I love this show but this episode was one of the worst I've ever seen. A definite yawner. I can't believe I stayed awake while watching it. I don't know what's wrong with the tv shows lately but they are strong on the lemon episodes. It looks like a 10 year old kid wrote it. The guys that usually write it surely lost a bet or something because that was terrible. Simply not an interesting story, nothing is moving forward. Everybody was on a break while filming that show. I'll keep watching but I hope it gets back to what it used to be or else I think they're digging their own grave.
In the world of television, the OC's Chrismukkah episode has always been a season classic. Chrismukkah is something that makes the OC special; & something that keeps old fans coming back. Ever since I started watching the OC, the Christmukkah episodes were always a big deal. Naturally, I thought this episode would live up to all the Christmukkah hype; I was terribly mistaken. What would happen in a world where Ryan never came to the OC? This was the question that the teaser used to allure us & it would worked. If only that excitment went beyond the previews. From the previews you'd really expect something more; maybe more magic or excitment; this episode had neither. Watching this episode was like sitting through the episode where Marissa died, only worse. As Ryan falls off the ladder onto the ground, we expect something big and exciting to happen. That something does happen; Ryan and Taylor both end up in the hospital in a sort of coma. Then we get a taste of their dream world; or in OC lingo, the alternate reality. Basically, the whole alternate reality situation was a farse. Having watched One Tree Hill's similiar themed episode I expected something more. Once again, this episode didn't deliver. Everything about the dream world seemed totally fake & even when we were in the "real OC" the writers did a really poor job of representing it. A big reason why I watched this episode was because it's Chrismukkah; & because I thought Marrisa would return. In both regards, The OC disappointed. Compared to other Chrismukkah episodes, this episode failed to show the true Chrismukkah spirit. Aside from a surprisingly touching ending that was better than the episode itself, <i>The Chrismukk-huh?</i> was a waste of time.
I want Marissa back! This ep. was such a tearjerker, especially when Ryan walks on the beach: That was Marissas spot. Taylor and Ryan are so mismatched and wrong for each other. Granted, I used to think Marissa was an idiot, but this show is nothing without her and it pains me to even think that this was the official "Goodbye Marissa" episode.
One thing I didn't get was if Marissa dies in TJ, than she would have had to seen Luke cheating, so why would Summer be friends with Holly, especially if she was partly the cause of her bestfrieds death? Another thing, the writers need to stop changing around Kaitlyns age - WAY too confusing!
This episode had everyone all hyped up about if Marissa would make an appearance. I have to admit, I was shocked and excited (in a good way) when I saw the trailer. Imagine my disappointment when it was just KAITLIN. I don't think this episode gave enough closure for Ryan, he DID read Marissa's letter, but didn't really do much else. Although the lifeguard's station part really choked me up.
I love the other parts of this episode (except the Ryan/Taylor romance---no comment.), it was so fun to see them all acting completely different..well except Julie, she was always a slut, haha.
Anyway, this episode was a bit disappointing and a tad depressing, but all in all it was a great episode and I'm glad I recorded it so I can watch it all over again!
I sort of liked this episode, however I wish they showed Marissa. It was nice to know that Ryan gave Marissa 3 more years, however Ryan and Marissa were such a good couple. I do like Taylor, but she is annoying at times. This season is quite good, I enjoy it, but once again Marissa absence is felt, at least for me.(Taylor is good, but cannot replace her)
so Marissa's death made Sandy & Kirsten's marriage fall apart and they each ended up with Julie & Jimmy respectivly, right.....makes perfect sense. Oh yeah and Kaitlin managed to get into college at what, 15? 16? I know the show looks to be doing pretty well when you check the ratings on this site because the standard procedure seems to be "Watch 20 minutes of it and immediatly give it a 9-10 rating" but unfortunately for the ultimate fate of the show, that of Nielsen ratings and critics that don't work for FOX, TV Guide or US Weekly, who have given the show basically 3 good episodes out of 7, they only get 16 this season (barring some miraculous turn in the ratings) so look for the series to slowly gravitate towards tying everything up. Its obvious watching the show that Josh doesn't plan on writing a season 5.
Yep, Christmukkah is always full of surprises.
After times of tortured pain, the whole grieving era about Marissa has officially finished. It would have been nice if she had shown up at the airport, though; but I'm aware that if this had happened, Ryan would have never come back to the *real* world... maybe the OC writers' choice was the right one. Anyway, it was sad:
- Ryan's moment at the pier.
- Julie reading Marissa's letter to the Cohens. In my opinion, Julie's voice can be really touching.
And it turns out Newport Beach without Chino Kid totally sucks! Okay, I can even accept Jimmy and Kirsten married, but Sandy and Julie together? That was kind of shocking. Summer's dumb phase was funny and creepy at the same time.
It's reassuring that there is something that does not change, even in a parallel universe:
1. Julie and Veronica's b!tchiness. :D
2. Sandy is doomed to bail Ryan out. LOL
A mysterious point is why in the hell Kaitlin was flying back from Berkeley, since she is (or should be) 15.
I usually looove the Chrismukkuh episodes! Normally they are wonderful! However, I feel that Season four's Chrismukkah episode did not measure up too well. I did not understand the whole premise... alternate universe?? Taylor was kind of annoying in this episode and I have actually grown to like her in every other episode. I did enjoy her talking back to her mother in the alternate universe though. I also thought that it was not a very classy way of saying a "final farewell" to Marissa. She was one of my main reasons of watching The OC for the first 3 seasons and I thought without her the show would be nothing, but I was wrong... it's still great!! However, I feel this episode gave her no justice and a proper goodbye should be done!
A very strange episode for the oc and althu i loved it i think semi oc fans wuld think its far-fetched. Ryan gettin over Marrisa is the whole point of the episode but this was his goodbye to her and it was his way of discovering the oc \'needed\' him more than he every imagined, interesting to see how ryan acts after this bcos he has always actd in a way that he gets in the way of everybody and now he cannot do that, a gd episode i reli enjoyed it
I, for one, have always been a sucker for an alternate universe episode. That 70\'s Show, Enterprise, you name it. It\'s that whole \"It\'s a Wonderful Life\" thing that I fall for every single time. This episode was also the yearly Chrismukkah episode. You can\'t say no to the spirit of Chrismukkah. And I have to say this year\'s show was much better then the syrupy one that aired last year. I was also very glad that the producers didn\'t punk out and try to put Marissa in the show some how. I think the writer\'s a pretty good job at changing the parallel world while still keeping to the O.C. series. All in all, a fun Christmas episode.
An unexpected and exciting twist that was spun in the direction of this episode. An alternate universe episode? Sounds like something that Seth Cohen would handle, and you know what? It was creative, funny, and really moved the story forward. Seeing how everything is if Ryan never showed up really shows how far the show has come; it's already been three years! It's also really hilarious; Seth Cohen in particular goes back to his dorky ways, which was what made him super hilarious in the first season, and his screaming I hate my life constantly at his pillow was truly laugh out loud worthy. Most importantly though what the episode accomplished is, hopefully, moving on from Marissa's death once and for all, and it did such an awesome job of accomplishing that too.
I liked the way the show kinda turned it's back on it's usual in the "real world " kinda thing and had a go at another reality it was awesome to see..
There were some great quotes in this episode from taylor and i really enjoyed watching the two together you can reli see them getting closer with her sitting on his bed at the end aww..
I also admired the way the writers saw it as an oppurtunity to bring back old faces and give the regulars alternate roles to play. we had sandy and julie that was weird , jimmy and kirsten good to see him back and summer acting totally dumb that was classic really made me lauf.!
Ryan got the chance to get "closure" on Marrisa and tell the people he cares about how they have all influenced his life.The infamous christmakuh (excuse the spelling if wrong)also got a mention it's almost a tradition now to have an episode..
I really liked this episode it was a good experimental one focusing on something out of this world ot rather in an alternate world but hey it was awesome...!
This was a refreshing change, instead of having the typical Christmakkuh episode, everyone getting together, something happening the end, it was completely different. Ryan and Taylor have a minor disagreement and fall of the ladder and end up in the hospital. Neither one of them will wake up and they are both dreaming about the same thing. This episode was pretty entertaining, as every character was linked to someone that they were totally wrong for. I do not like that Che character, I know he was in this episode because he was supposed to marry Summer but he\'s just an annoying character all around. I think it is time that they get rid of him. Ryan and Taylor are funny to watch because Taylor makes everything so awkward. It is nice to see some humor in the show again, I thought when Seth was freaking out and saying that nobody liked him was pretty funny. It was also nice to see Jimmy again in this episode.
this episode was pretty good :)
it was really confusing at fist and it took a while to understand what was going on, i knew from the beginning that taylor and ryan were somewhere weird but i couldn't figure it out. once they explained what was going on the alternate universe was actually pretty cool to watch, it was crazy though how summer was such a bimbo airhead, it was almost painful to watch. i did like to watch taylor and ryan try to fix everything though, i especially liked with taylor called her mom a b_tch and then was like "oh my god"
it was a good episode though, but it didin't really have a conclusion but i did like it.
These kind of AU episodes are almost always really lame. But here's an exception to the rule. This was one of the finest OC episodes. It was witty and touching . It really made you wonder 'what if'... Ryan and Taylor's characters got to shine as they were making things right in the parallel universe. I have to question one thing though: why would Taylor forgive her mother just like that? How did calling her a b* in the parallel universe help? And Seth's character seemed a little off this time. But thanks to all the funny moments plus finally moving forward from Marissa's death this episode really earned its place in my favorites. This episode was probably fun for the writers too because it really let them play around with ideas.
Thought I'd Hate It!!! I Did Label It To One Of My Friends As "Not A Real Proper Good OC Episode And All Really Weird Considering The Hype It Had" Before It Started And Then I Loved It More Than The Ones Before Definately The Best OF Season 4 Too Good And I Love Taylor And Ryan Completly Shocked But They Are So Cute And In The "Alt World" Julie And Sandy?!?! What Was That I loved That THey Brought Jimmy Back Though And I Wish Marrisa Could Have Come Back Although It Was Nice To Know That Ryan Gave Her More Time But She Still Had To Die!!!
Wow, what a great new take of the show. The first time I saw the episode i had to blink twice, nothing near the kind of episode I was counting on. But wow what a tripping twist. When I saw Ryan and Taylor falling down from that ladder, I was I bit agitated, of course they wouldn't dare killing of both Ryan and Taylor, after what happened to Marissa and Johnny earlier?? And then they got up a little too fast after the falling, so I was even more confused then. After that things started to get even more confusing. An alternate universe? Hmmm it started to look more and more like a dream. But since when do we see peoples dreams on The O.C.? I was a little surprised by the dreams Ryan had of Taylor earlier, washing his windows and stuff. But this was getting a little out of hand. But I kept on watching, and realized that it was really amusing actually. Although sometimes it was quite confusing which scene took place in the real universe, and the alternate one. Although of course the lives of everyone turned out completely different in the alternate universe, I had to watch the episode another time to fully understand what was going on.
But anyway, I guess it was a really risky thing to spruce up the episode like that (man, did I just say sprucing? ^^), and it turned out to be really cool. The show just keeps on getting better and better!!
A "what-if?" episode... Unexpected, but really good. It was a great way to show Ryan how the things would turn out if he never came to Newport... It was great to see Jimmy again, although I think that they give him little time. Summer was a little more... Ok, I don't know what's the word to put in here, but she was a little more "dumby" that in the first season. That thing that she did with Holly in the club (that dance or what's that..) was creepy. Really. Jundy??? Wow, way too much. Even in an alternate reality Kandy love each other, so there's no question: they should stay together forever. The confsing part in the episode was... How Taylor was a boy, if Ryan never came to Newport?? Plot hole...
Finally, it seems that Ryan is going to get over Coop. In my opinion, she is better with Taylor...
Taylor, that was gorgeous in the last scene in the hospital. I can't stop watching that scene over and over again... But her gift.. A grill for a 19 old boy?? Weird..
Season 1 material.
i am so glad that the oc has moved on so well after marissa was killed off. now that marissa and all her dramas have gone its better than ever. i loved this ep, it was hilareous and moving. i loved ryand and taylors dynamic together in alt world and think she was the perfect charecter for the show after some of the serious issues delt with in season 3. im so glad they havent kept ryan all moody and grieving. while it was wonderful to watch i some times think they drag things like that on for too long, so his developing relationship with taylor is good to see, even though there a few bumps in the road during this ep. writers keep up the good work.
As soon as the episode began with Ryan and Taylor bickering on a ladder while hanging lights...i knew this episode was going to be good. I liked the way the whole thing was structured! So heres to Josh for some great writing. I thought the swapping of the couples was interesting...made me see how differently The O.C would run with Julie and Sandy together. All i can say is \'interesting\'. In an alternate universe without ryan, of course Summer isn\'t going to be with Seth. I guess this episode was here to remind people that if Ryan had never showed up...the bubble of Newport Beach would be somewhat different...okay, maybe ALOT different. Taylor and Ryan\'s dynamics were as always new and funny. It was a really well structured scene when Ryan read the note from Marissa at the lifeguard stand...and then said goodbye. The cover of \"Into Dust\" was unusual but seemed to fit. It was the right thing to signal his return to the \"Normal\" Universe. A great episode of progression and comedy..and one to remember.
Although I had already seen another one of these sorts of episodes (The Suite smell of excess) I still think it ruled. It was really funny and I laughed so much. The whole plot was so random it was funny. Summer acting all chavvy was hilarious and I thought it was so good. Che as Chester was also weird. It was interesting to see how much of an impact Ryan had to the show. I really liked it and I could watch it again loads. It is a must see episode and was awesomely funny. Watch it or be stupid!
This episode was really good. With the dream sequence mixed in with bits of the present day, they both worked really well together. Having Ryan have to put all the couples within the Orange County back with their respective partners was a really nice twist. i really liked the ending when Ryan wakes up and says that he is really glad that Taylor is there. i thought it made a nice beginning to their relationship. I also liked how that in the end Ryan had to solve his own problems on his own to get back to the "real" world, and he didn't have Taylor there to help him.
I personally really don't like marissa being killed off the show. I was really upset about it because the oc is my favorite show right now, but with this episode it somewhat helped me get over it (hey and it also helped ryan!)
I was wondering when they would be bringing up Marissa again. I knew that she wouldn't have even shown up in the alt universe (mostly because i looked on wikipedia on all the character's info a couple of times and nothing mentioned her returning after her death on season 3)
It would have been nice to have had her in at least this episode. They could have said farewell face to face. that would have been amazing. But since mischa was apparently forced off the show she might not even have wanted to come back? who knows. Anyway back to reviewing:
The actors did a fantastic job fulfilling their character's "alt reality" life. It reminded me about how (before rachel bilson was on the star cast list)she was really spoiled and somewhat of a dimwit. Ben did an amazing job (as always)he defiantly didn't forget the expression he makes when the topic of marissa comes up (for example if she's in trouble). The part at the diner was defiantly a favorite.
I hope the next episodes are just as good as this one. Also that i have truly accepted that taylor is ryan's new lover. It's time to move on!
Taylor and Ryan are putting up Chrismukkah lights and arguing when they fall off the roof. They wake up in a parallel universe. They are in a coma in the real world. Sandy and Julie are married, Kirsten and Jimmy are married, Julie is cheating on Sandy with Che (now chester) who is engaged to Summer. Seth is still a dork who watches Summer from afar and Caitlin is the youngest freshman at Berkely. Oh, and Marissa died 3 years before of a drug overdose.
Taylor and Ryan must fix things to get back home, but this is hard as Ryan doesnt exist and Taylor is a boy. Taylor has to leave after she finally stands up to her mother, leaving Ryan to tidy up things alone. Ryan gets arrested and Sandy bails him out because of the thing Ryan said. But reading a letter from Marissa he recieved in the real world brings him back.
Taylor and Ryan dont remember anything, and everyone spends Chrismukkah in the hospital with them.
What a weird paralel universe!
Sandy and Julie dont match at all!! Summer is so futil, and who would say she'd marry Che!
Che is worst then Luke! I love Taylor! She is so funny! And a crazy too!
Seth is so cute! He looks like a little child! (I hate my life, I hate my life! ahahah)
Ryan gets less melodramatic from this episode on (I have already finished watching The OC, but sometimes I re-watch my favorite episodes!
It's good to see that Taylor confronted her mom! But it's weird in the other universe she is a man! ahahhaah
I love The OC and specially season 4 (and I know a lot of people don't agree wiht me!!)
When Taylor and Ryan fall off the roof, they are thrown into an alternate world. The relationships they had and knew are all jumbled and no one is like who they were before. Ryan and Taylor try to find a way back to their own world.
This is one of my favorite OC episodes ever. I just loved how they portrayed everyone in the exact opposite of what they really are. Summer was hilarious as a dumb rich girl. I laso loved seeing the trust between Ryan and Taylor grow. they are great for each other ! I liked how they teased you into thinking Marrissa was alive. When the episode originally aired, i didn`t believe for a second Marrissa was really alive. sorry fox. no fooling me. but i think they fooled a few people. once again, one of my favorite episodes ever. i loved it.
This is not only my favorite Chrismukkah episode but my favorite episode of season 4. Taylor is so comical and dramatic from beginning straight to the very end. The Ryan & Taylor fall leading them to an alternate reality really brought out some of the best of the actors. The letter from Marissa Cooper was a real nudge in the heart.
We see Kirsten worse than she was at the start of season 1. Julie is a lost puppy in any reality, trying to figure out what career and guy best suits her. Seth, gosh, I love Seth in any reality. I'm not a fan of Sandy in the alternate reality. Summer...wow. I thought Summer's personality was enough as is, but Rachel Bilson's performance as the Summer in the alternate reality shows just how grateful I am for Summer in reality. It was nice to see Jimmy, although not under the circumstances in the alternate reality haha. That was a nice twist how Taylor & Ryan thought Marissa was alive in the alternate reality when really she wasn't.
I was so proud when Taylor stood up to her mom in the alternate reality, which helped her keep her sanity with her mother in reality.
I loved everything about this episode, I could go on and on but I don't want to make this too long. Just go watch it and you will see how amazing this is!
Great episode, my favorite in fact. I love Seth as a geek again! Summer is so first season. But if Ryan thought Marissa was still alive, wouldn't he have gotten suspicious when he saw Summer hang out with Holly and not her BFF Marissa? Weird, but still awesome. Hey, does anyone know where I can download and or stream it? cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool
The first time I watched this episode I was very dissapointed. I think the reason why i was dissapointed was because I always expect the xmas OC episode to be excellent (excluding season 3's horrible chrismukkah bar mitz va kah). This season is excellent so far and i think this episode is further proof of season 4 excellence. This episode is one dedicated to Marissa even though not a hell of a lot of it was to do with Marissa. What this episode delt with was Ryan saying goodbye to Marissa and finally Moving onto other people such as the wonderful Taylor. Overall terrific episode.
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