. Working together, they were so compelling. Now Quinn is trapped in a subplot that does far too little with her character and has stripped away the Huck we've grown to love over the course of the series. I would love to see this scrapped or Quinn off the show completely.

- What about the other gladiators? I still feel like I know too little about them 3 seasons in.

- I agree with the review's points on Mellie. We already know she's strong and awesome and probably my favorite character right now. Yet, she's been pretty much shoved to the side.

- Cyrus and James. Basically, Cyrus does something awful. James yells at him. They get back together. Boring.

- Why aren't main characters dying? There SO many of them.

I was glad to see this episode reset a lot of the plots. Like I said before, the week-to-week cases can be very interesting and they reconnect the show with politics. When Olivia is fixing these political scandals, she seems much more confident and compelling than when she is being emotionally distraught by her parents.

Anyway, just some thoughts!
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Totally agree.... I have been missing the weekly fixes.... I am not emotionally attached to the mother storyline, nor the father storyline much either....take us back to the white house.

This whole name dropping hints thing of Harrison, of things to come but not coming yet....omg! Stop it! If thats all you gonna give us just wait till we have more room to transition than starting so far in advance and giving us nothing!

Boy that Jake can kiss....rewind!
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this show's destroyed beyond repair, the 3 months hiatus couldn't come at a better time!!!!
season2 was unbelievably great but the first half of s3's a masquerade.
instead of focusing on Huck's possibly reuniting with his family, they prefered turning him into a maniac who tortures the ones he loves, I guess the family's better off W/o after all.
Cyrus was great: a man who wants to get back to his job right after a heart attack deserves a nobel, evn in Tv land, but now he's plain utter garbage ; & don't even get me started on Mellie who became the "nicest" character on this show since she was raped by her father in law, cuz that's what I call mind controlling.
I don't get how I've come to despise this show I loved so much, that's probably all of the above and more, I hope I'm not the only one to feel so & stuff's gonna be done to fix it, cuz I can no longer endure any more conspirations, God forgive you Shonda Rhimes cuz you've sinned.....
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I really shouldn't have read these reviews... I was shoving these thoughts right to the back of my mind because there's a lot of crap out there that I am watching and this seems pretty decent.... until you all are saying what I didn't want to say!
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In my own honest opinion, I find the show to be boring, extremely soapy and ridden with over the top acting. I have heard a lot of people use the words "political thriller" to describe it, but it doesn't even come close at all.
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Have you even seen season 2?
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A couple of years before he died, I had the pleasure of watching Larry Hagman in an "I Dream of Genie" panel at DragonCon. Inevitably, a question on his time on Dallas came up. I'll never forget his answer: "It was the best cartoon I was ever on." He talked about the over-the-top characters and plots of the show. That's what we have here with Scandal. A great cartoon with over-the-top characters and plots. It's the fun escapism of a wild imagination. Somehow I think Shandra Rhymes is in a room screaming and laughing with her writers saying "how much further can we take it?!"

The "boy" speech was the best, followed by Cyrus' "devil" speech while in his underwear. One bares his chest while the other bares his soul. It's fun, it's exaggerated, it's unbelievable; and I wouldn't want it any other way! Except maybe give Harrison more of a subplot; show him some "love" too. Can't wait until February!
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If this guy thinks the last 10 episodes have been boring and un Scandal....I have no idea what he thinks would be interesting Tv and what scandal he was watching before. This show has repeatedly out done it self and ramped it up. Everytime you think you know whats happening it hits you in the face with a twist.
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I think I watched the 'Interrogation' differently from everyone else.

See, I've always felt sorry for Fitz. his entire life, he's been directed and used by those around him; first his dad, then Mellie, and lately the powerful shadows he is surrounded by in office. Every time he tries to do something for himself, somebody ruins it or shits on him for it - he wanted to fly and escape his dad's influence, so joins the Air Force then has to shoot down a civilian plane. He wanted Mellie, and his father tried to take her from him. He wants Olivia, and he's told he doesn't deserve her. He wanted to leave office, and was told he had to run again. In short, everyone thinks him this spoiled brat, but every time he tries to shrug that off, it is prevented by those around him.

And then the last episode happened.

I'm pretty sure the interrogation scene went exactly as Fitz wanted. He had Eli there not to answer questions or lord himself over the guy; that's what he wanted Eli and the viewers to believe.

He had Eli there to destroy him.

He kept Papa Pope locked up just long enough to effect a change in regime. He sat there and took every bit of vitriol that Eli had to toss out - angry, bitter, broken Eli, whose only venture into love ended in betrayal, and he never got over - and barely reacted. Fitz, who has watched his marriage fall into sham, who has watched the people he loves betray him and hate him, dealt with that betrayal and hardship inside of about a year, and came out sane. Eli has held a grudge for over two decades and lets it colour everything he does, still.

How did Fitz get to this point? By damn near losing everything. Something Eli thought he had gone through, but never really did.

Fitz held Eli just long enough to take away the one thing he still had - his power. His influence, his position, what ever you want to call it, Fitz took it from him, and didn't have to kill anyone to do it.

During that whole encounter, Fitz stayed cool while Eli let his emotions control him. Eli, the spymaster, the manipulator, the controller, the one who looked at his opponent called him names, he lost that encounter, but walked out thinking he had won.

Fitz, 'the boy', the petulant child, the one who never had to fight or work, he sat there and took it... and then gave Eli a giant middle finger at the end of the day.

Eli got the better speech, yes. But Fitz got the victory.
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I see this differently. Fitz was holding Eli just as he said, until Maya got off the plane. But OLIVIA came and questioned her dad in front of Fitz showing that her dad shot down a plane of civilians in error. THAT is what got Eli fired from B613. Olivia... Fitz had nothing to do with it. It was a coincidence.
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Usually, I would let such an opinion slide, since we all interpret things differently. However, previous episodes will show that Fitz has been gunning for Eli for a while. So, I can't agree that his removal had nothing to to do with Fitz. The Prez, at the very least, had a hand in it if he didn't actually orchestrate it all himself.
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Oh no, I mean he capitalized on the information. But he didn't set out to get it. He didn't know about it. It was a coincidence that he found out. So yes, I know that he was gunning for him. But all he set out to do when he put him in that room was to hold him.
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Yes I agree with you all. Impressive...but common, Eli is nothing to trifle with...he will get his pay back.... and he does not do things by halves. Exciting!
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Wow! Thanks for the completely different take on this. I was actually wondering why Fitz stayed so calm. I'd have punched Eli at least once.
Everyone definitely underestimates Fitz. This would be a perfect way of using that against them in order further his own plans.
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well said and I couldn't agree more
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Hope some of the Fitz haters read this. I agree he was in control and actually managed to outdo Eli. Didn't see that coming myself.
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I'm a Fitz hater. I read it. Interesting theory, but I still hate Fitz.

On Sons of Anarchy last week the D.A told Jax two important things (the anti hero of the show for those who don't watch)

1. "Do you ever struggle with your need to be a good man? ... Whatever decisions happen today, the outcome lands on you. "

2. "Own your place"

Man I wish she was talking to Fitz.

After everything that Fitz has done and been a part of he continues to act and react like a victim. When he stops, maybe I'll stop hating him.
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Thank you! I believe everyone underestimates Fitz. And he allows them to because he's always looking down the road to the end game.
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Liv, Fitz, Cyrus, James, Huck, Quinn, Sally...I'm not sure I've seen so many people who are supposed to be complete badasses act like complete pansies all at the same time. And by pansies I mean complete turn on any self principal they might have held so yes, this is the biggest collection of terrible human beings on TV.

Eli is clearly a bad guy, but he gets a pass since him ripping Fitz up one side and down another gave me a warm fuzzy feeling. A feeling I've been waiting for since mid way through season one and a lambasting I've been desperate to hear from "the formidable Oliva Pope". I guess Papa Pope will have to do, even if he is a terrible human being and completely disillusioned about how formidable his daughter really is. But that's okay. That speech gives him a one episode get out of jail free card.

Just when I thought I couldn't be more disgusted by a TV character, Fitz raises the bar with, "I'm screwing her you know. Every chance I get. The things I could tell you. About the way she tastes. She's quite a girl". Was he trying to get a rise out of Eli? Sure. But that statement absolutely, positively confirmed Fitz to be the piece of garbage I've always known him to be. There literally aren't enough bad things that could happen to his character for as long as this show is on the air. So much so that I want to see Mama Pope and Papa Pope get back together for the sole purpose of making this little piss ant's life as miserable as humanly possible.

Going forward...Jake's gone. Mom's gone. Dad's gone. This doesn't bode well for Oliva falling back to her safe zone of letting Fitz treat her like a whore. BOOO!!! My only hope is that whoever this dude is that Cyrus let back in the country that Harrison is scared of provides Liv and the rest of the team with a big enough distration to keep from doing anything stupid. Let the Sr Popes deal with Fitz and David with Sally and Cyrus.

I'm genuinely concerned for this show...or at least, my enjoyment of it.
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I enjoyed this episode a lot. Many of the "mysteries" were solved. It was a verbal battle between Fitz and Eli and Eli won !

Quinn's actions seems to show she is in love with Huck and had been for a long time. I thought she came back to Olivia to apologize to her but she came back for him. When Huck pushes her off because Huck is only loyal to Olivia, she went back to Charlie.

I do love it that Olivia loves her people even the one that betrays her. I guess that is why many of them loved her back with undying loyalty, just not Quinn.

I also loved it that Olivia can order the president of the United States to secretly shipped off a wanted fugitive and then ordered him to arrest her the minute she step off the plane. I mean the way she said it seems literally that Fitz is in her command. Well, I guess in a way he is.

So Millie and Cyrus scheme all day and night to give power to a man who is at the command of Olivia. Go figure.

One thing I had problem with. Even for the most devoted fan who loved Scandal will always have some issue with Scandal. That is the show.

How did Jake take over Eli's position so easily? Can the President appoint someone to be the head? I mean Eli had that position for more than 20 years right? Surely it is not so easy for Jake just to take over like that. If they had shown a more elaborate plot, it would then seem more possible.
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Jake taking eli's place in B613 was my only problem with this episode. what exactly did Fitz do to accomplish? he is very incompetent and stupid.
"you are a boy" that should have been the title of this episode; eli really did put fitz in his place. how did the boy get one over on the man i seriously don't know and i didn't like it.

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Exactly my sentiments so I do hope there is some explanation next year.
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Right!! Eli kept saying I'm above your pay grade!! Yet at the end of the episode he has been replaced?? WTF?!
That should've been explained!!
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I liked this episode i didnt love it. i didnt really love it because i thought it would of be a stronger ended than it was like last weeks episode was really strong and this weeks was a little down graded but it all i think i enjoyed watching this episode
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I actually enjoy Scandal for the cases of the week, and all the stupid things that OPA's clients get into. The longer arcs were alright at first, but the ones of late esp. Remington are just tiresome.

The ick factor has also increased exponentially in the last few episodes. Hate it. Between Maya Pope's wrist-chewing and Quinn's teeth-pulling and even that close-up of Cyrus puking in the finale, it makes me wonder whether it was this gratuitous in season 1. (And still I watch this show. Sigh.)

But kudos to Eli/Rowan Pope's blast of Fitz. I'm just flabbergasted that Fitz would say all those things about Olivia to her father, just to get a rise out of him. Yuck yuck yuck Fitz.
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GUYS. Joking about the 'boring' thing!
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Kinda did it to yerself, dincha? You brought the snark so hard it was difficult to tell. But of course it's not boring. The entire show is insane, and we want more.
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I don't think you are, Cory! I think B613 has gotten to you! ;)
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Scandal didn't get boring, but it did get bad, at times anyway....

I am not hate-watching when ever there is an Olitz scene, or anything with the President. Watching the scene where Papa Pope put Fitz in his place after Fitz tried to provoke him by talking about banging Olivia was epic, exciting (for me, ahem) and not nearly long enough. The President IS that entitled, coddled, douche that Rowan so beautifully described. How he got women like Mellie and Olivia to fall head over heels for him I will never understand.

The mom plot is a literal ripp off from Alias so nothing that they reveal is new or exciting. Snooze, next storyline please (though I guess we have to wait until next season for that).

I catch myself rooting for Sally Langston (what's wrong with me), but I think she's out now? Right? Or could she still run? I had to do a major eyeroll at Paul Adelstein's line about how she would "slaughter" the incumbent if she ran as an I in the general. RIGHT. Since Kudrow is also out, where does this leave the presidential politics? Just President Douchebag coasting to re-election with OPA working for him? I hope not.
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Correction: NOW hate-watching.
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i miss lisa kudrow, she would make a better president than fitz. i think the withdrew too quickly, maybe she didn't really want the job.
if fitz is still running despite all the "scandal" that surrounds him i m sure she could have too
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Definitely! I hate that they use these unrealistic candidates though, first term congresswoman from Montana and someone running as an Independent would have zero to no chances of being taken seriously, even if it is against what seems like the lamest President ever. He was Governor of CA, can't they at least make his opponent's positions seem more realistic? Because Kudrow's candidate was great, just not her role prior to running... Now what's left is Reston (the killer, LOL they all have flaws on Scandal) who is a governor right? And a Democrat, so even though he's a killer he seems better than Fitz (who killed more than 300 people).
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I watched the pilot of this show and instantly found most of the characters annoying so watched no more... Did the show improve / change a lot from the pilot, or is the pilot a good indicator of the feel of the show?
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Ignore Series 1 and go back to it later to fill in some of the blanks.
Its perfectly clear the writers didn't know what they had got until Series 2.
Start with 2:1.
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I had the same experience that you described - Just watchted the pilot and thought it was crap. I picked up again not long time agon after so many people were recommending the show. It is a heavy soap with conspiracy stuff and a lot of stuff happens. In any case, it is a lot better than what I saw in the pilot. Specially season 2. Season 3 goes a bit down the hill but it's still ok to watch. So I'd say, maybe try a few more episodes, at least till half season 1, to see if you find it more interesting.
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Thats great, thanks for the advice. I'll try a few more!
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Season 1 was more about Olivia Pope and his team managing scandals. It was only 7 episodes and more of procedural. Season 2 was anything but. It was very exciting. However now in season 3, in order to keep the same level of excitement, the show pushes things so far that some people thought it was ridiculous and stop watching. I know many others like myself just ride along with it.

Many of the characters are not likable but the show is fun and move at very fast pace.
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I don't think it became boring as whole, but I do think the mom plot just dragged everything down. A shift back to Olivia actually managing scandals (I miss you Lisa Kudrow) would be welcomed, and help the show take a moment to breathe. The constant go-go-go last week and this week just can't be maintained.

It's still probably the most fun hour in my TV watching, especially when Joe Morton gets to chomp on scenery, making speeches that sound like one thing but are in fact thinly veiled discourses about racial disparity in the country republic.
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