Star Trek: Voyager: Episode Relativity : a contradiction ?

keith137
[1]Sep 6, 2008
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In the opening sequence it shows that the weapon was already on Voyager while it was still in dry dock.
The rest of the the episode shows that the weapon was placed on Voyager during a squirmish with the Kazon.
How did the weapon come to be on Voyager in dry dock 2 years earlier ?
Edited on 09/08/2008 12:33am
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cvjrbdjkasfi
[2]Sep 10, 2008
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It is a temporal device, and it seems to leave a 'temoral imprint' in where it sits- so you can see where it is, but not when.

The thing that bugs me most was the captain complaining about being left on Earth for 30 years, when in the end of that double episode he clearly says "I never experienced that timeline". Great episode apart from that lack of thinking.
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cvjrbdjkasfi
[3]Sep 10, 2008
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*that is, you can see it if you have the correct temoral hardware, as seven has.
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keith137
[4]Sep 10, 2008
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"You can see where it is but not when". That does not seem to explain how Seven could not see it when she returns to Voyager during the Kazon attack and before Braxton boards Voyager. Seven says "the weapon is NOT there yet" I agree about Braxton's 30 years on earth. The time line was repaired and therefore those events on earth "never happened". Another question that arises; If Braxton crashed on earth in 1967 why did his colleagues not rescue him at the time ? Another question on Relativity episode. Why did Captain Janeway have to be recruited to apprehend Braxton at the end. The crew of Relativity were able to travel to the correct time and place to do so.
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cvjrbdjkasfi
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At one point there is a 'view through her eyes', and she could see a kind of 'ghost' of the weapon. I presume that's what she saw as well.

With the latter, well it's mainly because you are more attached to the character, but the usual excuse of 'she knows the ship better' would probably have been used.
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rabsnz
[6]Mar 3, 2009
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I believe the reason that Seven could see the weapon before it was placed was the manner in how it worked. It was a temporal explosive that worked like the the timeship in Year of Hell. Not only would it blow up Voyager but it would erase Voyager from existence in the timeline(USS Relativity operates outside of timespace so it would still be aware of Voyager's existence) an effect that would occur in the past as well as the present so thats why the weapon could be seen before it was placed
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pferreira86
[7]Mar 4, 2009
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I always found Braxton's reasoning in Relativity to be off character. It's like the character suddenly became crazy. Even the old, eccentric Braxton in Future's End knew what he was doing. In Future's End Braxton saw the importance of trying to preserve the timeline. It's just my opinion but this episode feels like a contradiction in more ways than one.
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cvjrbdjkasfi
[8]Mar 4, 2009
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I think the story would have been served better if they chose a different person from the future.
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pferreira86
[9]Mar 5, 2009
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cvjrbdjkasfi wrote:

I think the story would have been served better if they chose a different person from the future.
Very true.
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seto1
[10]Mar 6, 2009
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Well there is only so mucha change of the character could have done,i think that the whole storylone had alot of inconsistencies and ridoculous flaws,it was enjoyable but far from great.
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cvjrbdjkasfi
[11]Mar 11, 2009
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I agree it was a great story, it just screwed with the characterisation.
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NiallB31
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The way I look at is when Braxton brought Voyager back to 2373 at the end of Futures End Part 2 and whan He said he didn't remember that, I say when he returned to the 29th centuary he remembered it all them.

Overall this is one of the best Voyager episodes. I do think it could have worked in season 7 as a little flashback episode to the past, but season 5 has the shows best episodes and works here.
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pferreira86
[13]Jan 2, 2012
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cvjrbdjkasfi wrote:

I agree it was a great story, it just screwed with the characterisation.
Different writers, different characterisation.
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tomswift2002
[14]Mar 25, 2012
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You also have to remember that at the end of the episode there are apparently 4 Braxton's on the Relativity, and the Acting Captain says that they'll be reintegrated into one Braxton later on. So that is probably the best explanation for him remembering his 30 years on 20th century Earth.
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