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Bella is more sympathetic, to the point of Anti Villain. Ruby is just The Dark Chick and Sixth Ranger Traitor.
And Lilith is magnificent, the marital status of her parents notwithstanding.
I miss Ellen, she was like a female Bobby.
Seems there was a major learning curve to get her right and by they time they were starting to get the hang of it they killed her instead.
|I chose Ellen since after that flashback episode with Ellen/Bobby together just made me realized how much I truly missed her. The show should never have killed off Ellen or Jo. Jo was a bit annoying in exit Wounds in season 2 but clearly by season 5 the actress really found her groove and she had grownup alot. I would have loved to see her progress a little more.|
I always liked Ellen but this is how I felt about Jo. I was just starting to like her when she was offed but if I had to choose between the two I'd rather Ellen not die.
|The thing I feel the most sorry for the writers of this show about is that some viewers get kind of ticked off if Sam and Dean aren't front and center for most (if not all) of the time. |
In that situation it can be kind of hard to feature anyone else and show their charater devlopment and all that since there are only so many minutes in an episode and so many episodes per season.
Difficult balancing act for anyone to be sure.
|Yeah, you start adding characters after the first season and some fans will feel like the new characters are 'taking the show away' from Sam and Dean. |
The sad fact is: If you want to properly develop charactes it takes screen time and there's only so much screen time so every minute you give to one character has to be taken from another and there are a lot of vocal people who don't like it when the time comes from Sam or Dean.
Hell, it wasn't until this season that Bobby had an episode of his own and it was also this season that Cas got an episode of his own (the only reason Jimmy got an episode to himself before that was becasue the story required it and even then Jimmy's parts were short flashbacks).
When you add characters, the show is from Sam and Dean's POV, so I dont see whats the issue with new characters. Thats true with Bobby and Jimmy, and yes the story required it.
Yeah thats true, they didn't see it sooner until it was too late, and yep they made their choice. If it were me, I'd have turned the show into a 5 person show, but only Sam and Dean appear in all 22 episodes, whereas everyone else appears in 13-15 episodes. This is what they did on Charmed or Vampire Diaries, and it worked well. The attention was still on the main's. But they made their choice, and its tough luck.
|Yeah but there's an odd phenomanon with this show where if Sam and Dean aren't front and center for most of the episode (or nearly all of it) then there are people who are gonna complain and be unhappy. |
Not only that but there are Sam fans who get upset if Dean gets more screen time than Sam and visa versa. That's why when they part company it's not for long and why they would never have Sam go full on evil and take off and have Dean trying to track him down for more than a couple of episodes. Which is a shame because it kinda closes a lot of doors storywise.
|Kinda like that line from "Legion" where Micheal tells Gaberial that God favored him because he (Micheal) gave him not what he wanted but what he needed. Always loved that line even if it comes off a bit like two chicks fighting over a man. |
Yeah, in the early days there seemed a real drive to keep the fans happy (or at least as many as possible) becasue ratings were so low, guess they didn't want to alienate anyone. By the time the ratings got to the point where they didn't have to worry so much the damage was done and it was such a habit to bend to the will of the majority (or at least the majority that was vocal enough to make their feelings heard).
Maybe once they're at a point where things are winding down for good and they know there won't be another season they will start to take chances and do the bold moves, at least I would hope they would go out like that.
Good point with that line, haha I forgot about that, yep like that.
Thats true they did that in the early days, I wouldn't say the ratings were that low, they were at its highest in season 1, got 5 million in the early episodes. But your right when the ratings got to a certain point, they didn't have to worry about stuff like that. SPN fandom does have a very local and wanting to be heard voice. But tbh I didn't think if they stuck there guns to there original stories, it would of effected the show much, other than fans complaining, but I think over time fans could accept storylines, I think the problem is some just cant wait for things, like in season 6 with answers to current storylines.
I hope once the now the end is coming, they will make bold moves and I hope they do attempt this.