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Episode Discussion: Keylela 2x07 (spoilers)

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    TesserT

    [1]May 6, 2012
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    Please use this thread to discuss Sunday's episode Keylela (May 6). Enjoy!
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    ummhaniyyah

    [2]May 9, 2012
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    I was really disturbed by this episode. I really don't want Holder to be dead but I fear that he is (judging from the promo).


    Linden taking Jack was really stupid. Their hotel room wasn't that bad - kind of just what you expect from someone who maybe isn't neat living out of suitcases and boxes. She did reserve a kitchenette and she and Jack had been grocery shopping. A thirteen year old home alone for several hours is hardly neglect -- though she is definitely not mother of the year.


    There'll be no way to explain away skipping out on Child Protective Services with her son.


    I found it funny that Holder is actually a bit of a foodie. At first I thought he was opening a pizza in his kitchen but he was actually rolling sushi. And overall his apartment with its books and zen touches was a surprise. He lives a better and more settled home life than Linden does.


    I don't get the Chief's heavy-handedness -- unless, I suppose we are to believe that she rules the entire reservation with an iron hand. Kind of stupid on her part to kill a police officer, even a "foreign" one. He hadn't gotten anywhere close to discovering any of their secrets.

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    AwaiSSiawa

    [3]May 9, 2012
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    Ditto, Holder is murdered and we lose the best character on the show.


    I thought the whole Child Services plot was flawed; Jack's father abandoned them years ago and all of a sudden he's concerned about Jack's safety? Seems pretty odd.


    Maybe Holder's death will give Linden the kickstart she needs to finally get going. Maybe the whole show could speed itself up.

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    SaradaChaudhu

    [4]Jun 15, 2012
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    So does this mean that it's legal for Native Americans to beat up/kill US cops and not get prosecuted? Maybe a dumb question, but am watching in the UK and don't know the ins and outs of the jurisdiction, and they said that Holder doesn't have any authority on the reservation...

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    TesserT

    [5]Jun 28, 2012
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    @SaradaChaudhu: American Indian tribes are sovereign nations, so they have their own sets of laws. Juggling the jurisdictions between federal, state and tribal levels can be difficult. Tribal immunity generally extends to agencies of the tribe such as tribal casinos and other business enterprises.

    That said, Holder was a Seattle detective. State, county and city officials have no authority on tribal lands/casinos. Tribal law rules although tribal courts have limited powers.

    To answer your question, no, it isn't legal for Native Americans to beat up/kill US cops. But on tribal lands US law isn't in play - tribal law is. Remember Holder is trespassing so a nice neat story could be put together by Kulamish Nation Chief Nicole Jackson - who is the law on casino land.

    Any more questions just PM me & I can provide some links for more info.
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