FX (ended 2008)
Terry was never a friend but a threat to Vic and the gang. Lem was more than a friend, and his (dis)loyalty was questionable to the end. Shane can reason that he was making the big call so Vic wouldn't have to but he was desperate to stay in the clear...desperate about his situation at home and desperate to duck the two guys who might stop him from killing the perceived threat to his welfare.
It's tough to judge the acts of murder because both men essentially killed to protect themselves, and with a degree of secrecy from their own. I find it easier to judge the responses. Terry, in the end, was a genuine rat and Vic can only wonder what he might have done differently to remove him. Lem, in the end, wasn't a rat and you have Shane pardoning himself and using Vic to excuse himself. There's no doubt which of these killers I want walking away this season.
|Terry was neither a rat nor an enemy to the Strike Team, he was just a cop doing his job. If the Strike Team had done their job more than skimming cash off the side they wouldn't have to kill Terry just to hide it. I could use that same reasoning to say that it's worst to kill Terry than Lem because Lem was nothing but a crooked cop while Terry was a geniune fed doing his job. I don't actually believe that, but it's a point that could be made. At the end of the day murder is murder, and both cases are the same.|
I couldn't agree more.
Shane's murder is only worst because Lem was his friend. But in a court of law that really would not matter.
Vic committed cold blooded murder which can not be justified at all.
Vic killing Terry may even be worst because it showcases how bad a guy Vic must be. Why did Vic kill Terry, to cover up a crime, what was the crime, working with a drug dealer, the murder he committed was far worst than the crime he was trying to cover up. Both David and Kav have said that the most likely thing that could happen to Vic would be that he losses his badge, prison was always a threat just to get Vic to play ball and confess. So basically Vic killed Terry so he could keep his badge and keep commiting crimes.
Both Shane and Vic are going to hell, niether of them are good guys.
The way Vic killed Terry was cold blooded and Shane was at least right about the fact that Vic is being a hypocrite. However, Vic knew Terry was there to investigate his team from the start. While Shane made the decision to kill Lem on his own and they had a problem a season or so back. It was Vic's decision to make and also the fact that they all knew Lem and were friends for a long time. Unlike, Terry who was a friend of Acaveda!
|Well unfortunately Terry's job was working undercover to bring the strike team to justice, so on Vic's mind it was justified because he thought him as an enemy who was gonna harm his family. Lemansky, like Kavanaugh said, was the "guy with the conscience", the most "clean" guy on the Srike Team (besides Tavon - what happened to poor Tavon too?), also Lem only took the dam heroin to HELP Shane, Lem "sacrificed" himself to save Shane, taking the heroin from Pitarrio as leverage until they found Angie's body with Shane's bullets on her. Despite that Shane killed Lemansky, and...Vic would never kill Lem, he loved him too much for that, even after Aceveda acting like a ***** lying about Lem, Vic wasn't gonna do anything before he looked straight in Lem's eyes.. Shane did look at Lem's eyes, Lem told him the truth, that he was gonna take the hit down solo, do his time and never betray the Strike Team. Both cop killers in the legal way, but most people Vic killed were a threat, Terry, Margos, Armadillo...only Guardo was unjustified, but Shane taking down a brother like Curtis, also acting cocky about it...unforgivable.|
Yeah but Lem was a dirty cop, a criminal really. Terry was just a cop doing what he was supposed to do.
|what happened to poor Tavon?|
I couldn't agree more.
I completely agree that both men murdered, and that both should have to pay for what they've done. However, I think Shane is the most worthless/evil of the two, as the man he killed was his best friend. In addition, he was the man who saved his worthless redneck ass from being in jail to begin with. He was also the guy who was willing to go to jail himself to protect Vic, Ronnie and he who shall not be named. As for Vic, I would like to see Vic come to terms with the fact that he deserves to pay for what he has done, but I doubt he will do that. So I hope at least that he makes Shane pay.
This question is what makes the Shield such a good show. I hope that in the final season they explore the demons that Vic has battled over killing Terry (or show once and for all that he truly hasn't been remorseful at all). That would be a great way to finish the show.