Season 8 Episode 15

The Susie

Aired Thursday 9:00 PM Feb 13, 1997 on NBC
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Episode Summary

Kramer decides that daylight saving time isn't coming fast enough, so he sets his watch ahead an hour. Mike, the guy who once referred to Jerry as "a phony," has become a bookie. Peggy, a co-worker of Elaine's calls her "Susie." George is excited about Steinbrenner's ball. He hopes to show off his tall blonde girlfriend with a grand entrance. Instead, she says she wants to talk. He runs away. "If she can't find me, she can't break up with me." He really wants to make that big entrance at the ball. Kramer tells Jerry that he owes Mike $100 for a bet he made on that night's Knicks game. Only Jerry never made the bet; Kramer did it for him. In fact, Kramer attends the game and gets into a fight with a key player that causes Jerry to win his bet. Peggy starts talking to "Susie" about Elaine's memo. Peterman hearing about the complaints demands to see Elaine, Peggy and "Susie" in his office; first thing in the morning. Mike can't pay Jerry, so he offers to help him with his trunk problem, but instead gets his thumbs broken for the trouble. Kramer breaks up with George on behalf of Allison. Elaine makes it through the morning meeting. Mike gets trapped in Jerry's trunk. Elaine and Jerry, in his car, decide it would be best to eliminate "Susie." George reconciles with Kramer. Elaine delivers the eulogy at "Susie's" wake, much to the confusion of Peggy. Kramer, with George, makes a spectacular entrance at the ball. Mike escapes from Jerry's trunk and accuses him of murder. The same fate befalls Elaine that befell George; Peterman puts her in charge of a foundation in "Susie's" honor.moreless

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  • Elaine is mistaken at work for a woman named "Susie" and her efforts to correct the situation only make it worse; meanwhile Jerry gets involved with a bookie and George- anticipating Steinbrenner's ball- avoids his girlfriend who's trying to break up withmoreless

    Seinfeld began to slide after their golden Fourth Season. Although the show would still occasionally achieve greatness the episodes were becoming broad and silly... as a viewer I found myself laughing at the outrageousness of the contrived premises and not at the premises themselves. "The Susie" is among the worst five episodes of Seinfeld.

    Julia Louis-Dreyfus, a weak comedienne at best, is at her worst here. When her office co-worker Peggie mistakenly refers to her as "Susie," Elaine decides not to correct her but to play along. Dreyfus, whose only method for expressing anxiety was to cough weakly, allows Peggy to call her Susie and badmouth "this Elaine Benes character." We're supposed to be laughing at the impossible mix-up... the trouble is it isn't funny.

    Kramer for no apparent reason decides to abandon daylight-savings time- a premise that is as rich as it is funny. Jerry runs into a freakish bald dwarf who years earlier called him "phony" and learns the man's become a bookie. George, anticipating Steinbrenner's upcoming Yankee formal ball, is avoiding his unhappy girlfriend so she won't be able to break up with him before the big event. As usual at this point in the series the subplots are little more than labored setups for a finale in which they all intertwine to middling effect. Kramer "represents" George's girlfriend and breaks up with George, Jerry wins a significant amount of money from the dwarf bookie who is unable to pay, and Kramer- as a result of his hilarious time change- is early.

    This is all window-dressing to the main plot which features the unfunny Elaine leading a double identity at work as both herself and the nonexistent Susie. J. Peterman, clueless as ever, calls all three women- Elaine, Peggy and Susie- into his office to get the problem straightened out. What follows is a scene so stilted that all humor is drained... somehow Elaine is able to fool both Peterman and Peggy about the existence of Susie by talking in freakishly strange third-person sentences.

    What finally caps off this terrible outing is the finale. Elaine feels that the Susie situation has gotten out of control, so she decides to "kill her off," and hold a fake funeral for a woman who never even existed. A casket is purchased, a memorial service held... and dozens of mourners show up to honor a woman who was never real. Elaine gives the eulogy, unfunny and overwrought, and J. Peterman rises to confess to having slept with Susie during a moment of unbridled passion. Is he a liar? Insane? It's never explained because the dwarf bookie bursts in, broken thumbs in a cast, convinced that Jerry is a master criminal and had Susie killed. The episode was so bad I was actually embarassed for everyone involved.

    Jerry Seinfeld once said, "When you're working on a TV show suddenly bad ideas start to seem like good ideas..." I think that's the only way to explain this episode. It's dumb, it's unfunny and it's cartoonishly absurd. I'm a die-hard Seinfeld fan, but there were moments when even I could not deny how low the show had sunk... this was one of those times.moreless
  • The Susie

    Having an Elaine-centric episode is never a good idea and you saw that tonight as this was not exactly one of Seinfeld's best episodes of all time. That being said, my score of eight out of ten is still very fair for this program as you did laugh in the beginning, during the middle and at the end. The bit with Kramer hating Daylight Savings Time was great as was Jerry's cynical, yet true response of people just knowing because they tell you the night before.

    If you're on the fence about watching this, watch it, but there are definitely better episodes out there.moreless
  • While this episode is hilarious on its own merits, one really needs to see the bloopers form the DVD.

    About of the quarter of the bloopers from season 8 are from this episode, and it's a scream. Peterman speaks from the podium about the sweet smell of the liquid paper leading to a sexual encounter with "Susie." Julia Louis-Dreyfus can barely keep a straight face. There must have been at least 10 re-shoots to get this episode together. If you do not have the DVDs for the series, the blooper reels are available on various torrent sites. Enjoy. Now I have to keep writing about nothing to get to 100 words, and I'm getting very very very very close.moreless
  • You knoiw susie like I know susie!

    Elaine got into trouble with her fellow employee so she made up a person of susie and the office brough it. The look at susie as a person, made up by elaine. when susie got on her nerves she made another lie saying that susie has die. the office believe her lie and had a funeral and foundation named after her. It was a coun terpoint to a "Fat Albert" epiosde about lying. If you lie the lie will grow. Meanwhile, a $100 bet involved Jerry's friend Mike as lead to an accident involving broken thumbs. for some reason that has a Susie connection.moreless
  • Has its moments.

    As is typical of post Series 8 Seinfeld this isn't up there with the best of 1990s comedy but there is still plenty of fun to be had.

    Jerry's emotional detachment at the memorial is very funny, even if (SPOILER-) the number of people who attend is very unrealistic for a fictionalised woman. (SPOILER ENDS)

    George's comical answer machine message is the kind of humour more typical of Friends than Seinfeld, but it's a breath of fresh air into an eight year old show and it did make me titter.

    This episode, which hangs leather clad and airborne above a shark below, is a good example of a fantastic cast making the most of sub par material. The bizarre post-relationship interaction between George and Kramer doesn't seem typical of their past bond but is made hilarious by the acute observation and delivery of both Michael Kramer and Jason Alexander.moreless
Lee Arenberg

Lee Arenberg

Mike Moffit

Guest Star

Shannon Kenny

Shannon Kenny


Guest Star

Megan Cole

Megan Cole


Guest Star

John O'Hurley

John O'Hurley

J. Peterman

Recurring Role

Richard Herd

Richard Herd


Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (16)

    • When Kramer is telling Jerry and Elaine about the Knicks vs. Pacers game and mentions that he got into a fight with Reggie Miller, Elaine asks if Reggie Miller is Cheryl Miller's little brother. Then later, Elaine says "I didn't even know Cheryl Miller had a little brother." How would she assume that Reggie was Cheryl's little brother to start out with, Miller is a very popular surname in the United States.

    • At the end of the episode, Elaine can clearly be heard screaming "Suze", but for some reason the subtitles list it as "Susie".

    • In the scene where Peterman pulls up in his car at the funeral home, notice the illogical parking.

    • In this episode they cut back and forth between a daytime funeral and a "simultaneous" nighttime bar scene.

    • If George hung up the phone when he was on the line with Jerry and the other line clicked when he hung up both calls should have been lost but the phone still rang for his girlfriend

    • In regards to Kramer's watch, it's quite possible that after the hot tub incident he decided to use one. Think about it: he realized that he really couldn't rely on his "internal clock," so he got a watch instead. Simple enough.

    • Kramer clearly says that he doesn't use clocks, he tells time by the sun.

    • Kramer complains about it getting dark too early so he springs forward so that it will get dark later...not a goof that is exactly what he intended to do

    • Kramer never said he didn't use clocks he said he doesn't use alarm clocks.

    • Elaine screaming "Suse" and the camera from above is just like the end of "The Foundation" when George does this in the coffee shop and yells "Kahn".

    • Mike Moffit gets locked in Jerry's trunk and overhears Jerry and Elaine talking about Susie, and misinterprets their conversation to mean they plan to murder someone named Susie. Later Elaine tells Peterman that Susie took her own life. The next day Jerry and Elaine attend Susie's funeral and Mike is still in the trunk. Meaning he must have been in there for days.

    • When Elaine gets up from her chair to speak at Susie's funeral, she places her coat on the seat next to her (so it's two seats away from Jerry). But the next time the camera cuts back to the seats, the coat has jumped one seat, to Elaine's chair (right next to Jerry).

    • George is talking on a cordless phone but the phone rings.
      Cordless phones beep.

    • Kramer complains about it getting dark early yet they spring forward. In springtime it gets dark later.

    • This isn't a goof anyway! They didn't do this by accident! That was the joke. The end is a repeat of The Foundation. Note Peterman telling Elaine that he wanted to start a foundation that she could run around her free time.

    • Kramer sets his watch to daylight saving time, but in a previous episode "The Hot Tub" he tells Jerry that he doesn't use clocks and he keeps mental track of time.

  • QUOTES (13)

    • Peterman: Between you, me, and the lamppost... and the desk, Peggy says this Suse isn't much of a worker.
      Elaine: It's Susie.
      Peterman: Nevertheless Elaine, the House of Peterman is in disorder.

    • Elaine: You won't believe this, but as I'm leaving she calls me Susie.
      Jerry: I don't see you as a Susie. Sharon, maybe.
      Elaine: What am I, a bulimic, chain-smoking stenographer from Staten Island?

    • Mike Moffit: Guess what? I just started my own business. I'm a bookie.
      Jerry: No openings in arson?

    • Peterman: Elaine, I'm going to start a charitable foundation in Susie's honor and, as Susie's best friend, I want you to be involved.
      Elaine: Mr. Peterman (whispers) I'm Susie. She's me.
      Peterman: (also whispering) I feel the same way.
      Elaine: (looks bewildered)
      Peterman: That's why this foundation will meet around your schedule. Nights, weekends, every free moment you have. (pats her on the shoulder and leaves)
      Elaine: SUUUUUUUUUUUUUZE!!!!

    • Elaine: Look, we don't have to name names or point fingers or…name names! Me and her have had our problems. She and I have had our problems. You and I and she and you.
      Peterman: Don't you drag me into this. This is between you and her and her.
      Elaine: Yes! And I'm convinced that if she were here with us today, she would agree with me too.
      Peterman: Who?
      Elaine: (weakly) Her.
      Peterman: Where is she?!
      Elaine: Ah, this is part of the problem.
      Peggy: I thought I was part of this problem?
      Elaine: You're a Huge part of the problem. But, I think that at its core, this is a Susie and Elaine problem that requires a Susie and Elaine solution. And who better to do that than…(pauses) Elaine and Susie, Susie and Elaine!
      Peterman: Well, now that we have that cleared up, why don't the three of us have lunch?
      Elaine: (pretends she heard someone in the hall) What! Oh, I'm…coming! I-I gotta go. (runs out)
      Peterman: (to Peggy) She is the best. What was your name again?

    • (Kramer bursts in)
      Kramer: The Knicks killed 'em 110 to 73!
      Jerry: What, of course, without Reggie Miller, it's a blowout.
      Kramer: No, Jerry, that's 37 points! The Knicks covered! You won! Now that's a cool gee, daddy-o. Now ya gotta let it ride.
      Jerry: On what!?
      Kramer: Come on Jerry, I don't want to lose this feeling!

    • Kramer: By the way, you owe Mike a hundred dollars.
      Jerry: What for?
      Kramer: Well, I put down a bet for ya on tonight's game. If the Knicks beat the Pacers by more than 35, it pays 10:1. That's some sweet action!
      Jerry: But I don't want any sweet action!

    • George: Wait till you see the dress that she's got. It's backless! Eh? I'm finally gonna make a great entrance!
      Elaine: Backless? You're gonna back her in?
      George: Elaine, when a woman makes a ball entrance, she twirls.
      Elaine: She's not gonna twi…
      George: She'll twirl!

    • George: This woman is gentically engineered to go to a ball. Tall, blonde, lithe.
      Jerry: Live?
      Elaine: Lithe!
      George: Live?
      Elaine: Lithe!
      Jerry: Oh, lithe!

    • George: My whole life, I've never made a great entrance!
      Jerry: You've made some fine exits.

    • Jerry: I thought you went to the game?
      Kramer: Naw, I was kicked out for fighting with one of the players.
      Jerry: Who?
      Kramer: Reggie Miller.
      Elaine: Cheryl Miller's brother?
      (After Kramer leaves the room and is done explaining the scenario)
      Jerry: Can you believe that?
      Elaine: I didn't know Cheryl Miller's little brother played basketball.

    • Mike Moffit: (bursting into Susie's 'wake') Susie didn't commit suicide! She was murdered… by Jerry Seinfeld!

    • George: Maybe I'll call you sometime.
      Kramer: George, it's over.
      George: What do you think, Jerry?
      Jerry: I don't know. I didn't see you guys together.

  • NOTES (3)

    • Mike Moffit (Lee Arenberg) returns in this episode since he appeared in the season 3 episode "The Parking Space."

    • Peterman puts Elaine in charge of a foundation in "Susie's" memory. The foundation will be scheduled around Elaine's every free moment. This is just like the Susan Ross Foundation which George was put in charge of. Also note that both foundations were in memory of Susies/Susans. She also screams into the air at the end like George did.

    • The lyrics to George's singing phone message:

      Believe it or not,
      George isn't at home,
      Please leave a message at the beep.
      I must be out, or I'd pick up the phone,
      Where could I be?
      Believe it or not, I'm not home.

      The words are a parody of the theme song to the series "The Greatest American Hero." That song became a top 40 hit for singer Joey Scarbury in 1981.


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