Episode guide lacking correct air dates (Updated 8/16/2009)

  • Avatar of SirStack

    SirStack

    [1]Dec 20, 2006
    • member since: 04/23/05
    • level: 52
    • rank: Guzzlefish
    • posts: 1,213

    The episode guide isn't using the correct air dates or information for many of the episodes. The TMNT official site isn't the end-all, be-all, since it merely lists episodes in the production order with no air date info. Here's a list I personally can vouch for, one that has been researched via numerous sources (such as the fact I WATCHED the show way back when):

    ***Total episode amount

    ��������***Airing order in seasonal format.

    ��������������� ******Internal production numbers

    Season 1: Syndication, promotional special week-long mini-series.

    001_101_001: "Turtle Tracks" 12/28/87
    002_102_002: "Enter the Shredder" 12/29/87
    003_103_003: "A Thing About Rats" 12/30/87
    004_104_004: "Hot Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X" 12/31/87
    005_105_005: "Shreddered & Splintered" 1/1/88

    Season 2: Syndication, weekends.
    006_201_8910-001: "Return of the Shredder" 10/1/88
    007_202_8910-002: "The Incredible Shrinking Turtles" (1) 10/8/88
    008_203_8910-003: "It Came from Beneath the Sewers" (2) 10/15/88
    009_204_8910-004: "The Mean Machines" (3) 10/22/88
    010_205_8910-005: "Curse of the Evil Eye" (4) 10/29/88
    011_206_8910-006: "Case of the Killer Pizzas" 11/5/88
    012_207_8910-007: "Enter: the Fly" 11/12/88
    013_208_8910-008: "Invasion of the Punk Frogs" 11/19/88
    014_212_8910-009: "Splinter No More" 12/17/88
    015_211_8910-010: "New York's Shiniest" 12/10/88
    016_213_8910-011: "Teenagers from Dimension X" 12/24/88
    017_209_8910-012: "The Catwoman from Channel Six" 12/26/88
    018_210_8910-013: "Return of the Technodrome" 12/3/88

    Season 3: Syndication, Monday through Friday (strip).
    019_301_9059-001: "Beneath the Streets" 9/25/89
    020_335_9059-002: "April's Fool (April Foolish)" 12/1/89
    021_302_9059-003: "Sky Turtles" 9/26/89
    022_306_9059-004: "Cowabunga Shredhead" 10/2/89
    023_326_9059-005: "Invasion of the Turtle Snatchers" 11/14/89
    024_313_9059-006: "The Old Switcheroo" 10/11/89
    025_303_9059-007: "Turtles on Trial" 9/27/89
    026_304_9059-008: "Attack of the 50-Foot Irma" 9/28/89
    027_305_9059-009: "The Maltese Hamster" 9/29/89
    028_307_9059-010: "The Fifth Turtle" 10/3/89
    029_315_9059-011: "Camera Bugged" 10/13/89
    030_308_9059-012: "The Ninja Sword of Nowhere" 10/4/89
    031_336_9059-013: "Green with Jealousy" 12/4/89
    032_319_9059-014: "Take Me to Your Leader" 11/2/89
    033_312_9059-015: "Enter the Rat King" 10/10/89
    034_317_9059-016: "Turtles at the Earth's Core" 10/31/89
    035_310_9059-017: "Burne's Blues" 10/6/89
    036_309_9059-018: "20,000 Leaks Under the City" 10/5/89
    037_318_9059-019: "Beware the Lotus" 11/1/89
    038_323_9059-020: "Leatherhead: Terror of the Swamp" 11/9/89
    039_311_9059-021: "Super Bebop & Mighty Rocksteady" 10/9/89
    040_320_9059-022: "Blast from the Past" 11/3/89
    041_314_9059-023: "Attack of the Big MACC" 10/12/89
    042_329_9059-024: "The Turtle Terminator" 11/17/89
    043_345_9059-025: "The Grybyx" 5/14/90
    044_327_9059-026: "Mutagen Monster" 11/15/89
    045_321_9059-027: "Casey Jones - Outlaw Hero" 11/7/89
    046_340_9059-028: "Michaelangelo's Birthday" 2/2/90
    047_322_9059-029: "Turtles, Turtles Everywhere" 11/8/89
    048_331_9059-030: "Return of the Fly" 11/22/89
    049_333_9059-031: "The Making of Metalhead" 11/27/89
    050_316_9059-032: "The Four Musketurtles" 10/30/89
    051_325_9059-033: "Usagi Yojimbo" 11/13/89
    052_328_9059-034: "Shredderville" 11/15/89
    053_324_9059-035: "Corporate Raiders from Dimension X" 11/10/89
    054_337_9059-036: "Usagi, Come Home" 12/5/89
    055_334_9059-037: "Leatherhead Meets the Rat King" 11/29/89
    056_330_9059-038: "Case of the Hot Kimono" 11/20/89
    057_341_9059-039: "Pizza by the Shred" 2/6/90
    058_332_9059-040: "Bye, Bye Fly" 11/24/89
    059_346_9059-041: "The Gang's All Here" 5/16/90
    060_347_9059-042: "The Missing Map" 7/24/90
    061_339_9059-043: "The Great Boldini" 12/8/89
    062_338_9059-044: "Mr. Ogg Goes to Town" 12/7/89
    063_342_9059-045: "The Big Rip-Off" (1) 2/7/90
    064_343_9059-046: "The Big Break-In" (2) 2/8/90
    065_344_9059-047: "The Big Blowout" (3) 2/9/90

    Season 4A: Syndication, Monday through Friday.
    066_401_9060-066: "Plan Six from Outer Space"
    080_402_9060-067: "Turtles of the Jungle"
    081_403_9060-068: "Michaelangelo Toys Around"
    082_404_9060-069: "Peking Turtle"
    083_405_9060-070: "Shredder's Mom"
    084_406_9060-071: "Four Turtles and a Baby"
    085_407_9060-072: "Turtlemaniac"
    086_409_9060-073: "Planet of the Turtles"
    087_410_9060-074: "Name That Toon"
    088_411_9060-075: "Menace, Maestro, Please"
    089_414_9060-076: "The Turtles and the Hare" (1)
    090_415_9060-077: "Once Upon a Time Machine" (2)
    091_408_9060-078: "Rondo in New York"
    092_412_9060-079: "Superhero for a Day"
    093_413_9060-080: "Back to the Egg"

    Season 4B: International syndication (eventually aired in the US during season 7, those dates�reflected)

    067_701_9059-051: "Tower of Power" 9/18/93
    068_702_9059-052: "Rust Never Sleeps" 9/18/93
    069_703_9059-053: "A Real Snow Job" 9/25/93
    070_704_9059-054: "Venice on the Half Shell" 9/25/93
    071_705_9059-055: "Artless" 10/2/93
    072_709_9059-056: "The Lost Queen of Atlantis" 10/16/93
    073_707_9059-057: "The Irish Jig Is Up" 10/9/93
    074_708_9059-058: "Shredder's New Sword" 10/9/93
    075_706_9059-059: "Ring of Fire" 10/2/93
    076_710_9059-060: "Turtles on the Orient Express" 10/16/93
    077_711_9059-061: "April Gets in Dutch" 10/23/93
    078_712_9059-062: "Northern Lights Out" 10/23/93
    079_713_9059-063: "Elementary, My Dear Tortoise" 10/30/93

    Season 4CBS: Saturday Mornings on CBS affiliates only (these episode did not air in syndication until the later USA Cartoon Express run, they were exclusive to CBS and did NOT premiere daily as the guide currently claims. Two new episodes aired each week.)
    094_400_6101-0000: "Planet of the Turtleoids" (1) 9/7/90 (Prime Time 1-hour special, eventually aired as two single episodes)
    095_400_6101-0000: "Planet of the Turtleoids" (2) 9/7/90 (Prime Time 1-hour special, eventually aired as two single episodes)
    096_416_9061-001: "The Dimension X Story" 9/8/90
    097_418_9061-002: "Son of the Return of the Fly II" 9/15/90
    098_426_9061-003: "The Big Zipp Attack" 10/20/90
    099_428_9061-004: "Farewell, Lotus Blossom" 10/27/90
    100_434_9061-005: "The Big Cufflink Caper!" 11/17/90
    101_430_9061-006: "The Adventures of Rhino-Man" 11/3/90
    102_424_9061-007: "Were-Rats from Channel 6" 10/13/90
    103_420_9061-008: "Bebop and Rocksteady Conquer the Universe" 9/22/90
    104_422_9061-009: "Slash, the Evil Turtle from Dimension X" 9/29/90
    105_429_9061-010: "Rebel Without a Fin" 10/27/90
    106_432_9061-011: "Poor Little Rich Turtle" 11/10/90
    107_440_9061-012: "The Foot Soldiers Are Revolting" 12/8/90
    108_439_9061-013: "The Big Bug Blunder" 12/1/90
    109_417_9061-014: "Donatello's Degree" 9/8/90
    110_421_9061-015: "Raphael Meets His Match" 9/22/90
    111_419_9061-016: "Raphael Knocks 'Em Dead" 9/15/90
    112_427_9061-017: "Donatello Makes Time" 10/20/90
    113_423_9061-018: "Leonardo Lightens Up" 9/29/90
    114_425_9061-019: "Funny, They Shrunk Michaelangelo" 10/13/90
    115_431_9061-020: "Michaelangelo Meets Bugman" 11/3/90
    116_435_9061-021: "Leonardo Versus Tempestra" 11/17/90
    117_433_9061-022: "What's Michaelangelo Good For?" 11/10/90
    118_438_9061-023: "Beyond the Donatello Nebula" 12/1/90
    119_441_9061-024: "Unidentified Flying Leonardo" 12/8/90
    120_437_9061-025: "Raphael Drives 'Em Wild" 11/24/90
    121_436_9061-026: "Splinter Vanishes" 11/24/90

    Season 5: CBS Saturdays (note: "A" reflected if it was the first in the hour to air, and "B" for the second)
    122_504_9062-001B: "Donatello's Badd Time" 9/21/91
    123_510_9062-003B: "Donatello's Duplicate" 10/19/91
    124_501_9062-004A: "My Brother, the Bad Guy" 9/14/91
    125_503_9062-002A: "Enter Mutagen Man" 9/21/91
    126_507_9062-005A: "Napoleon Bonafrog: Colossus of the Swamps" 10/5/91
    127_502_9062-006B: "Michaelangelo Meets Mondo Gecko" 9/14/91
    128_505_9062-007B: "Michaelangelo Meets Bugman Again" 9/28/91
    129_512_9062-008B: "Leonardo Cuts Loose" 10/26/91
    130_506_9062-009A: "Muckman Messes Up" 9/28/91
    131_511_9062-010A: "The Ice Creature Cometh" 10/26/91
    132_516_9062-011A: "Zach and the Alien Invaders" 11/9/91
    133_508_9062-012B: "Raphael vs. the Volcano" 10/5/91
    134_514_9062-013B: "Turtle of a Thousand Faces" 11/2/91
    135_513_9062-014A: "Pirate Radio" 11/2/91
    136_509_9062-015A: "Landlord of the Flies" 10/19/91
    137_515_9062-016B: "Leonardo, the Renaissance Turtle" 11/9/91
    138_517_9062-017A: "Welcome Back, Polarisoids" 11/16/91
    139_518_9062-018B: "Michelangelo, the Sacred Turtle" 11/16/91

    Season 6: CBS Saturdays
    140_601_9062-9201: "Rock Around the Block" 9/19/92
    141_603_9062-9202: "Krangenstein Lives" 9/26/92
    142_605_9062-9203: "Super Irma" 10/3/92
    143_611_9062-9204: "Adventures in Turtle Sitting" 10/24/92
    144_609_9062-9205: "The Sword of Yurikawa" 10/17/92
    145_604_9062-9206: "Return of the Turtleoids" 9/26/92
    146_607_9062-9207: "Shreeka's Revenge" 10/10/92
    147_606_9062-9208: "Too Hot to Handle" 10/3/92
    148_610_9062-9209: "Nightmare in the Lair" 10/17/92
    149_612_9062-9210: "Phantom of the Sewers" 10/24/92
    150_608_9062-9211: "Donatello Trashes Slash" 10/10/92
    151_616_9062-9212: "Sleuth on the Loose" 11/7/92
    152_614_9062-9213: "Polly Wanna Pizza" 10/31/92
    153_602_9062-9214: "Leonardo Is Missing" 9/19/92
    154_615_9062-9215: "Mr. Nice Guy" 11/7/92
    155_613_9062-9216: "Snakes Alive!" 10/31/92

    Season 7: CBS Saturdays (note: the International Season 4B finally aired in the US alongside many of these episodes)
    156_717_9062-9301: "Convicts from Dimension X" 11/13/93
    157_715_9062-9302: "The Starchild" 11/6/93
    158_716_9062-9303: "The Legend of Koji" 11/6/93
    159_714_9062-9304: "Night of the Dark Turtle" 10/30/93
    160_718_9062-9305: "White Belt, Black Heart" 11/13/93
    161_720_9062-9306: "Attack of the Neutrinos" 11/20/93
    162_721_9062-9307: "Escape from the Planet of the Turtleoids" 11/27/93
    163_719_9062-9308: "Night of the Rogues" 11/20/93
    164_722_9062-9309: "Revenge of the Fly" 11/27/93
    165_724_9062-9310: "Dirk Savage: Mutant Hunter" 12/4/93
    166_726_9062-9311: "Combat Land" 12/11/93
    167_723_9062-9313: "Atlantis Awakes" 12/4/93
    168_725_9062-9314: "Invasion of the Krangazoids" 12/11/93
    169_727_9062-9312: "Shredder Triumphant" 12/18/93

    Season 8: CBS Saturdays
    170_801_9062-9401: "Get Shredder!" 9/17/94
    171_802_9062-9402: "Wrath of the Rat King" 9/24/94
    172_807_9062-9403: "Cyber Turtles" 10/29/94
    173_803_9062-9404: "State of Shock" 10/1/94
    174_804_9062-9405: "Cry HAVOC!" (1) 10/8/94
    175_805_9062-9406: "HAVOC in the Streets" (2) 10/15/94
    176_806_9062-9407: "Enter: Krakus" 10/22/94
    177_808_9062-9408: "Turtle Trek" 11/5/94

    Season 9: CBS Saturdays
    178_901_9062-9501: "The Unknown Ninja" 9/16/95
    179_902_9062-9502: "Dregg of the Earth" 9/23/95
    180_903_9062-9503: "The Wrath of Medusa" 9/30/95
    181_904_9062-9504: "The Next Mutation" 10/7/95
    182_905_9062-9505: "The Showdown" 10/14/95
    183_906_9062-9506: "Split-Second" 10/21/95
    184_907_9062-9507: "Carter, the Enforcer" 10/28/95
    185_908_9062-9508: "Doomquest" 11/4/95

    Season 10: CBS Saturdays
    186_1001_9062-9601: "The Return of Dregg" 9/16/96
    187_1002_9062-9602: "The Beginning of the End" 9/23/96
    188_1003_9062-9603: "The Power of Three" (1) 9/30/96
    189_1004_9062-9604: "A Turtle in Time" (2) 10/7/96
    190_1005_9062-9605: "Turtles to the Second Power" (3) 10/14/96
    191_1006_9062-9606: "Mobster from Dimension X" 10/21/96
    192_1007_9062-9607: "The Day the Earth Disappeared" 10/28/96
    193_1008_9062-9608: "Divide and Conquer" 11/4/96

    Edited on 08/16/2009 6:44pm
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of tone-master21

    tone-master21

    [2]Dec 20, 2006
    • member since: 06/07/05
    • level: 40
    • rank: Bewitched
    • posts: 1,320
    I have also read and heard that the episode list and air dates that you list are correct.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of RaijinPaladinix

    RaijinPaladinix

    [3]Dec 28, 2006
    • member since: 03/25/06
    • level: 52
    • rank: Guzzlefish
    • posts: 3,813
    Your Season 10 airdates are all Mondays, which must be an error on your part.  The current airdates are all Saturdays, which I am keeping since the episodes aired on Saturdays.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of RaijinPaladinix

    RaijinPaladinix

    [4]Jan 1, 2007
    • member since: 03/25/06
    • level: 52
    • rank: Guzzlefish
    • posts: 3,813
    I am currently putting in this information, I should have it all up in a couple days. It takes a while for the episode list to update, it is just now permanently showing the correct info for Season 3, which I did a week ago. So the episodes' numbers and airdates will change while I fix this.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of bebop345

    bebop345

    [5]Jan 4, 2007
    • member since: 06/09/06
    • level: 37
    • rank: Cylon
    • posts: 221
    quite a list indeed, where did you find all this out besides tv.com?
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of RaijinPaladinix

    RaijinPaladinix

    [6]Apr 22, 2007
    • member since: 03/25/06
    • level: 52
    • rank: Guzzlefish
    • posts: 3,813
    Well, now I have to fix the casts throughout several episodes. There's no reason for Greg Berg to be a main star outside Season 3. He's currently on most Dregg episodes. Why, I don't know.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of ResidentEvil75

    ResidentEvil75

    [7]Jan 20, 2008
    • member since: 04/10/04
    • level: 11
    • rank: Red Shirted Lt.
    • posts: 27
    Didn't you also noticed that the 1991 season DVD set is not in the correct order either? I noticed it when I was looking at the episodes on the TV and on my downloaded list, and saw a mixing of episodes that weren't in a correct order.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of SirStack

    SirStack

    [8]Apr 28, 2009
    • member since: 04/23/05
    • level: 52
    • rank: Guzzlefish
    • posts: 1,213
    It's taken awhile, but I've been proven wrong on two aspects of this list.

    I've finally hunted down copies of "TV Guide" from 9/8-9/14/90 and 8/31/-9/7/91. In the 9/8-14/90 edition, it turns out that the prime time episode I recalled was not in fact "Planet of the Turtleoids". It was instead the premiere of "The Big Cufflink Caper!" This aired on September 14, 1990, at 8pm eastern, right before the premiere of "Tiny Toon Adventures". It was a half-hour slot, no way they could've ran the hour long special anyway. According to my research, there was no prime airing on 9/7/90, despite TMNT debuting on CBS Saturday mornings on 9/8/90.

    In the TV Guide from 8/31-9/7/91, confirms that "Planet of the Turtleoids" did indeed premiere as a one-hour special in prime time, but on August 31, 1991. I don't know why the hell I mixed up the prime airings, but I did. I'm sorry, I was wrong! I've since gone back into Google newsgroup archives to try to find what information led me to believe Turtleoids aired a year earlier, and I've not found anything. All I did find was ratings reports which confirmed no TMNT aired in prime on 9/7/90.

    Anyway, I'll post some scans later of the TV Guide listings to back this up.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of pferreira86

    pferreira86

    [9]May 1, 2009
    • member since: 03/17/06
    • level: 18
    • rank: Land Shark
    • posts: 1,491

    Quite a few sources list Planet of the Turtleoids as being part of Season 5. I actually do remember it being part of this season for continuity reasons. I'm not sure why people think it's part of Season 4.

    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of RaijinPaladinix

    RaijinPaladinix

    [10]Aug 16, 2009
    • member since: 03/25/06
    • level: 52
    • rank: Guzzlefish
    • posts: 3,813

    Sorry, guys, for being nonresponsive for a while. But, it has been brought to my attention by higher-ups that everything should be listed by original airdate.

    This is not only for the sake of simplicity and consistency with other guides on the site that are syndicated, I guess, but with the site's "new look", I soon noticed that the guides automatically listed everything by airdate order, regardless of lifetime episode number. This wasn't the issue before last fall, as it was simple to easily list the syndicated seasons by production code order for consistencies.

    But, now, everything will be listed by airdate order. There are some things I should note.

    1.) Planet of the Turtleoids I put in Season 5 as the season premiere (simply because of airdate ordering).

    2.) Even if some Season 2 and 3 episodes (syndicated) aired after Return of the Technodrome and The Big Blow Out, respectively, all of us know that those episodes belong as the last episodes of those seasons. I mean, come on. Seriously.

    3.) The DVD order of the episodes is probably the best way to watch them. When these were syndicated onto USA's Cartoon Express, I imagine this is how they were ran. But with different networks jumping all over the place when this was syndicated back in 1989, it was first-come, first-serve to which episodes aired first. Everyone watched these episodes at different times, probably, considering what network they viewed.

    Edited on 08/16/2009 6:45pm
    Edited 2 total times.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of pferreira86

    pferreira86

    [11]Aug 20, 2009
    • member since: 03/17/06
    • level: 18
    • rank: Land Shark
    • posts: 1,491
    I think it would be nice to get some actual official continuity from David Wise or Peter Laird.
    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.
  • Avatar of NiallB31

    NiallB31

    [12]Sep 24, 2011
    • member since: 12/13/08
    • level: 8
    • rank: Super-Friend
    • posts: 458

    I know. Every episode list I have seen lists different air Dates for certain episodes. It is really annoying.

    You must be registered and logged in to post a message.