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    Gislef

    [1]Jul 27, 2005
    • member since: 04/22/05
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    After much consideration, review of TV.com policy, and listening to folks both for and against the various issues, we've decided to discontinue all game and chain-type threads in the Smallville discussion forum, as they don't meet TV.com's definition of "on topic" threads.

    TV.com specifically created blogs so folks could have games, personal conversations, fan clubs, chats, etc. Any and all such games, chain-type threads, lounges, fan clubs, and any other off-topic subjects can and should go to blogs.

    Fan fiction remains an iffy subject but appears to raise enough problems with copyright violation to make it a violation of Terms of Use as well.

    Discussion of TV.com and forum policy is off-topic on the Smallville discussion forum since they don't concern the Smallville TV series, characters, storylines, etc. You can PM the show editor, and after that the general policy forums.

    Discussion of comics, other TV shows, movies, etc., should also tie in specifically to discussion of the Smallville TV series. Otherwise it's off-topic here.

    Any new off-topic threads posted here will be sent on to the moderation staff for resolution.

    The occasional straying post is not a concern, but extended personal discussions and thread hijacking are.

    If you wish to advertise personal sites, fan clubs, etc., include them in your signature or your blog, not on the forum.

    All of this is in accordance with TV.com's Terms of Use and has been discussed with TV.com staff. If you have any questions or concerns about TV.com policy, you should address them to a staff member.

    Updated 11/07/05

    Terms of Use still apply for posting stuff that isn't yours. It all has to do with copyright protecton and the fact that some sites don't like their stuff being taken and posted elsewhere. (Very) brief excerpts are okay. Otherwise put in a link.

    Make sure to put Spoilers in your topic header if you have spoilers. If you must put a spoiler on a post within someone else's thread, please use spoiler tags. While fan fiction isn't allowed, brief speculation on upcoming episodes is allowed, as is, "Wonder what they'll do next year?" kinda things. Brief story suggestions aren't fan fiction. Outlines for fantasy seasons are.

    Please don't create Official Discussion Threads. I'd rather avoid either races or competing threads. Yes, some people like to create one even after someone else does - go figure. I'll create one a few days before a new episode premieres, and may or may not convert an existing one. There's some stuff I have to do to set it up properly, and it's easiest if I do it from the get-go. Before an official discussion thread goes up, feel free to discuss (following Spoiler rules above as necessary), but try to find an existing thread first that is suitable. After the thread goes up, direct discussion to the official thread.

    Updated 12/02/05

    When creating new threads, please try to make them discussion rather then polls, so we don't end up with tons of one-liners. thus "Who is your favorite character?" - not so good. "Who is your favorite character, and why?" - better.

    Updated 1/31/06

    The best way to perpetuate a thread you don't like or don't agree with is to post on it.

    The best way to encourage a troll is to respond to them. If you respond to them, quote them, etc., your posts will be moderated as well.

    If someone is violating forum policy, use the moderation-report system.

    Posting you have nothing to say on a thread is off-topic, and will be moderated accordingly. Commenting on the way a thread is going is off-topic.

    Don't create a thread or make a post just to make an example, or prove a point.

    If you do something in the first post you create for a thread that is a violation and we moderate/delete, the entire thread is lost. So watch things like Censor Bypassing, etc. We're not going to edit a post to make it acceptable - that's your job.

    Flaming and Flame Wars

    There is a difference between debate and flaming. Or to put it another way, respond to the argument, not the user. Saying why something someone says is incorrect (as much as you can say any opinion is "incorrect"), is one thing. Saying they're dumb, or "baloney," or not entitled to post their opinion, is another.

    Posting that you're going to report someone is off-topic, and almost guaranteed to start/maintain a flame war.

    There is no such thing as "defensive" flaming. If you respond to a flame with a flame, you're flaming. If you quote someone else flaming, well...you're responsible for everything that's in your post, and your content will be moderated accordingly.

    The shorter your post, the more likely it is not "reasonable and informed criticism and debate." A quick one-sentence post, especially one going against the initial point of a thread or opposing another user's argument, is more likely to be considered a driveby flame or troll, and moderated accordingly.

    Off-Topic

    If you start your post with "It might be off-topic," or "Sorry to go off-topic" or whatever, while we appreciate your honesty, it'll still be deleted and considered Off-Topic.

    Posting to tell someone what they're posting is off-topic or inappropriate is off-topic. Just report it and let it go. If it doesn't go away, then you were wrong.

    Updated 6/18/06

    Whether the show is on or not with new episodes, no matter how bored folks are, forum rules above still apply. There's a perfectly good Off-Topic Forum to discuss movies, etc.

    In case it isn't clear from above when talking about "posting stuff that isn't yours", let's repeat: posting of any copyrighted image, including photographs and images from comic books (which are typically off-topic anyway) is not allowed. It's also a violation of Terms of Service and has nothing to do with discussion forums and discussing stuff.

    Updated 7/14/06

    Yes, we have polls! Still, this remains a discussion forum. Use polls to supplement discussion, not in place of discussion. Threads created just to run a poll will be moderated accordingly.

    Updated 9/29/06

    Videos: Since we all respect copyright law and the creative rights of musicians, directors, etc., posting of links to videos that violate copyright law (music and/or episode clips) are not allowed.

    If you miss an episode, use Google if you need to to find legal download sites. Given the information is widely available on the Internet, doesn't involve discussion on this discussion forum, and inevitably generates a number of illegal site listings, any posts/requests for "episodes" here will be considered a violation of forum policy and treated appropriately.

    Updated 1/29/07

    Minor deviations from the topic are fine and happen. If a topic goes off-topic for a page or more, it'll be assumed the thread has reached its natural conclusion and will be locked.
    Edited on 04/24/2009 2:30pm
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    Gislef

    [2]Nov 21, 2006
    • member since: 04/22/05
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    I'll probably roll this and the above into one new document and repost, but for now, a few updates/clarifications.

    Repeated violations will result in suspension and/or banning.

    No spoilers

    Not everyone here sees the show when it airs. Some of our members in foreign markets may not see it for several weeks/months. Thread titles sometimes appear on the main forum when Smallville shows up there as a popular show. A title should never include a spoiler. If you're creating a thread that may have spoilers, put "(spoiler warning)" in the title of the thread. Putting a spoiler in the title and saying (spoiler warning) is not acceptable, or very smart.

    No games

    Folks have abused this in the past, and appear to be interested in abusing it in the present. This is a discussion forum. Take it to the TV Show Fun & Games forum, that's what it was created for.

    General and specific episode discussion goes to the official episode thread

    This is primarily to avoid spoilers but also to keep the discussion in one spot where people can find it. Yes, many people want to create their own thread so they can have their topic near the top, but if everyone did then it wouldn't accomplish anything. if you have 100 people that each want to create an individual thread, we'd have 100 individual threads with the later ones buried.

    General season speculation and spoilers have their own thread

    Why? See the reasons for the official episode thread above.

    Thread titles should be specific

    The title should say what your thread is about without having to go in and read the thread. Be concise but descriptive.

    Look for an existing thread on the topic before creating a new one

    Again, common sense. Check for posts within the last 7 days.

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    Thank you for your consideration for your fellow users.
    Edited on 06/01/2007 7:47pm
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    Gislef

    [3]Mar 18, 2007
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    Apparently I wasn't clear above. Let's try again:

    The best way to encourage a troll is to respond to them. If you respond to them, quote them, etc., your posts will be moderated as well.

    If someone is violating forum policy, use the moderation-report system.


    Don't quote somebody else's trolling and flaming. You're responsible for what you put in youir posts, and you'll get moderated.

    Don't threaten to tell on someone. Just report them, ignore them, and move on.

    Don't try to deal with, challenge, or "fight" a troll. TV.com has moderators even when the show editor is away, your reports will get dealt with. You'll also probably end up quoting them, which means your post will have to be moderated. It doesn't do any good to moderate/delete the original post if you post it up as well.

    Most folks who troll want to take others down with them, and like getting attention. Don't give them the satisfaction.
    Edited on 03/18/2007 8:12am
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    Gislef

    [4]Apr 24, 2009
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    I go away for a few days, and guess what I hear about...

    Read the off-topic material above. There's no "I'm bored so I get an exception" exceptions.

    Also, to be very clear: if a post is partially off-topic, it's off-topic. Report it and ignore it. Or ignore it. Quoting it = bad.

    And if you get suspended, don't use a second ID. Moderators should be warning users about that when they get suspended. E-mail support@tv.com if you have questions. Suspension-dodging will get you banned. Trying to figure out another way to post when you're suspended, on the forums or on your blogs, is suspension-dodging and will get you banned. That's all per the Terms of Service.

    Now the forum will be watched more carefully, threads may have to be closed prematurely, and the chances of some kind of "Waiting for Smallville over the summer" thread being created went down considerably. Thanks, folks.
    Edited on 04/24/2009 2:30pm
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