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    justdirk

    [1]Nov 21, 2009
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    Well, I've given it a try, but this is not Stargate, it's BSG 2009 and it sucks!!

    There is absolutely NO fun in watching this series. It's a drama, not sci-fi and I happen to like sci-fi, not drama.

    So, for those who enjoy it, good on ya... not me. I didn't sit through this or the previous episode and I'm not even going to sit down for the next episode. What a waste of a perfectly good idea.

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    Marthalius

    [2]Nov 22, 2009
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    There is a reason why SG-u has two tags attached to it: it is a drama and it IS a scifi. If you think that scifi i only connected with explosions, fires, guns etc. than you probably do not know what scifi really is. If you hate it so much and write, that you're not going to watch it anymore, than it is better if you keep this to yourself. If you want others to stop watching the sereis, at least give a good reason why.
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    Sp00nz

    [4]Dec 6, 2009
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    This show is a drama in a sci-fi setting. Character development and relationships is the obvious focal point. It's a shame that you don't like it, but I for one like the direction they've taken. They've eliminated most of the cheese and deal with real issues. How are people going to deal with being isolated? This is the main question that Universe tackles.

    There is lots of solid science fiction that doesn't depend on cheesy alien costumes, over the top villains and tongue in cheek humour.

    Just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad. Do yourself a favour and go read some Isaac Asimov.
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    sremnes

    [5]Dec 6, 2009
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    I agree, everebody is entitled to an opinion. What surprises me, is all the people that dont like it comes to this shows forums to say it. I dont see that happen to other shows forums. If i dont like a show, i dont see why i should go on these forums to tell everybdoy about it. People that like SG-1 and SGA ebtter, go discuss those shows on the respective forums.
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    MajLorne

    [6]Dec 6, 2009
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    While I do agree, there's also a flip side to it. There are those here that loves the show without question and would question others why they don't like a certain aspect of the show.

    It's come down to either really like it or really hate it. I think of myself as on the sidelines. I don't like too much drama like earth and life, but at the same time I don't really mind it so long as the story is good. Like this one Justice - still drama, but at least it was good and dealt with the people on the ship.

    Edited on 12/06/2009 2:01pm
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    fladimir7

    [7]Dec 6, 2009
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    What's puzzling me is people comparing universe to BSG. I mean how, why, it simply doesn't make any sense.
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    dofuscato

    [8]Dec 6, 2009
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    sremnes wrote:
    What surprises me, is all the people that dont like it comes to this shows forums to say it. I dont see that happen to other shows forums. If i dont like a show, i dont see why i should go on these forums to tell everybdoy about it.

    It´s because the call this show "Stargate." We find that insulting.

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    dofuscato

    [9]Dec 6, 2009
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    fladimir7 wrote:
    What's puzzling me is people comparing universe to BSG. I mean how, why, it simply doesn't make any sense.

    No, this show is actually more like Big Brother or Survivor. They are trying to get viewers from those kind of shows, thats my theory anyway. Rush just got "voted out."

    Edited on 12/06/2009 4:33pm
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    sremnes

    [10]Dec 6, 2009
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    dofuscato wrote:

    sremnes wrote:
    What surprises me, is all the people that dont like it comes to this shows forums to say it. I dont see that happen to other shows forums. If i dont like a show, i dont see why i should go on these forums to tell everybdoy about it.

    It´s because the call this show "Stargate." We find that insulting.

    Why dont you write the producers and tell them then ? Stop complaining. Dont watch it, and go to those tohers forums i mentioned and discuss your favorite Stargate shows.

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    Yaspaa

    [11]Dec 7, 2009
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    Another whining thread, "I don't like drama" boo hoo.
    Edited on 12/07/2009 2:09am
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    KayTannee

    [12]Dec 7, 2009
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    BSG 2009, Brilliant! Exactly why I like SG:U. Used to like SG1 when I was young, but I've deffinitly out grown it. I'm more into Firefly and BSG now. And am glad that Stargate, has grown up with me.

    Its got Stargates name, because its blatantly stargate. Just a more mature and drama driven version. One without all the implausable rediculousness.
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    justdirk

    [13]Dec 12, 2009
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    Sp00nz wrote:
    It's a shame that you don't like it, but I for one like the direction they've taken.

    Okay, I've read some of the other threads about people complaining about the show and I'd like to apologise to people like you. It's clearly a matter of opinion/personal taste and I agree that I don't have the right to spoil it for you just because I don't like it.

    My reasoning was that I'd been watching various flavours of Stargate for years and always loved it. So my disappointment was so much greater than any other show that I may start watching and stop when I don't like it without complaining about it, because my expectation for SGU was pretty high. Nonetheless, as I've read others say, complaining about it here serves no purpose - so I apologise.

    As for the BSG comment: I loved BSG itself. I was implying that SGU was a bad ripoff of BSG. But again, just my opinion.

    I'll wait for the first 1-2 episodes of season 2 and give it another go, maybe it'll grow on me.For now, I'm thankful for Fringe.

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    justdirk

    [14]Dec 12, 2009
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    Yaspaa wrote:
    I don't like drama

    Funny thing, neither do I

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    Yaspaa

    [15]Dec 13, 2009
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    You can't not like drama, TV is drama, unless it's a documentary. 300+ episodes of SG1 and SGU. Eat 300 plates of beans and see how you feel about beans afterwards. For every one thing SGU has in common with BG there are 10 things how it differs. If you need to twist go for the new Star Wars movies.
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    AdrianCremona

    [16]Jan 12, 2010
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    Gossip Universe.

    The real problem with SGU is not the plot. It's not the premise or the actors or even the style or mood of the show. The real problem is the story lines they have been given. All of you SGU lovers (and yes, I'm not a lover, but I'd like to be) like to say its Adult: it's a drama, its not meant to be SG1. Cool, I agree with all of that in principle, but I'm 36yrs old, so I think I'm an adult and I don't see what is so adult about the show. Infidelity; boring Melrose Place crap. Night clubbing – not really an adult concept. I consider 18-25yr olds "young adults" and that is definitely the target audience. . The endless puerile use of kenos as shower cams and remote control cars – is pathetic. Now for some schooling; In BSG (I use BSG as everyone is comparing SGU with BSG) we saw genuine grieving, the sense of loss and confusion. The desperate struggle to survive, the birth of a new fragile human existence. Mystery, intrigue, love, betrayal, murder and fantastic effects – I clocked one BSG battle scene at over 6 minutes. And the finale is almost 15mins of nonstop exciting special effects. BSG isn't perfect, that's not my point, my point is that so far SGU has focused on PETTY turmoil and power strruggles (i dont see how Rush has a problem since he has the guns - unless we have a coup - pls - something exciting). Yes, we've had the big dramas for food, water, air, power – all of which were solved not by these people, but by the AI in Destiny (oh dear Andromeda flashback, my blood is curdling). These guys are being petty – political undertones of the IOC gaining control – what the? What possible gain could the IOC see for themselves? And then there's Lou Diamond Phillips – GO AWAY YOU BORE ME. I recall that scene where Jack Oniell is with Young and Young is crying about the fact that they have nothing and Jack is like – go get it, go fix it, just do it already. I feel like Jack – I'm looking at SGU the way Jack looked at Young – "you are being pathetic, grow up." The show needs to grow up and actually do something, anything, except bicker amongst themselves. I sympathise with Eli, i think Young is a moron, Rush has been purposefully obscured to make us think he's hiding something when we already know - he wants to ascend - he wants his wife back. He's a good guy and its too transparent a cloak to make us believe anything else (unless you're too dim to realise the devices they're using to make us distrust Rush) Christian boy - who cares, Chloe - what is she good for? Oh, Grier is it, he's alright? The only real anti-hero character on the show. Basically, you need audience sympathy for long term survival and they don't have a single character (not even Rush) that I would care if they lived or died. Take the Stargate out of Stargate Universe, today - i think the perfect name would have been Gossip Universe.

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    Yaspaa

    [17]Jan 12, 2010
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    Well, you've certainly picked out aspects that suit you're arguement. It's more adult because it's lost it's cartoonyness, and it deals with complex adult problems, instead of pretending they don't exist. BSG may have had a 6 min space battle but other times it was slow, a lot.BSG had a different look and tone, I don't get the comparison.BSG also had more petty power struggles than SGU ever will. Crap wall of text arguement, just crap.
    Edited on 01/12/2010 10:25am
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    AdrianCremona

    [18]Jan 12, 2010
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    that's all you really do - call things crap when you dont understand them

    and i thought you were an intellectual
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    Yaspaa

    [19]Jan 13, 2010
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    Part time intellectual.
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    AdrianCremona

    [20]Jan 13, 2010
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    whatever :-) dont take it personal - this thread is "SGU thanks but no thanks." like i said its not all bad - i loved the destiny thru the sun thing - loved it - and i even enjoy Grier in every scene - i see what u mean about trying to deal with complex adult problems now - but i feel that this is the beginning of a new show - like the beginning of every book - its the first line that counts the most - and i've read the first few pages and i dont know if its going to hold my attention long enough for me to finish reading the first chapter, let alone the book. what i mean specifically is that yeah, the interpersonal scenes are complex and perhaps even really well written, but the story itself, the united journey of this ragtag bunch of survivors, needs fleshing out - some general direction of where SGU is taking us - how they get us there will seem more relevant then. And btw, finding a way home doesn't count cos that's obvious, the show would end if that happens - whats the journey we're taking?

    - peace out
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