So I was watching the season 4 episode "Death Takes a Holiday" last night and I noticed somthing interesting. This morning I started looking around on here and saw that Libra113 had already brought it up once but I thought I'd give the topic its own thread since I was surprised it didn't interest more people when it was first mentioned. Basically I'm wondering if anyone else took stock of the fact that the scythe Alistair used to kill one of the reapers in DTAH was the same one Crowley gave to Dean so that he could attempt to kill Death in "Two Minutes to Midnight".
In TMTM Death thanks Dean for returning his Scythe and then claims he is being forced to do Lucifer's bidding. He then notes that he wants Dean to put Lucifer back in his cage so he can be free again and it got me thinking about how likely Death's story really was. If Death thanked Dean for returning his Scythe it makes one assume Death had the scythe stolen from him previous to that episode. Yet, in DTAH Alistair claims that Death was the one who gave him the Scythe in the first place so he (Alistair) could kill the reapers and break another seal and help set Lucifer free.
Dean: You're going to kill a reaper with that? Little on the nose don't you think?
Alistair: ...You think so? I got it from an old friend. You know he doesn't really ride a pale horse? But he does have three amigos and they're just jonsing for an apocalypse! It pays to have friends in low places don't you think?
Now, earlier in the episode (DTAH) when Alistair confronts the brothers in the cemetary he claims he wants to make things quick becayse he has a date with death. Now at first reflection one would have assumed he was talking about meeting one of the reapers, but what if he was actually refering to Death itself? What if Alistair somehow had access to Death before it was released by Lucifer?
Upon relfection I can think ofthree things this might mean:
1- Death was partially lying to Dean when he said he was being controlled by Lucifer and was actually working a bigger game plan when he told Dean how to trap Lucifer.
2- That Alistair was lying (which is certainly something we would expect from a demon, although I can`t think of a logical reason as to why he would in the first place) and the demons were somehow able to steal it from Death. The demons I`m refering to would of course be actually just one demon- Crowley. This would mean that Crowley was encouraging the release of Lucifer before he considered that Lucifer would actually want all of the demons dead.
3-Crowley indeed gave it to Alistair because Crowley is, as some of you have already speculated, actually Death.
Peronally I think a combination of the first and third theories are the most likely. As a few of you also noted, the similarities between Crowley and Death in TMTM were a little to coincidental, however subtle they might have been (e.g- the english accent, both liking pizza, etc) not to mention the way Crowley miscalculated Death`s position and then randomly found it was a little too random. Secondly, if Alistair was lying, and he did get the Scythe from Crowley, that would mean Crowley would have had to steal it from Death at some point which I have a hard time imagining happening to a being that claims it could reap God.
My only problem with that theory is it would mean that Death would have had to already be free before Lucifer raised it. I have a few ideas as to how that problem might be overcome but they all seem a little weak so I thought I might as well share all of the above with everyone and see if anyone had an ideas of thoughts on the matter.
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