Stargate Atlantis

Season 5 Episode 11

The Lost Tribe (2)

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Aired Friday 10:00 PM Oct 10, 2008 on Syfy
9.4
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Sheppard must rescue McKay and Daniel Jackson from an Ancient laboratory that belonged to Janus before Todd, who has hijacked the Daedalus, gets there first.

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  • A totally awesome storyline ruined by one reveal...

    3.0
    And that was the Asgard. Seriously... The Asgard? What were they thinking? They had these seriously bad-ass aliens in suits, hell bent on destroying the Wraith, and they turn out to be Asgard. Is it really, really, REALLY that hard to come up with a new enemy? Is it necessary to just reuse the same aliens we saw on SG-1 over and over again? And even then, it just seemed to end so quickly. More Wraith destruction, no 'quick fix' to replacing the Stargate, and another idea than just opening a hyperspace window through the planet again, and this episode would have been SO much better. Very disappointing in my opinion.moreless
  • A wonderful episode. Loved seeing my Daniel again, just wished he had taken Vala with him.

    9.0
    A wonderful episode. Loved seeing my Daniel again, just wished he had taken Vala with him. Seeing Daniel and Rodney work together was quite funny. The Asgard thing was a bit surprising but then again why wouldn't some of the Asgard have been on the same lines as Loki and got separated from the rest a long time ago? It was nice to see their little gray butts again ;o)

    I have been enjoying the "battle over Jennifer" these last episodes between Ronon and Rodney but I was very disappointed when she chose Rodney. I mean come on... I honestly think that Rodney is the main reason I like SG-1 better then Atlantis. If we could put my Daniel and Vala on Atlantis and transfer Rodney... say to the afterlife or something... It would be the perfect show.moreless
  • It is good, entertainment episode, with some silly stuff here and there.

    10
    First, I am biased to all SG episodes, so unless it really boring or suck, I would give each of them a 10.



    It is pretty silly that Dr. Keller's hairstyle changed when she and Ronon tried to crippled the Deadalus's engine, and suddenly so flat when she was interrogate with Tod, and changed back when Ronon rescued her. It may be a small stuff, but it definitely ruin my moment. How she could find a hair dresser and the time when Deadalus was captured by the Wraith?



    Another thing, I guess all races have bad seed, and now we have bad Asgards. Rodney is a Rodney. "I thought they need me, and that you (Dr. Jackson) is expendable." really made me laugh.



    Overall, it is a good entertaining episode, though I am beginning to confuse on how the future SGA storyline will continue. I wished they are still fighting with those Asurans, and off course still have Dr. Weir.moreless
  • Too much story for one episode?

    8.0
    This has to have been the shortest mid-season hiatus in years, which is probably a good thing. The mid-season cliffhanger was a great episode for the series, and if Sci-Fi Channel wants to have any credibility while claiming that this is the "greatest season of Stargate ever", then they'll need all the help and momentum they can get.



    This was a good resolution, but I don't think it was as impressive as it could have been. The intention was to set up another shift in the status quo for the Pegasus Galaxy, leaving plenty of room for future exploration, so a number of elements were left wide open. I wouldn't say that it was sloppy, but with so little left to the series proper, it does increase the chances of major dangling plot threads.



    I'm also not entirely sold on the revelation that the new galactic threat is an offshoot tribe of Asgard. They might as well have made them leftover warriors from the time of Anubis. I'm not sure what to make of this particular turn of events; perhaps they were sorry about the decision to wipe out the Asgard in the series finale for "SG-1". Whatever the case, this left me underwhelmed, It was hard enough to take the Asgard seriously when they were allies. Who can argue that the enemy from "The Daedalus Variations" wouldn't have been a better choice?



    Also, more time could and should have been spent on Todd and the philosophical struggles over the future of the alliance. Todd seems to have believed John regarding the presence of a new enemy, thus letting Team Atlantis off the hook, but as edited, the episode left his intentions and thoughts a bit remote. The implications for the alliance were rather grim after the previous episode, especially any chance of Dr. Keller's treatment seeing the light of day, so it would have been nice to see that explored.



    On the other hand, how could they hope to resolve the mid-season cliffhanger, if they had kept those philosophical concerns intact? Even the restoration of the Atlantis stargate was dealt with in passing. Oddly, Sheppard's semi-relationship with the Travelers saw more screen time than, say, what Ronon was doing for the second half of the episode. There was simply too much to cover in a single episode.



    In the end, was this a bad episode? Not at all. But I think the loose ends are more glaring in the light of the series cancellation. It's felt like the past few seasons have often squandered opportunity, and I don't want to see the final season fall into the same unfortunate pattern.moreless
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    8.5
    The Lost Tribe was another great episode of Stargate Atlantis. It was a pleasure as usual to see Dr. Jackson in action. It was interesting to see an off shoot of the Asgard in the Pegasus Galaxy with their own agenda. This episode was good because it had plenty of action, but also because the characters were steeped in drama, that they have no choice but to over come. In the end every thing works out, as per usual. The Wraith named Todd has become more bold in his strategies, and Atlantis itslef has become less central this season so far. I look forward to the future!!!moreless
Jewel Staite

Jewel Staite

Dr. Jennifer Keller

Robert Picardo

Robert Picardo

Richard Woolsey

Joe Flanigan

Joe Flanigan

Major/Lt. Colonel John Sheppard

David Hewlett

David Hewlett

Dr. Rodney McKay

Jason Momoa

Jason Momoa

Ronon Dex

Rachel Luttrell

Rachel Luttrell

Teyla Emmagan

Michael Shanks

Michael Shanks

Dr. Daniel Jackson

Guest Star

Daniella Alonso

Daniella Alonso

Katana Labrea

Guest Star

Claire Robertson

Claire Robertson

Mila

Guest Star

Martin Christopher

Martin Christopher

Major Kevin Marks

Recurring Role

Christopher Heyerdahl

Christopher Heyerdahl

Todd the Wraith

Recurring Role

David Nykl

David Nykl

Dr. Radek Zelenka

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions

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  • TRIVIA (9)

    • Goof: For a split second, in the scene where Jackson and McKay are in the suits about to enter the chamber, a projector for one of the computer screens can be seen on the floor in the background.

    • The two empty suits that Rodney and Daniel discover are not actually empty as they move slightly. Someone is clearly in those suits to stand them upright.

    • Daniel: (to McKay) You know, it has been clinically proven that referring to yourself in the third person is a sign of mental instability, right?

      On the episode, "Runner," McKay told Ford a very similar thing.
      McKay: (to Ford) Although, the fact you keep referring to yourself in the third person does indicate clinic dissociation.

    • Jackson: I take that back -- I have met an Asgard like you before. His name was Loki. He was experimenting on humans too, until he was caught and brought to justice by the Asgard High Council.

      Daniel is referring to the Stargate SG-1 episode "Fragile Balance."

    • We discover that Todd is at least 10,000 years old, as he said he was there when the Attero device was first activated after Janus had built it.

    • Nitpick: When Daniel & Rodney first look at the empty suits they are both the same height - and Daniel remarks that the insides form around whoever is in them. However when they put the suits on before going into the crystal chamber Daniel is a good 6 inch taller than Rodney.

    • Sheppard's plan to "jump" the Daedalus through the planet is reminiscent of the Stargate SG-1 season five episode "Fail Safe", in which Samantha Carter sends an asteroid, on a collision course for Earth, into hyperspace and through the planet.

    • Goof: When Ronon and Keller are trying to avoid getting detected by the Wraith, Keller has curly hair. When she is brought to Todd on the bridge her hair is suddenly straight. Then for the rest of the episode it's back to being curly.

    • In order for Atlantis to dial Earth, they need a specific control crystal in their DHD (making them the only ones in the Pegasus Galaxy who can dial Earth, as previously noted). Rodney states that they have obtained another Stargate, and they will be able to send Daniel Jackson home soon, yet does not mention the control crystal for the gate. With the control room destroyed at the end of the previous episode, it is highly unlikely that the crystal survived intact. One would expect that even if the explosion didn't destroy it, there should have been some sort of power surge, since the DHD controls the gate, which exploded.

  • QUOTES (15)

    • McKay: Look, where does it hurt?
      Daniel: Everywhere. I don't suppose there's a hospital nearby?
      McKay: I'm-I'm... pretty sure we're on our own.
      Daniel: Good...
      McKay: Look, I mean, on the bright side, I mean, we're both gonna be dead of dehydration in like five days, so you won't have to put up with me for much longer.

    • McKay: You know, we don't both have to go in there.
      Daniel: Well, when you get killed by one of those discharges, someone's gonna have to finish the job, so... (shrugs)
      McKay: Great pep talk, thanks.

    • Keller: We're on a space ship. Those doors are designed to be airtight. That means something as tiny as air can't even get through. How do you think you will?
      Ronon: Yeah, well, I'm bigger than air.
      Keller: Yeah… that's kind of my point.

    • Keller: What's our plan, what are we going?
      Ronon: We get to an access ladder. We head down two floors to engineering rooms. Then we cripple the ship.
      Keller: You… know how to do all that.
      Ronon: Yeah. Don't you?
      Keller: Not really.
      Ronon: Watch and learn.

    • Keller: You can't just blast away at vital systems like that! What if you take out the life support system?
      Ronon: Don't worry, the life support system is that tray. At least, I'm pretty sure it is.

    • McKay: Explosion diversions are the very cornerstone of diversions.
      Daniel: You don't have any better ideas.
      McKay: I don't have any better ideas, yes.

    • Marks: I got it. I'm back in. We've got control of the ship.
      Woolsey: And not a moment… too late.

    • McKay: Hey. How are you?
      Daniel: Well, it hurts to eat this fruit cup.
      McKay: Don't eat the fruit cup, then.
      Daniel: Thank you, Groucho.

    • Daniel: So you can only give compliments to the dying?
      McKay: It's something I'm working on.

    • Daniel: You want to clear the device control room of bad guys, right?
      Rodney: Yes.
      Daniel: So why would you assume if there's a massive explosion people would go running towards it?
      Rodney: I would.
      Daniel: I rest my case.

    • Rodney: This is an Ancient facility. And Rodney McKay knows a thing or two about Ancient facilities.
      Daniel: You know, it has been clinically proven that referring to yourself in the third person is a sign of mental instability, right?
      Rodney: Mentally unstable like a fox.

    • Teyla: What should we do?
      Sheppard: Five bucks to anybody who can figure out how to contact the Daedalus.
      Banks: Uh, Colonel Sheppard?
      Sheppard: Got an idea, Banks?
      Banks: No, but I am being hailed by the Daedalus on subspace. Does that count?
      Sheppard: Technically that's not your idea but good enough.

    • Teyla: I still do not understand what happened?
      Sheppard: The gate blew up.
      Teyla: That much I surmised.

    • Teyla: How are you?
      Sheppard: Ah. Well, I'm alive, you know, that's good for now.

    • McKay: You wanna unzip me?
      Woolsey: I'll look for a can opener.

  • NOTES (4)

    • David Hewlett voiced the "previously on Stargate Atlantis" line.

    • Michael Shanks is billed as Special Guest Star.

    • International Air Dates:

      -This episode aired in Canada on October 13, 2008 on Movie Central and The Movie Network.
      -This episode aired in the UK on October 28, 2008 on Sky One.
      -This episode aired in Sweden on December 5, 2008 on TV6.
      -This episode aired in Germany on September 30, 2009 on RTL II.
      -This episode aired in the Czech Republic on November 10, 2009 on AXN Sci-fi.
      -Syndication Premiere: February 6-7, 2010.
      -This episode aired in Australia on April 1, 2010 on 7TWO.

    • On September 28, 2008, the Sci-Fi Channel released an early preview of this episode, revealing the identities of the soldiers that attacked Atlantis.

  • ALLUSIONS (1)

    • Iron Man:

      The Heads-Up-Display inside the Asgard battle suits is a reference to the similar suit display in the movie, Iron Man (2008), which was released five months prior to the airing of this episode.

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