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Teen Wolf S03E06: "Motel California"

Except for the time I witnessed an animatronic animal band come alive and eat my stepdad, I love to be scared. I don't know what it is about the horror genre, but it really puts the the go-go juice in my scooter sometimes. Horror works differently for everybody: If your life is IRL scary, then scary movies can help exorcise that stress. If your life isn't scary at all, then scary movies can provide an experience necessary for emotional development. Most importantly, horror's got that push-pull, build-release pleasure explosion that—and I'm no brain doctor—mirrors laughter or sex or just the general sense of relief we all constantly crave. It's just fun! Obviously we are all unique snowflakes with personal preferences about what constitutes scariness, but for me the most terrifying things are the ones that are weird, abstract, unexplainable. I don't need explanations. I don't even need logic. In fact, I insist that those things stay home. I like my horror dreamy and hard to pin down. You can have your whodunnit slashers where everything's explained in the end by some detective or reporter; I want the ambiguity and loose ends of HalloweenHellraiserSuspiria. I don't need to know what's happening at all times, because that knowledge just makes things too understandable and hence less scary. I want to be confused. Confusion is scary! And so, therefore, was this week's episode of Teen Wolf.

Whereas last week's episode was basically Teen Wolf's version of Picnic at Hanging Rock, "Motel California" was like this show's take on Italian horror. Just so much dream logic, colorful imagery, psychological terror, beautiful camera work, ambient music. It didn't move the main story along so much; instead it was more of a stopoff, a midseason "bottle episode" meant to check in on and then disturb our favorite characters' mental states. And I don't know about you guys, but I thought it was effective as H.

I really hate "Hotel California" but I REALLY LOVED "Motel California." Let's talk about it!

Everything started, as everything since the beginning of time ever has, at a crappy motel in Glendale the middle of the desert. A wounded and bleeding man hobbled out of his old-timey pickup truck and rented a room. The only thing was, it was VERY unclear when EXACTLY this was all going down.

I can't be sure, but I'm guessing it was happening sometime in the 1970s? The only reason I know this is that the newspaper we saw looked tattered and yellowed, which is how all newspapers in the 1970s looked even when they were hot off the presses. So yes, anyway, we were in FLASHBACK territory, folks. 

So then the dude didn't even bother unpacking his duffel bag! Nope, his first order of business was to look at his bleeding torso in the mirror, gaze forlornly at the full moon, sorta turn into a werewolf, and—

Oh man. Oh jeez, oh man. I really hope he left a tip for the maid on the dresser first. Shotgun suicides are NOT very respectful to the housekeeping staff, you know? Unfortunately we will never know who this mysterious man was.

All we know is, he took a fantastic driver's license photo. Rest in peace, stranger.

So flash forward tons of years later and the Beacon Hills cross country team (and several hangers-on) exited their school bus, I guess because the driver didn't want to do his job and drive everyone back to school? This was the same day one of the students practically died in a rest stop bathroom and another one puked all over everything and another student nearly beat another one to death, so yeah, maybe everyone needed a restful night's sleep in a desolate, depressing motel in the middle of nowhere.

Obviously Lydia had a baaaaaad feeling about this place, which, fair enough. Living in Beacon Hills will do that to you. I'm guessing she also has bad feelings about burnt-down houses, ice rinks, hospitals, her own house, high school, forests, and Blockbuster Video.

Obviously Stiles and Scott shared a motel room (aw, Isaac) and while Scott sort of, I guess, continued healing from the time earlier in the day when he almost died from sadness, Stiles went over all the possible culprits behind the druidic murders, a list that included the creepy vet, Lydia, the now-dead Mr. Harris, and Derek "twice." I liked this conversation also because they reminisced about Matt the Season 2 mini-hunk who tried to murder everybody via a shapeshifting adonis-lizard-slave because he almost drowned at a pool party. It was a nice little stroll down memory lane. (I bet the ghost of Matt is so bummed that he's basically the only villain who's ever legit died on this show.)

So, right off the bat, strange stuff was going down. For example:

Uh, what's going on Teen Wolf? Forget something?

Here, I fixed it:

But also strange things were happening to all our favorite wolf boys! Boyd destroyed a vending machine so that he could eat peanut-butter crackers, and also Scott walked into Allison's motel room bathroom while she was taking a shower.

He snapped out of it, but still. WHAT was going on?

Oh THIS LADY was going on. The front desk lady with the rattling tracheotomy hole explained to Lydia pridefully that this motel had the all-time record for in-room suicides!

So yeah, not that we needed more reason to be creeped out by this joint, but the front desk kept a legit, framed tally of how many people had committed suicide in their establishment. It wasn't clear how many of those 198 suicides were werewolves, but after someone mysteriously changed the tally to 201, it seemed like at least three wolfboys were marked for death. Or at least marked for staring at broken TVs, Poltergeist-style.

Oh, Isaac. Go find Scott.

Because Lydia is officially some kind of psychic when it comes to death and trauma, basically anytime she approached a grate of any kind she heard the voices of people from the past as they geared up to commit so much suicide. Like in this scene, when she heard two people openly discussing their murder-suicide through an A/C vent followed by GUNSHOTS.

Lydia and Allison ran next door to check on that room but it was uninhabited and under renovation. There was a nice moment when Allison, who hadn't heard those noises, told Lydia sincerely that she believed her. It was really nice and made me like Allison so much. At some point when you live in this kind of world, skepticism seems more and more forced. Like, duh, pretty much anything was possible at this point, so why not actually be there for your friend?

Oh, but this was a nice and creepy touch: 

The room had WOOD PANELING! Yucky! No wonder they were renovating. Haha just kidding, I don't know anything about modern decor, I live in my car.

Meanwhile Boyd just cannot stay away from ice. I'm guessing he was missing his Zamboni. Anyway, that's when this happened:


Get out of that ice, girl! 

Also Isaac was plagued by mental drama of his own. He found himself all alone in his motel room (where was Scott?) and suddenly he was reenacting both sides of a particularly hurtful argument with his abusive dad who had been eaten by a lizard last season. Yes it was sad and distressing (and really good acting), but mostly this scene meant that we got to see Isaac's face from so many angles!

And then he imagined that he was locked in the unplugged freezer again! And now my blood was boiling again! Can Isaac's dad be resurrected Peter Hale-style so that he can be eaten by a lizard again? Ugh, Isaac's dad was the worst. Rot in heck, jerk.

Obviously Scott was physically and emotionally neglecting his bedmate, but he had a good excuse:

Just kidding, it was just a hallucination! Scott's mom did not die in the parking lot of a bad motel during a mid-season episode. Still, Scott did not enjoy seeing that.

Then this happened:

Ethan and Danny took their shirts off and made out on the bed! Obviously Ethan has so far been an evil villain, but it was pretty charming when he discovered that Danny had had some health problems and basically offered to turn him into a werewolf. And it was even charming in a sinister way when he responded to Danny's statement of feeling like a survivor with "I hope you will be." Dang, WHAT is gonna be going down, Ethan? But he didn't elaborate, there was too much making out to be done.

That is, until Ethan's insides started churning and he had to go look in the bathroom mirror:

WHAT THE? Amazing. It was obvious that all the werewolves were experiencing their worst fears or something, but what exactly is Ethan's worst fear? Did he swallow Freddy Krueger? Whatever the case, I felt I could relate. A lot of the time there is a man in my tummy yelling at me to eat Starburst.

In any good horror movie, there's always some out-of-nowhere and totally unnecessary scene where the characters discover old newspaper clippings of pertinent events. Usually it's the main lady going to the library and scrolling through microfiche, and sometimes it's just someone walking into a killer's lair and seeing tons of newspaper articles pinned to the dude's corkboards. In this case the motel helpfully kept newspaper clippings of every in-room suicide in the respective rooms' Bibles. FINALLY, a good use for those things! So yeah, it was nothing we didn't already know. We get it. Welcome to Suicide Town.

Meanwhile Ethan was tired of getting yelled at by the man ruining his abs. 

Stiles and Allison saved Ethan's life by pushing him onto a hot stove (?) which made him snap out of his suicide trance. Phew!

But it was all getting to be too much for Stiles, who suddenly recalled the incident during Season 2 when Lydia poisoned everybody at her party with Wolfsbane and all the werewolves started hallucinating hurtful things.


Lydia was pretty sure she hadn't done it this time, but she also didn't look TOO upset at the accusation. She probably still feels a little bit burned by the time she thought she was falling in love with a saucer-eyed hunk and he ended up being the ghost of Peter Hale. As Allison had said, anything was possible at this point.

Oh, I forgot to mention, Derek was alive and chillin' in his loft with that one teacher. She dragged his pretty ass in there and ogled him for what must have been hours.



And guess what? Despite being at death's doorstep, Derek was still very boner-capable!


That's right, they did so much sex! What does it say about this lady that she'll roll around in the sheets with someone who has multiple open wounds seeping with black ooze? She a freak, basically. Anyway, Derek got some good, good lovin' and his wounds started closing up. So this is an official thing now: Werewolves can die of sadness. Much like I will do if this show ever goes off the air.


So then a clock radio started hassling Boyd about the time he let his sister drown (while ice skating, which OKAY, that explains it) and he decided to commit suicide in the weirdest manner since Will Smith hugged a jellyfish in Seven Pounds.

The logic being that, I guess, Boyd would be strong enough to carry a safe across the property and into the bathroom, but would not be strong enough to lift it off of himself while under water. Okay fine, that works. Anyway, at that moment Lydia had been listening to a sewer grate in the parking lot which told her that someone was about to drown and she correctly guessed it was Boyd!

But Stiles remembered that a source of heat can snap a suicidal werewolf out of his trance and the next thing we knew he was rummaging around on the school bus for a road flare.


And it worked! But part of me wonders whether Boyd was even IN a trance or if he'd been pretty much ready to commit suicide for a while now. I mean, what is his life even like these days? Even Isaac has a terrific new roommate situation to fall back on, but with Boyd, man, I don't know. Anyway, welcome back and hang in there, Boyd.

This was amazing: Look who had been hiding under his bed the whole time!

And then this happened:


HAHAHA. OH MY G. So, just to recap, there are only two things that Isaac will respond to anymore: Scott's calming voice/touch and also an OPEN FLAME TO THE FACE.


But the gang's troubles weren't entirely over. Because lo, standing in the parking lot doused in gasoline and holding a lit flare, was Scott. And he was NOT well.

If you are a human being with a heart and a brain and a soul then you probably got kind of emotional during this part. I have some of those things also and I got VERY emotional. Scott gave a really heartbreaking monologue about how much his life has gotten worse since becoming a werewolf, how he'd indirectly ruined the lives of his friends, how there was no hope for any of them so long as he was still alive. Devastating. And that was BEFORE Stiles started crying real tears and stepped into the puddle of gasoline with him.


It was just, I mean. It was just so good. So good all around.

Stiles was able to break through to Scott and toss the flare out of harm's way. Unfortunately he didn't factor in that there was some kind of evil presence nearby which, I guess, kicked the flare back into the pool of gasoline! Fortunately Lydia saw it go down and tackled the entire gang to safety before the fireball exploded.

And that's when things got WEIRD.

NOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

WHAT WAS THAT THING?? GET OUT OF HERE!!

Yeah, so the kids slept in the bus that night and nobody ended up committing suicide. Well, maybe Jordan the vomiting kid did, but none of the main characters did, so overall it was a victory. Ethan even thanked Scott for saving his life (but as Stiles pointed out, HE had been the one to do so) and offered a free bonus tidbit that Derek was alive and his friends would probably be murdering him soon. Cool, thanks, guy!

I really thought this was so dumb, but here it was: The reason the werewolves had been hallucinating was that someone had put Wolfsbane in the coach's whistle and so every time he had blown it the day before, he'd been accidentally poisoning the werewolves. So yeah. That was the explanation. See what I'm saying? Aren't explanations the worst sometimes? I mean, I guess there was some other supernatural thing going on with the motel itself, but according to this episode, the druids needed to sacrifice three werewolves, and their plan was to wait until there was a cross-country field trip, place Wolfsbane in the excitable coach's whistle, conspire to get the whole group to stay overnight at a very specific motel where at least three of them would definitely commit suicide, and then... I'm not sure? Yeah, see what I'm saying? Useless. Couldn't this have just been a standalone thing where the werewolves had the misfortune of visiting a hotel where there was Wolfsbane in the paint and it wasn't some larger conspiracy? I don't know. Look, I am nothing if not an apologist for this show (though I make no apologies about how good this season is overall), but I could have done without this lame explanation. Everything is way less scary now! That's just me, though.

Oh, but this was a pretty killer ending. Earlier we'd seen Mr. Argent investigating the brokedown mall, using his tracking skills to clearly recognize that his daughter was back in the mix, werewolf-wise. Also he recalled that his uncle (the dude from the opening scene) had committed suicide in the same motel where Allison had been staying. So where did he go to find out who'd bitten his uncle in the first place?



Hahaha! He went to the werewolf retirement home! Oh man, I wish this reveal hadn't been spoiled by the 'guest star' listings at the beginning of the episode, but still, it was great to see Gerard again! Just chillin' in a wheelchair dabbing black ooze from his nose and mouth. Anyway, he confirmed that his brother had been bitten by THE DEMON WOLF, and that meant that Mr. Argent was more than likely switching back into vengeance mode. As much as he'd been enjoying sitting up in his apartment doing paperwork, it was clear he'd be back in the game in no time. That time has come.

Guys, I really, really liked "Motel California." Yes, it was much more of a standalone episode than what we've come to expect from Teen Wolf (I might've preferred if it were entirely standalone), but if more standalone episodes were straight-up horror hours I'd be happy. This thing was scary! And emotional! And well-done in general. I would watch it again in a heartbeat and I think I will do that RIGHT NOW.


QUESTIONS:

... Is an open wound a sexual dealbreaker for you?

... What is the best terminology to describe what exactly Lydia is?

... Does Scott need to be more careful about leaving Isaac unattended?

... How excited are you about the Druid villain now?

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AIRED ON 3/8/2016

Season 5 : Episode 20

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We do know who the man who comitted suicide on the full moon. His id says Alexander argent it means that he killed himself because of the code.
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i think i know what Ethan's greatest fear was, it was that his brother that can jump in his body was trapped there and couldn't get out, that's why he wanted to slice his self open. Pretty chilling and sad if you think about it.
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Lol, also the way Jennifer(that's her name right?) was kissing Derek from behind had me curling my toes in embarrasment. I mean, it looked SO unmanly! And I mean, manliness is like the only thing I demand from Derek, and pretty much the only thing I don't get...
I know it can be manly to love, but seriously? This woman, he doesn't really know, and she's coming from behind and they kiss like a couple that's been married for years - Yuck! Unsexy, well how would it be sexy with wounds anyways, and very much just stupid looking, and yeah I'm probably just being stupid or overreacting to stupid things but that seriously made me want to puke - Desperado Derek is NOT sexy, and I really need to stop expecting anything from that character...

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Oh, this review was great! Described a lot of what I was feeling...
I just finished watching the episode and had the worst need to discuss it with someone, then realized none of my friends are even watching this...
I liked the thing with all the wolves experiencing their worst fears, and the whole suicide-motel-story, and also the fact that Lydia was able to hear the dead, that was quite cool.
But seriously, some things were just to weird - As you've pointed out, the whole teacher banging a very wounded Derek was just weird, not to mention that I don't like that thing going on between the two in the first place. It feels forced, awkward, like the writers thought something like: We need to stop the Sterek movement, let's go get someone for Derek.
And it's just waaaay to fast paced. Also, since I read a lot of fanfiction, I tend to forgot how embarrasing a character Derek really is.
"Everyone around me gets hurt, blablabla, you should stay away"
Well, wasn't it you who went up to her car in the first place?
He's waaay too dramatic. I seriously don't like him, I've now discovered.
The thing with Aiden and Ethan just peacefullty going to school seems so weird - And Ethan/Danny? While I ship it a whole lot now, and definitely liked that scene of them, it just came kind of out of no where. Like, why is Danny suddenly hanging out with him, not to mention making out with him?
This show needs to slow down just a tiny bit...
Stiles was awesome, as Stiles is. Everything about him is great. I love the way his character is becoming more skeptic about Lydia, for one, and just becoming more mature all together. I also like Lydia's character now, and actually also the way Allison is now.
The bathroom scene with her and Scott was just crazy though, in a situation like that she should have been a LOT more scared... I mean, he's kind of being super creepy-I-could-rape-you-ish. That's how I saw him anyways.
Well, overall the episode was great - It helps me to get all the bad things about it out of my system. I'm actually still quite skeptic about the show, since I think it's trying too hard, being over-dramatic, and is just plain stupid at some points, but I'll keep watching it because it has some nice points, and how would I be able to leave the characters anyways? I've lasted for more than 6 months on not watching it (since Jackson and Erica were some of my faves.) but with all the Stiles-stuff going on in the newest episodes, I'm just gonna have to catch up :3
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Stiles is always the best when it comes to crying, I have never found an actor that looks so attractive and sincere at the same time while crying. Also Isaac should never be out of Scott's sight, or at least someone who can take care of him (Stiles, Derek, maybe Allison), the boy has issues and terrible luck.
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Stiles was very meh in that scene, but holy hell, Scott out-acted everyone! How did this dumbo get so good! I agree that the explanation was unnecessary and sorta made a good episode lame.

PS: That was the first time I have seen a gay scene take it that far on a tv show. I'm a straight guy, but man we need more of those. It was damn hot and I've no shame in admitting that.
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Here's the thing Lydia was the only person who saw the demon like figure in the fire and well us of course but she was never able to pin point who it was. Also in the school bus Lydia saw some kind of purple stain on the Coachs shirt thats what made her come to the conclusion that wolfsbane was in the whistle. Everyone knows how much the coach takes pride in his whistle. The only people we know that would do this for human sacrifices iss Jennifer Blake. She had the perfect opportunity to do thus because she is a teacher
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Legit died=stayed dead? Cuz he was MURDERED!

Not as funny as other recaps, but the the episode wasn't as funny as other episodes. Decent frights, tho!
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Did anyone notice the man who commited suicide in the beginning was an Argent?
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look what I made you!
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Omg Lml
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First off, Price Peterson, will you marry me? You, my good man, wrote one hell of a review.

The episode was definitely amazing, loaded with "what's next" scenarios and phenomenal acting. There couldn't have been a better actor for any of these roles, as all the actors' on-screen chemistry have developed beautifully, playing well to the unique relationships between them all. The plot of this episode certainly gave a nod to most of those relationships, as horror generally brings out the "hold my hand emotionally" in all of us.

To answer your questions, YES, open wounds are some kind of sexy. Everybody loves a good wound, be it visible through a pair of sad eyes or strewn right across the chest. The fact that there's a ridiculous body behind these particular wounds doesn't exactly hurt the situation, as I'm sure anybody's libido would be enhanced at first sight.

Lydia was an enigma in the first and second seasons. It seemed like her sole purpose was to play the pretty girlfriend, the pretty crush, or the pretty puppet who does some dead werewolf's bidding. With the third season well underway though, her role has become clear. She is a sensitive. Not a full-blown psychic or anything like that, but one with a psyche that has been through enough to become sensitive to all the weirdness around her. I mean, she was bitten and on the brink of either dying or becoming a werewolf, but then she bounced back as her usual attitude-ridden pretty self...2.0. She has been best friends with a werewolf hunter/lover, girlfriend to the ego-driven Lizard Lad, and toyed with by a strikingly handsome alive-then-dead-then-alive Alpha who went from being big man on the street to "I'm still awesome, I just won't be proving it anytime soon." I think since Lydia was exposed to so much beforehand, when she straddled the chain-link fence between life and death, she was imbued with the ability to see and feel the unseen and funfeelable.

Huh. Would you look at that? I just created a word.

Oh, dear sweet Isaac. I personally love that Isaac is a character prone to expression, and yes, most of that has to do with his past. I for one would most definitely love his father to be eaten by Lizard Boy again! The good ol' casting department couldn't have done a more wonderful job at finding the right guy for the job. Fear, sadness, loneliness, a little glimmer of sunshine...you can see it all so clearly in his face. I also love how Isaac has been indirectly cast as Scott's younger brother. I don't blame you for wanting to see Scott as Isaac's protector...it just fits. The writing has been superb in many aspects, this not being an exception. With the threat of Derek possibly killing one of his own and casting out poor Isaac to the streets, where else could he go than to the only werewolf he has with a heart as kind as his own?

This Druid guy...I can't put my finger on it, but there's something sinister about this fellow. If the oh so many sacrifices leading up to this point wasn't enough to make me suspicious of him, that whole attempted murder of Scott and company along with his cloaked in flames magic trick certainly got me thinking. I still don't know what his deal is, but I am definitely all the more intrigued.

Now let's talk about the crying game. I can stand seeing a woman cry. I mean, it happens all the freakin' time. It's about as natural to me as the sun coming up each morning. But when a man cries...fuhgettaboutit. The annoying lump, as I affectionately refer to it, made its appearance in my throat and wouldn't go down until that fire guy reared his super scarred face. Scott has been sad before, and Styles often times sports a set of red eyes, but never has there been such a display as in this episode. I loved every moment of this. There is nothing more beautiful than true friendship, and that's exactly what was highlighted in this episode. Damn you, Dylan O'brien, you beautiful man, you.

Oh, and Ethan is more awesome than I had originally surmised. His scantily clad moment with Danny revealed that his character definitely has depth, and a heart, both reasons to hope for some kind of mutiny amongst the Alpha pack. I love Danny as a background character, but I think it'd be kind of awesome to see him in the know about all the canine calamity around him. Whether that means becoming a werewolf himself or just being the boyfriend of a werewolf, I think he deserves it.

So now that you've thought about it, what's it going to be, Price? I don't have much, but I've got 2/3 bag of Swedish Fish with your name on it if you say "yes." ;-)
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I have to add that I was underwhelmed with Grandpa Argent's appearance at the end. Also, why did they save Ethan? Was it so that the Alpha pack wouldn't think he'd been murdered?
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It would probably be better for the whole "crush the Darach" campaign if you don't give the Darach even one third of the needed three fold werewolf death.

Also, it logically follows with the whole Jackson/Lizard, plus Boyd/Erica/Issac stuff. At this point, as far as Stiles and the girls know, Ethan hasn't killed anyone, at least no one in Beacon Hills, and if they look at him as human, as well as ww, as they do with Scott, he'd merit saving.
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I'm so late commenting on this but I've had a hellish week and I'm lucky I got to see the episode at all. I really liked this episode but I feel completely disgusted by all that sex. YUCK. I like Derek but he had open wounds. Just nasty. What's wrong with that lady? She can't be right in the head lol

That last scene between Scott & Stiles completely got me. It was heartbreaking. I love their friendship.

I truly loved Lydia in this episode and I am so curious about what she is. I don't want that to remain a mystery. I want to know what the heck is going on with her! :P
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I think Price got this one wrong. This was making out, not full on The Nasty. But STILL - in and around open wounds.

However, if Blake is more than female human as many speculate, that could explain her lack of squeems.
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The entire incident was gross lol And it does seem like they're implying that sex was taking place... Oh I wish I could erase that from my mind! lol
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Lydia is some kind of Banshee I think... everytime someone's dying she's there screaming... She's got a thing for death.
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Anyone else kinda disappointed that no one popped up and tried to correct Price's spelling when he put "I'm a abominationn"? I probably would've lost a bet there...
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Nah, just throaty emphasis there....
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Still. I expect a certain degree of obtuseness from the Grammer Police, and it shakes my worldview a little when no one bites.

But I can always hope.
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This was probably my favourite episode of Teen Wolf, maybe ever. I really hope they don't answer what Lydia is. Remember in the early seasons of True Blood when Sookie was just this magical, mystical thing and it was all mysterious and cool and then they said "you're a fairy" and she was like "that's so fucking gay" and we were like "that's exactly what we were thinking!" some things are better left unanswered, like explanations in horror movies.
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Hahahah you're right, Sookie was so much better during that time :)
Or like Starbuck on Battlestar Galactica!
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Amazing recap, Price my man! Enjoyed it very much.

FYI, #TeenWolf Revelations will be on immediately after #Currents on Monday night. Trust me – You don’t want to miss this. This tweet was posted on the official Twitter page of Teen Wolf. Double header Monday night, people!!! Who's ready?! Is what this tweet implies.

Now to the questions:
...This depends on how much germs or open wounds gross you out. For me it really does not worry me, but it also depends on how big the wound is for some people. The answer for me is no.

...I have to agree with everyone else that she is a psychic or has a sixth sense for predicting who will be dead next or already is. I also feel that Peter has a lot going on with Lydia's abilities. Considering she saw him in his high school self beginning of season 2 which then leads her to helping him to bring him back to live. (At first I hated this but has the seasons went on I have grown to enjoy it.) Didn't mean that at all. Peter is bad still, like it or not. He might want to go back to his alpha status. Sorry, that I got sidetracked there, everyone but the main point of this is that Lydia is some sort of psychic.

...It's Issac everyone. He is far capable of taking care of himself when he is not being poisoned by wolfsbane as well as Scott, Boyd, and Ethan where. The one thing that was good about Issac in this episode is that he didn't go crazy and try to commit suicide. He just hid under his bed for that whole episode because of Issac's crazy horrible father that just deserves to come back to life to be sent to jail and face all his fellow horrible parents who abused their children and see what happened to them in prison. Or just kill him again. Issac can take care of himself but having Scott there could help him with future moments of this on full moons. So my answer is no.

...The druid villain is going to be an interesting twist to the show. For one you have someone who is killing for a reason we don't know yet, other than in threes and they are human sacrifices. We also know there are a large group this person came from. I feel more will be revealed through out this season. I am very, very excited!!

We are at the weekend, a couple more days of waiting and then some more juicy details will be given to us!! Monday is almost here!
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Excellent recap :)! Seriously, there's first eagerly awaiting the new Teen Wolf episode and then waiting for these masterpieces, thanks so much!

.. haha, Miss Jennifer, that was all kind of gross. She should at least have tried to get the wounds cleaned first. And patched them up... and had that talk...

.... we should ask Peter. He knows...

.... haha, definitely! Scott shouldn't leave him out of his sight, except for an IKEA Småland maybe ;)...
....very, very excited...
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Loved the episode. The one thing that ticked me off is that during Lydia's birthday party, humans hallucinated too! Then maybe drinking Wolfsbane and inhaling it are different and the latter affects werewolfs only due to their senses?

1 - They are really focusing on "open wounds" right? Anyway, only Derek's would be a sexual dealbreaker for me.. :3

2 - I would say she is a Medium

3 - Scott really need to have Isaac around! If it wasn't for the Isaac - Allison scene, I would have said that he was in love with Scott... so cute :3

4 - SO EXCITED. I find it so much more threatening than previous enemies
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I was reading the comments, theories, tumblr,etc. My opinion is based in the 4 suspects theory of Stiles. This is what I think:

The first part is the Darach. I think that this episode show that the Darach is not human and it's an entity (ghost,etc). That fits the bill to some aspects: the pet owner didn't saw anyone only heard a voice that said come closer and the flare was hit forward to the gasoline by this "entity". The "entity" could control nature like matter (the flare) this could explain the deer, birds and the fireflies.

Deaton said that the Darach was a wise oak(good druid) that went to the wrong path (evil druid). Someone posted this on Tumblr:



Derek has this symbol in his back and JD said that we will explore this symbol in S3. Maybe Hale House (like GoT) or just a coincidence. This take us to the question, Would the Darach can be from the Hale family? If the Darach is from the Hale family and is an entity have to be dead. My option here is Talia Hale. JD said that he "loved" to wrote for this character and leave the door open for more episodes aside the 3:8. But if the Darach is an entity, this raise the question of who is helping the Darach?

4 suspects
Deaton- I think he is a good guy, like Stiles said an Obie Wan Quenoby. He is a great influence in Scott to do the things in the right way.

Cora - she was missing in the episode fireflies when the lesbian died.

Lydia- I don't think Lydia kill anyone. She is maybe like the majority said " seer,harbinger,omen,etc. And in this episode she helped saving the wolves, the opposite to the Darach.

Mr. Harrys- yeah, he is dead now, but maybe he killed the five prior humans ("I did everything you asked") and then served the purpose of being the number six.

Maybe Stiles is right in some part. The two first slaughters was in the three-fold way, but the others being werewolf (supernatural) and do not need a ritualistic death.

Who is also involved?
Peter - for his family
Deucalion- he said the better way of doing something is that someone do it for you. JD said that he have ties with the Hale family and with Talia.




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All interesting, so far not that into the druid vs darach story and seriously hope the end it in the first twelve and not carry it over to the back 12.

As far it being a formless entity, under the dumpster, it bit the dog owner (Bullet's owner), so it has form.
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I really don't think it's Derek or Doc Deaton but I can't rule anyone else out. I love this :P
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Starting with the belief that the Darach is someone that is dead the options are:
1- someone from the Hale Family
2- Victoria Argent
3- Kate Argent
4- Alexander Argent

In the list I do not mention Matt because JD said in an interview that he is really dead.
Kate Argent is a good candidate because she had a great hate toward werewolves and she burned an entire family. The other option is someone from the Hale family.

This villian is the more difficult of all seasons!!!!!
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Umm. Wait is hard, I will start it right now (Though it will have opinions of mine)... please do post your views too.
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Start this discussion in the discussion thread... it would be interesting to see other fan's views. :)
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If Lydia didn't saw the Darach and only saw the evil presence that was in the hotel all the theory is wrong. In the next episode, Dr. Deaton will be kidnaped ( healer's theory).
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Yes I think the healers are still up and the motel was used to try and kill off the meddling werewolves. There were too many uncertainties (4 werewolves, different hallucinations, various exposure to the wolfsbane) to be used in a ritual. I think the ritual still needs to be completed with 3 three-fold death.
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What I'm saying is that it still could've been the Darach in the fire though.
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Price, my dude, I heart you man. Top notch recap.
-Um, if you look like Tyler H. Hell to the no!! Slap some gauze on that baby and let's...Ahem. Um. No. The answer is no.
-Supernatural Psychic Empath? Supernatural, emotional succubus? A teenage girl?
- Isaac needs to be shrouded in a glorious bubble.
-I don't now. Cuz, um, does this mean it's over or..?

-I knew I was going to adore my boy Stiles in this episode when he started out the gate with a Star Wars ref. He's such a geek. He's such an adorable, lovable geek. Then he got his Holmes on all episode, and was a man of action, and it's just been a really great season so far for Stiles.
- Teach is a freak, for realsies! I mean she dragged him into a room with no lights, tossed him on a bed where moonlight cast across his incredible torso, begged him not to die and made no real effort to figure out what was wrong with him. I loved how she was all..."this isn't what I had in mind for our first date." like she just knew she had a shot. Personally, sometimes I prefer stopping black goo from oozing out of a guy over miniature golf. Break up the monotony. but you know, to each her own. It was just so ridiculous, their scenes. It played out like segments of a romance novel with cheese and eye roll inducing nonsense, and yet I haven't been that jealous of an English teacher since Junior High. I didn't care that it was ridiculous, or that she's still suspicious as I don't know what and that basically it was just all set up for them to have sexytimes. I didn't even care, because it was kinda hot. Nothing is hotter than a Man beast with open wounds oozing black blood, staining his already dirty and sweaty white tee, and wonderful scruff pretending as though he doesn't have the energy to bone the more than willing chick that dragged him to the middle of nowhere for the sole purpose of boning. Oh Teen Wolf. I haven't the words. I mean should all doctors be recommending sex therapy for its surprising healing properties or is this just a supernatural thing? I don't know, was that supposed to mean that she was something special? Witch maybe? Or, the woman behind all these sacrifices. She spouts info almost as much as Vet Yoda. She hides it behind all her English teacher gibberish, but she has to be behind it. She just has too. Also, good for Derek, because I'm under the impression in all this time he hasn't been laid in some time, and he kinda, sorta, probably needed it. I'm just saying.
-Also, um Danny! Kudos, I guess. I believe a fellow commenter and buddy of mine once made mention that we can't fully praise this show for their mainstreaming homosexuality with such ease etc, until we actually SEEN it, because there's a difference between having a character said to be gay and having a character actually showing that he's gay, or whatever. Point is, we seen the man love. Lots of boy on boy shirtless hugging. So all the praise and kudos, and it really is one of the best shows out there for that. And yay! Also, it's Danny, and I love Danny, and Danny should always be happy, and I kinda like these twins too, so go Ethan. I thought Ethan was the one who always got, um, fisted, or whatever though, so I thought it was interesting that his fear was his brother Aidan ripping out of him like that. Very interesting. Maybe he doesn't like it that rough after all.
-OMG Boyd and Isaac. And Boyd. And Isaac. I swear this show brings out the affectionate side in me because I just wanted to hold them for a lil bit. Just squeeze them a little. I mean, for starters I nearly fell out of my seat when they actually made an attempt to give my boy, Boyd some background. They dropped a little Boyd history on us. took long enough. He needs...something. Anything other than grunts and the occasional spewing of pertinent information. Still love him though. Now that was the perfect scenario where I would have feared for someone's life. Him dying would have sucked for me, but been believable. And I'll never not get all the protective feels for Isaac. Poor kid spent most of the episode curled up in the fetal position.
-Yes. I'm totally the Bleu-bot but somewhere deep inside of me there was a 12 year old bawling her pretty little eyes out over the entire Stiles and Scott exchange. On one hand I was giving Scott props for choosing to go out like a badass. Yes, I'm twisted like that. Sue me. But so many feelings with his talking about being a nobody, and how things would be easier, and Stiles of course, and their epic bromance. I heart bromances. So much. That was easily one of my favorite scenes of the night, along with that kickass scene with all of them passed out in the bus the next morning. Battling supernatural phenomena and protecting the innocent and oblivious is hard work yo!
-So um. I'm confused though. I understood that three werewolves needed to die etc etc. But was that shriveled up death spirit thing a completely different thing from the druid whatchmacallit killing folk? That had me all confuzzled, because while I enjoyed the episode immensely, I kept feeling like none of what was going on was actually relevant to anything. Like they tried really hard to tie this in to the story arc.
-I didn't look at the credits so I was mildly surprised to see Gerard. The Argent suicide thing was interesting. Chris going to him is interesting. I've been really liking Papa Argent this season. I love his new closeness and trust thing he has with his daughter. And um, I refuse to comment on the mere mention of THE DEMON WOLF on the grounds that, I don't want to.
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I'll have to admit that I don't blame Derek, at least.

Derek: "Naw, gurl; this is...medicine."

I had a pretty bad shoulder gash once after helping a friend move, and later, well...the gf said, "Uhh, no." I'd promised to change the bandage and everything. 'Evs.

As for Danny, well...I did ask for it, didn't I? Thanks, show. (The lesbians could've gotten a little further than half-a-base, but w/e...)

I'm hoping the 'Emperor Palatine on Fire' guy is just the Darach, and not some really-unexplained Crappy Hotel Spirit. Sure, if that was the place I was doomed to eternally haunt, I'd be a dick, too, but I just want that scene to mean a little more, is all. I mean, picture him eevilly sprinkling wolfsbane into the coach's whistle the day before. Eerie.
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We chicks only make werewolf exceptions? Ha. That was encouragement so that you'd heal faster, dude.

Of course the lesbians should have gotten more in. I'm sorry you boys keep getting the short end of the stick while watching. LOL!

Evil spirit sprinkling wolfsbane mojo on Coach's whistle. Awesome visual, except how do you get access to something permanently wrapped around crazy coach's neck?
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No, see, you have to picture the spirit coming in through the coach's window while he slept, y'know...like the tooth fairy. As he fluttered in, landing gingerly, he tip-toed--eevilly tip-toed--toward the coach and sprinkled the mojo into his whistle, and just waited for the hijinks to ensue.

Of course, it'd be a delicate matter, as the coach obviously always slept with it around his neck, but again, the eevil darach tooth fairy does things gingerly. If he could sneak out a tooth from under a bed, he could pull this off.
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I'm actually glad *Teen Wolf* waited a few seasons to show Danny in bed with another guy, especially considering the amount of hot guy flesh it puts out there. I agree that the transition from being comfortable with homosexuality as a concept to being comfortable when actually confronted with it physically is an important step in mainstreaming, but throwing it out there for the audience too soon also runs the risk of sensationalizing it in a way that potentially undermines its emotional credibility.

More importantly, I think the show has allowed the characters to model responses that treat it as completely mainstreamed. In particular I recall Jackson's reaction to Danny's bashful flirtation with straight (and villainous) Matt. Jackson not only recognized Danny's crush, but responded as he would to a straight flirtation, with gentle teasing and absolutely no unease. Having already demonstrated a context devoid of homophobia, *Teen Wolf* is able to grant Danny and Ethan the same screen treatment as Derek and Jennifer...with, as it turns out, considerably more heat.
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I love that also... I still don't want Stiles or Scott or Isaac to be gay lol But I do love how Teen Wolf has presented homosexuality. A couple of people very close to me are gay so I like when shows do things like this. I remember when there were little to no homosexual characters on television.
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I agree completely.
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Is it just me or does this show seem a little off and different to before. Its like the change to LA made it something different. Its a bit mixed up with little flow and feels a little strained. I really liked it before, but I am trying to get to grips with the new format. Hot scenes with Derek though...so maybe I will finish the season.
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It is different. I think they changed the location which gave it a different feel visually. It certainly has gotten grittier, which I kind of do love that almost Gotham City thing that Beacon Hills has taken on. I get the impression they have the bigger budget to go along with the extended season, so they're trying new things there. Overall though, I think it's just more mature now? Like the characters have evolved, matured, and grown. I personally like that, I don't mind that, but I can understand why others don't. I mean initially there was this quirkiness, and campiness, and youthful thing. It didn't take itself too seriously, and it was just fun.The kids felt like kids. All that goodness.

I think now it is taking itself more seriously. Still not enough, because thankfully they still have fun with themselves on this show, and I love that. But they seem more aware of their number of viewers and their audience. I feel like they're actually making an effort not to cater to the diverse audience and not just to the teenage girls that that they probably thought they initially were catering too. I don't know, I can very well be rambling right now so I'll leave it at that. Personally I don't mind it, but it is a different vibe.
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Lydia is a banshee.
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PS: All trolls need to go to hell and DIE.

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I loved this episode too--Stiles made me tear up & that's not easy to do. But I'm frustrated at all the "what is Lydia" garbage; I don't like her, I think her character is useless and I don't really care what she is.

And WHY does Scott keep fighting his Alpha-ness? It's not like it's the Dark Side of the fucking Force ya know?! Smh

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Generally agree with the review. And the Stiles "You'll have to take me with you" scene not just emotional but heartbreaking I admit I had tears right along with Stiles. Probably best scene of show & one of the best of TV this year.
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As others have mentioned, it was nice to see platonic love pulling someone from the brink in a way that is usually reserved for romantic love. Scott and Stiles have been through so much together. It was a smart choice of the writers. Plus, I really like how Scott and Allison have opened their lives back up to other people with their separation. Funny how they have a LOT more chemistry together than before.
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Lydia is a harbinger. Probably.
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hahahahahaha, i think i enjoy these reviews more than the showitself :)
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I'm guessing Lydia is some sort of psychic/medium/psychic with a strong affinity for the dead. The reason she keeps getting taken over, has nightmares, gets visions/soundhallucinations is because she hasn't learned to shield yet.
Why they haven't taken her to have a chat with Mr. Vet yet, I don't know.

Wolfsbane wouldn't explain Lydia's reaction to the hotel - I'm thinking it may have made the boys more susceptible and vulnerable, but the rest came from the Evil Entity (Darach) or the hotel itself.
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Does the fact that Lydia heard ghostly things mean that she was responding to the werewolf bite she got in a previous season, or is she just naturally sensitive to ghosts?
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My understanding so far is that whatever made Lydia immune to the werewolf bite in Season 1 (mentioned by @prowly below) is the same thing that made her susceptible to ghost-Peter's influence in Season 2 and currently makes her sensitive to the darach's dark magical activities and the weird ghostly echos in the Glen Capri Motel. Whatever she is, it is also unclear whether the bite stimulated her supernatural senses or whether she had shown indications of her abilities previously in her life, i.e., prior to the show's timeline, something I hope show writers explore when they finally elucidate her abilities.
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She's got really strong weirdar. She showed up at the lifeguard's murder scene, and the scene of the music teacher's abduction as well. Plus, she was immune to the werewolf bite - she neither turned nor died, which were the only known outcomes until she came along. Since they're all seniors this year, I'm hoping they'll reveal whatever she is unless they're planning on giving Teen Wolf the Buffy treatment, in which Sunnydale magically grew in size enough for it to have its own university.
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It seems that, from now on, when something supernatural goes on, Lydia won't be far away.
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Actually, I think we could get a couple more seasons of them in high school, because even not showing breaks the first season only took up half a school year and seeing as we have had 2 episodes covering the same day they could show what goes on during breaks and make this season half a school year, next season half a school year, then follow @safibwana's idea and do a season of summer. Then possibly Scott, Stiles, and Isaac at one school then Allison and Lydia at another and have them meet up to solve weird goings on at their respective universities.
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They could probably get away with more than a couple more seasons in high school if they keep up the good story lines, action and humor :)

And I wonder if they'd actually go to college later on. I think Stiles, Lydia and Allison are meant to go to college but I don't know about Scott and Isaac.
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Oh, did seasons 1 and 2 both take place during their sophomore year? I didn't even notice! I just assumed season 2 took place during their junior year! Okay, cool! So they're not graduating this year. Awesome.
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Just once, a supernatural teen show needs to have a season where all the characters who have been distracted by weird goings on spend the season in summer school.
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TW sort of did that though. Scott was in danger of failing his classes because of all the distractions. Hell, he might have actually spent time in summer school, since the show time-skipped over the "kids'" summer break. Even if there were no significant repercussions, they at least addressed the situation--more so than any other show, anyway.
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He did go to summer school, his mom mentioned it in the hospital conversation from "Tattoo" (something along the lines of "the reading, summer school, saving for the bike even though it scares me...")
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That's a great idea!
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1. Sinqua Walls (Boyd) - 27
2. Daniel Sharman (Isaac) - 26
3. Keahu Kahuanui (Danny) - 26
4. Tyler Hoechlin (Derek) - 25
5. Crystal Reed (Allison) - 24
6. Holland Roden (Lydia) - 24
7. Dylan O’Brien (Stiles) - 21
8. Tyler Posey (Scott) - 21

If it weren't a supernatural show, I'd say they could do a four year time-skip with the cast returning from college, but then you'd have the question of how the town managed to survive without its heroes. The other explanation being that their existence attracts the weirdness, so returning home puts the rest of the town at risk.
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Ohhh. I see where you're getting at now. They could also just adopt an alternate time formula like they do in comic books. I mean, the X-men have been around for like 50 years now, but the original members have only aged about 20 years in that span, if that.

It might be a little harder to pull off with this show since most of the cast is already in their mid 20s, but it would still be good for a few extra seasons.
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But they could spend an entire extra season in the high school setting without changing the show's formula. No sudden local college. No changing out half the characters. Just one season set in the summer. It's what would happen and it would serve the series, so why not?
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The Ethan/Danny scene was nice to see.
Couldn't care less about Boyd at this point (he has a sister that disappeared? What?)
Not a fan of ghost, daemon, possession storylines; I find them boring.
I don't like stand-alone storylines in a show where plot-connected episodes work best. I liked TW at 13 episodes for that reason. It forced the writers to KEEP TO THE POINT. Fewer ghosts and goblins and more wolf drama.
(Price mentioned "Picnic at Hanging Rock". Picnic at Hanging Rock is my favourite movie of all time!)
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Picnic at Hanging Rock! Yes
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Seriously. I am giggling away here while tears sting my eyes. I loved the scene between Scott and Stiles. It was so emotional and sweet. Stiles gave a stellar performance. I want him to get an Emmy for this!
Loved the Motel episode, it reminded me of the movie "Identity" (with John Cusack), if you don't know it, watch it and don't let logic or explanations get in the way. Although, I didn't mind the whistle-explanation so much, it indicates that it's someone at the school who is dabbling in Druid magic. I would have thought, that Grandpa Argent would be the one but he seems incapable of moving around much (although Peter Hale did a similar stunt back in season 1).

... Is an open wound a sexual dealbreaker for you?
Hm. Hm? To be honest. Not with Derek. *sigh* Who wouldn't want to heal Derek's wounds with kisses and more…? ^^ But the teacher's fate seems to be doomed now. She had steamy sex with a werewolf, that kind of thing never bodes well.

... What is the best terminology to describe what exactly Lydia is?
Wacko? No, just kidding. Lydia might be a Medium or able to channel spirits? Perhaps her ancestors were Druids, too. Who knows? She's immune to the werewolf bite, that must mean something. Could we have an episode with a Oui-Ja-Board? A really creepy one, please?

... Does Scott need to be more careful about leaving Isaac unattended?
Poor Isaace needs therapy, a werewolf with PTSD is a danger to himself and society. Derek's whole pack should come visit and sprawl on my couch, I gladly would treat them even with their shirts on. Of course, Uncle Peter can come, too.

... How excited are you about the Druid villain now?
He looked like he could use some good acne treatment. Poor Lydia was scared to death, there were so much pimples!
Clearly, the man has got some juice. He might turn into a formidable villain. But he still needs 3 werewolves to sacrifice, doesn't he? (Or her). This is far from over.

And *yay* Allison's Dad is back on track! I hope he kicks Deucalion's ass to hell and back. And now, all there's left is waiting. I wish, I could fast forward to Monday. The wait until the next episode of TW seems endless!
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I love love LOVE Identity. What a great movie.

I thought this episode was very good as well and I just want to say that I agree with you about Isaac. I think he really will be a danger to himself and others. I'm glad that Scott can basically control him. I think that's going to come in handy later when something very serious is going on. (I know we've already seen Scott calm Isaac down twice so far. But I think there might be an even bigger moment coming up later this season).
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FYI, #TeenWolf Revelations will be on immediately after #Currents on Monday night. Trust me – You don’t want to miss this. According to the official Teen Wolf Twitter account.
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2 shows by the sounds of it instead of one.
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Flagging this post was accidental. I have an iPad and my finger accidentally brushed over the flag button. Great post, actually!
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Gee, Thanks! In case I get a slap on the hand, I know that it wasn't really me! *lol* (The same happened to me, too, it's really dangerous moving fingers about with these modern toys! ^^)
But if Derek was the one to come and get me, then by all means, I take full responsability for my bad behavior! :p
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1. when Derek was healing i just thought is was something to do with taking his mind off the fact that he could die just like what happened to Scott in the previous episode when it was all in his mind then when he was shown that the wound was closed he then started to heal. it was all about taking his mind of the fact.
2. the sixth sense but the girl version.
3. obviously since Issac is part of his pack now he has issues
4. i was excited when i heard of the druid being the new villain for season 3 it adds a different side to the myths and legends other than werewolves, but when i seen the face i just thought TVD Silas face that all, i know that the druid is going to be human and not have the face i just thought they could of left it at the figure and not show the face.

my thoughts on this episode
the episode just showed the demons that each character has deep down to me i thought boyd would of died this episode but now ive rethought that i now think he's going to be the first one to go when derek starts to kill off his pack. the issac scenes just brought you to like him even more with what he's been through with his dad. the Ethan's scenes shown a different side to him other than taking order from DW the episode showed the softer side to him with danny and the scene when the head was trying to come out of his body which probably represents his brother.
the Derek scenes to me shouldn't of been in this episode they should of been for the next episode there were no need to speed up the relationship between him and ms blake.
the dynamic duo Lydia and Stiles were on the case which was great but which one is the brain and which one is the bronze? the lydia sixth sense effect shows the may talents of her since she is probably part druid and maybe a SPOILER but what if the dark druid is lydias DAD!!!!!!
scott is turning into a alpha which is not because he thought he killed derek but the facted that Issac and boyd are turning to him than derek.
overall this was a good episode in season 3 and i cant wait for the next episode and sorry for the long rant
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Is it just me, or is Boyd The most likely To die this season? Totally see Derek being the darach (or is it too obvious).
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I keep expecting Boyd to die at any moment. But I'm also expecting Isaac to die later this season as well. Why won't they put him in the opening credits? :(
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He's most likely to die, for sure. They haven't exactly given him much to do, and he's been reduced to plot device at times, or that character who gives an exposition to further a scene or a theory, and then he grunts and disappears. I hate that, because I really do like Boyd, but at this point, he's the most disposable character...along with Cora if you ask me.
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I like Boyd too, but you're so very right. As for Cora, she's so annoying. I just want her to live for Derek's sake but I could do without her.
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I don't think Derek is the Darach, though the names definitely have a suspicious symmetry. I think it's someone Derek knows. As for Boyd, I agree. TV shows (with the exception of Game of Thrones) generally choose the least popular "main characters" for "shocking" deaths. Viewers haven't connected very strongly with him (same with Erica), so I wouldn't be surprised if he died. It's a shame. We're JUST starting to learn more about him.
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Oh snap and now you got me thinking its the teacher!
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It'd be weird if it was Derek, it's not the right mentality, killing from the shadows with mind tricks? and Mr Reckless no plan wolf?
Yeah, I agree Boyd seems doomed. Also you can't lump Game of Thrones with TV-shows seeing as they're basically retelling the books.
Like you said, poor Boyd and he was just starting to be fleshed out. He has spent the majority of the episodes being silent and "strong"
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ZOMG scurriest ep ever! Not Stiles wresting a live handsaw from an alpha werewolf, or Scott wanting to torch himself with the flare that Stiles should've taken with him...but Boyd was outside at night by himself!!! (Heh...we have italics now.) Anything could've happened to that guy out there! And then, he drowned himself and died...without telling us that werewolves can't drown! So scurry. Don't do that again, this show.

I liked this episode. Of course, there was and will always be room for Stupid, but this one was just genuinely fun. A lot of people don't like bottle episodes (filler episodes, w/e), but I usually prefer them. Sure, they don't help the endgame along, but I don't especially look forward to the endgame, as they usually disappoint in any show, not just this one. (I mean, I liked that Jackson ended up a werewolf, but we know where that went..) With episodes like this, we still get the same amount of character progression we'd get in any other episode, and the absurdity of plopping all the kids in that craphole of a suicide motel totally worked for me.

I was genuinely amazed that Scott saw his alpha eyes already...until I realized that the werewolves were hallucinating. Not that Scott hallucinated his eyes, he'll just think he did. That arc's still safely in Nowheresville.

Good on Danny (well, Ethan was, and he's not exactly good yet, but you know what I mean) for finally hooking up on television, but I'm not sure if it further cements Ethan sticking around after the season or if he's doomed now. I know it's MTV, but are we ready for steady gay good guy just hanging around and kicking some ass, or is he just a Glee-style gimmick intended to shock and test the waters before he suddenly changes schools dies? (Heh...we have deleted words now.)

And speaking of good on people, Derek's officially At-Least-Bi. Unlike others, I didn't hate the never-ever-happening idea of Derek and Stiles because I thought Derek was straight, as that had never been proven. Or it had in the way most tween guys go three seasons (and possibly their entire lives) without a drop of interest in the opposite sex. Totally happens. Lives are at risk, and who. has. time?

No, I just thought Stiles was far, far too annoying for a guy with far, far too little of a sense of humor. Opposites attract in the good-bad, smart-dumb, light-dark sort of way, not the Derek-Stiles sort of way. Derek would break him, as likely intentional as unintentional. And this is why (although it was forced like any other soap opera) Derek and Good Witch of the North make a sort of beginning sense. I mean, what sensible young teacher is gonna let gaping fault lines oozing with black blood stop her from getting her swerve on? She knows the show's got a schedule to keep. Who else wishes more people kept that in mind, amirite?

Back to the 'Lydia always has to look' arc, I'm liking her more this year, and she was great this episode, but since she likely doesn't know the show's made her indestructible, it might make sense for someone to teach her a little self-defense down the line. We all know that if her dog tells Lydia not to look under a garbage bin to find the latest horror...she's not to listen to it. And as Price showed very well, her faces this episode were perfect.

So, wait, Scott has friends? The only people Scott's affected by becoming a werewolf is his mom and Stiles, and Stiles is way better off than when he started. Alison's only in town because of the werewolves, and Scott hasn't made any werewolves himself. As he doesn't think he's the leader, and doesn't expect to be, I don't really get why he thinks everything is his fault. Survivor's guilt? Ehh.

One thing I thought was especially silly, was when Lydia and Stiles were trying to save Boyd before he drowned sometime the next morning was when Stiles had to burn him underwater...when Boyd's big ol' Size 16's were dangling out of the tub. If anything, it may've slowed Boyd down if he hadn't turned out to be that grateful. Ehh.

400+ posts and it's only Wednesday morning. Is it Price? Is it the show? Who can say? Not this guy.
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If we go by Party Gassed, the hallucinations from wolfsbane caused some fears to appear to be real; in real life, fears can be based on reality or just be baseless. For this episode, Issac can be said still suffers a lot of trauma from his abuse, as much physical and emotional/mental. The whole Derek throwing a glass at him to mimic his dad (as Jeff Davis has now revealed) probably brings it all back up again, but these are not realistic, up close and present every day possibilities that can happen to him.

In Scott's case, there's a definite sense of responsibility - but it's no different than the line Derek got off in this same episode, "everybody around me ends up hurt." And Derek isn't being poisoned by wolfsbane in this episode.

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Yeah, but Derek is actually responsible for a shitload. Scott never consciously made a pack with three werewolves and then failed teach them how to survive. Erica died as a result of trying to escape from Derek, and Boyd died trying to help Derek. And while Derek's not directly responsible for his actual probably dead sister, or his family probably burning in their house, that would certainly make sense if he felt like he should've protected them better. Scott's people--Isaac included--are still alive.
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I think now, I'm just down to reading your posts just to read them and be entertained. ENTERTAIN ME!! Because I have like nothing else to add. Okay, so maybe I'm really tired too. I'll blame it on that, and not on the fact that I've become a crap antagonist to your fun posts. Absolute crap.

It's Price. It's always Price.

Also, everything goes back to Scott, and thus he feels guilty about everything. While Stiles is better off with the supernatural shenanigans , Scott simply being involved in said supernatural shenanigans has seemingly upped the level of supernatural shenanigans and the number of people effected by it has increased as well, just because he's involved. As opposed to things just staying in and around the burnt out house in the woods.
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I appreciate that, yes, I do. I'm powered by antagonism and/or praise (it's hidden down there in the fine print).

The thing with Scott (and I was gonna let it go with Myri's post down there) is that he might wanna remember that Uncle Hale was out there tearing all kinds of new ones with and without Scott around. Not only that, but Alison was coming to school with or without him, and she'd still be a werewolf hunter...only possibly more dead.

And speaking of more dead...Stiles. C'mon, he would've been in that forest looking for dead things even if Scott had never existed. Now, Werewolf Stiles, that might truly have been awesome...soo...maybe I don't have anything--oh, wait! He might've ended up an early Kanima! That sleepy Cali-burg might've ended up another Tokyo after King Kong and Godzilla duked it out. Yes.

Also, even if Derek had beaten his uncle, he'd still need to make a pack to remain an Alpha (awarded to him by killing Peter), so the only way Isaac, Erica and Boyd would've have been turned is if they'd already been killed. Derek wouldn't go back to being an Omega just because he didn't have Scott to try and make jealous.

I likely wouldn't have been a good Stiles at that moment when Scott needed him. Things like "Suck it up!" "Quit your bitchin'!" "This is why we don't leave you alone to think!" might've been said. However, I would've had the sense to toss that flare a bit further away from the puddle of gasoline.
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Aren't we all?

He's a teenager, unless he's the exception to the rule (*pops collar* God knows I was) he's self involved enough to believe that everything has to do with him.

LOL! so you're *that* friend? Everyone needs that one friend. I'd have Stiles-ed it as best as I could. I kinda do that whole functional mute thing that Boyd does, except I actually give a damn, which half the time he doesn't so Stiles and Boyd combo? Yeah. But I'd have had the brains to toss the flare further away too because...c'mon,common damn sense. *sighs*
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Well, I have to admit that I would've cut Scott a lot of slack this one time, since I would've known he was dosed, but yeah, I'm usually not very sympathetic to deserters.
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Not just teenagers, humans in general tend to guilt-trip unnecessarily. It's a thing
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Scott was the first to bring the supernatural to the high school and so he brought danger to the other students. Like how Peter wanted him to kill Stiles and the other. Plus I think one of the reasons Derek chose to turn Isaac, Boyd and Erica was to confront Scott about his decision not to join his pack. So if Scott wouldn't have turned, none of that would've happened. Something along those lines
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I decided that the Derek & Ms. Blake story line is a joke. Because I refuse to believe that anyone capable of writing a wonderful episode such as this could mean anyhting that happened between them seriously (and I don't just mean this episode). I'm also willing to go with hallucination on Derek's part
On a more positive note, how awesome is Dylan O'Brien? He was incredible during the whole episode but that Scott/Stiles scene was just pure perfection
Lydia is rapidly becoming one of my favorite characters. and her friendship with Allison is lovely to see as well.
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I agree on all counts :D I love Lydia and Allison's friendship. Look how far Lydia's come from season one. She was such a snotty little biatch in season one. Now she's friends with Stiles! (And others as well).

Stiles is my FAVORITE character and he and Scott are so great together. I loved that scene with Stiles and Scott. It was so bittersweet.

And let me tell you that I LOVE your theory about Derek & Ms. Blake. I'd never considered that it could be a hallucination. I'm still thinking that it might be real but it was so disgusting, just plain gross, and it would be awesome if it were a hallucation.
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I love Dylan. Without him this show would be humourless and bland and he really brings it. I kinda like Lydia too because she is so spaced out sometimes and there is potential for a great character and storyline there. Girl got spunk.
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I think Derek's humor and Tyler's delivery is rather underappriciated but Dylan is genius in both comic and dramatic scenes indeed.
Lydia is one fo the very few characters that I prefer in canon while in fanon she generally annoys me.
And I really like her and Stiles as a team. They make great friends.
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Yeah, judging from the first season, I never expected these two to actually become friends without uber-former-crush awkwardness gumming up the works.
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Maybe he's under some kind of druid spell?
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Good point. The stark contrast between the motel moments and the magically healing bow chicka bow wow makes you wonder.
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Is that the love theme from the season 1 finale playing over Stiles stepping into the gasoline with Scott?
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Excellent!!
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I agree....AMAZING find!!!!!
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Is that Derek reaching for his deceased family members? In an internal conflict kind of way..All he wants is his family. Eeeh why does that sounds familiar..? (Klaus?!? No no no)
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Great find, lifeofpi!
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Creepy. Huh, I never noticed it before... so what Peter wants to resurrect the Hale Family?
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... That was so gross. My sister texted me during: "squish squish!" Blech!

... Lydia is Whoopi Goldberg in Ghost: "Scott, you in danger, girl!"

... I think Isaac got sidelined in favor or Boyd and I really wish this was okay, but the actor who plays Boyd is so wooden, that I really missed Isaac. Too little too late on the sister story for Boyd. I've known nothing about you except that you drive a Zamboni. So now I just don't care.

... I think the Druid villain is Emperor Palpatine, so maybe not the best crossover.
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1. There weren't any open wounds, Jennifer's love healed him, there was CGI and everything!
2. Lydia is a banshee; they know when someone is about to die and herald it by screaming or wailing.
3. But if Scott roomed with Isaac who would room with Stiles ... ?
4. SO EXCITED.

Also is anyone else wondering why Cora isn't in school?
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I'm pretty sure the healing cgi thing was after the sex. I could be wrong, but that's how I viewed it
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Cora bores me. I wish Erica wasn't killed off. I know it was due to the actress working on pilot, but oh well :(.
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Actually, that was a bit harsh. I'm more irritated that Erica is gone without much of a reaction from most of the other characters. Hopefully Cora will prove to be a fun character in her own right.
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And also, wasn't her death totally illogical since Deucalion wants Derek to kill his own pack?
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I still think we will get an explanation to why and how Erica died. And I have a feeling it's somehow connected to Cora. We know next to nothing about her character, especially how she spent the years since the fire...
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Did anyone else think that it seemed Boyd's sister just disappeared and they couldn't find her and it was assumed she was dead? And did that lead anyone else to think....how old was Motorcycle Girl? And then the next thought, well, Boyd is likely not going to make it through the season because now not only have the Alphas killed his only friend/girlfriend, tried to make him into a killer, but may have killed his sister when she was that close to reuniting with him (this whole theory does beg the question why she wouldn't have saved Boyd versus Isaac, unless Isaac was just held in that little closet that Alison hid in).
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I'm glad you said this. When I was watching the episode with my husband and they showed the face in the ice, we thought it was that motorcycle girl from the season premiere. But I don't think it really would add up. Why would his sister wait so long to reappear? But good theory :D I actually wish this was true.
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I wondered about that as well. I felt like there had to be some reason that they gave us this bit of Boyd backstory, because they sure as hell never bothered to do it before. I mean it has to mean something down the road right? I thought of motorcycle girl too, because I was so unconvinced in the first episode when she swooped in like some kickass avenging angel to rescue Isaac, and she was so intent on saving them all. She knew who they all were, she knew some of everything, like she had a vested interest in how things would turn out and protecting them all, and then she was killed in the end? Like I was really unconvinced that she was dead, I thought maybe she turned into a werewolf herself or something, because it made no sense to have her come in that way and not serve a purpose beyond that one episode. I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who thought that too. Plus, the girl Boyd was seeing seemed so much older than I would have imagined if he was this young kid when it happened...I don't know. Maybe my interest in motorcycle girl is clouding my judgment. I found her mysterious stranger thing so interesting and then it was just over. I was about as intrigued with "the girl" as Isaac was.
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A few of the comments mentioned his sister was kidnapped (while on the ice rink, we gather now). Could be by something supernatural. Are we sure she's dead? She might make an appearance at a certain point. Anyway, I guess poor Boyd used to work there in the hope he'd find a clue or she would just show up one day. What else could he do than stick around the place he last saw her? Hope can be so sad
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That just made me very sad (Boyd working at the ice rink) I for some reason just thought they were at a pond and she possibly fell in. But now that you put it at that ice rink, I am a little more confident in who Motorcycle Girl is and why the show wouldn't give her a name. I am not 100% she is actually dead basically for a very lazy reason, the Alphas don't seem too into body disposal, they just shoved Erica into a closet for a long time. I can't see that they likely cleaned up the locker room and removed the body. I am guessing for whatever reason Lydia finds herself in the boy's locker room and the girl appears to her.
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I also can't fully believe that she is dead. I think they beat her up good and then healed her up good. We shall see (or not)
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I think there was a reason they didn't actually show Motorcycle girl dying or being dead. Not that dying means a lot in this show anyways ;) (not complaining). And she showed some super strength dragging Isaac, fighting the Alphas, why not impressive healing powers?

I also think they are not quite done with that character and I would love to see her again and let her shed some light on what's going on. I don't believe it would be just about the Alpha pack, more likely about the Darach threat.
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I'm not sure it's the icerink - the audio flashback on the radio doesn't specify. It's just a theory. It could still be some pond.

I don't think the radio mentions her drowning, but since Boyd then tries to drown himself a lot of ppl deduce it that way, but I don't think that makes sense, because why would little brother Boyd be asked all these questions by a detective.
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Teen Wolf knows how to do filler episodes right. Usually filler episodes are whatever, and if I find myself rewatching a series I might skip over a filler episode, or it'd be the episode where I say "I've watched enough for today, time for bed" But this episode is just nice on it's own.

I too wish they hadn't done the explanation at the end either. I'd be fine with the motel somehow just having a really bad effect and making people want to kill each other. If they wanted to link the Druid to it they could have made it where all the other motels where having weird problems, leaving them to that motel.

Okay what exactly was going to happen to Isaac in his suicide? I mean he was hiding under the bed, not locking himself where lack of air would result in death. Or I guess he was just in a trance and the 3 the the number on the wall was referring to Scott, Ethan, and Boyd? But it's nice that he got a little break, kinda. I do hope Stiles links this back so that everyone can agree that they all have a mutual enemy.

I don't care for the teacher, but I hope she doesn't get too much screen time lol but if it helps with Derek being shirtless I guess I can't complain. And seeing how Derek was the first time she saw him, I don't think so. I mean who would really turn Derek down? Even with slashes across his abs they still looked good. ANd he was in the process of healing. Also I've had sex initiated after a rough night where I was in a fight where some blood was spilled...lol
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I actually think Isaac ironically enough was strong enough to fight off his suicide attempt because of his long history of abuse. He's used to surviving or postponing what could be the inevitable? I think the wolfsbane was giving him all those flashbacks but instead of allowing them to completely take over he resorted to something he grew up doing, he hid and fought it off. I think he was meant to suffocate himself somehow.

Somehow your possible story sounds a little bit more interesting than black blood oozing out of a werewolf! LOL!
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I agree, overall the horror scenes were really cool and the like one or two plot moving things were kind of interesting (seriously, is it Lord Voldemort?) but the more important things were kind of fully reestablishing the teams for the upcoming rundown of the episodes. Like the whole Scott thing, Alison was able to talk to him, but Stiles was able to reach him, and when Scott started talking about who he was before, Alison was sort of faded into the background because she never knew him before he was a werewolf and ultimately, Lydia saves all their butts.
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1. Definitely.
2. I think she's a Necromancer. But I have to second the person who said 'Awesome'.
3. Another definitely. While they've thrown around a couple of hierarchy terms like 'Alpha' and 'Omega' they haven't mentioned others. Scott is a Beta with the possibilities of becoming an Alpha - back in Season 1 he'd already started forming a strong group: he, Stiles, Allison, Lydia and Jackson.
Isaac on the other hand is a Gamma. He's a good foot soldier. He'll do what he's told (but a second-in-command has to be able to second-guess orders and give advice.) He's also very high maintenence. I like that because it is a real trait that non-dominant canines have.
4. I'd like if the Druid became a more dominant threat.
What I think happened in the episode. The dangerous Suicide-Motel is something that the Druid knew about. The Druid manipulated Coach into delivering the kids to this motel and primed the werewolves to be more vunerable with the wolfsbane. The motel itself
decided how many were going to be driven to suicide. Didn't anyone else notice that the scene where Isaac is changing the channels has the number go from 198 to 201?
5. I loved the Danny/Ethan scene. I want Danny to be brought into the main story.
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hahaha... high maintenance canine... lmao... roflmao. (>_<);
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And we see Isaac as a less-than-completely effective watchdog in the next episode.
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"Dang, WHAT is gonna be going down, Ethan?" Too easy.
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1, in this case yes, it would be a deal breaker. Derek is gorgeous and I am never going to deny that but Blake has only met him three times now and for two of those he has been covered in blood. I'm sorry but my alarm bells would be ringing, probably saying 'serial killer' at the same time.

2, I think that Lydia is turning into a Banshee, and that she will be crucial in defeating the druid (druidess). I believe that it was no coincidence that she alone saw the face in the fire.

3, Scotty definitely needs to be more careful in looking after our favourite puppy. Although I did not like the sinister face he pulled while flicking through TV channels. Part of me suspects that it was Isaac that went downstairs and changed the numbers in the office and that he was under the influence of someone else.

4, I am very excited now about just exactly who the druid or druides is. I've believed it was Blake right from the off and I have not changed my mind on that. She is the druidess and I think her battle will be with the Duke, I'm just not certain why yet. Although I did pick up on more than one Romeo and Juliet reference in the episode. Perhaps she is a lover scorned?
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1. Don't you think she slept with Derek because he saved her life too? ..... hmmmmm Derek ;)
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But did he save her life? Why was she in the school in the middle of the night? Could she just be a really dedicated school teacher? Maybe, but I doubt it. I know I am being cynical, but I just don't buy it. I just get the feeling she is up to no good and Derek is going to get hurt, again.

My other thought on Blake is that she is part of the Alpha pack and is using subterfuge to manipulate him. We know that they can hide their scent, this was just something that popped into my head recently.
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I've had some suspicions about her from the start as well. She's DEFINITELY up to something
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Yeah, who is so dedicated to be in school so close to sun up. It's not like it was 8 or 9 or even 10 pm. She's already down there and then they trap Boyd & Cora and it's less than one hour (ok, be kind and say two hours) till sun-up. That's an absurd time lime.

Unless she wants privacy and no prying eyes.
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This episode was CRAZY in a good way.Loved Stiles and Lydia working together and the whole exchange between Scott and Stiles.The way Boyd tried to kill himself was so hilariously complicated.And this season is getting better with every episode.
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it wasn't really scary but the bromance was great! And i like the twins! Pet peeve: Boyd's feet were out of the water... why not just hold sth hot against a part of his body which is NOT under water?
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That's what I was thinking, but when I went back and watched the episode I realized that Stiles did briefly look at Boyd's feet, I think that he just decided to go for more gusto. And even though they should have realized that his feet were indeed above water when they first go in there they still would have needed the flares from the bus.
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I know but if there was something hot nearby it would have saved time, the flares were needed because of the water-issue.
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I thought that too.
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Yeah, that was an epic facepalm moment from two otherwise intelligent teens.
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Well, as I mentioned in the earlier thread, boinking a dying person is just plain stupid. Let's assume she is a bit kinky, it's still not a SAFE thing to do. She'd do well to keep him hidrated, not sweat up and move around.
Sorry, that's just no...
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Or maybe it's some conspiracy to make hetro sex look disgusting while the gay sex seem good? The gay agenda is upon us!
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Anyhow... I forgot to mention in the earlier thread I find that Boyd thinking about his sister is a bit odd - I'd expect him to see Erika. Heck, I expect ANYONE to mention Erika. Didn't she have any parents? Nobody cared that she was missing? She was the "hot stuff" in the school last season. Do people even know she is dead? Or do they think she is still missing but don't care?

Also, there were 4 werewolves. Not 3, is it okay for druid to do an overkill?
Well, I suppose Issac didn't try to kill himself (heck, why didn't they just leave him under the bed?) Now that I ponder it... How did the druid even know that they would kill themselves, heck, they could have all just gotten random visions like Issac and run off.

Heck, do we even know that the druid was involved in this ep and not the motel? I mean since none of them died you'd expect him to try again.

And how did Papa Gerarad even knew about his uncle? He was not at the motel and we didn't see him or Allison find out about the flashback.

Is having a flashback in the episode and excuse for a character to know something?


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Regarding the explanation and the whistle, after watching again (via the recap) I have to toss out the possibility that Lydia is behind it (knowingly or not) and that she faked the whistle in the end. I doubt it, but it's possible.
And it would make it so much better.
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Everyone's thinking the druid wanted three dead werewolves because Stiles assumed something like that, but Stiles's been wrong before when he assumed only virgins were being killed off. Maybe the druid just wanted to get them out of the way. Maybe they are the only real threat to the darach...
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Regarding Erica: I kind of expected her too, but the actress left the show so they probably couldn't do it at that point. I actually really liked their choice with the sister though, gave Boyd some character development.
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I'm having a hard time connecting with Boyd so he needs some kind of development stat!!!
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I mark this as a pivotal episode of Teen Wolfe, it took some time, but the show grew up. Although it was great fun to watch it, I think they finally added the much needed deeper layer to the show.
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As much as I love this show (Its my guiltiest pleasure, I lie to ppl and tell them I watch it for Crystal Reed which is kinda true), I have a few tiny tiny problems (if anyone already mentioned these, sorry):

1) If the werewolves actions were dictated by wolfsbane, then why did Alexander Argent commit suicide? He didn't have any wolfsbane in him.

2) Seriously , healing sex?! C'mon writers, you can do better

3) Goddammit, Alison.. Kiss Scott already!! You know you want it!

4) If Argents commit suicide after becoming werewolves, then I would have a serious problem with Papa Argent using Alexander's death as impetus to go after Deukalion (spelling?). That whole "we only hunt those who hunt us" motto doesn't work if you go up and blow your face off because of some perceived notion of the 'evil' of lycanthropy. That better not happen.
5) Price, I think Boyd the safe on top of him (or rather, the Darach made him do that) so that another person couldn't prevent him from suicide. Then again, you probably were joking. I require that your jokes be thought-out and accurate, sir!
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I ostensibly watch for CR, too.

1. Alexander Argent definitely killed himself because he was going to turn (see: Mama Argent last season).

2. Agreed.

3. I KNOW RIGHT?!

4. Well, I think the point might be that perhaps if one gets attacked by a werewolf but not bitten, then you'd still chase it. And didn't grandpa Argent talk about retribution versus vengeance last season? He may have just been feeding BS to Allison, but it might have had some truth buried in it.

5. That's what I thought, too.
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I find both of your taste questionable. Holland Roden by a mile.
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Holland Roden is also quite the looker, but when Crystal Reed smiles, it's all over. Curtain. Go home. The end.
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1. Wasn't Alexander Argent years ago in the 70s? It was a flashback and Chris Argent then found out that the "demon wolf" was the wolf who bit Alexander..... this is what we're thinking is going to get Chris back in the game this season.... :)
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