Spider-Man: The Animated Series

Season 3 Episode 14

Sins of the Fathers (14): Turning Point (2)

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Aired Saturday 10:00 AM Nov 23, 1996 on FOX
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Sins of the Fathers (14): Turning Point (2)
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Peter Parker and Mary Jane are finally a couple, but there happiness is short-lived as the Green Goblin, armed with a time distorter and the true identity of Spider-Man, seeks to destroy Spidey, by any means necessary.

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  • Lost Victory.

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    The greatest crime a supervillan commits is not robbing a bank or even trying to take over a city but attacking the ones you love.



    This episode is loosely based on a famous tragic comic book arc in the series. It's a bit different here obviously, but still I felt it did a good job at tugging at our emotions, this episode really takes an unfun turn and just like that arc it shows sometimes Superheroes can have empty victories.



    I really did love the drama before the incident which I though was sweet seeing both Peter and Mary Jane becoming a couple again, from their interaction you know those two belong together.



    Down to the final conflict where Norman/Green Goblin is at his scummy worst, I was litterally begining to hate the villian because he crossed the line. It's a tense situation where we see Mary Jane's life is held hostage, Spiderman tries to negotiate but it does no good. Green Goblin simply just drops her down into a vortex that leads nowhere. At that point Spiderman beats the crap out of Goblin till he falls into the same portal.



    In the end I just felt empty even though Peter won the conflict he was unable to save Mary Jane whom is now lost in the portal. In a way that left a cliffhanger where we wonder if Peter will be able to find a way to get her out of there but I wasn't sure.



    I don't feel this episode has the same impact as that arc due to the fact I presented but all the same I felt sad in the end, Spiderman has gained a lost victory.moreless
  • When the Beast with Two heads rises from the netherworld and discovers the true identity of Spiderman, nothing will ever be quite the same...

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    Spiderman has some of the most well remembered and bizarre rogues of any superhero. Doc Ock with his 4 mechanical arms, Sandman the living man of sand, Mysterio the supervillain with a fishbowl for a head. But only one was ever able to truly attack Spiderman beyond any other. Not even Venom was able to claim that prize, though he did come pretty close on quite a few occasions.



    Even though Venom also knew almost everything about Parker, he never succeeded being actually able to use it to deal critical damage to Parkers life. No, it would be the Green Goblin who would find out who Spiderman really was, then succeed in attacking his heart.



    This episode is based on three comic book stories, Amazing Spiderman #39-#40, Spectacular Spiderman #2 and Amazing Spiderman #121-122.



    The first is where the Green Goblin discovers Parkers true identity. The second is when Norman invites Parker to a dinner party and nearly reveals his secret identity to the guests. The third is when the Green Goblin takes his girlfriend hostage at the top of a Bridge, then Peter vows vengeance on him for a final battle between the two.



    The actual adaption is extremely well done, even if they had to use giant dimensional holes as an alternative for plain old death. If the Censors loosened themselves up a little, they could of done even more. But as it stands, its still one of the best episodes in this series.moreless
Rodney Saulsberry

Rodney Saulsberry

Joseph "Robbie" Robertson

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Linda Gary

Linda Gary

Aunt May Reilly-Parker

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Neil Ross

Neil Ross

Norman Osborn/Green Goblin

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  • TRIVIA (1)

    • After dragging down the goblin glider using a webline, Peter Parker rolls to the glider's rear engine exhausts to burn through the cables which restrain him. But when he bursts out of the cables, the formal tuxedo he was wearing instantly -- and impossibly -- explodes into fragments to reveal his costume.

  • QUOTES (9)

    • Norman Osborn: Where? Where am I? What's going on? Spider-Man, help me!
      Spider-Man: Why should I help you?

    • Green Goblin: (about Aunt May) She's so asleep. I couldn't disturb her. I'll just have to visit your second conspiracy. Nighty-night, Parker!

    • Green Goblin: The Green Goblin's greatest foe, a mere boy?! Impossible! Impossible!
      Norman Osborn: Wait, that's Peter Parker. He's the friend of my son, Harry.
      Green Goblin: Shut up, Osborn. I'm trying to think. He's been using him to get to you. Well, two can play at that game, Peter Parker, and the goblin plays for keeps.

    • Green Goblin: Norman would be so proud of me. He never believe how easy this was.
      Peter: Believe this!
      (Peter shoots web into a post)

    • Spider-Man: (to Green Goblin) You can run, Osborn, but you can't hide. Not when I know your address.

    • Peter: Its almost as if he knows I'm Spider-Man.

    • Spider-Man: YOU'LL PAY OSBORN! NO MATTER WHAT, YOU'LL PAY!!

    • Spider-Man: For so long now, I've tried to live up to the responsibility that comes with this great power. But when push came to shove. I failed the people who needed me most. The woman I love is gone... gone... forever.

    • Spider-Man: (after Green Goblin is sucked into the vortex) It can't end like this! MADAME WEB! (Spider-Man then ends up at Madame Web's place)
      Madame Web: Yes, Spider-Man!
      Spider-Man: Can you bring them back? I'll do whatever you want.
      Madame Web: I can't!
      Spider-Man: Can't or won't?
      Madame Web: This is the path that you chose for yourself. To do things on your own. Once that decision is made, there is no turning back. It is yet another thing that you have to learn.
      Spider-Man: Learn?! I am tired of you and your riddles and your lessons and your supreme arrogance! Don't you ever ever, enter my life again! Do you hear me? Do you here me!?
      Madame Web: As you wish! I shall leave you for now, but you are still the Chosen One. And when the time comes for the "Ultimate Battle," I will return and send for you. That you cannot escape. It is your destiny!

  • NOTES (5)

    • This is one of the few episodes where Spider-Man throws a punch

    • In the comics, the Green Goblin was impaled with his glider and actually died. Because of Fox Kids's censors, he wasn't allowed to actually die (at least not in that way), so they simply threw him in another dimension. It also made it easier for the younger kids to understand how he was able to contact Harry in "Partners in Danger (8): Return of the Green Goblin". Fox Kids figured that little kids may not understand insanity (which is what caused Harry to become the Goblin in the comics), so they made it so Norman really was contacting Harry.

    • The 2002 Spider-Man movie actually took much of its plot from this episode. Though the beginning of the movie was based on the comics, the combined parts of the Green Goblin finding out Spidey's identity, Mary-Jane being kidnapped (instead of Gwen Stacey), and the Green Goblin's death (or in this case "disappearing into another dimension"), were all closer to this series.

    • The episode combines two classic stories from comic continuity -- (1) The Amazing Spider Man #39 (from the Silver Age) where Peter Parker's true identity is discovered by the Green Goblin and is later dragged from the goblin glider by a steel cable over the city, and (2) The Spectacular Spider-Man Magazine #2 (also from the Silver Age) where Norman Osborn invites Peter and his friends to a formal dinner where he hints at Peter's true identity, goading him to transform into Spider-Man.

    • In the comic book, it was originally Gwen Stacy who was knocked off the bridge. Spider-Man caught her with his webbing before she hit the water below, but Gwen died in the fall. A "snap" by her neck implied that perhaps the jolt of the sudden stop broke her neck.

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