The L Word

Season 2 Episode 11

Loud & Proud

Aired Sunday 9:00 PM May 01, 2005 on Showtime
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Episode Summary

Dana is stunned when she learns a big secret about her brother, Howie, at Gay Pride 2005. Mark tries to make amends with Jenny and Shane, Kit and Bette learn that their father, Melvin, is refusing treatment for his illness, and a shocking memory about Jenny's childhood is revealed.moreless

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  • The episode is about how the girls spend the gay pride day. Alice tells Dana she loves her, but she's worried because she didn't say anything back. Helena goes for the fist time to that celebration.moreless

    This is a great episode, in my opinion. It is funny and it's interesting. The relationship of Dana and Alice gets more serious, despite it doesn't seem like Dana loves Alice as much as she loves her. But, after all, this is one of my favourites episodes in this series.
Ossie Davis

Ossie Davis

Melvin Porter

Guest Star

Andrew Francis

Andrew Francis

Howie Fairbanks

Guest Star

Stephen Aberle

Stephen Aberle

Orthodox Man

Guest Star

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (4)

    • Goof: When the girls are at The Planet celebrating gay pride, Erin Daniels (Dana) accidentally hits Leisha Hailey (Alice) on the face with her ponytail.

    • Opening Teaser:
      Los Angeles, California -- Present Day: In an S&M dungeon, a "slave" is being punished by her mistress.
      The Connection: At Pride 2005, Dana and Alice receive a pamphlet about the dungeon and decide to check it out.

    • Highlight below for a spoiler:
      It is revealed that Dana's brother, Howie, is gay.

    • Nitpick: Bette and Kit are half-sisters; they share the same father. Yet in this episode and the previous one they talk about how badly Melvin treated "their" mother as if talking about the same person. It is, of course, possible that Melvin treated both women badly.

  • QUOTES (9)

    • Woman: Hi. What are you doing here?
      Jenny: I'm celebrating Gay Pride, I guess. I don't know.
      Woman: You mean... gay shame. That's what it really is.
      Jenny: Why?
      Woman: 'Cause... most of us have more shame than pride.

    • Alice: So you came here?
      Howie: Well, yeah, I thought it would be fun to surprise you guys.
      Dana: Calling's fun, too.
      Alice: Or an email's fun.

    • Dana: Howie, that man is gay.
      Howie: I know, Dana.
      Dana: Are you, are you, are you imitating me? Because it's not funny. If that's what you're doing.
      Howie: No. I'm not.
      Dana: So you just, just decided that you're gay. You know... You're too young! I mean, it takes time.
      Howie: Dane, I've known since I was four.
      Dana: And you made that much fun of me?
      Howie: Well, it was because you're scared. I mean (shouting to the crowd) be gay, be proud everybody!
      (The crowd roars back.)
      Howie: (turning back to Dana) Dana, uhm, uhm. Could you... tell mom and dad for me?

    • Mark: (standing naked in front of Jenny) Is this what you want?
      Jenny: (throwing a pen at Mark) No. What I want is for you to write "fuck me" on your chest.
      (Mark doesn't move.)
      Jenny: Write it! Do it! And then I want you to walk out that door, and I want you to walk down the street. And anybody that wants to fuck you, say "Sure, sure, no problem." And when they do, you have to say "Thank you very, very much" and make sure that you have a smile on your face. And then, you stupid fucking coward, you're gonna know what it feels like to be a woman!

    • Jenny: (to Shane, after gently kissing her hand) You're not scary. And Carmen is not gonna get herself involved with something she can't handle, okay?

    • Dana: (taking a drink from Howie and sniffing it) A Cosmo, Howie?
      Howie: Yeah.
      Dana: That's alcoholic.
      Alice: (taking the drink) That's gay.

    • Tina: I want to see other people.
      Helena: You mean you want to see Bette.

    • Dana: How'd you find me, Howe?
      Howie: Are you kidding? Mom and dad love to talk about how you gave up a brilliant future, with Tonya, for a dead-end relationship with her (Alice).

    • Shane: (to Carmen) I never had a hamster, but I had a dog and her name was Remy. I have a brother but I never met him because we never grew up together. And my mom put me in foster care when I was 9, but I still love her very much.

  • NOTES (3)


    • The book Bette is reading to her father in the hospital room is Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain.

    • Alice: The Dykes on Bikes, and you're not going?

      Dykes on Bikes is a motorcycle club for lesbians, started in San Francisco in 1976. The official name has been changed to San Francisco Women™'s Motorcycle Contingent Dykes on Bikes™ and it became a non-profit organization in the late 80's.

    • Mark: Mark here, answering the question, "What are you looking for in a woman?" A little love. Happiness.
      Shane: And a little Al Green.

      Al Green is a gospel and soul singer who started his career in the 1970's. One of his most famous songs is Love and Happiness.