FX (ended 2008)
24 is SO BAD now. Just DREADFUL---weak writing, cliched situations, over-the-top and unbelievable plotlines(the US President harboring a secret conspiracy that no one knows about??) Even Jack Bauer has become kinda boring and trite----YES we get it, he's the badass golden hero who has NO other agenda than saving his country no matter how much pain, misery and hardship it brings him. Jeez, can a character be any more one-dimensional? It should have ended after Season 4, when the show actually made some sense and had halfway decent story arcs.
How can anyone compare 24 to The Shield, a show that has consistently remained excellent all throughout??(although I will admit there have been weaker episodes) There's just no comparison. None.
It's obvious the makers of 24 don't give a s*it about the quality of the show anymore, they're happy as long as they can rake in the fat checks, and they'll keep the show going as long as they can do that. Bleh.
btw... did anyone get this metaphor of the dinosaur skeleton in this museum near Vic's family's new "home" ?
That can't be a coincidence !
What I don't understand is how Corrine could be so selfish and more importantly, paranoid...
Yes, she knows now that Vic has done some heinous s**t, but how could she ever, ever, EVER think that Vic would hurt her or the kids, in any way? No matter WHAT?
Corrine (repeatedly): "What's gonna happen to me now, when Vic finds out I've been helping you???? YOU NEED TO ARREST HIIMMM!!"
Jesus woman, shut up. I guess you really didn't know that man at all. He may have been a little angry and frustrated when he found out, maybe he would have yelled a little, but he would never, EVER hurt his family, including you. Vic loved his family more than himself. But yeah, I guess as long Vic was providing for the family, you had no problem with him being free, did you?
Enjoy your bland suburban life of anonymity Corrine, you deserve it. I just hope someday your conscience gets to you and you let Vic talk to his kids, the one bright spot he had.
Why would ronnie believe that he was included in any immunnity deal when he never signed any contract(surely he's well aware of the procedure for these kind of things because he's a cop)and he should have been suspicious about his inclusion in any deal because Vic made sure that ronnie attended the fist meeting but then didn't invite him for the second meeting.Almost anything these days requires a signature.
Another thing that I didn't like was that Vics betrayal of Ronnie rendered the whole of season 7 a big load of hypocracy.Vic was determined that the person that killed his team member(that he actually considered a brother)should "pay the bill"(as he told Shane)with thier life.His betrayal off Ronnie was the same thing,perhaps even worse than a quick,merciful grenade on the lap..
Finally the thing that I hated most about the ending was that Aceveda had a better fate than everybody else,his election as Mayor is a formality and he has gotten away with murder,I assume that he had some hand in andre 3000's(or 2000,not sure,not a big fan of his music)murder.Claudette is dying,Vic is stuck behind a desk,Shane and his family are dead,Ronnieis in jail,Olivia is made to look a fool and possibly facing some sort of reprimand or demotion,I proably forgot a few folk.In summary I thought it was a poor and possibly lazy ending to the best show on TV for a long time,until Dexter came along.
|I found the last scene to say "Even after all of what has happened,Vic Mackey hasn't changed one iota, and is probably taking his gun to go out and look for Corrine and the kids. He plays by no one's rules but his own, even now." I found the finale to be unsatisfying to a degree, because if you were rooting for Vic, it kinda sucked how it ended for him. (Not a true happy ending for him) If you were rooting AGAINST Vic, it kinda sucked how it ended for him.(Not nearly enough of a punishment doled out to him) I found it to be a bit short-sighted on the part of the producers and creators--who wants to buy the dvd's if the first 4 seasons set you up for a letdown or to feel like a fool in the last three seasons? A lot of folks may have felt like rubes for rooting for Vic and the guys seeing how things ended up. And folks don't want to ride a roller-coaster again if it ends with them not exhilarated or laughing and smiling, but sick, queasy, or vomiting. I'm not knocking the show at all, I have loved it since episode one, but the finale, while compelling, didn't tickle my fancy.|
I completely agree,I was also dissapointed with the finale.I always rooted for Vic,he was an ambiguous character but I thought that his good side might come through in the end by showing his loyalty to those closest to him,his justice was usually fair despite his methods being questionable and his determination to catch pezuela and end the cartels influence in the area was a search for redemption for his crimes.As we all know the oposite turned out to be the case and he alienated his family and condemned his only remaining friend to a torturous fate and as I mentioned in a previous post he became in essence a hypocrite and thefore rendered the whole of season 7 as a load of hypocracy(the determination to bring shane to his justice for killing a team member and brother even though he commited the same betrayal towards Ronnie).I have the first 3 seasons on dvd and was planning to get the rest(not very easy in the UK).I feel that the money spent on the dvds was a waste because I obviously thought that the ending was poor and definitely won't be buying the subsequent releases.As I said before this was the best show on television as far back as I can remember but it has been badly let down by the ending.
reply to avi01
I suppose that youre rigt about Ronnie waiting until after the beltran bust.I still have a problem with his ending though,his instinct even before the first ICE deal was offered was to run,his instinct to run should have been even greater when shane didn't turn up for the meet in the park after he made the money drop off to Corrine and then he recieved shanes letter at the barn saying "you've been punked",I have to think that at this point his instinct to run must have been screaming at him and telling him not to even bother with the Beltran meeting.I suppose his problem was being too loyal(maybe verging on stupid).You're also right when you say that the shield could never have a happy ending,too much conflict has happened.My suggestion for an ending would be a complete full circle of the series in which during the beltran bust Vic put a bullet in Ronnie,the same as he done to terry,but this time to spare Ronnie the agony of betrayal and prison life and this would in some way preserve his ambiguous morale code ie:in his mind he did the right thing although the method is questionable or alternatively ronnie could have put a bullet in Vic(maybe having suspicions of vics betrayal),a kind of student becomes teacher situation,vic kills terry to protect the team and then ronnie kills vic to protect whats left of the team,only himself and then he's free to go on the run.Like you said also Dexter could be considered to have too much of a feel good factor but I think there could have been a better mixture of good and bad in the shield ending although any ending is better than no ending.Too many shows are cancelled early these days.You have swayed me a little bit with your response but I am still also quite dissapointed with the way it ended.