A The Leftovers Community
Sunday 10:00 PM on HBO (Returning 2016)

IT'S ABOUT TIME 

... Neil Gaiman's book American Gods, which has been begging for an adaptation for years now, is finally getting a shot on television. Starz (*gulp*) will be adapting the cherished genre book with the help of Bryan Fuller, the man behind Hannibal and Pushing Daisies. For those not in the know, Gaiman's book is all about a world where gods from all walks of mythology live, the people who believe in them, and the new ones that rise as new beliefs come into play. I'm obviously not doing it justice, but needless to say this is a big deal. Starz is desperate for a hit, and with Fuller on board they have the right guy to create one, but the network's track record scares me a little bit. American Gods has the potential to be Game of Thrones huge, and in HBO's hands—where it was in development for many years before the network realized they couldn't adapt it—it could have been. [Starz via press release]


BUSINESS TIME

... In other books-as-shows news, CBS has ordered an adaptation of James Patterson's novel Zoo for the summer of 2015. Despite the book's title conjuring images of looking at pachyderms while eating cotton candy, the story is terrifying. It presents a scenario where animals team up to kick our ass, with only a renegade biologist and a sexy scientist able to stop them. [THR]

... Under the Dome returned last night and I totally reviewed it with photos and words on those photos and the occasional moving photo. But what I want to tell you here is that it's still doing pretty well in the ratings. 9.4 million people tuned in for the Season 2 premiere, which translated to a 2.2 rating in the adult demo. Though that's a big drop from last year's numbers (13.3 million/3.3), it still kicked the butts of its competition and handily won the night for CBS. [EW]

... HBO's The Leftovers debuted on Sunday and bummed 1.8 million people out. The premium cable network's shows never start off with huge audiences, but this was even a little low for HBO. Compare it to the recent debuts of True Detective (2.33 million), The Newsroom (2.14 million), and Game of Thrones (2.22 million). Go on, compare it! I reviewed the premiere episode, and found it very intriguing but I'm not excited about its future as an actual series. [Variety]

... Breaking Bad spinoff Better Call Saul might take place before, during, and after the Breaking Bad timeline, meaning that Walter White could make an appearance in the show. And that guy with those freakish eyebrows. [NY Daily News]

... Robin Williams is back in rehab, but the good kind of rehab. Williams has checked into a long-term sobriety center to help him stay sober as opposed to going to rehab because he woke up in a ditch in his underwear. He'll stay there for a few weeks. [TMZ]

... You guys want to keep this Aaron Paul on The Walking Dead rumor going? Go for it. [HNGN]


CASTING ROUNDUP

... Arrow is beefing up its cast for Season 3 already, adding Devon Aoki to the mix. The former model will play Tatsu Yamashiro, a martial-arts expert featured in the Green Arrow comics also known by the name Katana. In the show, she'll be a mentor to Oliver in his flashbacks. [Deadline]

... Battlestar Galactica's Jamie Bamber is headed to Rizzoli & Isles for a multi-episode arc. He'll play a prosecutor who is accused of killing his wife, of course. Look for him to appear in the Season 5 summer finale and then again when the TNT drama returns from its break. [TV Line]

... Once Upon a Time is getting closer to its cash-grab of milking Frozen, and has cast a pair of characters from the Pixar hit. Newcomer Elizabeth Lail will play Anna, the young sister of Queen Anna, and Scott Michael Foster (Greek's Cappie) will play Kristoff, Anna's hunk 'o love. The role of Elsa still remains to be cast, so I still have hope. [TV Line]

... Chris D'Elia, formerly of Whitney, will guest star on TVLand's Jennifer Falls. He'll play the deadbeat dad who knocked up Jaime Pressly's character and took off, and returns a supposed changed man. Look for him in Episode 8! [TV Line]


REQUIRED READING

... Point: Orange is the New Black needs to focus more on its portrayal of men. [The Atlantic]

... Counterpoint: No, that guy is an idiot and Orange is the New Black is fine. [Flavorwire]


STORIES YOU MAY HAVE MISSED ON TV.COM

... Your new cast member for Criminal Minds is... Jennifer Love Hewitt!

... Your weekly dose of Teen Wolf pictures with funny captions is here! Price Peterson photo recaps "117"

... Cory's still reviewing 24: Live Another Day and will 'til the day is over.

... Since Yahoo! saved Community, we figured it might want to think about saving these 19 other shows.

... NBC renewed The Night Shift for a second season, and Fox canceled Hieroglyph before it even aired.


Previously Aired Episode

AIRED ON 12/6/2015

Season 2 : Episode 10

77 Comments
Comments (77)
Submit
Sort: Latest | Popular

Frozen, a Pixar movie??? When did that hapend, it is animated by Disney Studios (or one of there subsidies)

Reply
Flag
Pixar is a Disney subsidiary.
Reply
Flag
I've been waiting for American Gods on my TV screen for years. Or movie screen. Whatever. As the poll says, I'd be more excited if it was HBO doing the adaptation, but Bryan Fuller being involved is promising, and of course Gaiman is pure genius - we'll see how this translates to the small screen.
I've already had two favorite book adaptations do not so amazing there - Sword of Truth and Dresden Files. (Whoever thought ABC was the right place to adapt a bookseries whose main character gets tortured and raped for months in the very first book was clearly high - they didn't do too badly, considering, but on HBO it could have been GoT levels of epic) and while SciFi made some changes that I loved (I really liked Bob and Morgan in the series, OK) they should have left the story lines alone, because the ones they did weren't all that great (and I still want to see the unaired 2 hour version of Storm Front, dammit.)
2
Reply
Flag
This would make a great movie. A tv show, I dunno bout that.... GOT has a ton of material, and even they may run out next year if King SideProject doesn't make haste with his tortoise style of writing...TWOW- due out in 2022!
1
Reply
Flag
Bryan Fuller: Hmm! I'm hopeful for team Fuller/Gaiman/Green, that not only will they adapt it cleverly, but also avoid cable's tendency to festoon scenes with random sex acts and witless dialog.

Also: Nice to see a Brit doing well with US TV (Jamie Bamber), even if only for another recurring role this time. Katana! My first new Arrow season "spoiler". And Leftovers... I barely made it through the first hour. It seems lost before it ever got started.
Reply
Flag
The Leftovers really stinks and I am not even giving it the four episode trial.
American Gods can be either super awesome amazing good or rotten vomit diarrhea bad; no middle ground. So wait and see. although Starz has to make the same effort than for Spartacus and this has yet to be seen.
I think what Jamie Bamber needs is another SF role.

1
Reply
Flag
At least you gave it the one episode trial. I decided not to. It looks like something made to fail.
1
Reply
Flag
Spartacus was an amazing show, so I'm excited for American Gods (the book was AWESOME). Plus, hey, I'm a straight guy, I love needless nudity and gratuitous sex scenes! What's not to like?
2
Reply
Flag
I love Bryan Fuller and Neil Gaiman's work, so I should be psyched about this, but unfortunately it worries me that it is on Starz... Which means Mr. Fuller will probably become another man who disappoints... More pointless nudity and sex scenes I fear. It will cheapen everything and give it minus points no matter what the quality is on the rest of the show. I hope they'll prove me wrong, but Starz never do. :(
Reply
Flag
Um… Frozen is not a Pixar film. Its a Walt Disney Animation Studios production… Just saying.

I'm glad American Gods is picked up but then again its Starz… I feel like American Gods could be so much better if HBO produced it. I guess its too soon to judge though. I can't wait for it to finally air!
Reply
Flag
Pixar has been a subsidiary of Disney since 2006...Just saying.
Reply
Flag
Yeah but Pixar didn't make it.
Reply
Flag
This comment has been removed.
Reply
Flag
I'm so glad Starz picked the show up after HBO dropped it.
2
Reply
Flag
Let's hope it is more Banshee and Spartacus than Magic City or Black Sails (which aren't BAD, but not top notch) but still I'll believe it when I see it. They've been talking about American Gods being turned into a tv show for years. As far as HBO vrs. Starz. American Gods sounds more like an HBO audience show, and whenever Neil mentioned the possibility of the show it was with the understanding that HBO would be doing it, so what I want to know is, is Neil Gaimen on board with it being on Starz since he probably already sold the rights to HBO and Starz is a sister company of HBO so it is probably well in their rights to switch it over to Starz?
1
Reply
Flag
New Starz series? Looking forwards to the season renewal before it airs.
Reply
Flag
Bryan Fuller, Neil Gaiman, Starz...these are a few of my favorite things. American Gods has the potential to be epic!
3
Reply
Flag
The Leftovers will have a huge drop in ratings.

Jennifer Love is a regular? Now it makes me want to go back and watch it.
Reply
Flag
OH, I'm excited about American Gods. I've loved Starz ever since Spartacus. I think they can do a good job with this too. I really hope they get American Gods right, it's one of my favorite books.
1
Reply
Flag
I'm still hoping that Bruce Campbell will join The Walking Dead at some point, even just for a mior role.
1
Reply
Flag
Isn't Oliver supposed to be in Hong Kong?
Reply
Flag
I haven't read this particular Neil Gaiman book (I know, I know, both you all and Amazon tell me I will love it...I'll read it after I am done with this one, there) but I know Stardust translated well.
Reply
Flag
Bryan Fuller makes American Gods for television.
My immediate reaction to this message

2
Reply
Flag
If Bryan Fuller is at the helm of American Gods, I will be all for it. I loved the book and hope that Starz execs let Bryan have full control with some input from Mr. Gaiman. I am exited.
1
Reply
Flag
OMG, please, let american gods only be half as good as the book and it will be brilliant! i`m so excited!
2
Reply
Flag
I think STARZ has a shot. They had a couple of good shows over the last few years.

STARZ had
  • Spartacus, which many hailed as a great show.
  • Boss, which was a great show.
  • Da Vinci's Demons which was received well enough (I liked it).

But... they also had Torchwood: Miracle Day which many TW fans didn't like.
2
Reply
Flag
All three of those shows are considerably underrated although I think that has a lot to do with them airing on Starz. I personally think Boss is a better political drama than House of Cards but that is probably not a widely held opinion.
2
Reply
Flag
house of cards isn't a political drama, it's a pulpy thriller dressed in a political setting. the west wing, now that's a political drama.

boss had the same problems that hoc has - it's enjoyable enough in a disposable way, but it's laughably unrealistic and contrived.
Reply
Flag
They also had Magic City and latest is Power which I loved.
1
Reply
Flag
Magic City seems to have a very, very small but extremely loyal fan base. Sadly, it never seemed to grow during it's 2 season run. Heck, most of the hardcore fans I knew didn't even know there was a second season (sure, you could argue that didn't make them very hardcore at all, but hey)

Still, they also had that movie spinoff of Crash that started out great, then went completely downhill after a couple episodes.
Reply
Flag
I did not know about Crash spinoff too. It must be sometime back. I just remembered I enjoyed Black Sails too definitely more than crossbones.
1
Reply
Flag
Torchwood: Miracle Day wasn't bad, just had too many whiny crybabies nitpicking it because it wasn't set exclusively in the UK (also, the excessive homo-eroticism and complex, season-spanning storyline were probably a bit much for the average Torchwood fans).

And although not the best success to date, I felt Black Sails was a ton of fun, had just about the most amazing opening theme I've seen in a decade or 2, and it featured near-Spartacus levels of nudity (sadly, not as much violence and whimsical profanity).
Reply
Flag
I didn't have much problem with TorchWood; it was "different" but it wasn't bad. Though some people screamed "Americanized" when Gwen whipped out a rocket launcher and blew up a helicopter in the premiere.

My only problem was it left off on kind of a cliff-hangar.
1
Reply
Flag
Yeah, the rocket launcher was extremely out of place, not just on the standards of Americanization, but in the general sense of being too big and flashy for what was otherwise a pretty quiet and subtle bunch of anti-heroes, especially when we later come to see just how under-funded and limited on resources the group (duo?) was at the time.
1
Reply
Flag
American Gods can do well if they go full blown into it like Spartacus.

On the other hand if they go cheapest crap we can pull out of our asses (Read: Camelot) it will tank big time.
2
Reply
Flag
Camelot had some great ideas early on, but they all pretty much fizzled away about the same time Eva Green stopped getting naked for is, effectively removing ALL reasons to watch.
Reply
Flag
So you're saying that ideas = breasts?
3
Reply
Flag
I'm not saying no to that, and I'm not saying yes. But I will repeat there were some great ideas early on, and I very much enjoyed seeing them.
1
Reply
Flag
Also, I never thought about it that way but Cappie is Kristoff indeed.

Reply
Flag
Too bad American Gods won't be on HBO but let's be hopeful. It might still be great.
Reply
Flag
I wouldn't be adverse to more male-centric stories on OITNB, but as the poll suggests, it is primarily the story of female inmates, so male stories aren't necessary. Besides, if any future male storylines were as bad as Larry's, then I would gladly have none.
Reply
Flag
They only have about 7-8 males show up on the entire show, so its not like they already keep a decent balance, but hey, I'd love to see more interaction between Luschek and Nicky. If she weren't really into the girls, those 2 would be damn-near perfect for each other, heck they could even throw Fisher in for some 3's company action!
1
Reply
Flag
I just love the rumour that Aaron Paul might be on The Walking Dead. It seems unlikely, since Norman Reedus and Paul are working together on a film and that's the most logical explanation to the photos we've seen, but heck, if I was AMC I'd be spreading this like crazy. It would get people talking about The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, and even Better Call Saul, series' that the network hasn't had on for months, and won't be returning for months, yet will be apart of a trending story on their off-season. You can't say no to that.
1
Reply
Flag
Starz (*gulp*), indeed.
Reply
Flag
The main problem with American Gods' adaption is that it can easily turn into something like the Earthsea miniseries on Syfy (still the Sci-Fi Channel back then), which was a sheer atrocity. Regarding the book, it is indeed very difficult to adapt, and even with Brian Fuller, I'd say there are strong chances that it doesn't turn out well. In fact, what I am the most worried about is that Fuller may be easily sidelined from development, which will be a disaster. Besides, I don't see Neil Gaiman contributing, which will be a big loss, since he has already done a good job in adapting his own work.

By the way, I don't think American Gods is Gaiman's best work, but it is certainly the one that would be the most appealing to an American audience, since the novel is essentially an ode to America, very similar to U2's The Joshua Tree album. For those unfamiliar with Gaiman's work, I'd recommend Neverwhere and Sandman (a graphic novel), or even better, his short story collection Fragile Things. You may also take a look at the adaptions of MirrorMask (features Stephanie Leonidas, currently starring on Defiance) or Stardust (with Robert DeNiro in a rare good comedic role), both better than the original work they are based on.
More+
1
Reply
Flag
Sandman is sooooo good. All the spin-offs are, as well. Especially the Lucifer run. I disagree with you about American Gods, though, I think it's by far his best work, even better than Sandman. And I'm not even American.
1
Reply
Flag
Well, I am subjective to some extent - aren't we all? Besides, even though I don't consider American Gods as Gaiman's best work, I still think it is a very good novel, and certainly worth your time and money.
Reply
Flag
Thanks for the post, I will check out your recommendations.
Reply
Flag
I enjoyed StarDust quite a bit. Enough that when I accidentally broke my DVD I went out and bought another one.

Reply
Flag
I have faith in Starz. They did a great job with Spartacus.
1
Reply
Flag
If HBO couldn't find a good way to put the books onto TV, I can't say I have much faith in Starz.
1
Reply
Flag
That's why I'm not getting my hopes up.
Reply
Flag
Gaiman - is he and does it matter?
The Leftovers was a waste of James Blake's talent.
Somebody must've showed Robin Williams his latest show. Those cruel, cruel bastards!
Devon Aoki is one scary odd looking bird.- or is it just the picture, with one eye more closed making it look like two conjoined faces?
Jamie, Jamie, Jamie. WTF man? I know you want back on US TV but Rissol'e and bleugh?
Love me some Jaime Pressly. Shame it has to be in JF. Ho hum.
Better Call Saul just keeps sounding better.
Reply
Flag
Gaiman - is he and does it matter?

What? Are you making fun of his name? How very third grade of you.
2
Reply
Flag
Oh no, I've been homie skooled by dagrimmreepa. Go eat some kale.
Reply
Flag
wow.. i wasn't sure at first, but now i know: you're an idiot.
1
Reply
Flag
Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?
Flag
My dense stepfather has never known a TV title he couldn't butcher, but I love what he wound up calling that show: "Rizzo and Izzy."
Reply
Flag
while I'm not saying Starz is capable of churning out something big, I will say Power has somewhat redeemed them in my eyes. After Black Sails being an incredible disappointment, Magic City dropping off in quality dramatically after season 1 (IMO) and feeling like Spartacus wasn't worth the watch given the casting choice of the titular character upon his re-casting I was completely soured on them but Power is good (IMO.) and I say that as someone who was originally avoiding the show based on a bias against 50 cent and Omari Hardwick not being that compelling (based on him being ranked third behind the other 2 male leads on Dark Blue.)

between The Leftovers being from someone responsible for lost, a plot like 'a look at the world' post 2% of the worlds population disappearing (that's a fairly insignificant number IMO) and the opening scene where the woman whose baby disappeared looked everywhere other than outward (where someone running off with a baby thanks to the open window would be, not to mention the fact that you can hear someone open the door...) I turned it off right there. I read there's some a-hole killing dogs too so I'm glad I didn't make it that far. I feel HBO is falling off in quality. between cancelling Boardwalk Empire, The Newsroom and Treme and the keeping of shows like Veep and Girls I think it's an unsettling trend. and while I pretty thoroughly enjoyed True Detective I found the attempts at metaphysical dialogue cringe inducing. again, speaking to a trend of effing dumb.

netflix has yet to release a series I can continue to give a $#!* about, here's hoping that that show with the red viper or the marvel series' show up soon.

and fortunately there's the flash since arrow feels too lame anymore, devon aoki or not. maybe she's in a dame to kill for or something.
More+
Reply
Flag
terminaltrip421: " 'a look at the world' post 2% of the worlds population disappearing (that's a fairly insignificant number IMO)"

It's true that 2% doesn't seem a lot when you look at it that way, but if you put it into perspective, it's quite significant. The Earth's population is 7B (if you round down to the nearest billion); 2% would be 140M people. This would be equivalent to the entire population of Russia (the ninth most populous country) no longer existing.
Reply
Flag
Yeh, 2% doesn't sound like much until you factor it was 2% of the WHOLE world. That's a lot of people.

Plus, even locally... 1 out of every 50 people you know just disappeared. Between family, friends, work, and neighbors that means you'd probably know a couple people that disappeared... at the least.
Reply
Flag
Agree about Power. It's, ever not so, strangely on my TV each week.
Reply
Flag
I have not read American Gods, so I can't really know how worthy it is of a TV adaption, but the basic plot sounds promising, and the news that Bryan Fuller will be involved automatically raises my hype level to 100.
4
Reply
Flag
Do yourself a favor and read it. I was very hesitant on it, myself, even as a fan of Gaiman's works. The plot description sounded too nebulous to me, but I finally gave it a chance and it's amazing. It's actually much more straight forward than what I was expecting, and it's a very engrossing read.
Reply
Flag
Yeah, since I've heard about this news, I've been thinking of checking it out sometime, possibly before the show actually airs. I see that it's $5.49 on Amazon, and I was planning on purchasing something else on there soon, so I might add it to my order when I do. Though I'm not sure when I'll actually start reading it, since I'm in the middle of A Dance With Dragons, and I've had a few other things I've been waiting to read after that, but at least I'd have it for when I felt like reading it.
Reply
Flag
Do you find that reading ASoIaF lessens your enjoyment of the show, cos you know what's coming? I've been itching to read the series since the show started, but I'm always hesitant to.
Reply
Flag
I've only seen the first season so far (rewatching it, to get my dad into the series), so I can't really say about the other seasons. As far as the first season, I've still been enjoying it a lot, just for a very different reason than I would have if I had watched the show first. Rather than being shocked by the bigger moments in the series, I've just loved seeing how they've brought the stories and world to life. In fact, I think in some ways, reading the books before watching the series has made me appreciate it a bit more, because I already knew the characters, world, and story, so it wasn't as hard to keep track of everything as it might have been.

There have already been a few changes and omissions in the show, some I've liked, others a bit more questionable, but so far it hasn't really hurt my enjoyment of the show overall. Though I've heard that future seasons have a lot more changes, so I'll have to wait and see how I feel about it then. Though there's already one thing I've heard they left out of Tyrion's story in season 4 which I'm kind of sad to hear about, since I loved that part of the book.
More +
1
Flag
American Gods sounded at first like a US version of The Almighty Johnsons, with possibly a touch of Heroes. Although it is based on a novel, not another TV series. And it will be interesting to see what Fuller does with it.

The ratings for Under The Dome suggests this may be the last year for it. It seems people were just too turned off when they didn't end the show last year but chose to extend the single plot point show out. Some of those where people who knew it was bad but chose to slog it out.

If Orange Is The New Black was about a male prison, you can be sure they would cram in stories about the inmates wives, sisters, mothers and significant others.
Reply
Flag
The only thing American Gods has in common with The Almighty Johnsons is the use of Norse Gods. They are not even remotely similar, nor is it similar to Heroes. It is however a very good book and truly original, I highly recommend it.

I'll admit that it's been a few years since I saw Oz, but I don't remember there being any focus on female characters..
1
Reply
Flag
There was some female focus back in Oz.

  • That doctor (the woman that a prisoner was infatuated with) got a fair amount of screen-time and some backstory.
  • There was that female preacher that helped the inmates... she got a lot of time.
  • Then there was the female guard who was a bigger sleeze-ball than many of the other guards.
  • There was that one crazy woman on death row.

And I think they covered the wives and such of some of the inmates.
Reply
Flag
Shouldn't that read "Chris D'Elia, currently of Undateable"? I'd rather we forgot all about Whitney.
1
Reply
Flag
first off, Frozen is not Pixar. it's straight up solo Disney animation. and they missed a huge publicity stunt by not having Jonathan Groff and Kristen Bell reprise their voices with added flesh and bone by not being in OUAT as well. they both do premium cable shows at the moment, I'm sure they'd have the time.

I think American Gods could be good, if Starz doesn't try and just make it boring like with Black Sails... or almost ruin it like with Torchwood... and Bryan Fuller gave one of my favorite shows in Pushing Daisies, and the episodes he did for Heroes were series highlights.. but we'll see how it does.
5
Reply
Flag
But Disney Animation is Pixar now. Disney bought up Pixar, then Pixar effectively took over Disney's Animation. They're practically one company with two different brand names, sort of like Chevrolet and Buick.
Reply
Flag
Disney might own Pixar but Pixar and Disney are still separate entities though, Disney owns Marvel but they're still called Marvel's such-and-such. Gatorade is owned by Pepsi, but you wouldn't call it Pepsi, you'd call it Gatorade. or Sam's Club and Walmart. Plus nothing on Frozen's promotion of packaging was/is labeled as Pixar, while Pixar movies are. it's not Disney's Toy Story 3, it's Pixar's Toy Story 3.. or if nothing else, Disney Pixar.
6
Reply
Flag
In simple terms, like all of the other products KevinG87 mentioned, Disney has the distribution rights to PIXAR films. Pixar makes them, Disney ships them, they all make money. Therefore, all Pixar movies (at least since 2006) are distributed by Disney, but not all Disney Animation films are Pixar. (Interesting fact, I live in Canada, where Gatorade is distrubuted by Coke).
Reply
Flag
If you look at the people involved with the two companies you'll find they're much the same, especially Lassiter who works for both Disney and Pixar. It's not like the difference between Dreamworks and Disney. I wouldn't be surprised if they even used the same computers.
Flag
Follow this Show
Members
3,174