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Suits S03E02: "I Want You to Want Me"

You know, tearing Louis Litt apart for comedic effect is getting really old, Suits. One of the best things this series has done in recent seasons is flesh out Louis (and so many of its other secondary characters) and "elevate" him from an actual villain to a guy that we can readily understand, complete with quirks, hang-ups, and personality extremes that at times make him incompatible with the rest of the world. We all know people like that. Some of us are people like that. Guess what? Weird people are still people. 

One thing that has the potential to be a great is Suits' lowering of Harvey's great and wonderful perfection. Harvey has always been a dick, but in the past, there's always been enough justification for his dickishness that we could look past it and cheer for him anyway. Either the poor dunce on the receiving end had it coming or Harvey was in god-like rockstar mode and it just worked, but it wasn't hard to like Harvey in the beginning. He was a grown-up Jim Stark in an Armani suit. He was flawed, to be sure, but his heart was usually in the right place. 


The push to turn Harvey into a potential enemy of Jessica, of the firm, and of anybody who doesn't immediately concede to his wants and whims is great. Harvey's biggest weakness has always been his ego, and it's taken quite a few hits recently. His vendetta against Jessica and his anger at Mike were a logical progression from the end of Season 2—but that doesn't mean that Harvey's right, which is where I'm having some problems with jumping on the usual Team Harvey bandwagon and also why Mike's decision to go back to Harvey elicited an impressive line of profanity in Casa Sleasman. It was the equivalent of two brahs having a disagreement at the cool kids' lunch table, one of them ditching that scene to go slum with the dorks in the corner, including that kid who snorts his ritalin because it turns his snot blue. Brah #2 turned out to really like hanging out with the losers. They sincerely valued his presence. They watched tentacle porn without the subtitles on and dude-bro slowly learned how to kick some ass in Magic: The Gathering (full disclosure: I have no idea whether Magic is still the game of choice for the cool nerds of today).

Anyway, eventually Dude-bro #1 got over his bullshit because his girlfriend and Dude-bro #2's girlfriend were tight and they couldn't hang out unless #2 came back because high school, and besides, Mike Ross totally belongs at the cool kid's table because... well, because.

I think I just made myself feel worse for Louis Litt. "Life is high school." Man, Louis couldn't have been more prophetic.


I'll laugh at Louis being awkward in a mud bath. I'll laugh at the self portraits he has all over his office. I'll laugh at him shoving cake in Mike's face. But I can't really laugh at him time and time again thinking he's finally made a friend just to have it blow up in his face. That's not funny. That's really f*ing sad. 

On the plus side, can we talk about the scary amount of power Donna actually has? All she had to do was say the word and Harvey immediately welcomed Mike back to Team Cool Kids—not that that's a team anyone should currently want to be on, except out of fear of Harvey's ruthlessness when in power. I like the Harvey vs. Jessica story, but I'm not yet convinced of the nobility of Harvey's cause. It still seems like he's taking an unfortunate professional choice on her part extremely personally. His "Hey, you should take your girlfriend on a date!" seemed forced. Their reunion probably isn't going to fix the rift between Rachel and Donna anytime soon—and WOW that got nasty—with people once again interpreting career moves as personal attacks. 


While the parallels between Ava/Nck and Jessica/Harvey were so obvious it hurt, I don't mind when the cases mirror the workplace crises of Pearson-Darby, especially when that's really the only point to featuring said cases. Suits strength is in its characters, and the threat that looms when focusing too much on the procedural stuff is one of not giving those wonderful characters room to flourish. We couldn't have had "I Want You to Want Me" without last week's "The Arrangement," but between the two, this was definitely the stronger installment and puts us in a more interesting spot moving forward. 



CASE NOTES

– Louis said that Mike is "half Louis, half Harvey." I actually think that's pretty accurate. What do you think?

–  It's good that Mike hasn't seen As Good as it Gets because that means he can still see it for the first time. Aww. <3

– IDK about Gary Cole's mustache. 

–  Team Harvey or Team Jessica? 

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AIRED ON 7/20/2016

Season 6 : Episode 2

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Louis is so fucking cute and likeable, and badass while harvey...is just a hypocritical cunt in a pretty suit with a big ego. Fuck Harvey, and fuck Mike if he can't see reality. I was already starting to dislike Harvey until that scene with the DA, where it became obvious that he would cut off anyone to didn't kiss his ass and subject themself to his every whim. Team Jessica
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Harvey doesn't wear Armani suits. He wears Tom Ford.
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I really wanted Mike to tell Harvey to fuck off and team up with Louis...Is that weird?
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Stupid Harvey and Stupid Mike! Mike just goes back to Harvey after being ignored and rejected....what an idiot. Meanwhile, poor, poor Louis is bending over backwards to show Mike how awesome of a mentor he could be...something Harvey hasn't proved in quite some time.

I am all for the reign of Litt and may he give Harvey the smack down he so richly deserves. Mike needs to grow a pair, along with a sense of morality, or I can see the crazy recklessness and poor decisions continuing.
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I was sad for Louis at the end of this episode. I really wanted him and Mike to team up for a while. They would have been good together.
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Am I the only one who wanted to rip out Harvey's throat at the end of the last episode when he took Mike back JUST as Louis was bringing the cake in? The actor who portrays Louis is simply amazing. There is no middle ground - You either HATE Louis or LOVE him. Right now he is the ONLY character I am respecting and care about. Everyone else is a backstabbing SOB and deserves the shit they get.

Let's change the name of the Firm to Louis & Associates and F the rest! :)
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I wanted Harvey and Mike to make up so bad I thought I was going to cry when mike said yes to Luis. But im not gonna lie, it broke my heart when I saw Luis' expression when he saw Mike and Harvey giving each other five. I do agree with the thought that Luis was let down like a nerd by the cool kids and i hope in the next episode they give us another plot twist in regards to Luis. I'm also noticing really how much sway Donna has with Harvey! i hope my long awaited dream will come true and Harvey will realize that Donna is his one true love! i also LOVED all the movie references, especially Jerry Maguire. There's no such thing as too much Tom Cruise (;
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For some reason I think Harvey, Mike, Louis and Jessica will end up teaming up (after lots of drama and fighting amongst themselves) to take down Darby. Or maybe that is just what I wish for.... I don't trust Darby and I like the "family" together.

All the characters have their flaws and after seasons of Louis being a sneaky prick, if I were Mike I would have a hard time trusting him over Harvey. I don't think he gave his "word" to Louise (unlike the IT guy). I think he said "yes" to Louis but it was different from his promise to the IT guy.

I still like Harvey (yes he is an ass but I like him), Mike (needs to make better choices~~ugh Rachel...what more needs to be said) and Jessica (strong female character--flawed like they all are but independent and smart). I have always loved Donna but I was annoyed by her these past couple episodes (she does need a social life and to get "strong" again). Rachel is still annoying.
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I'm getting really tired of the constant emotional stand offs between the main characters. The ego's who's always wounded is getting tiresome, of you ask me. I wish the writers would come up with something more than the same stories, just with slight different angles. It's just not engaging to watch anymore.
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Can you imagine working in that atmosphere?
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Absolutely not! I'm too sensitive (fact) and people who create drama make me tired.
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YES! Preach MaryAnn! This review is pretty much perfection.

-I think that is very accurate. Harvey loves to win. Louis genuinely loves the law. As much of a hardass as Louis tries to come across he actually cares about his job, clients, and the people. Every facet of what he does fascinates him. Harvey likes the thrill of getting over on people and winning. Mike pretty much has a combination of both.

-Teams. Okay, here we go. *sigh* I'm Team Jessica. No doubt about it. I've expressed multiple times that it frustrates me sometimes when I see so many people who are huge Harvey fans claim that they detest Jessica. I don't even see how that's possible. Jessica and Harvey are the exact same. Two sides of the same damn coin. Mirror freaking images of one another, which is in part why their partnership is both so combative and so damn fantastic. When they look at each other they see bits of themselves and most of the time that's what keeps them balancing one another out. That's how they keep the other from going over the freaking edge. So, I can't lie, I don't get how you can love one character and detest the other. I don't get how when Harvey does something that it comes across cool, suave, or even amusing, but when Jessica does essentially the same thing it comes across bitchy or cruel. You have two people, they are both ambitious, painfully so. They both are type A personalities. Alphas. They like winning. They are both cunning and manipulative. They are both protective of those close to them. They both are very career oriented. They are both competitive, witty, charming. Jessica groomed Harvey. Most of who he is now is in part due to her. I don't understand how you can like one without liking the other. Acknowledge one's flaws without acknowledging the others. They're the same.

I love Harvey to pieces, but no doubt about it he's being a complete and utter asshole. He's behaving like a petulant, obstinate child. His actions are totally uncalled for and unwarranted. His inability to humble himself or acknowledge that he's done wrong is what's going to keep getting him into trouble, and that's what is going to lead to this entire thing backfiring on him something ugly. Harvey is one of my favorite characters, he probably will always be, but I was never so disgusted and irritated with his character as I was in this episode. He has his head stuck so far up his ass he clearly can't think straight. One of the things that was respectable about his character was his moral code,his integrity, and his loyalty. He expects fierce loyalty but he's also one to give it. For all of his talk of loyalty, for all of his talk about being a man of his word, he's going against that it's kind of despicable to see. You can't be on a loyalty high horse when you're so easily willing to abandon in when it's convenient. The Ava/Nick case should have given him all the insight on that. I loved that case and how it reflected on the current predicament with Harvey/Jessica/Mike, in addition to Harvey's scenes with the other two apart from that. There were so many moments when it felt as though it was actually sinking in that he may just be biting off more than he can chew and doing something that he shouldn't be doing. His face when Jessica was confronting Nick, and also speaking to Harvey in an a roundabout way. His responses to Ava, when she seemed genuinely upset about Nick but also sad too, because she lost her friend and partner. But instead of seeing himself as Nick, and Jessica as Ava, he chose to see himself as Ava and Mike as Nick. It made for a frustrating moment when after all of that, after that case, after the entire rooftop scene where he and Jessica got to air out some of their grievances and she extended an olive branch and expressed that she wanted the to get back on track, he still ended up concluding that he still wants to take her down. It's absurd. He asked her would she change anything, but the question could have been asked of him too? would he? No. He wouldn't. So why get mad at her for responding the same way? Why get upset? She's only doing and saying what she's always done and said. It's what HE used to value in HER.

I have a thing where I can't help but get annoyed with people who punish others for being exactly who they knew them to be. I was annoyed when Jessica got on Harvey's case about his tactics in Brooklyn during the premiere, because he was right. Harvey did what she always valued in him. So I'm equally as annoyed that Harvey is essentially punishing Jessica for being who she's always been, which is ironically being just like him. She's a fighter and a competitor, you push her into a corner and she'll fight back.I'm pretty sure that's one of the many things he respects about her. So he's pissed at her because she wouldn't let him walk all over her? The "So you do think this is my fault?" line was something else, because he still refuses to be accountable for his role in this mess and he's laying all the blame on her. It is his fault. If he never hired Mike and put the firm in jeopardy, half the shit they've gone through this far would never have happened. And if he'd respected the authority she has as a boss, at least some of the time, she wouldn't feel the need to assert it so much. She's not even saying that she's still hung up on all that, she's just saying she wants them to get past it because they've both done shit, and he's too prideful to acknowledge that and let it go. I can imagine the difficulty of running a high end firm as a woman and an ethnic minority, there is always something to prove, and it doesn't help matters when you're greatest ally constantly undermines you. It doesn't matter if he mostly does it for good reasons, he still does it. That matters. He opened the door for anyone to undermine her, and by anyone I mean Mike, for example. I don't know anyone who wouldn't lash out and try to regain some control there. Jessica is far from a saint, but I understand her position.

But back to this loyalty bullshit. You can't harp about it so much but not be about it, and that's what's been pissing me off the most this season. He was pissed at Mike for "betraying him", and doing something behind his back/undermining his authority because he was being blackmailed by Jessica. The fact of the matter is he shouldn't have needed to have been blackmailed by Jessica because she's the boss of both of them, so when she requests something it should have been done. Period. But then you have to think about where Mike would have picked that up. For the past two seasons Mike has witnessed Harvey himself operate under this whole "what Jessica doesn't know won't hurt her" (wrong), and going behind her back, and keeping her out of the loop etc. Which fair enough, it happened. He'd do stuff, not tell her, she'd find out some other way, he'd flash the Specter smirk and all she'd overlook it or forgive him, because it's him. Not always that big of a deal, but you can't do things like that and not expect consequences. So that gave Mike the go ahead to do the same with Jessica, but it also would have given Mike the go ahead to do it with Harvey too. He got pissed at Mike for doing to him what he constantly does to Jessica, but he can't understand why Jessica would be pissed at him, and instead of even attempting to look at it from that perspective he'd rather harp on the fact that his friend, yes, but his boss more importantly, made an executive decision without his input when she had every right to do so. She's forgiven him for worse repeatedly. The difference is she has a right to do these things and he technically doesn't. How can you go on about loyalty when you aren't exactly practicing what you preach either? If loyalty mattered so much he wouldn't have jumped to this decision so quickly that he should take Jessica down. There is nothing loyal about that. Also what happen to being loyal to your employer in general? Some loyalty is expected when you work anywhere. Selective loyalty doesn't make Harvey look good, when he can ignore the fact that Donna's loyalty to him and him alone means she's disloyal to the company she works for and the woman she claimed to have admired and respected, or others who she claims are her friends. Or what about freaking Louis? Two seasons worth of Harvey's stance on loyalty and his word, and then he dismisses the fact that Mike gave his word to Louis that he'd be his associate. Then when Mike said as much, Harvey just brushed it off. He encouraged a kid to go back on his word and be disloyal to someone, all the while being pissed at him in the first place for the same offenses. That makes Harvey a hell of a hypocrite among other things, and that is what made him and most of this episode so insufferable for me. Then he wonders why his name wasn't on the door. He can't handle it and he's proving as much by behaving like a child throwing a hissy fit because he hasn't gotten his way. I can't think of any world where a man who had just got promoted to Senior Partner was going to end up with his name on the door less than a year later. And he still would have gotten it had he not screwed it up, because Jessica still had every intention of giving him that even though he didn't necessarily deserve it, because she's...what's that? Loyal. I mean the entire merger thing was his idea that he was fine with until he knew Scottie was involved.

Um, so then we have Donna who got under my skin too. I never thought there would be a time when I wouldn't like Donna, but I found her unlikeable the entire episode. One of the reasons I like Harvey's relationships with both Donna and Jessica, is the fact that they both can be a voice of reason for him and tell him what he needs to hear. Donna isn't doing that anymore and it's annoying. She's gone beyond blind loyalty to Harvey, it's a blind devotion and loyalty clouded by the fact that she's in love with him, which in some ways makes her the worst person he can be around, because she wields some power over him, which they did a great job of demonstrating when one convo with Donna pretty much pushed him to end this stupid crap with Mike. She's in the position where she can and should be telling Harvey a thing or two about how he's behaving but she isn't. The moment she started off the episode with her only real response to Harvey's declaring war on Jessica as "Will I get my own office" I knew I wasn't going to be pleased with her. And I wasn't. And it carried over into that crap with Rachel. I don't even LIKE Rachel, and her incessant ability to make any and every freaking thing about herself, but I found myself being defensive of her because even though I give less than a damn about her and Mike (like really I'm sick of them already. I really am) the fact that Donna could tell Rachel that she agreed with Harvey and that basically of course she'll do anything for Harvey etc, because it's Harvey spoke volumes. It's the exact same thing I was saying about Donna and Mike last week. In Donna's world Harvey comes first above all us, regardless of whether he's right or wrong. Being loyal doesn't mean you have to disregard your sense of moral decency either. Being loyal to someone doesn't mean it has to be at the expense of other people. From her whole "siding with Harvey is my job" crap to the end when she asked Harvey whether "We" forgave Mike yet (really, what were her reasons for being mad at Mike? He did nothing to violate her personally. And if she were really his friend, she would have stayed out of it, like she claimed she was doing with rachel but really wasn't) ...it just...it's ruining Donna's character. I always applauded Suits for having strong female characters, but then on the flip side when you have Jessica constantly being undermined by the men at the firm, and you have Donna who's whole existence is for Harvey...it takes away from their fierceness. It really doesn't sit well with Donna however, because Jessica's issues can be chalked up as the problems a woman faces in the workplace, but Donna somehow loses some of her pizzazz and awesomeness when she's so far up Harvey's ass they practically share the same head. She isn't her own person anymore, she's a mother fudging "Yes" woman. It makes her weak. I don't like that. Donna isn't meant to be weak. Which is why I cringed at the first hint of the Harvey/Donna unrequited love thing.

I wanted to see more of Louis and Mike. That could have lasted for the rest of the summer season in my opinion. So I was surprised and pissed off when it didn't work that way. They have made such great strides with Louis' character, making him less of a villain and more of just a misunderstood guy who wants to play with the big boys and hang out with the popular kids. He's been justified in his discontent with his position this far...but making him the butt of the joke (no pun intended), making him a colossal joke as comic relief...it is old. It is very old and it isn't even funny. Now it's just cruel. I didn't find the Hitler thing amusing last week, and this week, watching Baby Harvey go back on his word that way, and Louis' face as he watches the two bros reconcile. That was just fifty kinds of freaking cruel. They've done a spectacular job at making most of the likeable and popular characters unpopular and unlikeable. At this point the only ones who aren't getting on my nerves constantly are Louis, mainly, and oddly enough Jessica. She still has her moments but Harvey is overshadowing her by being a colossal dick. She has no support now. That makes her the underdog in my book and I'll stand by an underdog.

"Lady Stark" was awesome. I look forward to what else she has for us next week. I'm aslo looking forward to British Harvey. I'm not a huge fan of all this internal strife, because it's so gosh darn pointless and contrived. I mean it's almost painful to watch and irritating and I hate what it's doing to the characters.

Damn that was long. Sorry to anyone who may read this. Just a wee bit raving lunatic.
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My turn to hug you. HAHAHA. I agree to everything you said. Esp. the hypocrisy. I think for me its just the writing is a little off, like I can find things I dislike about all these characters now that I wasn't finding before. sigh only time will tell.
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LOL! Hug it out baby! I get the whole "Go big or go home" thing, but they are making awesome characters come off like colossal assholes in such a manner that it's going to be hard to welcome them back with open arms, so to speak, when they finally get their shizz together. I mean no question about it, Harvey has always been a dick, but he's been a likeable one because of all the good in him that counters the not so good. He's a complex character. He's a real character, which is part of the charm of this show. But now you have what makes up his character conflicting with itself in such a way that it isn't exactly fun to watch, I'm not entertained by it, I'm twitching a little because it isn't making sense. Same with Donna. In some ways, same with Jessica. Mike, even though he's being annoying he isn't exactly doing anything out of what's in him to do, and Rachel has always been a pain the the ass to me personally. Eh. Time will tell indeed, my friend. :)
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whoa, :D sure been raving, but I wouldn't think lunaticly. I'd agree again with many things, but harvey and jessica being basically the same person? me no think so. apart from very different character traits and ambitions (like his wanting to gain 'named partnership and probably beyond' and her 'let's try to consolidate for a while') there are still levels of subtlety involved. huh, now that I think of it, 'Team Jessica' does also appear to have only one subscriber, namely herself. wtf is up with all these one person teams? except bloody "Team Harvey" there ain't much team spirit. i guess i'll support the strong and silent "Team Darth Darby" :D ; they seem to be the ones with the extraordinary power of Unity.
p.s. well, harvey's a bastard and jessica's a bitch, no questions there, but i sure miss zoë...
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This is the only place I can really rant and rave like a madwoman about a TV show. I get deep. Oh yeah, Jessica and Harvey to me are so much alike and yet just different enough to balance each other out. Excluding the fact that she's prone to think things through and he's more impulsive, for me, you pretty much have the same person.I think that's why I can never really distinguish one from the other. They are their own package deal. And thus, that's why I call those two and Donna and Mike the Fantastic Four. Those four could real the freaking world if they wanted too. Or, you know, before all of this petty nonsense.
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Suits had the chance to start playing in the big leagues and blew it. Resetting Louis gets the show stuck in his light-heartedness comedic side. It would've been a great move to have some Mike&Louis time while Harvey battles Jessica.
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I was looking forward to Team Mike-Louis for a change of pace. Maybe Harvey and Louis can work together to take down Jessica if Harvey's ego will let that happen. Probably won't but I can dream.
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The brief moments where Louis helped Harvey (with Harvey struggling but ultimately asking Louis for it) were pretty awesome. And a show like Suits, as good as it is, benefits almost every time from a change of pace
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Honestly?
I thought there would be a new spin in the story. But with that ending we are back at square one - except the Harvey-Jessica thang.
The new spin would be: Mike & Louis on the law, vs. Harvey on the "I gotta win - in court, against Jessica, against everyone else (except Donna) and against my own ass!" THAT would have been something. Something that would have been a drive for the whole season and maybe bring them back together as a cliffhanger but just in sort of the fnal scene and keep the answer und them closing credits.

But this?

I do not like very much.


me: Team Louis.
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Team Mike
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This season is so beyond anything I really liked that Donna stood by her decisions months ago and is defending her and Harvey. I didn't Mike and Harvey would reconcile so easily but I/m sure agreeing to work together doesn't magically make everything okay so we'll see
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The whole Mike should have said no to Harvey is ridiculous. Why? Because Harvey saved him from having to risk at least his freedom if not his life drug dealing. End of story. (Though not sure why Mike was doing that instead of say, hitting up casinos at Blackjack or Poker...) So his loyalty to Harvey is far greater than his to Louis will ever be. Plus, Louis is the only main character that doesn't know his secret, so that would have been a show-stopper at some point.

For Harvey, honestly, I don't think Harvey wants to be managing partner so that he can boss around other senior partners and delegate cases and whatever other nonsense. I think he wants managing partner just so that A) his name is on the door for ego purposes B) so Jessica stops leaving him out of the loop. Basically, my analogy is this: instead of being just the quarterback that takes orders from the coach, that he can be Peyton Manning and do whatever the hell he wants, without anyone being able to put their foot down, and that anyone being Jessica.

And speaking of Jessica, am I the only one that can't stand her guts? She's emotionally manipulative, Machiavellian to the nth degree, stops at nothing to serve "the firm", which is nothing more than a legal construct on a sheet of paper, and seems to simply be a living extension of that piece of paper, with all the ruthlessness and inhumanity that comes with it, as opposed to sympathetically human. Heck, even before she was in any position of power at Pearson/whatever, she was still a ruthless, ends-justify-the-means bitch (remember what she did to Ella in college?). Oh, and *worst of all*, she's been consistently shown to be liable of being outplayed, such as by Hardman or Robert Zane, and would have gone down in flames if not for Harvey. Sure, her "iron lady" shtick was fun in season 1 when it was about keeping the boys in line with no consequences, but at some point, she should have switched over to running things on a more open, human basis. And no, I can't care less that she's a black woman. I think Gina Torres is stunning and absolutely rocks it in this role--I just can't stand the whole politicking/backstabbing method of running shop. Oh, and she thinks Mike's *still* a fraud, despite bailing out the company three times over, all unrelated to his little secret. At some point, the benefits outweigh the costs, and at this point, Mike's proven that despite his age, he can throw down with the very best of them in the legal arena, which is more than could be said for...well...anyone not a senior partner.

So yeah, out with Jessica as managing partner, and in with someone who has a bit more of their humanity within them still.
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I agree with the first half but I like Jessica even though she isn't perfect~at least she is a strong independent woman* unlike Donna (I love her but she has turned into Harvey's lackey) and Rachel (ugh). I don't think Jessica is horrible and is just looking out for the firm's interests (and her own interests)
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I completely agree that Harvey doesn't want to be Managing Partner for the actual duties of MP. I think it's more his ego, his proving something, and his fight with Jessica is no longer professional its very personal now.

And if you think about it "The Firm" is all Jessica has (as far as we know) so of course she will do anything for it. It's her baby she will go above and beyond to ensure its well being, if she has to be ruthless or mean so be it but she will still get what she wants because its all she has and thats the way she is. I do think its unfair to say she lacks humanity when she actually has so much of it. I guess I watch the show differently, because Jessica Pearson in s2 was vulnerable as hell and even s3 jessica so far, and the only person that seems to bring that side out is Harvey imo. But I digress, we don't know much about her character so idk.

As for Mike, he is a fraud and that's never going to go away. No matter what good he does for the firm at the end of the day if anyone that isn't Jessica, Harvey, Donna and now Rachel finds out. Her ass is grass. Thats constantly in the back of her mind, imagine having to be around someone constantly while all the meanwhile knowing they are holding your livelihood in the palm of their hand. B/c thats essentially what Mike is to her. She recognizes his good which is why she is keeping him around (even tho she was blackmailed into that so thats a different story) but in her mind he will always be that liability that can cost her a firm she has spent her entire life building and possible jail time. It's gonna take a while to let that one go. So no matter how much good he does, it won't go away. I'm sorry, I can't get behind the forget it thats a pretty big deal.
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with you there for the most part; gotta remind yourself that jessica is somewhat holding this firm together, harvey sure as hell wouldn't be able to do that, 'cause in his arrogance he seems to reckon all politicking far beneath him. as he said in this ep., jess was his real mentor. i really don't even dislike her that much (ms. zane holds that special part of my heart :D ). what i really despise is the step from being almost completely broken by the internal struggle within the firm to 'whoa, saved by the merger: let's get back to bickering amongst ourselves.'
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Man, I was hoping Mike would say no to Harvey, and actually go with Louis this time. Louis, although insanely creepy at times, is a good, lonely and misunderstood guy at the bottom, and Mike would be appreciated the hell out of working with him. But I have a feeling throwing the cake in the bin won't be the last of that for Mr. Litt - he is not going to take the let-down lightly. This time either...
It's nice to have Lord Varys in the corridors, though. Although he will most certainly mean trouble, trouble and more trouble as the season progresses...
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I actually have little problem with Harvey at the moment... I can understand his hostility. Though I do wish Lious would stop taking so many broadsides in the show.

At this point though, I just want Jessica to be gone. I am tired of her in so many ways. She started out as a likeable character for most of the first two seasons then she just became Daniel Hardman in a dress. And I really just want the show to get back to a more "case of the week" format instead of these over arching plots. I'm just not that interested in them as the show seems to want me to be.... it was never the draw to the show to me to see these political backstabbings every week.
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Totally agree with your review - in the last scene I just kept wishing Mike would say no to Harvey... It felt a bit predictable the whole scene so it was disappointing as unnecessarily cruel and unoriginal... Suits... You can do better than this...

Other than that, I found this episode much better than the premiere...
  • Love seeing Harvey's ex-boss, now nemesis - Please someone give Gary Cole a TV show, he is just awesome, whether here or in The Good Wife...
  • The cases were interesting if nothing too spectacular... But we had Cat Stark and some dude feeling betrayed and what not...
  • Mike bonding with Louis was actually funny and touching until that final scene...
  • Louis & Donna talking about Mike & Harvey in High School prom terminology was hilarious too...
  • I think Suits is making a good argument for Jessica to not promote Harvey, he is a good closer but too obsessed with winning with no regard for risk. Whether this is who he is or it is magnified because he is 'acting out', this behaviour is not what you want as a law firm partner... So Team Jessica all the way, at least there is one female character in the show whose professional activity is more important that who she's dating (talking to you Rachel - go to law school girl even if it is not Harvard)
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As much as I hate Harvey right now, I do believe that it is all Jessica's fault. It's not just about Darby, but also how she made Mike betray Harvey. So Team Harvey.
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This is what I remember of the episode;
Go away from me Mike I don't want you anymore. I will make Harvey love me again. Rachel bitches. Lawyering. Harvey being a dick. Louis being nice to Mike, and then saying I know I've been nice before and then I turn into a dick when I get what i want, but it won't happen this time. Jessica telling Harvey she would burn all the bridges again. Mike still trying to make Harvey love him. Rachel bitches with a he said she said he said she said rant. [Me hating Rachel even more] Rachel yells at Donna.
I just want a Donna [and Harvey] spin off, where we follow Donna around after work hours. Series name? Head Bitch In Charge.
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In Louis's defense, I believe last time he was nice to Mike and then a jerk was after he heard Mike and Harvey laughing about him behind his back when he left the voice recorder in Harvey's office.

So it wasn't so much "I got what I wanted, and now I'm a jerk again" but more of a "You hurt my feelings, so I'm going to stop being friendly"
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While I did feel bad for Louis, when he heard what Mike and Harvey were saying about him, you have to remember that he put that recorder in Harvey's office to find out what he was up to. It was a pretty crap move on Louis' part, and I'm pretty sure it was still around the time that Louis was trying to get Harvey in trouble.
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Sure Louis is a character often used for comedic effect but this wasn't one of those times. Louis thought he had made a genuine connection with Mike, and Mike dropped him like a hot stone as soon as his mancrush wanted him back. Mike idolises Harvey and he owes him a lot, so I can understand why he wants back on Harvey's good side, but Mike annoys me. He had a good thing with Louis, and Louis seems to respect Mike for his abilities a lot more than Harvey.
I really don't like Rachel. I want to like her, but I just can't. Her character has no substance and no point except for stuff to do with Mike. The crying in the bathroom didn't help either. Grow a pair Rachel. And how can she not get why Harvey wouldn't want people knowing that he has a guy working for him that hasn't got a law degree. She takes it personally, but what if she splits up with Mike, that's what they would need, a hurt woman with that kind of ammo. I hate her being with Mike, they just seem wrong to me.
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Yeh as much as Harvey has been annoying me, I can't blame him for not wanting Mike to be with Rachel. Chances are Mike would tell her about not having a law degree, let it slip by accident, OR she'd put it together herself by being in his personal life.

Ans since she works in the firm, there's always the chance that she'd tell and get both him AND Harvey in major legal trouble. Maybe by accident, maybe out of scorn after a bad break-up.

And, to be kind... it also puts pressure on Rachel. If she knows then that's a big secret to keep and a lot of pressure / stress. So it's kind of unfair to burden someone with that.
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If I was Rachel I wouldn't want to know. If he gets found out, she is done too, they all are. Her career will be destroyed. Plausible deniability.
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She told Mike she wished he hadn't told her. So she knows what a burden knowing is now.
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I must have missed that. Well good enough for her, she wanted full disclosure.
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I agree on both parts. Harvey is the biggest butt-hurt character I've ever seen. It's almost chronic with him. I really like this show, but the constant butt-hurtiness (Harvey, Louis in the past, Rachel, Donna that one time she got fired for doing that really illegal thing, but mostly she's awesome) really slows it down sometimes. In particular, Rachel's the one I like the least. I started not liking her the first season when she made a move on Mike very early on, and he stopped her and said "Sorry, no. I have a girlfriend." Then, instead of being adult enough to handle his very mature, very easy rejection she proceeded to go out of her way to be a complete asshole to him. Um....you don't get to be pissed because a guy doesn't want to cheat with you! Ugh!
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I agree that Mike is half Louis and half Harvey.
And I'm team Harvey. Decisions made by Jessica lately can fit in the person or emotional section. With some of the time Harvey saving her before she makes a rash decision. Also I didn't like her blackmailing Mike. Also Harvey can get Louis to back him in the take over, by giving him Mike. I'm ok with it. Mike can still work for Harvey on the big cases for the Manager Partner. But Mike can happily work with Louis, which can lead to interesting shenanigans. And Mike can then be used as a bridge between Harvey and Louis to replace the many previously burnt ones. This can rekindle the friendship that can create a trio Mike/Louis/Harvey that can be stronger than Jessica can ever be when they are unleashed! And when they come together, the first action of the trio is to kick out lord varys.
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Jessica was going to name Harvey a partner in their large uber-firm, which would have been one of the largest in the world. She had a logistical reason: at that moment they were in trouble. Their recent break-up with the previous owner was making the sharks circle, something that the guest-stars all stated around that episode. They needed something to make them stronger if they were going to survive.

But Harvey didn't want change, and thus tried to torpedo the merger. And failed. After all of that, he can't be publicly rewarded by the people he tried to screw (the new partners and Jessica).

As for blackmailing Mike, it was a jerk thing to do. But want to know what else is a jerk thing to do? Hiring someone as a lawyer who isn't legally a lawyer... something that if it got out would get a few of them thrown in jail AND destroy the firm's credibility.
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Poor Louis.
You're right, we started off in this show hating him, but there's a real person in there, and we've finally had the chance to see it. I truly want to see Louis be happy. Harvey should invite him to the "cool kids table" too. :)

I do not like how Harvey is going after Jessica. In the beginning, we saw Harvey being a true gentleman of his word and standing by her no matter what. I expected him to continue to do that, or at least lash out in some other way, but to go after the woman's head is a bit much and over kill.

Does Harvey actually expect to Darby to trust him as a Partner, after such a traitorous act? Yeah, I don't think so.

I see this season ending with Harvey losing his job. And he should, he should just pack up and start his own firm, taking Mike as his right hand. If he really wanted to get back at Jessica, he should leave and take all of her employees with him.
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I agree, Darby HAS to be planning something. First Harvey tried to screw Darby, and now he's trying to screw Jessica. All while asking for a big favor / pay-off from the first person he screwed.

Sure, one can admire the gravitational field generated by Harvey's massive bal... umm ego, something that a lawyer (and managing partner) should have. But trust is also important and there's no way Darby trusts Harvey.
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– Louis said that Mike is "half Louis, half Harvey." I actually think that's pretty accurate. What do you think?
I think it's more complicated than that.
Mike is "I want you to want me."
Harvey is "I need you to need me."
Louis is "I'd love you to love me."
Jessica is "I'm beggin' you to beg me."
– It's good that Mike hasn't seen As Good as it Gets because that means he can still see it for the first time. Aww. <3
"Oh, didn't I, didn't I, didn't I see you cryin'?"
– IDK about Gary Cole's mustache.
Gary Cole: What kind of roles can I get with my new look?
Gary Cole's wife : You can't get work looking like John Holmes.
Gary Cole: "I'll shine up the old brown shoes, put on a brand-new shirt."
– Team Harvey or Team Jessica?
They're both too wrapped up in winning, the whole conflict would blow over if one of them had someone at their apartment to whom they could say "I'll get home early from work if you say that you love me." Instead they are leaving all this collateral damage like Louis who is probably at home alone, talking to his mirror "Feelin' all alone without a friend, you know you feel like dyin'. "
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a few days ago I read a comment of yours that quoted 9" nails and now this one with Cheap Trick...who are you;-)
no, I won't quote The Who~I'm to lazy;P
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No one knows what it's like, to be the bad man, to be the sad man...
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I thinking more in the line of "who are you" but Behind Blue Eyes works for me.

Found the motivation/energy:
Who are you?
Who, who, who, who?
Who are you?
Who, who, who, who?
Who are you?
Who, who, who, who?
Who are you?
Who, who, who, who?

I woke up in a Soho doorway
A policeman knew my name
He said You can go sleep at home tonight
If you can get up and walk away

I staggered back to the underground
And the breeze blew back my hair
I remember throwin' punches around
And preachin' from my chair

(Chorus):
Well, who are you? (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
I really wanna know (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
Tell me, who are you? (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
'Cause I really wanna know (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?

I took the tube back out of town
Back to the Rollin' Pin
I felt a little like a dying clown
With a streak of Rin Tin Tin

I stretched back and I hiccupped
And looked back on my busy day
Eleven hours in the Tin Pan
God, there's got to be another way

(Chorus)

Who are you?
Ooh wa ooh wa ooh wa ooh wa ...

Who are you?
Who, who, who, who?
Who are you?
Who, who, who, who?
Who are you?
Who, who, who, who?
Who are you?
Who, who, who, who?

(chorus)

I know there's a place you walked
Where love falls from the trees
My heart is like a broken cup
I only feel right on my knees

I spit out like a sewer hole
Yet still recieve your kiss
How can I measure up to anyone now
After such a love as this?
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I must admit, I took the easy way out.
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I'm on team Jessica right now. Harvey is my boy, but he's acting like a spoiled brat right now. True the merger put a dent in his future "partner" plans, but he's taking this waaay to seriously for my taste. Donna will always be safe with me though. Her words spoke true the whole episode. She did screw over Rachel with Harvey's help, but it's Donna, so I'll forgive her for that.

I'm also on Mike's side too. He's being dragged in two directions between Jessica and Harvey, and it's beyond unfair to me.

Louis isn't my favorite character by any stretch of the imagination, but I definitely felt for the guy. Once again, the good soldier gets screwed. It's not getting old btw Mary Ann, nor was it a comedic ending for him, unless you saw it that way. I for one didn't. Louis isn't a saint, but he's not a dick like Harvey either, which makes me like the guy a lot. Calling him a good guy does push it to me, given his history, but I like him nonetheless.
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I kinda wanted to see Mike stay with Louis for the season. Harvey and Jessica are both being petulant brats and need their toys taken away from them. So I guess I'm Team Louis, who has already had his toys taken from him.

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And Mike would learn... Because Louis LOVES the law and is smart as hell if socially totally awkward.
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Me too. I think it would have been an interesting dynamic for a while, even for a few episodes. And it would have been nice to have Harvey humbled a bit and admit that he needs or more importantly wants Mike on his team.
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Could you imagine Harvey having to beg Louis to get Mike back? That would have been an epic scene... for those of us who are sick of Harvey giant ego.

Also, like someone else has mentioned, it would've made for a good mid-season cliffhanger: Mike having to choose between returning to Harvey's side or remaining Louis' associate.

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Magic is a game that the cool nerds of today play. There's like constant events and there have been so many sets even they've given up counting and started labeling them by year. But there's a whole lot more games than there used to be, and cooler ones. For some reason, I still haven't played Cards Against Humanity and I have no idea why this is. I must remember to fix that.
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Cards Against Humanity is a good time, but I can't help but feel like having the cards explicitly inappropriate ruins some of the challenge. Apples to Apples is only "family friendly" until you get creative.
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You don't have to pay to explore do you? USA always sticks to an established script and never reach out, and the script does get boring.
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I disagree that Louis being torn apart in this episode was used for comedic effect, because if that's true then the writers REALLY suck at their job.

I think that this was supposed to be Louis' final straw before becoming a fully fledged card-carrying villain. And, that we weren't meant to be laughing at him, we were supposed to be pitying him (watch in slow-mo, you can actually pinpoint the second that his heart rips in half), before we make the transition to fearing him.
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Would have preferred the Mike, Harvey feud to go on longer. Its gonna be a real tragedy if we go back to Harvey dumping work on mike, Mike empathising with one of the cases and harvey telling him to man up and save the day at the end!


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I am so so super glad Harvey and Mike are back together. I am sad for Louis but he'll get over it besides he's hardly anyone's idea of a saint. Harvey always thinks of himself as being alone against the world until Mike came along, time after time he has taken shit from Mike he wont take from no one I guess that why his betrayal hurt more than most . I could just see he was totally eaten up about telling Mike they were done. I guess it was a relief for him to tell him its okay.

Jessica is one tough broad I must say. I suppose in that kind of rarefied stratum she occupies she has to be. I really loved her rooftop scene with Harvey. I think she laid it all out too bad Harvey really is thickheaded or he would have heard her.

This season has been excellent so far each epi has been mindblowing with plenty of revelations and subplots and just goodness. I thought the exact same thing too about the power Donna has.

PLEASE lets pray Mike stops being a weasel and starts showing some gaddam loyalty to Harvey.I was starting to dislike him always weaselling out on Harvey ( who I admire but don't particularly like, even though he is the best dressed man on TV)

Next weeks episode looks like another epic...I cant frigging wait!

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Neal Caffrey.
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Hmmm if you mean he's better dressed than Harvey ,I disagree HArvey looks way cooler and better in the suits.
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Neal has cool hats!
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Neal Caffrey has greater range of wardrobe. And I like some of his suits better.
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Definitely Caffrey wins this one, he has more of a flair too. He even looked hot (some will say hotter) in his Caribbean attire last season... And most people look ridiculous in hats but he gets away with it.
To be fair, Caffrey has more flexibility not being a practising lawyer like Harvey.
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I just don't understand how Harvey and Donna can think that everything that has happened is Jessica's fault. When Harvey hired Mike in the first place and that's where it all stems from. I really don't get it therefore I don't think his takedown of Jessica is justifiable or reasonable in any way. Donna just does what Harvey says and thats sad b/c Donna used to be on his side but as the voice of reason not his lapdog, I'm glad Rachel told her about herself.

At the end of the day Jessica is managing partner and the only person who has a name on that door, Harvey is not her equal and she isn't obligated to tell him everything. He's just a senior partner, so he's having a hissy fit b/c he couldn't get his way and he's a grown man. I can't deal with all these basic characters who are angry for no reason.

And it kills me when people can hate Jessica and love Harvey when in reality they are the same person. Harvey is Jessica with a penis. I say Harvey is Jessica because Jessica came first and he knows everything from being around her she put a lot out there to make him who he is and he's acting like a spoiled brat and I'm not here for it.

He would also be a terrible managing partner. Because of his attitude of "if you don't do it the way I want it done I'm going to pout like a baby" and as managing partner you can't think like that, you will get dismissed real quick.
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YES! Can I hug you?! I kinda want to hug you right now. I say the exact same thing about Jessica and Harvey! All the time! You pretty much said in a few paragraphs what I ranted about in fifty up above. LOL!

That's what's pissing me off about this season too! People are getting mad and throwing hissy fits for NO PLAUSIBLE REASON! I think, I could get behind all of this friction if any of it actually made sense! I could understand more why Jessica would be mad at Harvey than I could Harvey being mad at Jessica. Jessica made a practical decision with this merger (which started off being Harvey's idea before he found out about Scottie). The fact that it backfired was just bad luck. She wasn't obligated to tell Harvey anything because before she is his mentor, before she is his friend, she's his boss and managing partner. She didn't owe him anything, and despite all of that, she still wanted to make amends and get back on track and he's still being a dick.

Yes, what the fudge happen to Donna? I hate it! She used to be fierce. She used to be her own person. She used to tell Harvey what he needed to hear even if he didn't want to hear it. Now she is a certifiable flunkie. She's his sidekick. She's a glorified "yes" woman at this point. That is not the Donna I like and love. It doesn't make her fierce and awesome,it makes her weak, and reduces her to some lovesick puppy dog willing to do anything and everything for the man she loves even when he's wrong. There is nothing respectable about that. That isn't loyalty. that's stupidity.
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Totally agree - Jessica is the responsible parent who chooses doing the right thing for the firm at the risk of not being cool. Harvey is showing everyone why he should not be a named partner
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I'm normally Team Harvey all the way. Not this time though. I feel like he's being whiney because mommy didn't get him his own way. He needs to grow up, deal with it, and get over himself. I feel like things will still be rocky with Harvey and Mike as Harvey tries to work through his issues.

Louis in this episode was amazing. I love the guy. I just felt so bad for him. He keeps getting screwed over. No wonder he has problems with people. He learns that it leads to nowhere nice to open himself up like that.

This episode was just like everyone was fighting and I was not cool with that. I do want some peace. I just don't want it to happen at the snap of the fingers and everyone be okay again. It will take time to heal.
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I was a bit disappointed with the case actually, it is an incredibly interesting topic that could have done with the multi episode treatment.

Otherwise just a so-so episode.
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What's pissing me off about Suits is how quickly things get resolved! One minute Harvey is telling Mike they're done forever, then 20 minutes later they make up. Out of the bunch of times Harvey got genuinely upset at Mike, I wanted this one to stick a bit longer.

I would've liked if the show took the risk of having Mike on Team Louis for a bit. And definitely Team Jessica. Harvey's a baby when he doesn't win.
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Poor Louis, I felt so sorry for him at the end of the episode. He is my favourite character at the moment . Not good Suits, not good. Why did Mike have to go running straight back to Harvey. I was looking forward to Mike being on Team Litt for a while.

I'm not a fan of Jessica and I'm not really liking Harvey at the moment either but I I prefer it when they are working together, not against each other, so I'm Team Harvey & Jessica.
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That wasn't playing Louis for laughs, that was deliberately making the entire audience feel horrible for the guy. I mean, he baked Mike a freaking cake! But I think this betrayal has the potential to set Louis up as a powerful ally to Jessica, which will be awesome. Stop being such a dick, Harvey!
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I'm expecting Louis to go back to the dark side in that usual turn of writing, from trying to be nice and see where it gets you - building a Death Star MoFo!!
That whole Donna knows all schtick is pissing me off to the Nth degree. If she knew all she wouldn't be such a blank looking muppet who just goes, I knew that. Yeah, get back to answering the phones Ms Tactfully Aware 2013.
Jessica continues being a needy madam who has to live through wins as love and respect. I bet if she had a child they'd end up in porn.
Ah dear old Gary Cole, I miss you on the radio.

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What got me was Harvey having a tanty over Mike and his lack of "loyalty", yet he obviously doesn't care or even think twice about the fact that now Mike is being disloyal to Louis after he had said yes to being Louis' associate.

Even if he wanted to go back with Harvey he should have shown some tact and said they would discuss it later (especially not while in Louis' office) and then also make it a condition that it be Harvey be the one to break the news to Louis that Mike couldn't be his associate.

The way they both treated Louis shows they were both dicks.
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All Harvey cares about is loyalty to himself, no one else. What got me is Harvey is always going on about being a man of his word. Yet, he gave Louis his word that he was done with Mike and then went back on his word so quickly.
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I'm team Jessica myself for now too.

And I welcomed the Louis fun relief because last week's episode was all about back stabbing plans and that gets me tired too fast.

In this site we always get the speech about "falling too much into procedural stuff is bad". But I do like that lawyers have cases. Writers should work to mix the cases up with the more personal stuff, as they do very well here in Suits most of the time.
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Kind of hating Mike right now. REALLY hating Harvey and Donna. Really loving Rachel, seems like she has everything right.
I want Mike on Team Litt! Louis is the only lawyer at the firm interested in the law instead of his own ego, and consequently the only one I like right now.
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No way, I'm on Donna's side. Rachel is annoying in my opinion. Why is she getting involved in Mike's business all of a sudden? When people don't respond the way she expects them too and take her side, she throws a tantrum. And what a b*itch for saying Donna has no social life,just because they had differing opinions. Donna was right to just walk away.
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You can have the opinion that she's annoying, but that doesn't change the fact that she is right. Donna and Harvey meddling in her love life was not cool.
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I'm answering the below response because there's no "reply" button for it.

"I don't see it as an issue of loyalty but one of liberty. It doesn't matter how long Donna has known either of them. You just don't take an active role in damaging someone's love life. You don't do it TO anyone FOR anyone."

Yes, I thought and even said it was wrong for Donna to get so personally involved with Mike/Rachel, but it wasn't done intentionally to damage Rachel's love life. Donna was trying to prevent Mike from compounding the problem by having yet another person know his secret.

If Mike's relationship with Rachel wasn't jeopardizing what Harvey and Donna had done for him, Donna probably wouldn't have said or done anything.
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I see what you're saying, but I don't think I accept the mitigating circumstances argument. Love above all else, basically.
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It can't be that both Donna and Rachel were wrong in their own ways?

I think that's what'll be emphasized when Rachel and Donna eventually make-up (because they're obviously going to become BFFs, I'm sure everyone can agree on that).

Both women were wrong (in my view) for different reasons: Donna was more of the "adult" in their restroom conversation, but she was wrong to take such a personal role in Rachel's relationship with Mike; Rachel was correct in pointing-out how everyone either lied or misled her, but she shouldn't have overlooked Donna's loyalty to Harvey.

The problem I had with Rachel's attitude was how she argued that her friendship with Donna was of greater importance than Donna's entire relationship with Harvey - both professional and private.

The distinction couldn't be more palpable: Donna has known Harvey and closely worked with him for at least 15 years (he graduated in '97, then Jessica sent him to the DA's office for experience where he met Donna), while she's known Rachel for about five-six years.

Yes, I did agree with Rachel about people not trusting her, not giving her any forewarning about Mike, nor being straight and honest with her, but the "Mike-never-having-gone-to-Harvard" problem implicated Donna along with everyone else. Rachel is now a part of that issue, and she was fortunate enough to have not been involved prior to Mike spilling the beans for sex.
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I don't see it as an issue of loyalty but one of liberty. It doesn't matter how long Donna has known either of them. You just don't take an active role in damaging someone's love life. You don't do it TO anyone FOR anyone.
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I can agree about Mike being half Louis, half Harvey. He has this propensity to win but he also cares about his clients. He's an actual hands-on mentor with him. I do wish they would have held out in Mike and Harvey getting back together because I like Louis and Mike together. I understand if they wanted to stop some of the fighting because there was so much this episode and it's getting hard to see all these characters that I love fighting with each other.
Team Jessica. She is ruthless and will do what she needs to do to stay on top but she wants Harvey there with her. She tried to make-up with him this episode but he wasn't really having it and I feel that he is lashing out on her.
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I have to say that so far I love the season but I have a hard deciding which character is right or wrong. I cheered at the last scene but it also broke my heart. Of course, Mike belongs with Harvey, but they should have been able to make peace and still take some time off each other. Mike and Louis work really well together and they have some hilarious interactions. I just like those three guys so much. The real problem is that Rachel keeps being a pointless weight. She's just there to add some relationship drama (before between her and Mike and now between her and Donna). I'm not sure the coup will work, I can't imagine Suits without Jessica. We'll have to wait and see.
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Not cool, Brah/Dude-bro #2!

I'd love a little elaboration on that "impressive line of profanity", MaryAnn. If only to compare it to mine. I may have inappropriately screamed the words "mother", "donkey", "rat-f***er" and "inconsiderate asshole" amidst other inappropriate words.

I'm weirdly upset about this! The mud bath is sacred, Mike! When two men get into separate baths of mud in the same room an unspoken bond is formed, and you dirtied the purity of that ritual. He fork-fed you cheesecake, Mike! He worked with you, respected you, learned movie references for you, but as soon as Harvey came a callin' you dropped him like a... mean dropper. Like a person who rudely drops things (my English professor always told me you could have a bad simile day, but I never believed him).

Like a few commenters here, I was hoping to see a bit of Mitt action for a few episodes (Mike + Litt... Oh, you think Mouis or Like is better?!). They seemed to work well together, Louis has his idiosyncratic charms, and it would have been nice to see Mike show some backbone by NOT being Harvey's lapdog for the umpteenth time. The crappy thing is right up until the point Mike started smiling that smug smile of his I actually thought he was going to shoot Harvey down. I WANTED him to shoot Harvey down. Harvey DESERVED to get shot down. But nope. Brah/Asshole #1 and Dude-bro/Dick #2 are back together. Yay.

I think it's fair to say the like-ability dynamics of Suits has completely shifted. My season 1 rankings probably looked something like this:

1. Harvey
2. Donna
3. Mike
4. Jessica
5. Rachel

Now my rankings look something like this:

1. Louis
2. Donna
3. Mike.
4. Harvey
5. Rachel
6. Jessica

That's a pretty big change. Louis wasn't even on the board in season 1 and now he's the most likeable character on the show. TV.com power commenter, Mate, very accurately pointed out the antihero nature of Harvey's character. He's a dick, but we used to love him because he's suave, intelligent, handsome and he wins. The modern day Don Draper. But as Mad Men ticked along the shiny veneer of Don has steadily worn off, his selfishness laid bare, and he's no longer the guy every man wants to be and every woman wants to be with. The character of Harvey Specter may have the same issues. The thing is Mad Men is very calculatingly contemplative. Our disenchantment with Don was deliberate. But I'm not sure how the writers of Suits expect the fans to react to season 3 Harvey. It's becoming increasingly harder to cheer for him. Where's the humanity? A moment of vulnerability? Some goddamn redemptive qualities? Because handsomeness and suaveness isn't enough anymore.

The truth is I personally don't like Harvey very much at the moment. Jessica is Harvey with a vagina, which makes the indignation of their mutually perceived betrayals quite ironic, and Jessica just as unlikeable as Harvey. Mike was semi-likeable until he blew off Louis at the drop of a hat. I've always been meh on Rachel, but I even found myself siding with her over Donna in this episode, something I thought was an impossibility.

Then there's Louis. Mud bath taking, cheesecake feeding, Jerry McGuire quoting, ludicrously loveable Louis. From despised nemesis of the cool kids and not even on my radar to my favourite character on the show. The writers have done very good work fleshing out his character. Something they're going to need to do with Harvey, and soon.

It may seem like I'm putting too great an emphasis on the like-ability of the characters, but on a show that is at its core a proceduralized series of convoluted legal battles (I never watched House for the medicine and I sure as hell don't watch Suits for the law) it's important to able to like and cheer for the lead characters. If I don't like Harvey or Mike then why should I give a damn if they win yet another case I don't even try to legally follow? Suits isn't Mad Men. Philosophical conceptualization is not its strong... suit (Ugh). I need to be invested in the characters shit. Give me a reason to care again.

With the exception of Donna. I'll always love Donna.
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It's worrisome that while I was watching this I thought "Oh damn they're just going to make him fall like Draper."
I will always choose Donna over everyone on this show though, Rachel has no chance for me siding with her!
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We think alike! And I understand your hesitancy to side against Donna. How is that woman still single?! ... Oh yeah, Harvey.
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Brilliant post, FF (hope you don't mind that lazy nickname).

The very last paragraph of your grandiose review was exceptionally poignant and pensive; it has essentially reached the point where I don't even care about Mike or Harvey anymore, and this is a series which was established on the basis of both Mike and Harvey building a strong bond in spite of their grave transgression - while simultaneously making the viewers root for their "team," nevertheless.

Now? They're behaving like immature and inconsiderate jerks without a relatable scruple between the two of them. Harvey, in particular, has been increasingly nerve-racking for literally espousing the most glaring hypocrisy of any character in the show. Harvey's recent attitude and actions towards Jessica (justifiable or not) were exactly what he deemed reprehensible when he was on the receiving end of Mike's (not to mention Mike's hand was understandably forced by Jessica's power of him, while Harvey is simply acting-out due to his pride being hurt).

I've always loved Donna for many reasons, but I feel as if her character still has room to develop beyond the sequence of events pertaining to her relationship with Harvey in season two. With that said, Louis is now (and by-far) my favorite character in the series, which - as you so appropriately mentioned - wasn't even fathomable in season one. It really does accentuate the superb writing quality with regard to Louis' character, seeing how far he's come and how he's perceived - both "in universe" and out.

Thus, I'd rank character likability/my favorite characters as such:

1. Louis
2. Donna
3. Rachel*
4. Jessica
5. Harvey
6. Mike

*Yes, I know Rachel being ranked above Harvey (or anyone else for that matter) may come as a shock to some "Suiters" (partially a straw-man argument on my part, I admit), but I've actually felt bad for her as of late. The speech she gave to Mike during "The Arrangement" about him succeeding through dubious means while she continues to struggle to achieve her goals was genuinely heartfelt and garnered my sympathy for her.

I know that I've considered Rachel to be a relatively "useless" character in the past (on account of being mostly "the girlfriend" and nothing else), but the treatment she's received over the seasons (and this very episode), coupled with Mike's gradual moral degradation has finally made it occur to me: she's too good for him. Of course, that opinion is basically the inverse of one or two seasons ago, when I felt Rachel was too whiny, fickle, and emotionally sour for Mike to even bother with. Character growth (or regression, in Mike's case), indeed.

Jessica. I might not like - or even agree with - Jessica's recent antics, but at least I can understand why she's behaved in such a manner. I don't understand Mike. I don't understand Harvey, either. I do understand Jessica, however: she's the managing partner of a prominent law firm in a major city, and has learned that one of her law-practicing employees never obtained a law degree nor attended Harvard.

If that wasn't bad enough of a dilemma for Jessica and the entire firm (God knows what would occur if news of Pearson Whatever hiring a fake lawyer ever made the front page), said fraud was deliberately hired by her once-protégé Harvey, even after he knew of Mike's striking flaws as a candidate for becoming his personal associate. That betrayal Harvey committed against Jessica was far greater than Harvey's own comprehension of what Mike did to him, and it's not even close.

In Jessica's case, she was practically forced to choose between bad and even worse: firing Mike and accepting the risk of the legendary Harvey Specter leaving the firm (said to be one of the best lawyers in New York City), or, keeping his and Mike's dirty secret which would almost undoubtedly and inevitably jeopardize all three of their futures, along with the firm's.

It's not to say that Jessica was immediately and unquestionably "right" or "wrong" in what she did by blackmailing Mike (the ethics in this show are immensely grey, and they were from the beginning), but the notion of being able to identify with a character's actions is an important aspect to realizing and caring for that particular character.

Mike has become the worst. I remember the wide-eyed Mike Ross, whose idealist mentality of practicing law as an homage to his deceased parents gave a bit of vindication to his and Harvey's scheme of allowing Mike to work at the firm despite his obvious lacking qualifications. Nowadays, Mike is merely a sex-obsessed Harvey Specter fanboy, and not only is it tired and sickening, but he hasn't shown any indication of moving beyond that role.

I'm with everyone who wanted Mike to give Harvey a middle finger, or at least a proverbial "Screw you!" because this newly-resurrected bromance between the two is pathetic and cringe-worthy to watch. Thankfully, there will be more of Louis to look forward to as the season progresses.

Team Litt, FTW! You just got litt up!
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Thank you! I actually prefer that nickname, and someone called me "Frify" the other day, which I didn't care for, so "FF" is just fine.

I must say right off of the bat this was too insightful, articulate and sharply intelligent for merely a reply. This post deserves to be even more than a comment. I must ask, do you write in any capacity for a living? Because I am mightily impressed.

I also think I like your characters rankings better than mine. You have far better reasoning. Can I just copy yours?

I loved the breakdown of Harvey's blatant hypocrisy towards Jessica. Which is yet another reason it's difficult to get behind anything Harvey does these days. He wants to take her down and become managing partner, but how can we as the audience possibly want him to succeed?

The writers have done such an amazing job with Louis, so I know they have the ability to bring a character back from the brink. They need to work their magic and focus on the Mike/Harvey dynamic, and maybe include Louis in their schemings. MaryAnn is so right when she wrote their treatment of Louis is getting OLD! It's made him sympathetic in our eyes, but I'd love to see those three working together and cracking off movie lines TOGETHER! Enough with the bravado "I'm a one man army" hubris, Harvey! That guy is pissing me off.

I think after reading this I'm going to bump Rachel into my 3-spot. You made such a great case for it.
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Cool, I'm glad you like it. :)

Aw, thanks for that. I appreciate the very uplifting compliments, FF. I do a bit of writing for my English and literature university courses, but nothing functionary. Sure, help yourself; although, I wouldn't argue that your rationale for ranking the characters as you did was at all inferior to mine, just a distinction of opinion. I have to admit, I enjoyed an amusing laugh at the sight of "Jessica is Harvey with a vagina..."

Harvey's stunning hypocrisy was actually the foremost reason for why I wanted Mike to finally grow a pair and tell him off instead of promptly rushing back to Harvey's side like a poodle. Louis was painstakingly generous to Mike in every way Louis Litt could manage, yet Mike was either too blind and/or too far-up Harvey's rectum to realize the mistake he's made in becoming so attached to Harvey's hip. What's even worse, is how no one within the show's universe has yet to outright emphasize just how contradictory Harvey's behavior has been.

I don't hold very high expectations for Harvey's character going forward, and I believe it's reached the point where Mike is irredeemable as a standalone protagonist/individual character. In other words, Mike Ross is now literally defined by every singular action and/or development surrounding Harvey Specter. It's almost as if Mike and Harvey are one character occupying two separate bodies, as peculiar as that might seem.

I'm glad you've had a change of heart on Rachel, too.
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I have to ask. Why Harvey above Rachel? I completely understand your reorganization.
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You know what? I don't even know. Maybe another reorganization is in order.
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While the writers have done a good job of making us understand Louis, we need to remember the actor, what's his name, who plays the character. Loathsome and likeable is a hard line to walk, and no one does it better.
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YES! Rick Hoffman does an amazing job with the Louis character.
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Rick Hoffman. He's a genius at turning unlikable characters into likable characters at the drop of a hat. The "Las Vegas" episode "2 on 2" is a shining example. He plays at first a over-demanding casino reviewer who pushes Piper to her limit at meeting those demands, but once she figures out the hints he was dropping (He REALLY liked France) she gives him special French orange juice and he drops his demanding exterior, shows that he's a really nice guy and awards Piper the title of "Concierge of the Year."
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– Louis said that Mike is "half Louis, half Harvey." I actually think that's pretty accurate. What do you think? - I would have preferred Mike having his time split between Louis and Harvey for mentoring, because it would open up a new dynamic for all 3 characters for the season. I do think Louis would be a better technical mentor for Mike than Harvey.

After watching this episode, i got the feeling that we are going to get 3 episodes of Donna and Rachel (much like we have had with Harvey and Mike in the first 3)
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Also, if Mike had to spend time with Louis, then he could become involved with Louis' new nemesis
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I am so glad that Harvey and Mike are a team again. I didn't like them fighting, but I do feel sorry for Louis.
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If you don't know about Gary Cole's mustache, that means you haven't been watching "The Good Wife."
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He's so great on both shows.
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– Team Harvey or Team Jessica?

Team Litt all the way
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Oooooooo, that ending; I'm not sure how I feel about it because basically, I feel both entertained and bored by it. It's pretty much an argument of familiarity vs. change... what do I actually prefer in my TV shows? Do I prefer the familiarity that comes from seeing Mike working with/under Harvey again? Do I prefer the change that comes from seeing Mike working with/under Louis? I generally like both; I like familiarity in some things, I like change in other things... and this is one of those situations where I may prefer both. Which I guess means I'd have preferred to see the change (Mike with Louis) for a while then back to the familiarity a little later on (Mike with Harvey). I feel bored by the fact that Mike is back with Harvey already. It doesn't help that I genuinely felt a little bad for Louis... he had a cake at the ready! He loves law! He saw Jerry Maguire for Mike! But I also never expected Mike and Harvey's separation to last very long anyway, so maybe getting them back together this quickly just sped up the inevitable.
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Oooohhh, I've been wanting sooo much to tear this episode apart... When I saw the previews, I immediately thought of the weasel Louis used to be in season 1, specifically episode 2 "Errors and Omissions" and how he pretended to be Mike's friend just to have him woo a client so Louis could take credit, and was expecting the same trick on a now-extremely vulnerable Mike, but that didn't happen. In fact, it was quite the opposite. Louis has evolved from his season 1 self. He isn't a manipulative weasel anymore. In fact, I dare say he's the ONLY character on the show who's using his Senior Partner power responsibly. He didn't talk down to Mike, worked WITH him in research rather than merely assign him the work and expect the results, gave him brain food, and when things got tough, showed Mike a way to relax (albeit a bit awkwardly) which gave Mike the inspiration to win the case-of-the-day. Louis never let his ego run rampant, actually cared about his client but didn't let that cloud his judgement... he did everything RIGHT this episode, and yet Mike STILL chose Harvey IMMEDIATELY after Harvey said "come back, Mike." If this were season 1 Louis, or even the first half of season 2, I would be ok with that, but after the episode where Louis tried to quit and Jessica admitted that Hardman, as evil as he was, was right in making Louis a Senior Partner, Louis has admitted his mistakes, corrected himself, and is doing everything he can to truly live up to the title he was given.

Because of this, I am REALLY pissed not only at Mike (he's always been stupid, so I give him a pass) but at Harvey, Donna, and ESPECIALLY Rachel. Rachel worked with Louis and liked it, he took the blame for her not getting into Harvard to spare her grief from not being good enough (despite eventually being forced to admit the truth) and post-season 1 he's been polite and cordial to her, and yet she was FIRMLY against Louis taking Mike under his wing. WHY? Harvey barely knows Rachel's name and only sees her as the paralegal Mike is in love with. He's only had ONE 1-on-1 time with her, and he basically acted like a dick to her and used her only to distract her father. And that was BEFORE Donna dropped the bomb on her this episode. Why is she so adament on Mike being with a spiteful ego-driven maniac lawyer than a quirky yet good hearted lawyer who actually admits he's wrong?

And now we go to Harvey... who's becoming arguably a bigger idiot than Mike. He saw his client's right hand EXACTLY as he saw Mike and didn't even bother checking out the reasons for what he did. Even when the truth came out and the client actually showed some sympathy and understanding, Harvey still brushed it aside saying "he still backstabbed you. He doesn't deserve your pity." Jessica had to practically beat Harvey over the head in telling him that she deserved all of his rage, not Mike, and Harvey still didn't listen... until Donna told Harvey to forgive Mike. Then like magic, Harvey comes back to Mike, WITHOUT ADMITTING HE MADE A MISTAKE, and they're bros again. I really hope Harvey goes down hard. He used to be a jerk with a heart of gold, but post-Hardman he became a jerk, and post-Darby he's a complete a-hole.

Jessica again confuses me. In her argument with Harvey she admits that all of her problems with him stemmed from his boneheaded decision to hire Mike, and being forced to keep him on, but Jessica was given an out when Harvey fired Mike in a rage last season, and yet she overruled him and kept Mike on? WHY? Jessica has no right to complain anymore that her firm would be better without the fake-lawyer since she kept him on when she had a chance to get rid of him with no negative consequences but didn't.

Donna is a bit more difficult to pinpoint how I feel about her. Yes, she is awesome and very sassy (and sexy) but she isn't perfect. Season 2 showed that even the great Donna can make mistakes, and her rage at Mike and her willingness to follow Harvey against Jessica is not really justified. I don't know whether it's because she's loyal to Harvey or because she secretly has a grudge against Jess for firing her (though she admitted that she made a mistake) but Donna is USUALLY the voice of reason, and Darby has, in their only moment together, been courteous to her, so she doesn't have any reason to be against Jessica and the merger and certainly no reason to be gung-ho about Harvey's all-or-nothing coup plot.

As for Mike, all I can say is, judging from the hilarious conversation between Rachel and Donna, if the lawyer thing doesn't pan out, he can always find work as a male porn star...

Overall this is a great yet heartbreaking episode that highlighted the positive changes Louis has gone through as well as the negative changes the rest of the cast have gone through. I have to admit, this is the first time EVER that Louis didn't deserve what ultimately happened to him. I just hope this doesn't cause him to revert to the manipulative bastard he was in season 1. Shame on you, Harvey!
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Not a fake lawyer, because of the law in New York in 2011. Just a fake Harvard graduate.
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-Accurate, but I still don't like Mike
-Meh
-Gary Cole can do whatever he wants. Mustache? Yes
-Harvey
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