Stargate Universe

Season 1 Episode 8


Aired Monday 9:00 PM Nov 13, 2009 on Syfy
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Episode Summary

On a mission to a jungle world, an away team finds a Kino with footage of themselves they haven't shot yet.

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  • best episode so far

    I really enjoyed this SGU episode; so far with the season I haven't been thrilled with it, but this episode was the best so far. The team goes off world and uncovers a kino with footage of them exploring the planet already. In the footage, a mysterious disease appears and creatures from the planet end up killing most of the team. They figured out that the creature venom cures the disease, which manifested itself in the water. I really liked this episode because it had a stargate feel to it. They explored a planet and had a problem. I love time travel stories but also like how the time travel in this episode wasn't at the forefront. I liked learning more about the characters as always. Overall, a solid episode and the best of the season so far.moreless

    In episode #8 A team from Destiny arrives on a jungle planet, where they find a kino with footage of themselves they haven't shot yet. "Please believe me," I say. "You don't have much time. Act now or you are all going to die in the ratings." I'm paraphrasing Scott's final dialogue in the episode but you get the idea. The actresses who play Chloe Armstrong, Lt. Tamara Johansen and 2nd Lt. Vanessa James are hot. This episode is not. The first six episodes of this series had promise of something spectacular. But the last two episodes seem to have taken an unexpected turn into the mundane. Too many time travel episodes for Science Fiction shows in general. This one is like a time travel cliché.moreless
  • The time-travel reset plot is not new to sci fi, but this episode gives it fine treatment.

    Since they recently visited Hoth, I wasn't surprised that they ended up on Dagobah. Cute homage, intentional or otherwise.

    At first, viewing the episode with the "kino" became frustrating. But as soon as the cause was revealed, it was excused. The addition of the disease added another layer of tension. And allowing the characters to react to the situation on-screen provided the emotional depth with which SGU excels. It was clever - and cruel - to allow other characters to see Eli's admissions via the kino, as his more emotional side might otherwise be easy for them to ignore. Although not the best, this is another fine episode, and it moves our relationship with the "crew" forward nicely.

    This show as a whole makes me extremely nervous. Reactions to this episode, for instance: many votes of 9 and 10, a few votes of 1 and 3, and calls to cancel the whole thing before it offends anyone further (and still, everyone who votes low cites how it doesn't live up to previous series! Go watch previous series then, for god's sake!) Too many shows gets cancelled because the network is afraid to let them demonstrate their potential. It's like a massacre out there, particularly with science fiction. I hope those with power realize that the mixed reactions show what an affecting show it can be, and how this is a positive thing.moreless
  • About time this show had a decent episode

    I thought this episode was pretty good, i loved the time travel factor in it, their actions were changed by actions that they had not done yet and in the end they ended up never doing (makes no sense i know, but that's time travel for ya)The creepy aliens creatures were awsome, they were like something from alien (just somehow reminds me of them)

    I was getting tried of the whole "oh no! we are going to die!Imminent death!" each episode, yes that kinda happened in past Stargate series but not as dramatically.

    Hopefully SGU has picked its self up now and there will be more great episodes to come.moreless
  • Nice Plot. Weird ending.

    I'm usually pretty quick on the sci-fi concepts, but I got totally confused because, if the "Kino Planet" version is just a "loop in time" caused by the defective wormhole, then how does the "Crew looking at Old Kino, gets sick, sends troops (in current time) back to planet for cure, then it turns out they are ""Part of the same loop"...... say WHAT ???!?? My question is, who said that throwing the Kino back in time will "reset" things when there are still people dying on the ship "outside of the original time loop"... This makes absolutely no sense. I was SURE that there was a Part II. When I looked at next episode tonight, it's obvious that there is not Part II to solve the problem of the "Crew Who Watched The Old Kino and is now sick". This is not creative. It's just dumb. Horrible. Inexcusable lack of planting the seeds of a story resolution. THERE IS NONE. BAH HUMBUG on this seriesmoreless
Robert Carlyle

Robert Carlyle

Dr. Nicholas Rush

Louis Ferreira

Louis Ferreira

Colonel Everett Young

David Blue

David Blue

Eli Wallace

Brian J. Smith

Brian J. Smith

1st Lt. Matthew Scott

Jamil Walker Smith

Jamil Walker Smith

MSgt. Ronald Greer

Elyse Levesque

Elyse Levesque

Chloe Armstrong

Michael Sangha

Michael Sangha

Cpl. Lipton

Guest Star

Julia Benson

Julia Benson

2nd Lt. Vanessa James

Recurring Role

Patrick Gilmore

Patrick Gilmore

Dr. Dale Volker

Recurring Role

Jennifer Spence

Jennifer Spence

Dr. Lisa Park

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (4)

    • Rush: I'm afraid that's a failure of imagination.

      This was also said by Dr. Rodney McKay in Stargate Atlantis episode "Suspicion."

    • It is revealed in the 18th Kino Webisode, "New Kind of Crazy," that in the current timeline the two Kinos sent to the past were found and watched. A team revisited the jungle planet during the day and safely captured live specimens of the nocturnal creatures.

    • The Stargates in the Milky Way and Pegasus Galaxy have failsafes that prevent the Gate from locking when the wormhole comes too close to a star. These most likely exist in the DHD. Destiny-style Gates do not have DHDs and is most likely why this Gate was able to dial.

    • The skull that the second team's Rush found on the planet was his own. The first Rush entered the Stargate and the solar flare caused the wormhole to slingshot around the Star and back to the same planet (the same thing happened to SG-1 in the episode "1969"). The gravitational forces causes the matter to be propelled either forward or backward in time. In this case backwards to a point far enough in the past to allow full decomposition of the body.

  • QUOTES (6)

    • (on the recording)
      Rush: For a moment there, I thought we were in trouble.
      Eli: What??
      (watching the recording)
      Eli: "For a moment there, I thought we were in trouble"?!
      Young: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. It's Butch's last line before he and Sundance run out to face the Bolivians. One of my favorites, too.
      Rush: Well, well. We do have something in common after all.

    • Eli: I remember as a kid, I was ... I dunno, maybe seven or eight ... my grandfather died and my parents took me to the funeral. Watching his casket getting lowered into the ground, it ... it was the first time that I realized I was gonna die one day. I mean, I knew people died. I'm talking about the idea that my consciousness was gonna end. I wasn't gonna see what happened to the world. It was such an empty, dark feeling, like I was falling down a pitch-black hole. It was ... it scared the crap out of me.
      Rush: I take it you don't believe in the afterlife.
      Eli: That fear was almost too much to handle. I guess maybe I thought I'd just get used to it.
      Rush: But you don't.
      Eli: No. No. It scared me just as much every time.
      Rush: Most people realize their own mortality at some stage of the game, Eli. It's not a particularly unique experience.
      Eli: I know.
      Rush: The question is, did it change you? Did it inspire you to make something of this short existence that we have?
      Eli: Well, I'm here, aren't I?

    • Eli: I have a lot of respect for people who do what you do. It's not easy. I can tell it really affects you when you can't help people.
      Johansen: It does.
      Eli: My mom was a nurse. She got stuck by a needle trying to restrain a junkie in the E.R. She got H.I.V.
      (On Destiny, Eli looks down, haunted by memories. Chloe watches him sympathetically.)
      Johansen: I'm sorry.
      Eli: And my father couldn't handle it. He just ... he just left. I was fourteen at the time.
      Johansen: That must have been hard on you.

    • (Eli is talking into the Kino)
      Rush: Eli!
      Eli: Do I need to point out yet again that documenting this could be important?!
      (On Destiny, Eli looks round triumphantly at the others.) See? See?!
      (He turns back to the screen and watches as the footage continues.)
      Franklin: (in the jungle) Who do you think is ever gonna see that?
      Eli: (on Destiny) Us! Us! We are!

    • (Eli sits down and looks across to Sergeant Marsden who stands nearby and looks back at him stony-faced.)
      Eli: What? I need a break! It's so hot! (He looks at Marsden again, who is still staring at him accusingly.) All you're doing is standing there!
      Marsden: Making sure nothing crawls up your ass.
      Eli: And I appreciate that.

    • Eli: Well this couldn't get much worse.
      Rush: I'm afraid that's a failure of imagination.
      Eli: Top five desert island movies. (Rush turns and gives him a look.) What?! It'll help pass the time! OK, I'll go first. Hackers. Obvious, I know. The Matrix. (He laughs.) Old School - you've gotta have something to make you laugh, right? (He thinks for a moment.) If trilogies count as one, then all three original Star Wars, but if only one, then-then Empire. Uh, four ... (He thinks again.) Man, this is hard! I could pick so many! Maybe it should be top ten. Good Will Hunting has got to be in there somewhere...

  • NOTES (3)


    • Rush: ... for a moment there, I thought we were in trouble.

      As Young explains this is Butch Cassidy's last line before he and Sundance run out to face the Bolivians in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

    • Hamlet:

      The way Rush holds the skull is similar to the way Prince Hamlet held Yorick's skull in Shakespeare's Hamlet.

    • Eli: Hey, hell, hello! What are you doing?! Haven't you seen Alien?!

      Eli is referencing the 70's Sci-Fi film Alien.

    • Greer: Welcome to the jungle.

      Greer is referencing the song "Welcome to the Jungle" by Guns N' Roses.