Elvis: I once saw a production of Don Giovanni at a very famous festival in which the Queen scandalously attended at the Royal Opera House unaware … where the Don was whipping half-naked women, you know, it had gone that far in order to make a novelty … and there is something to that in … some productions are guilty of coming up with something.
Renee: Oh … that's nothing, that's nothing …
Elvis: That's nothing?
Renee: In Europe now, no, there' a real trend for … it's sort of extreme, ultimate vulgarity, ultimate shock for opera and what happens is that audiences say "Did you hear about that horrible production?" "Yes, do you have your tickets?" You know, the curiosity wins out in a way.