I'll get to the question at the end. Hey guys so I just finished the "red john" episode. This show is amazing. It's crazy how they held off until middle of season 6 to bring a close to him. I have a question for those who have seen the entire series. Does Lisbon, Jane and the team ever get their CBI jobs back and become a team again? I hate the vibe of the show right now with everyone split up and having to answer to the FBI
Just watched the series finale, and couldn't be more satisfied. The show came full circle from where it began, it started with a serial killer and it ended with a serial killer. It started with Patrick Jane losing his wife and child and ended with him having a new wife, and a child on the way.
I have loved this show from the Pilot, and am going to miss it terribly. There were a few bumps along the way, I thought the Red John reveal could have been handled better. Also the Kim Fischer character the second half of season 6 didn't fit in at all. But for the most part this show has very rarely left me disappointed. I really liked the way they handled the Jane and Lisbon relationship, it felt very natural and organic. Simon Baker and Robin Tunney have had great chemistry since the beginning, and I'm very glad Jane and Lisbon got their happy ending.
I stared at a blank page with just a heading for over an hour, not knowing how to start, not knowing if I should curse you or pity you. There are no words to describe the frustration I feel after 7 years of dedication to your show, I don't believe Webster even has a word that have to say, I stopped watching this clownish festival you called a reboot mid-way through the last season, I just couldn't handle it anymore; the finale? I haven't seen it and will not, what I've read around the web was more than enough.
Honestly, as an executive producer, do you deem yourself illegible to play with people's minds like that? Have you any idea of the level of damage 5 years of clues have done to the followers of your show? I'm not talking about your facebook fansite cheering for Jisbon (we will revisit that later), have you even a clue how much information websites like and contain? 20000+ theories combined that prove this show had an amazing potential, something no other show ever had or can have. The initial idea was brilliant, at the end of
Season 3 I gave you a hats-off for being a genius; and even though I agree with most that 'Strawberries & Cream' is the best RedJohn ending ever I was wishing for more, back then I was hoping it wasn't him and kept wanting more.
Then, irrationally, began the pour-down of clues on the audience; clues
coming in left and right with such focus on them they left everyone in awe, scratching their brains and revisiting previous episodes endlessly to make the right connections. You might say it's our fault for focusing so much, I'll just answer that it wouldn't have been the case if you wouldn't have focused the camera so much on all those clues. I will not bother myself mentioning all the clues, you know them one by one, that culminated in 06x08.
'Red John' was so badly handled I simply dropped my jaw throughout the entire episode, from the lousy scripts all the actors were following to the pigeon trick (is that seriously fitting for such a story?). Nothing made sense and a tear in the universe wouldn't have fixed my jaw back in place at that moment.
Despite the ending to probably the greatest ark ever designed, and the lack of connection to all the carefully crafted clues you have given us; most fans including myself made up our own endings and resigned ourselves that you're just a producer with a lousy submissive personality who had to give in to Roth and his network. We decided to put all the red herrings, the Black Association and RedJohn behind us and waited for your we didn't know is the level of lowliness you would reach, as if it was made on purpose to systematically shatter your fan-base and replace it with mindless sheep (yes, sheep).
The supposed reboot started with mentions of the BA to never again be used again (please do bold, underline, emphasize the word 'never'), then you have enjoyed sending us cryptic messages via Baker's script and some red colors here and there (again, carefully placed and specifically camera focused). WHY Bruno?Here's what I really think of your reboot and 'encore' season:
- All the reasons for admitting Jane into the FBI were never mentioned again.
- Marcus Pike (again using a cryptic screen name) had a huge potential yet was a total flop.
- The entire reboot was focused on a romance between Jane and Lisbon, this was clear from the beginning, yet I never imagined it would be that pathetic.
- What kind of a romance is that where Lisbon says 'I love you' and Jane looks away with a silly smile on his face instead of kissing her; are we witnessing real life here or a TV show? The chemistry between those two was clearly close to zero and it was as obvious as a slap on the face.
- Obvious? Maybe not for your sheep, you know those fans cheering the awesome(?) love story on facebook daily.
- Lazarus.. epic fail. Again, huge potential to give a closure, I'm baffled and speechless at your those fans who filled up your pockets throughout those years deserved something else
Bruno, I do hope someday you realize that; and I can tell you that no fans are ever going to follow you again, not to Gotham and not anywhere else (yet apparently you care only about the sheep so please keep do apologize to the 'sheep' reading this, if anyone feels offended kindly understand this show had something you probably won't ever see and was destroyed by money hungry megalomaniacs.
This is an honest rant Bruno, coming from an ex-fan who has literally wasted days and weeks following your show. I personally hope you choke on all the money you made tricking people.
How about a season or two about red john? I was thinking like some episodes on young rj and some about him in action like recruiting, plannings and stuff like that. We can also see how he was always a step ahead of Jane. Maybe do some episodes and answer the questions the fans are asking.
Jane inquires into and about EVERYTHING, and gives us all the sordid details --- but when it comes to THEE cliffhanger of Season Five AKA -- "THE LIST" -- Jane suddenly doesn't want to know -- and no one else on the team wants to know?
Heller just didn't know how to explain it -- because HE didn't know either!!
I've always liked this show. It's changed a lot as it progress through its life on TV. But I think that overall, it is a pretty good show to watch. The main character is quite interesting to watch. The whole angle of being a mentalist is pretty cool. We get characters who also help support the show in various ways. It's fun to watch it as it goes along. It might not have done everything you would have wanted it to do, but I still think that it was pretty good in the end.
I dont know is it just me, am i crazy or what but somethin is wrooong heree!
Season 7 was good but the ... i'm not completely satisfied.
Remember Kristina Frye?? What about her?? And that scene when Jane was killing Mcallister, he whispered about some psychic, how he needed to tell him about, and then Jane interrupted!! I was certain that this about red john was not over, because the story about psychic Kristina had no ending, so clearly Mcallister was talking about her, i mean i dont know!!
I need closure! Through the seasons every detail was cleared except this one! :(((
Hi BRUNO . I have an idea for a new crime drama serie.
a serial killer who is murdering 5 people in different places simultaneously. you can make 100 seasons of it and because this is you who is writing one day ( after your pockets gone full) , you can say he was a magician and you don't want to explain anything else and then turn it in to a ..... soap opera. and then pay a bunch of internet whores to sent happy thoughts on it and pay media for liking it
I had gotten quite tired of this show the last couple of seasons and basically watched enough to know how Red John ended and what happened next. That's it.
It's fun again. The Mentalist used to be a fun show despite the subject matter and Red John. A long the way it forgot that. And these days, most shows survive off the characters and characterization, not by plot. Plot wears out very quickly when it the characters are ignored. Things are hanging together better now and the plot doesn't seem to rely on them being stupid any more.
So I like it much better. However, I do think it's time to end, while being on a better note than they would have if it had ended last year.
Jane makes himself a hostage so Lisbon won't go into the house. Says he couldn't face it to lose his love again. And if he'd died it wouldn't have hurt him. Selfish jerk. It would have hurt her! She'd have had to live with the fact that he got killed so she wouldn't. It was bad enough when they did the cheap thing and put these two together. Now they are destroying the integrity of the guy we liked. Good thing it's going off the air.
Feb. 4th, 2015: tonight on the Mentalist they killed off an actress who I had hoped would replace Tunney - Theresa think her name is is always pouting and gloomy and is a terrible actress; there is absolutely no chemistry between her and Patrick They should ease Teresa Lisbon out of the show and bring in someone who can act and who has a personality!!! The show is getting boring!
While a lot have changed in the chemistry of the show, no more arch-nemesis of Jane and several main characters has been replaced in the new office. I still really nejoy watching this show. then again, the list of shows I love is tremendously long :) Things has changed, but it's still The Mentalist.
I used to love watching the show. But honestly now its boring its not the same they ended the redjohn storyline too quickly. I don't know but the whole show started with red john and Jane and should end with redjohn and jane. I mean the show is fine but redjohn was the reason I would wait a whole week just to watch the show waiting to see what jane would do...
Season 7 looks like a waste of air. I don't recognize 'The Mentalist'. UNBELIEVABLE.
There is no story left. No twist. No mind-games or puzzles. All is gone. As if everybody, who created the chemistry of the show, left, leaving it an orphan. I am so very sad.
Even now, using sudden thoughts, I could see so many possible twists to the current season of show that could've been created.
Why don't make it over somebody else, than Patrick? He solved his life case, now let's see how he can help somebody else? Or a cause? Solve a conspiracy that's been all over about his life before Red John?
Or: Abbot, for instance. What if he is a global conspirator, who wants to take down FBI and kill everybody with Patrick's hands?
Or: Vega. She might be Lorelei's sister, and now it's her vendetta to make Patrick fall in love with her, kill Lisbon and make his life miserable.
Or.. I don't know - Patrick, Cho & Lisbon get a tape with Rixby & Vanpelt crying for help, right after which those two disappear and it's Patrick's quest to find them and take them home for good. Team reunion, fireworks, show finale. Is that too much to ask?! ANYTHING!!! A storyline!
After watching Kerry Washington in her series, this show is becoming a joke in comparison. Why do you bury it's legacy?! It used to be one of the best!!!
Wake up, writers!! You have already wasted 5 episodes of the show! Come on!!! =\ Ugh.
I watched this show religiously, waiting for the eventual and inevitable snuffing of Red John. But every episode following that season's conclusion has only gotten worse and worse. Season 7 has become laughable? I just watched episode 5 and that might be the worst one yet? I can watch no more. No more suspense. No more drama. Just Jane loves Lisbon and fools the bad guy yet again. Not since Dexter has a show gone so bad, so fast. Rest in Peace Red John, as you didn't have to watch what has become of this once great show.
I used to love this show! It used to be quirky and fun. Now we are somehow supposed to believe that they all work for the FBI, Cho is totally flatlined, and Lisbon and Jane lost their chemistry. WHAT HAPPENED? Why did they change it so much? What made this show was the characters. I can't even watch it anymore.
Yes, I really like the show, but they need to work on their geography a lot. Big mountains in Galveston and near Corpus. They also showed Galveston having an international airport with a Southwest airplane landing. They are also able to travel very quickly all over Texas. Maybe they did the same thing in California, but I live in Houston so not sure.
I love this show but if they say there in Galveston Tx I shouldn't see big mountains in the background. I'm from Galveston and was excited when they mentioned it but it didn't come close to resembling Galveston.
Up until he final season, even though some of the subject mater was dark, the character of Patrick Jane brought a delightful twist of humor to almost every episode.
The writing in the final season is dull and boring. They should have ended it last season before all the good writers left town.
I will enjoy watching some of the older episodes over and over. The characterization of Patrick Jane is truly a delightful experience. I seriously doubt the final season will find its way into my personal collection. Not even when the unimaginative writers have abbot turning out to be one of Red John's disciples and murdering Jane or Lisbon or both in the final episode.
Seriously how could Abbot not be a Red John disciple. What other reason would an FBI agent have for tracking down Patrick in Mexico, the whole "we need your expertise" explanation is nonsense. Abbot recruited Jane so he could get inside his personal life and repeat the very scenario that started this series. Lisbon gets pregnant with Jane's child and Red John Strikes from the grave (Abbot) to kill them. In the meantime the writer I admired most caught the last train for the coast.....
Seriously, I saw the jane and lisbon thing coming from a mile away. The fact that it surprises people, surprises me.. Seriously in the very first season there's various times patrick has insinuated that he had strong feelings for lisbon, and they've been dancing around that idea every season, so you people need to open your eyes, it was going to happen.. As for the Red John thing, it was great while it lasted, however you can't sit there and pretend that was the only reason to watch the show... IT was freaking hilarious, the reoccurring characters , my favorite being Laroche and Brett stiles were awesome, the chemistry of the cast was great.. And i honestly don't know what all of these supposed "fans" of the show were doing when the previous episodes aired that didn't focus around Red John .. Because i still loved it...
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