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They ruin the Wraiths...............

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    Gaminghobo122

    [1]Jan 22, 2008
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    During Season one the Wraiths has the ability to regenerate to bullets. Now they just die within a couple of shots... I mean what the *beep* man.

    The writers ruin the almight great antagonist.

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    dtimekeeper

    [2]Jan 22, 2008
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    It's been said that it depends on how recently they've fed. The Wraith's that die after a 'couple of bullets' as you so eloquently put it, may not have fed recently enough due to the 'food shortage'. We see the wraith in "Common Ground' recovering from multiple bullet wounds after feeding.
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    TyrannFuhrer

    [3]Jan 23, 2008
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    There could be other factors. Perhaps the expedition has begin using better bullets like hollow-points? Does a hell of a lot more damage to the recipient.

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    borghl

    [4]Jan 23, 2008
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    Yes, it's the same thing with the Jaffa. At first our bullets were a bit ineffective against their armor, but we started using better bullets. Use that, or the food shortage; both really good explanations.
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    seto1

    [5]Jan 23, 2008
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    all very true,however doesn't that still doesn't help with the cause of how there guys defeated the builders of the star gates
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    sffreak

    [6]Jan 23, 2008
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    I don't think that the Wraith are as scary as in season 1..it's a shame.
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    ElJorro

    [7]Jan 23, 2008
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    sffreak wrote:
    I don't think that the Wraith are as scary as in season 1..it's a shame.


    Well the Goa uld in SG-1 seemed much more powerful and god like in the first season as well sooooo....ya know?
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    Telkiar

    [8]Jan 23, 2008
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    Alot of good points.

    Bullets. Armour peircing bullets would do less damage then hallow-point, and would probably of been the ammo of choice for the team originally.

    feeding. The Wraith in season 1 were but a small handful, constantly feeding, always having a food source nearby. In the later seasons all the wraith are awake and fighting for food. It's bound to men less food for the grunts.

    Numbers: This is in response to Seto. The wraith outnumbered the ancients. It doesn't matter how strong you are. 100 ships taking on 1 ship are bound to cause it serious damage.
    and yeah, they were the gate builders. They were primarily scientists and explorers. Not soldiers. But the wraiths every move has been motivated by hunger, they were more ferocious then the Lanterrans.
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    Gaminghobo122

    [9]Jan 23, 2008
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    borghl wrote:
    Yes, it's the same thing with the Jaffa. At first our bullets were a bit ineffective against their armor, but we started using better bullets. Use that, or the food shortage; both really good explanations.

    Wait regular bullets are actually infective against Jaffa armor?

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    Telkiar

    [10]Jan 24, 2008
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    Generic AP rounds, sure. based on the metal the armour is made of it.
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    Endgame65

    [11]Jan 24, 2008
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    seto1 wrote:
    all very true,however doesn't that still doesn't help with the cause of how there guys defeated the builders of the star gates
    Easy, superior numbers. The Lanteans were able to beat them in with their superior ships for a time, but they were severely outnumbered in the long run, as seen in "Spoils of War." They had the ability to quickly create more soldiers.
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    borghl

    [12]Jan 24, 2008
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    Gaminghobo122 wrote:

    borghl wrote:
    Yes, it's the same thing with the Jaffa. At first our bullets were a bit ineffective against their armor, but we started using better bullets. Use that, or the food shortage; both really good explanations.

    Wait regular bullets are actually infective against Jaffa armor?

    If you consider armor piercing bullets non-regular bullets, then yeah. Our ammo was ineffective. And they were not completely ineffective, just not 100% efficient. They were still able to get through the armor, it just took a lot of bullets. After we studied the armor we were able to use or make better rounds. Like armor piercing rounds and such. I think there was a thread about this in the SG-1 forum, specifically about how the Jaffa were tough at first, then all of a sudden they weren't (as far as our bullets went).

    Edited on 01/24/2008 7:42am
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    firedemon1

    [13]Feb 3, 2008
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    in season 1 most of the Wraith are sleeping. Only a small amount of Wraith are awake so they are able feed on the small amount of people and heal themselves quickly. Now there are a lot more Wraith awake and not enough people to feed on. So afther not feeding for a years they probably are weaker and can't heal themselves as fast.

    Also if they could still heal themselves instantly they would own everyone.

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    lindypink

    [14]Feb 6, 2008
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    The wraith in season four, apart from Todd, are very disappointing; They are not as convincing as James Lafazanos; they lack presence and deliverence and I think that is important if you are portraying a bad guy; the wraith now are not even remotely as scary as in season one and two! They probably kill them quicker because of that! Titter
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    MajLorne

    [15]Feb 10, 2008
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    The Wraith from "Condemmed" was pretty interesting especially when he was eating 'human food' rather than humans even saying the former chef tasted better than his food.

    Early in season 3, they really could've just left Michael alone, he did help them stop the 2 hive ships from reaching earth. They didn't have to wipe his memory out again by turning him human. I hope if they ever find Todd again, they leave him as a wraith and not to alter him into a human.

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    seto1

    [16]Feb 11, 2008
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    The way i see it the alantians were way to assure of their victory and got over confident,but in all the wriaths are formitable only to the degree in which how recent the fed,and these wraiths don't have a large supply and are not as invicible this combined with the clear fact that that the sg teams have learned and adapted
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    borghl

    [17]Feb 11, 2008
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    MajLorne wrote:

    The Wraith from "Condemmed" was pretty interesting especially when he was eating 'human food' rather than humans even saying the former chef tasted better than his food.

    Early in season 3, they really could've just left Michael alone, he did help them stop the 2 hive ships from reaching earth. They didn't have to wipe his memory out again by turning him human. I hope if they ever find Todd again, they leave him as a wraith and not to alter him into a human.



    They didn't want to allow him loose with the knowledge that Atlantis was still intact. They didn't want him there, he didn't want to be there. They didn't want to just let him go. It was too big of a security risk. He might have gone and got another few hives and went back to attack Atlantis.
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    MajLorne

    [18]Feb 14, 2008
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    Well that is true about him knowing about Atlantis, what I'm saying is they could've just locked him in the brig and keep him chained if he wants to go to a non vital section of the city. Of course he he were to ever 'leave' he would be given the retrovirus.
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    borghl

    [19]Feb 14, 2008
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    He'd have to have the retrovirus if they keep him. otherwise, they'd have to feed him.
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    MajLorne

    [20]Feb 14, 2008
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    I know humans are supposed to be moral, but I'm sure there are ruthless convicts on Earth they can take to feed Michael. Especially if they were on deathrow. Michael the wraith would've been very useful w/info on the wraith.
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